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  1. 10 hours ago, Nickg2424 said:

    Would you or @Marc Vaughan know why I can't access FM Touch 21 anymore on the Google play store?.I paid 20 plus pounds for that game when it came out and now I can't find it anywhere.I agree with what you said also that I would be somewhat OK playing FM21 touch with an updated database but that's not likely to happen is it.

    Go to Google play and click your avatar. Then follow this...

    Manage apps and device > Manage > change "installed" to "not installed".

    The game should be listed here.

    Enjoy 😎

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  2. Fantastic reply @Marc Vaughan, very incitful. I do understand peoples frustrations. I personally have played the game since day 1 (Champ Man). Having being used to the full game for so many years, but then unable to enjoy the game due to time constraints from real life, Touch was the perfect solution. The mobile game is probably the best football manager sim out there but having being used to the full game for so long, it felt like something was missing, Touch filled this void. I actually purchased an android tablet specifically to play FMT21 (don't tell the missus, she thinks it's from work!!!). The news last year was devastating. Its the first year since the original Champ Man that I hadn't purchased the game. I did try the mobile version again but it wasn't as in depth as I liked so unfortunate to say I requested a refund (sorry, I realise how much hard work you and your team put into it). Personally I would be happy for an android version every 2 or 3 years with maybe a transfer update when the other versions are released. In fact, I'd still be happy to continue with FMT21 right now, with an updated database. What this has allowed me to do is have the longest save since my Champ Man days, currently coming up to season 10. However, seeing my club completely change their team since then has frustrated me, as I want to try a save with those new players. I do understand the business decision, but I am still disappointed. Thanks for taking the time to explain things.

  3. 1 hour ago, santy001 said:

    Each annual edition of FM has changes in the way things are done from a research perspective, but for FM22 everything will be the same across the FM22 titles under whatever label they may have (from a research perspective). However by FM23 there will be some more changes. Changes in the way attributes work, changes to contractual clauses not just in how they work but how they're applied. New features bring new attributes. The QA testers come back and point out that a player who was absolutely fine last year is now performing too strongly or too weakly. 

    One example is over the last couple of years how we set optional extra years for a player has changed. A few years ago pace and acceleration were rebalanced in the ME and attribute weightings. This meant that CA's changed without changing a single attribute on a player. 

    It's very easy to slap a name on a particular portrayal and claim its a player, but if that top player, with a distinct style is behaving nothing like themselves in the ME and wider game world, then its a failing on our part and I'm sure most others like myself aim to avoid that. If we're then looking to do that for multiple editions of the game its going to come crashing down extremely quickly because it would be too much and not doing that would just make it a hollower experience for it. What's the point in providing a data update if its correct in name only?

    You've completely answered my question and more so thank you. And I agree with the data update. If it can't be completed properly then it shouldn't be an option. I'm just a grumpy old man. I will continue playing FMT21 and hope for a development in future years. Thanks for the discussion, its been very insightful.

  4. 35 minutes ago, santy001 said:

    While the time of researchers like myself may cost very little for you, it wouldn't be particularly appealing for me to have to provide two broadly similar sets of data in different ways so that one is compatible with a previous version of FMT and that another is compatible with the present version of FM. 

    That's before you even have to figure out a way for SI to get around the primary problem, FMT21 has a limited shelf life in which SI can be actively working with it based on licensing agreements. You can't go back and buy FMT20 through Steam. 

    Firstly, I appreciate your efforts and it is something I value dearly, so thank you.

    How does this work with the xbox and switch versions then? Can their data transfer easy from the main game? Is this the issue with Touch then, that the game is basically outdated? 

    I've moaned a lot here, but it's been a way of life for me for nearly 30 years. Touch is the only way I can continue to play presently. 

  5. 8 hours ago, JordanMillward_1 said:

    You seem to be taking this very personally, when it appears to have been a matter of "It takes £x to make FM Touch for PC/Andoid/iPad, and we are only getting back £y. We can't afford to continue spending the money/staff/workhours on this, and it'd be better to redirect those resources elsewhere".

    You can't expect a developer to continue producing a product if there isn't the consumer base for it. I'm not saying it's good or right, but it's capitalism, and until that changes, SI is gonna have to make decisions that work best for the company. It's exactly the same reason why they ceased compatibility of the main game with Linux - there just weren't the number of people running it on Linux to justify the cost of ensuring compatibility.

    It is personal yes, you're correct on that one thing. That's what FM is about right? Escaping reality on a personal level 

  6. 2 hours ago, JordanMillward_1 said:

    SI will have data on the number of sales, amount of play time, etc, on Android and Apple tablets. It's just not data that's made as public as the number of people playing a game on Steam, which is the only info we have, and SI haven't publicly provided all the figures on sales on all stores, number of players, etc, and if they're like the vast majority of other developers, that information won't be made public.

    The number of sales yes, playtime probably not. I mean, how could they know that? Its an offline game on tablets. I sound tetchy but I'm genuinely heartbroken. This was my last chance of keeping my CM/FM relationship alive. There is no way Touch made a loss financially.

  7. 14 minutes ago, bluman said:

    I end up blaming myself because we have a huge FM community and we ended up talking about Football Manager even while playing Touch. We should have come together, created a community focused solely on Touch. Unfortunately I didn't know this could happen. If SI would give us the opportunity to have FM Touch 22 for Tablet, I would do anything to attract new players and encourage the community to purchase the game. We should have united, this would never have happened.

    Even if they just realised a version every few years, I'd be happy with that. Just a database transfer update will surfice 

  8. 20 hours ago, bluestillidie00 said:

    I'm sure Sports Interactive will have figures that support their decision. Even publicly available figures from steamdb show it. I'll imagine there just isn't the userbase to justify whatever costs and general investments Touch requires. It's a shame for the Touch contingent, but that's businesses for you.

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    Source: https://steamdb.info/graph/?compare=1263850,1263860&release

     

     

    That's only on Steam though right? Touch on Google Play sold over 10k copies. 

  9. 14 minutes ago, right_winger said:

    @freakydancin as it's been mentioned above you don't have to pay monthly subscription as you can buy the game from Microsoft Store instead. I have never used it but looking at it it's not much different from buying via Steam.

    Having said that I'm personally leaning towards trying out the full FM demo when it comes and delegating whatever possible to see how it plays before making decision whether/what to buy.

    It would for me unfortunately. I'm a tablet player not a PC player. My only option now is the mobile version, which I try nearly every year, but I just don't get a buzz from it 

  10. I've come across issue number 1. It always happens if the ref blows for halftime during a highlight. Luckily number 2 hasn't happened to me as of yet. With number 3, I've berated my players instead of praising them quite a few times haha, they probably deserve it.

  11. I'm not actually sure if this is a bug or just a change in the game so apologies if the latter. You can no longer view the 3 goals of the month. Also, other news items dont have any options that used to be at the bottom. I think this is a separate issue to the news item one. If not apologies again. 

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