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On 18/11/2020 at 06:58, CodenameGeordie said:

I have a few comments to make with regard to Newcastle United player ratings.  It is my opinion that some players have been slightly overrated and underrated while looking through the squad.

I'll start with the players I believe to be overrated:

1. Sean Longstaff - Ever since Rafa left Newcastle he just hasn't been the same player, his passing is usually wayward, makes poor decisions and dawdles on the ball and is often caught in possession. I think there should be a consideration to drop his Passing and concentration by 1 and Decisions by 2 to reflect this.  Alternatively, drop consistency by 1 to cater for his inconsistency?
2. Rodrigo Vilca - His stats are really good and I dont think they reflect someone who has just been brought into the EPL from a Peruvian top league side.  Hes yet to be included in a first team squad and should probably have these stats dropped to reflect his ability as a higher end U23 player
3. Jonjo Shelvey - While he was probably Newcastles best CM last season, I think his consistency is a bit overstated.  He regularly doesn't turn up IRL
4. Henri Saivet - His ability seems to be on par with that of Matty Longstaff, but he hasnt even been named in Newcastles 25 man squad for the season and his days at the club seem limited due to this.  I would recommend looking at this, with a small drop in some key technical attributes, probably Passing, Technique and First Touch.
5. Andy Carroll - His Heading, Aggression, Bravery, Strength and Jumping reach all look about right, but his finishing is poor (I would recommend dropping that to 12) especially given the lack of goals over the last 2 seasons from him
6. Christian Atsu - He has been given 13 for Long Shots, but I don't think he's ever taken a shot from outside the 18 yard box?

Now for the underrated players:

1. Allan Saint-Maximin - Despite him seeing a slight improvement in his stats from last years game I don't think these are anywhere near sufficient.  If Allan Saint Maximin does not play, or turn up for a game, Newcastle usually lose.  Or at the very least 0 - 0 draw.  I would recommend the following for him.  Work Rate +3 - he is regularly tracking back and helping the team out defensively IRL.  Passing +2, Longshots +2, Bravery +4 (he is constantly getting kicked IRL but just keeps going)  Pace and Acceleration +2 each, he is one of the quickest player in the league consistently and has an insane turn of pace.  Vision +2, he sees things other don't but is often 1 or 2 steps ahead of his team mates
2. Migel Almrion - He is Newcastles creative outlet this season, bringing the most assists and chances created.  His passing should be improved by 2 to reflect this.  He has also been deployed at CM regularly this season, to good effect, as part of a midfield 3 and should be "accomplished" in this role and should have some other boosts to reflect his game as an Advance Playmaker.  His Teamwork should be at least 16 too, he works immensely hard for the team and this is often missed/forgotten.
3. Karl Darlow - He has been battered this season, and should have a much better shot stopping ability to reflect this.  Recommend increasons Handling, Reflexes and 1 on 1's by +1, his concentration and composure should be increase by 2 as well.  again he has been a rock when called upon this season, albeit with a couple minor mistakes
4. Jacob Murphy - Hes player RWB a few times times for Newcaslte this season and been very good at it too.  Id recommend making this atleast "accomplished".  He also played they many time at Sheffield Wednesday last season.  I'd recommend some generic improvements across the board for key stats so that he can play the Wingback/Complete Wing back role effectively.
5. Jamal Lewis - seems to have gotten worse since last season.  He is Newcastles 1st choice LB and this should be reflected in the improvements of his technical stats.  Norwich fans were raving about his last season.

Another general comment to make is that Newcastle seem to have an abundance of CM's who have a preference for the Right side (all bar Shelvey).  This should be looked at for the final release.  Hayden is very much universal and plays both sides regular, both the Longstaffs have regularly played together in midfield outside of the 1st team which means at least 1 should be updated to reflect this.  At CB Fernandez plays at LCB, this should be corrected.  

Hi Codename,

Thanks for your feedback - much appreciated!

Some changes have already been made ahead of release, including Longstaff, Saivet and Murphy.

Just to highlight some of your suggested changes I have not made;

Jamal Lewis - IMO he has very good stats for a full back at his age, and still has a lot of work to do (although I believe he will get there) to be one of the league's top full backs

Jonjo - You hit nail on head! Best performing CM last season, and remember he was top scorer (scandalous)! I do understand that you don't know what Shelvey will turn up sometimes, but his 'Consistency' rating does not indicate he will 'turn up' every week. One to review in the next research phase.

ASM - I have already made vast improvements across mental, technical and physical attributes since FM20.

Karl Darlow - Again, a widespread increase in attributes has already been implemented.

Federico Fernandez - He still prefers to play on the right side of defence, but due to his consistent partnership with Lascelles he is deployed on the left side.

Cheers,

Kev.

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, TheInvisibleMan said:

Thanks, Kevin. 
 

What sort of circumstances would these be? How you develop him and how much game time he gets?

Exactly that!

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On 15/11/2020 at 15:58, TheInvisibleMan said:

Think Elliot Anderson at Newcastle should have a bit of an upgrade. He's now training with the Newcastle first team (regularly in photos on their website), has been on the bench in the Carabao Cup and is one of the best players in PL 2 Division 2, all while still being eligible for their U18s team. He clearly has a lot of potential and Newcastle rate him highly so this should be reflected in the game. He's also a Scotland U19 international.

He's also signed a new contract until 2024, probably on a first team wage now. More proof of how highly he's rated at the club too.

Source: https://www.nufc.co.uk/news/latest-news/teenage-midfielder-elliot-anderson-signs-new-long-term-deal/

Thanks for this. We have already updated his contract details, and whilst I agree that he is definitely a prospect - there is still a long way to go for him. I have put his PA at a decent value, and his rating 'in game' will depend on circumstances within that save.

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On 11/11/2020 at 13:03, Smallen said:

Whoever has done the Newcastle research has done a very good job of reflecting how poor we are in real life, so well done . It will actually be a challenge this year.

Steve Bruce's ratings are too high, however. He should not have a world class rating for defensive coaching (currently set to 17).

We are right at the top of the table for shots conceded this season and we were last season too, with Dubravka making more saves than anyone in the league. There is absolutely nothing to suggest that Steve Bruce is a good defensive coach. In fact, most of our defenders have regressed since he took over from Benitez (Schar, Lascelles, Fernandez all look less solid than they used to). It seems a fairly major data error for the game to suggest he's one of the best in the world in this department. I would drop it from 17 (world class) to 10 (average). 

Also, he has a technical coaching attribute of 13. Not sure what he's done in his coaching career to deserve this. Of Premier League managers with over 300 games he has a lower average possession stat than anyone (even lower than the likes of Pulis, Allardyce and Joe Kinnear). Our players are completely incapable of holding onto the ball and succumb to any sort of pressure on the ball. We don't look like a team that receive any technical coaching whatsoever. I would lower this attribute from 13 (good) to 6 (poor). 

I would also suggest that a tactical knowledge attribute of 8 is very generous. The guy thinks that tactics = formations and nothing more (that is based on numerous interviews with him, not only my own subjective opinion). I'd lower this from 8 (fair) to 5 (poor).

Thanks for the feedback!  I did try and reflect as best I could the attribute ratings of the players, so glad you agree.

 

Onto Steve Bruce... I take on board what you say. On Tactical Knowledge - I think I am happy with 8, as in my eyes for a Premier League manager, 8 is not a rating which puts him in the bracket of 'top' or even 'average' Premier League managers.

 

I will ponder the suggested amendments and see where we are at! Thanks again for your feedback 👍

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On 10/11/2020 at 23:09, Blayne said:

Hello There

 

Should Newcastle have such low Training and Youth facilities?

Both are rated as "Average" whilst the rest of the league is much higher

Hi there.

 

It is well known that Newcastle have very under-par facilities compared to other PL clubs. It was a major gripe of the Benitez era and also something the potential new owners of yesteryear also said was in vital need of an upgrade.

 

Thanks for your feedback though. Vital we have discussions around such matters