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  1. Thanks for the input. I was not only basing the use of Gosling on his greater number of starts, but more so on what is written in this article. https://www.football365.com/news/tactics-teaching-and-talent-bournemouths-transformation
  2. I've watched a ton of Atleti matches since Simeone became manager, and while there are general principles such as narrow/vertically compressed defending and quick, often direct movement in possession, the actual match day instructions tend to be quite specific to the opponent. There are certain players, Koke, Saul and to a degree Partey who are positioned to either counter specific opponents or exploit weaknesses. Another really critical aspect would be the use of the opposition instructions as this is something that Simeone would spend countless hours on if FM and reality were the same. Getting the traps right is intricate. I think that this something that Experienced Defender is alluding to. mp_87 is certainly correct when he says that only a certain personality will succeed under Simeone, and I will also assert that he is quick to part ways with a player if he doesn't see a full commitment. Lastly, while Atleti line up in 4-4-2 the vast majority of the time, Simeone is willing to change it up to a 4-5-1/4-3-3 if he thinks that there's a need. A few years back in a cup match against a lower division side they played what was very close to a narrow 4-3-3 and pressed and trapped relatively high up the pitch.
  3. I think that we might be correcting some of the "tactical nonsense" to which AFC referred to. I'm going to keep tinkering with the concepts discussed in two parallel leagues and see how it goes. - OS
  4. I made a similar point earlier in the thread regarding King. This might line-up a bit with AFC's interpretation as he may well be better suited to being a SS. My motivation for starting this discussion wasn't purely to replicate Bournemouth. I also wanted to create a framework for fast paced counterattacking style that wasn't purely reliant on direct passing. Thanks to you and AFC I think that we've gotten almost all of the way there for both. -OS
  5. Thanks once again. The issue of the player maker was addressed in my previous response. I think that AF is the way to with Wilson based upon what both of you are saying. Mobility is really the key to his game and he often stays to the left half space looking for the ball. I will post an update of the tactic shortly.
  6. Thanks for your input. My concern with the Shadow Striker are the changes which have been made how he behaves in FM19 (ie: reduced penetration). That's why I went with the F9 as King strength is at making runs from deep both with and without the ball. I would have considered going with a Pressing Forward, but they tend to be more static in attack from what I have heard. Whatever role King is in, he biases to the right with Wilson to the left. I understand that the counterattack in FM19 is different than it has been in the past, but I also think that Bournemouth try to be quite quick with the ball in the final third under any circumstance. One observation which I have made is that while attacks generally narrow in the final third, they begin wide in the middle third with balls played to Fraser, Brooks or one of the forwards dropping into a half space. I know that you said that Brooks sits narrower, but I don't think that I'd agree with that asI've seen him hug the touchline and once he gets the ball dribble directly across and into the open space as neither central midfielder seems in a hurry to get there. So IW(s) seems right for him. For me, Fraser goes down the touchline too often to be an IW, so I'll stick with WM(a) there. Yes, I can see where Cook would in fact be a DLP. Per Football365, that's why he starts less often than Gosling, who is mores of tackler/runner (I'm being kind here), and less of a passer. Based upon the feedback that I have gotten, the only two remaining in possession instructions are "work the ball into the box" and "slightly higher tempo." I am tempted to add "Play Wider" but I'm going to leave it as is for now. A question that I have is regarding the Transition instructions. Should I keep "Distribute Quickly?" I'm not sure if this is accurate.
  7. - King generally seems to be the F9, though his attributes don't fit the role. You're likely right on the other (Wilson) role. I was considering going with CF so that he would hold up the ball when the situation dictates. Wilson seems well suited to that role. AF or Poacher would seem to make him a little too one-dimensional. - I chose Gosling because per Whoscored, he's started more matches in the CM position than Cook. I also think that he fits what Howe wants a bit better at this stage. My concern with any kind of playmaker in midfield is that he would attract the ball a bit too much and hence would slow the attacks. You would know better on this that I do though. - Agreed on Fraser and Brooks. Both start wide, but Fraser's movement is varied, though always forward, while Brooks always cuts inside. - Agreed on Bournemouth generally being more Balanced than Cautious. On the lower mentality they seem to play more of a 4-2-2-1-1. That's how they flummoxed Chelsea. - Based on what I've read, I think that you're right about "Run at Defense." All of the primary attackers have in hard wired as you stated and none of the other positions due so IRL. Same for "Be More Disciplined." I'm going to drop both and post the update soon. -OS
  8. Thanks! Great to hear. I'm just started with it this weekend as time allows.
  9. Thanks for the response. I've added a screenshot. It isn't great, but certainly better than the previous attachment.
  10. This is my first attempt at a tactical replication for FM2019, so please bear with my rookie errors. For full disclosure, it is also a very early WIP. As the title indicates, I'm trying to replicate this season's Bournemouth team, the good one which breaks at high pace and not the one that tends to crumble defensively. As I'm half a world away, and have a job, my opportunities to watch full matches has been limited, so hopefully there are people in the FM community who can contribute to this tactic. I do believe that they begin in a standard 4-4-2, though I considered going with a 4-2-2-2 (DM). I wanted to flexible mentality because it does seem that only the two forwards and two wide midfielders do the attacking with the rest either supporting or defending. Per my understanding, this spilts the team accordingly. Roles: Forwards are rarely close together and appear to split as needed with King being more likely to drop deep, turn and run with the ball. Midfielders seem to be adjusted based on the opponent though Fraser on the left and Lerma in the middle are constants. I think that I have Lerma's role right, but was torn on whether Fraser is a WM or an IW. While he does tend to cut inside due to being right-footed, this isn't always the case, so I felt like the WM with roaming would be best. Brooks is also always present, but his position often changes. For this tactic I placed him right mid. While the attached tactic has him as a wide playmaker, it could also be argued that he's IW. That being said, he nearly always begins his movement from near the touchline. Defenders are seem to be pretty standard. The wides get forward in support but not with great abandon. On occasion one of the centrals will join in for a shot as Steve Cook did v Brighton, but this can't be replicated in FM19 so I can't try to replicate that. Goalkeepers are bog standard with an emphasis on BOG as they are both League One level at this point in their careers. Anyway, have at it. I am fully open to input and opinions.
  11. I decided to go on a post-holiday weekend FM binge, but to my surprise and disappointment, FM18 won't load. The Steam icon simply bounces up and down. I suspect that this is where the problem lies because the editor will no longer load, no will any past versions of the game. Idea? -OS
  12. I watch Atalanta as often as I can. I think that Gomez is more of Raumdeuter. Either way he's a heck of a player!
  13. Some have said that Totti played as a wide Trequartista when Roma was managed by Zeman is his first stint there.
  14. Johnny, I understand the tendency to want to play with a defensive or counter mentality, but that won't get to where we're trying to go. Bear in mind that I'm looking to replicate a style, as coached by Pulis and some others who I've mentioned that will not have much possession. When you do this vs. a like opponent, you will dominate the ball. Pulis does play VERY defensively on the road vs the big teams, and I would say that defensive is correct in these situations. I also think that he's mostly ditched the double pivot since the mid-point of last season, though they lined up in a really narrow formation in the last match of 2016/17 if memory serves. I that case the outside backs joined in the attack much more. In most situations I'd say that they act as FB(s) now. Back to mentality/shape/TI's/PI's, I won't have much chance to tinker until the weekend, but I'm leaning toward Control/Structured, with a PI's of much deeper d-line, stay on feet for tackling, a narrower setting, with possibly exploit the flanks. No direct passing because that will hopefully happen anyway with Control/Structured and correct player roles.
  15. So back to the fundamental question, in FM, what form, shape, TI's and PI's do we use to create an overall tactic that has relatively little possession, yet creates an high number of shots + chances?
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