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Bit random, and I'm not necessarily advocating for a change because this would probably reduce the enjoyment for most players. From a realsim point of view players seem to hit hit the target with shots much more often than in the real-world. Just something I noticed.
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Thought I had a bug in my save as I had 2 players in my squad valued at £0. Couldn't figure it out but concluded it was because of club and player reputation. Quite sure I'm correct when I say that, feel free to correct me though!
Background: Playing with a team called Fairford Town after downloading an extended English League database. They're a tiny club with awful facilities in everything. Started in the English 9th tier and am currently about to start our 2nd season in the Vanarama National League - the 5th tier. We're renting a stadium as ousr wasn't even good enough for the 6th tier. There's no history at all with this club and club rep is now around 2600. It was approximately 1300 when first starting the save.
For the past 3 seasons I noticed we had a player stuck on £0 valuation. I'd get lots of bids for him of £0 but they were always from teams he didn't want to move to so it wasn't such a big deal. I don't know if the clubs a player was with previously impacts player rep, but he came up with Stoke as a youth player which seems fairly good compared to our level of club. For reference he's a real-life player called Ian Togo. We've just let him go to Macclesfield in the 7th tier as we have better players now. Obviously he's more valuable to them, and there's a new signing factor, he's suddenly worth £20-£190k.
More annoying was a Newgen we signed last season. Picked him up from an Irish amateur team called Home Farm and he was starting in midfield for us. He would have done this season too but I decided to let him go after he and his teammates were unhappy with me for not letting him move. I wanted to keep the squad harmony in tact in the end. We were getting £0 bids from teams 2 and 3 divisions above us. He was regarded as a star player for us, had 2 years remaining on his contract (part-time) and in-game it was saying he had a lot of potential to improve etc. He went to QPR in the Championship in the end and slotted into their U21 squad. His valuation is now £100k-£1m.
Like I said, thought it was bug, but delved into it and these 2 players had the lowest reputation of any of our players. First player rep was just under 1000 and still is, second one was just over 1000 but has immediately jumped to Home 1821, Current 2476 after moving.
Their reputation and ours played a huge part in all that by the looks of it.
I do find it a bit silly though, or paradoxical even. Putting what happened into a real-world kind of context, the second guy was famous enough to be known, wanted and assumedly scouted by Championship and League One clubs, yet his 'reputation' was the second lowest of all our players? He must have a reputation for these clubs to even be aware of him, and a pretty good one for them to want to sign him! Maybe they need to call 'reputation' something else? This siutuation with the second player was a bit of an immersion breaker for me.
Using this custom database and starting with a tiny club in it almost certain played a part in things, but I'm sure similar could be encountered in the standard game too. Found it all a bit disappointing. If you're good enough to be wanted by QPR, albeit their U21s, you really shouldn't have the lowest reputation and valuation in my squad. I've received small fees of around £10,000 for 2 worse players with less potential this summer in-game, and the most I could get for him is £0. Realistically he should be our record sale.
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2 hours ago, hilmz88 said:
it does go back to normal on the 2nd season
Thanks, that's good to know. I don't know why it says it doesn't in my save then, is there something wrong with my game specifically?
Save started in 2020 says next season, 2021 will still have teams play once:
Save starting in 2021 says teams play each once in the current and next (2022) season:
If playing once doesn't happen then that's great, it's confusing when it says it does.
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On 02/02/2021 at 23:35, hilmz88 said:
hello guys
in the swedish 4th division do you only play each other once ?
I ran into that too the past couple of days. I don't know anything about Swedish football but it's one of the nations with more playable tiers with 4 and I was keen to give it a go.
If I start in the 2020 season I only get 1 match against each other team It also says next season's structure (2021) is identical. If I start in 2021 then it's the same story, playing once and saying we'd play once each again in 2022.
Was wondering if it was an error on SI's part and sadly it appears to be one. Looking back on the Soccerway websiite showed that teams played each other twice every year before 2020 and now I can see the fixtures are out for 2021 and once again they're playing each other twice in the real world. It's disappointing and I'm not sure I want to try the 4th tier (aka division 2) now as such short seasons would be a lot of time sitting around doing nothing. It would be ok for one season, and understandable if trying to replicate the Covid year but if failing to get promoted first time that would be boring as well as inaccurate. Don't really feel like spending a lot of time on recruitment only to play so few matches either.
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In the real-world when a match goes to penalties and one side has fewer players on the pitch at the end of the game either due to injury or red card the team with more players gets to nominate a player who won't be asked to take a penalty. This rule is in place so that should it get that far a team with 11 men on the pitch doesn't have to take their 11th penalty with their weakest player while at the same time the team with 10 gets to go back to their strongest.
Just had a game where this didn't happen in the CONCACAF Champions League quarter final. Cruz Azul (AI) had a man sent off during the match and got to take their 11th penalty with their 1st penalty taker again, whereas my team (Philadelphia Union) had to take the 11th with our worst. Luckily we won through so it didn't matter but that's still not following the laws of the game as I understand them.
There was nothing asking me to nominate a player who wouldn't take one. I did list the full pecking order of 11 players ahead of the shootout from strongest to weakest which could have been the cause I suppose, but I would have thought the game would have just skipped 11th choice player during the shootut itself or that it wouldn't let me pick 11 to start with.
From the screenshots, E. Hernandez, their first taker goes after Renato Caja first time around, but second time around goes before him as N. Taitague, my worst taker is forced to take one.
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On 24/06/2020 at 03:56, FrazT said:
Not to my knowledge- only starts are counted.
Well that's interesting to know and makes what I've been doing pointless. When picking the subs and deciding for example whether to have my second best left winger or second best right winger on the bench I often go on who has had the least appearances in the last 5 games from a player's form tab. Always thought that at least if they come on then it will make them semi-happy.
Obviously expectations and player personality are a part of it too, but intuitively I'd have thought that if you had 2 players with everything else equal then the one who came on for half an hour would be happier about that than the player who was told to watch from the stands and not even put his kit on. He's getting more game time, would feel more important and is getting an appearance fee. He also has a chance to get a goal or assist bonus etc. He'd get to hear the teamtalks, be a part of all the dressing room camaraderie and could even be the hero if he scores the winner. The player sitting in the stands in his suit doesn't have any of that.
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Pretty sure there's a problem with this and there's not much you can do. I'm in the same boat, have been doing some searching lately and we're not alone.
No League invite for this player's Luton U23s
Still not invited after 3 seasons
No league invite for York U23s
No U23 league invitation after having an U23 side for 8 seasons
Player says he's never invited to a league with the U23s
Player can't get Torquay youth sides invited to leagues plus mod reply about EPPP ratings
Telford U23s not being invited for this player
Player replies to Telford post, having the issue with Cambridge
Bath City not getting invited, a couple of other people chime in
Player turned down the invitation with Spurs one year, never got invited back
Loads of people having the same problems over on the Steam forum
My own story is that I'm with Southport, currently in 2030/31 season. We didn't have an U18 or U23 team when I took the job. Created a U23 team about 3 seasons in, and an U18 side 4 or 5 in and neither team has been invited to a league yet. Still just friendlies all the time for both.
I don't have the best youth set up yet, but at level 2 it's good. We got to the FA Youth Cup final last season but still no invites for any leagues for either the U23 or U18s.
They're not going be fixing this in August, 10 months after release, let's face it.
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Which leagues do you think will be most interesting to manage in FM25?
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Posted · Edited by fat mole
Depends how deep they go down the ladder for me. I usually like to play in England simply because it's 6 divisions deep. Doubt they're going to do that.
There's always custom databases, which may or may not work well with women's leagues. Only went custom for my first time this season in men's as 6 tiers was no longer enough.
If the game accurately refelcts some of the awful women's teams it might be a fun challenge to play as one of them. Going through WSL stats, the bottom team has finished on 6 points, 11, 11 & 12 from 22 games the past 4 years. There was Sheffield United in the English men's top flight doing similarly poorly this season but that sort of disparity seems to happen more often in the Women's top division.
Edit: Looking further, Sporting Huelva have 6 points from 27 in La Liga F, 2 teams are on 13 from 22 in the French women's top league, MSV Duisburg women's team have just 4 from 21 in Germany. If they put really bad teams in the league that like that it could be fun!