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  1. You can try to change the width from wide to default or fairly narrow, you can also add pass into space if you want but this will decrease possession stats. I would also change midfield trio to Blind - DLP(d) or DM(s) maybe with more risky passes player instruction. Roaming playmaker and MEZ(a). Maybe try to change your right back to IWB(D), then you can create some kind of asymetrical diamond in midfield which will help recycle possession very nicely and provide cover in case of counter attacks (I would stick with higher loe and higher defensive line and more urgent pressing, gotta stay loyal to your philosophy ) You can also try Counter-Press in transition. Don't worry about the DLP(d) and RPM (s) combination in midfield, they won't be rushing things forward but recycle possession nicely, if you have "plays one-twos" ppm in your midfield players then you will see a lot of nice tiki-taka like passes in midfield. Higher tempo will make your players make faster decisions about where to pass the ball etc so it will make the ball go around faster, it doesn't mean that due to higher tempo your full back will suddenly decide to make pass forward to DLP and he will pass forward to striker and you will lose ball. Guardiola's Barca in my opinion played with higher tempo and yet it was possession based style etc IRL semi finals champions league Ajax also played with higher tempo
  2. The only time I could consistently pull 60%+ ball possession was when I played with FC Barcelona. My set-up was: Positive mentality 4-3-3 (the one u use, with defensive midfielder and wingers) ----------------SK(d)------------------ IWB(d) - CD(d) - CD(d) - WB(a) ---------------DPL(d)----------------- --------MEZ(a)------RPM(s)-------- IW(s)-----------------------------IF(s) -------------CF(s) or DLF(s/a)------ Much shorter passing, play out of defence, dribble less - these were pretty much core instructions, most of the times I also used work ball into the box, when struggled to score I unticked work ball into the box, added pass into space and sometimes changed passing to shorter or even added higher tempo Always used counter press and ball distribution to CB's, didn't tick anything in Counter/Reshape much higher line of engagement, much urgent pressing, much higher defensive line I can't say the setup was perfect but I had possession and my team played pretty nice. Struggled to score goals but I played with Barcelona so I always managed to win somehow because of brilliant players like Messi, Neymar, Lautaro Martinez, Kai Havertz etc. You're playing Bayern so I don't think that scoring goals out of nowhere should be a problem. I used also the same setup when managing Spain national team but U-19. Managed to keep 70%+ ball possession in every match but that's probably because U19 Spain has insane players and I was playing against weak teams in EURO qualifiers or friendly matches
  3. Yes. I tried to replicate Donny Van De Beek from Ajax when they played 4-3-3 on paper but this transformed into 4-2-3-1 with Donny Van De Beek moving so high and act like number 10. Vidal does the same in Barcelona, they play 4-3-3 but almost everytime they have ball he goes higher up the pitch and act like second striker or smth, basicly - stays in this #10 area near the striker. I tried everything, different roles (box-to-box, CM on attack duty), player traits, player instructions, different mentalities and the closest thing to this was MEZ(A) but it still wasn't the same. So I don't think you can replicate this movement and make your central midfielder in flat 4-4-2 or 4-1-2-3 act like number 10 and move higher up the pitch and be the apex of this diamond. You can try with wide midfielders or wingers (wide playmaker or trequartista) or maybe IWB (A)
  4. there is no role that will make normal midfielder move higher up the pitch to act like no.10 and form the diamond. You can somehow try to replicate it with MEZ(a) but still it won't be the same as player in this offensive number 10 spot
  5. how about simple 4-3-3 Roberto IWB(d) or that right back who is not attacking at all, Pique, Umtiti, Alba WB (a) or CWB (a/s) Busquets DM (s) or maybe DLP(d) not sure about Vidal and Rakitic, Arthur or Riqui Puig but some simple roles for them in the middle. Maybe roaming playmaker and mezzala (a) or smth like that. Ansu Fati IW s, Griezman IF a Messi flase 9 Standard or positive mentality, with higher tempo, much shorter passing and work ball into box?? And play out of defence ofc. Higher loe, higher defensive line, more urgent pressing etc and agressive instruction when taking the ball, get stuck in or smth like that.
  6. what exactly does 'take fewer/more risks' mean? take fewer risks aka clear the ball away and lose possession or don't waste the ball, keep it and make short passes even when closed down by opponent? More risks mean make the risky pass to the closest teammate when closed down or what? I have trouble with understanding this team instruction. So If I want my team to build up from the back ALWAYS, make the way out of enemy's pressing by short fast passes and one twos, should I pick take more risks (because it's risky to play short passes with eachother at the back when closed down by opponent) or should I take fewer risks (because it means to play safe and not waste ball - but then, take fewer risks seems like clearing the ball away when closed down) so how does it actually work in different scenarios??
  7. but in this thread we are talking about 1 on 1 situations and not about tactics etc idk I'm watching in 2d
  8. how does balance in roles/tactics etc make scoring 1v1 easier? It's just player and goalkeeper, 1v1. What does it matter if he is flase 9 or poacher or deep lying forward or complete forward if he is just 1v1 against keeper, one world class striker like Suarez or Lewandowski and one average goalkeeper and he ****s it up. It's not about his role or the tactics, it's about the game. I love how people here make this game flawless and always blame everything on tactics being unbalanced or having 3 playmakers while that's clearly not an issue.
  9. I don't think there is need for you to test it, I already played with Barcelona. I had Suarez, Griezmann and Lautaro Martinez, none of them able to score a goal from 1 on 1 situation. Manchester United also had some sick spanish regen and whenever he ended up 1v1 against my keeper I could just close my eyes or eat a sandwich
  10. my head is gonna get cut off by some experts here but I don't think it's matter of tactic. No matter if I have Griezmann, Lautaro Martinez, Luis Suarez, Roberto Firmino or Ronaldo or am I playing against Manchester United in CL final or against Girona in La Liga. Everybody miss tons of 1 on 1 when there is direct pass behind defenders and striker isn't offside and ends up 1v1 I can close my eyes and tell there won't be goal, no matter which team I play or who is the striker and who is the goalkeeper.
  11. why does it matter? Tempo is not about how fast they are moving up the pitch from defence to attack but how fast the ball is moving around. You can move the ball quickly with much higher tempo but still expect your players to keep the ball and move it around from left to right but quicker? Am I wrong? I thought tempo is about how fast they pass the ball for example quick short passes, one-twos etc. and not how fast they are moving from defence to attack. Guardiola said many times that he hates tiki taka because it is slow and boring passing and he wants his team to pass the ball quickly etc. and yet his teams keep the ball most of the time?
  12. well I think the opposite. I want to win in style and dominate possession, I guess thats why I am Barca and Ajax supporter. Also, I am watching games on full so I actually want to watch my team play and enjoy it instead of fighting with myself to not fall asleep and that's why I created this thread. Yes, I am winning but I want to win with beautiful possession football and I am not able to do this with the best techincal players in the world playing as Barcelona.
  13. i changed a lot of things, currently I am starting all over again with new tactic in the new season. I noticed that no matter the mentality/roles etc I will always have low possession because I feel like pressing is too weak and ball oriented, that's why my team doesn't attack as unit and doesn't cut off passing lanes for enemy team and that is the reason why almost every my opponent has higher possession, because they are on defensive mentality just passing the ball around at the back with no desire to attack me. That's why I am winning games but lack the possession. I could easily get 60%+ ball possession in my first seasons managing Barca B team but after going to Barcelona I can see that everybody just keeps passing the ball around with no intention of attacking me meanwhile the pressing looks like **** no matter the mentality Balanced/Attacking, always one player going for another player with the ball, then enemy passes the ball, and then another player goes for the ball etc. There is no pressing as a unit at all. Any ideas how to change the way my team closes down the opponents?
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