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Yeah it still drops in between the cb's in phase 1 of possession, been using it to pretty good success so far pairing it with either a regista next to it or a dlp in cm strata
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I've had success with both IW and IF as goalscorers/creators, in a 4231 i use an IW on the right and a RMD on the left, my IW had 49 assists in all competitions. Had success using IF(A) as a creator too on a recent save with AZ, calvin stengs providing 20 goals + 15 assists in the league before shipping him off to Arsenal and replacing him with Pedrinho who provided me with 16 goals 23 assists in the league the following season. with the the IW i provided him with enough options around him but he excelled proving diagonals to the RMD on the opposite wing. the IF(A) had success providing cut backs to my IW(s).
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1 hour ago, sporadicsmiles said:
The obvious way to deal with long balls over the top is to drop your defensive line so they stop being a problem. Or to cut off the supply.
Yep i've tried both approaches. Even loaded up a Chelsea save as a test with their very fast CB's and high workrate forwards/midfield to try both approaches but it still happens regardless. They made a change to through ball decision making in a patch and since then it's been crazy in my experience. I still win the vast majority of the time, just wondered if anybody had consistent success with limiting this particular type of goal.
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hello my fellow tacticians, have any of you found a way to neutralise the cbs pogba level passing range
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Do your defenders get enough support from the midfield line when they have the ball? Usually your defenders will clear it out if they see no viable options, and i'm not 100% sure on this but i think take fewer risks might compound that in this situation
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7 minutes ago, emil_sbn said:
Id suggest a high line with leverkusen as they have plenty of pace in the back 4, and maybe tah on cover for extra protection for longballs. I can see a Gegenpress work for them..
I won the Bundesliga and Europa League in my 1st season basically using my own interpretation of Tuchels Dortmund. Used high Dline and LOE, intense pressing however i've been doing 4-3-3's/ 4-1-2-3's pretty much religiously since fm 12 so I felt like trying something different.
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18 minutes ago, rockpie said:
Trying make the left winger a W (a).
Add take more risks player instruction to DLP (s).
Team instruction to overlap on the right.
Maybe you already those things set. What other team and player instructions are you using at the moment? Hard to suggest effective changes without knowing what's already being used.
Mentality: Positive
In possession: Play out of defense
Transition: Counter
Out of possession: Prevent short distribution, Use offside Trap
PI's: LW ST RW : Close down more. LW RW: Shoot less often.
I stripped it down and made it simplistic to let the players do them as they're good players, I'ma give this iteration a few more games to get a greater overlook of what's going right and wrong.0 -
6 hours ago, rockpie said:
In the Beta, I had some success with Spurs using Dele Alli as a SS behind Kane DLP (s).
Not tried using the role since the full release though.
How does Havertz as SS fit into your tactic as a whole? What are the TIs you're using? And are they set up in combination with player roles so that the other players are looking for his runs when he makes them?
I've chopped and changed so much in frustration I don't even have a set tactic for it anymore. I've tinkered with LOE to allow space ahead of me to run in to on transitions, tinkered with passing range, speed, everything.
Currently the tactic goes as:
DLF(S)
Fischer/VollandWS) SS(A) IW(S)
Sancho/Bailey Havertz Bailey/PaulinhoDLP(S) CM(D)
Szoboszlai AjerFB(s) CD(D) CD(D) FB(A)
Pellegrini Wober Tah WeiserSK(S)
Hradecky
Szoboszlai has tries killer balls trait and the appropriate stats to in theory find Havertz whenever he pleases, however he just passes it wide instead most of the time.
Overall it's been frustrating as Havertz has all the stats to be the deadliest SS in the game. I am super determined to get a working system for my Main save as Birmingham as I intend to develop Jude Bellingham in to my star SS
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Playing with Leverkusen, Trying to use Havertz as my focal point as a shadow striker, he makes the runs excellently, just players refuse to pass to him even though he's in acres of space. Any one had success using a Shadow Striker? If so, how did you do it.
I guess you could use this thread as a discussion regarding getting the best out of shadow strikers.
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35 minutes ago, ryandormer said:
You may well be right! But assuming I've found players that can broadly do those jobs, how would you recommend setting them up in 2020?
I am currently running a barca inspired system on a spurs save. At the moment I am using a midfield trio of a Half Back, a DLP support on the right, and and an AP attack on the left. I've never noticed it on previous fm's but this year you can instruct the AP to hold position, which is helpful as it means he'll stay within his own area of influence more and not automatically gravitate to where the ball is.
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Possession in fm 22
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The EXACT same thing happens with my barca team, I average less than 50% over the season with a lot of games having 35%~ facing teams that have 0 shots against me. Even worse when facing 5 atb teams.