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  1. Just now, robot_skeleton said:

    About the 4231: You want your AM to be the main man, yet you use a playmaker behind him. Your two wingers will do the same and cut inside, dribble, shoot=not much for the opposition to think about.

    Let's think about how your striker is getting supply/support. The player on the left can be an inside forward, cutting inside, shooting, having someone overlap. Great! Then you have the AM providing through balls, connecting the midfieled (btw is he doing that?), on the right you could have a different type of role providing a different type of attack than the guy on the left. Like Wide target man, winger.

     

    What's your thinking behind the PIs you have given to this player?

    I've given him those instructions because he has a ton of skill such as touch, off the ball and lots of high mental attributes.  Honestly just trying to give him quality touches in or outside the box.

  2. Just now, frukox said:

    Two IFs and APS congest the middle making it harder for your AMC to operate.

    Your AF is also isolated up there.

    The right IF doesn't get proper support from his fb. 

    Usually shorter passing is enough alone unless the opponent is a deep and narrow block.

    Your DMD might not have enough close passing options.

    You actually make good points about the IFs...  The reason i put them as IF is that they don't cross well, but they do dribble well and was hoping to FEED the AMC.  But it could cause them all demanding the ball in the same area.

  3. 21 minutes ago, LHurlz said:

    Okay fair enough.  I generally agree with you tbh and tend to struggle getting much consistency from an AMC whenever I use one.  I'm currently using a 4231 myself and my AMC has 4 goals and 2 assists in 7 games, but 3 of those goals came in one game and the other was a penalty:lol:  

    My other issue is that he starts EVERY game as Aggressive and unhappy and i have to give him like 3 shout outs a match to calm down.  It's been one of my worst signings because im stuck playing with him at AMC bc of this arbitrary promise i had to make.

    I would much rather just put him as an attacking central mid that can dribble up field into space at least.  But if i did that he would be unhappy and want a transfer.

  4. 5 minutes ago, LHurlz said:

    Better to post a screenshot of the type of tactic you've regularly been using :)

    I have played 4-2-3-1 and now am trying an aysmetrical 4-2-3-1 to try and get the AMC as much space as possible.  I want to talk about peoples experience with the AMC position rather than nit pick my line up.  I feel like the role gets worse and worse every year.  I cant get a talented AMC to barely get a goal or assist.

  5. I have a super talented AMC that wants to only play AMC (it was a promise i had to say yes to) and every formaiton I try and create he seems to just not get any great amount of touches.  It seems like the ball just largely get's passed around him.

     

    I've played over 10 years of FM and it seems like every year the AMC role keeps getting more useless.

     

    My play a regular possession system.

  6. 59 minutes ago, Manutd1999 said:

    In general I think you are right. It's been acknowledged by SI that the current ME has significant issues with central play. In particular, I too have noted players in the AMC slot (regardless of role) see very little of the ball and if they get it, they pass either out wide or backwards. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's more difficult than it should be, as evidenced by the number of similar threads on here....

    However, the issues seem less pronounced if you move your number 10 into midfield (if possible). A player attacking from deep seems to receive more of the ball and in turn is a more creative threat. So instead of a 4-3-1-2, maybe make it a 4-1-3-2, with the AMC moved in it the central CM position? Obviously there maybe other changes as well, I'm sure others will be along to help with the details of your tactic.

    That's actually exactly what i want to do.  I'm retraining the kid to play CM and go 4-1-3-2, which ends up being really strong.  

    I have noticed a lot of threads about problems with central attacking mids.  The game is dominated right now by wide play.

  7. Tactics; 4-3-1-2 vertical tika taka modified. Play through the middle, short passes, underlap

     

    My midfielders get their touches
    My fullbacks get their touches
    My strikers get their touches
     

    I wish there was a "Pass to this guy more" instruction 

    My expensive number 10 (who is super talented) get's the fewest touches on the team and it's not even close.  They just pass the ball around him, out to the full backs, back to the midfielders.  Through ball to the strikers from deep.  I'm convinced my only option is to retrain him as a standard midfielder.

  8. Just now, Experienced Defender said:

    DLP is a midfield role, not a striker. Perhaps you meant DLF?

    Anyway, it's not just about the striker trio, but all areas need some rearrangement. 

    Yes i did in fact mean DLF.  My center striker always under-performs and doesn't get that much touches.

     

    I went from a 4312 with almost the same exact tactics as this, but now want to go to 433 because i got another good striker for value on the transfer market.  So i'm trying to get all three of my strikers to play well together.  But whoever i have play the center striker struggles because of the lack of touches.

     

    I'm in the bundisliga 2 which is notoriously defensive.  

  9. Just now, Experienced Defender said:

    Way too many instructions, some of which are very likely to constitute tactical overkill while others are mutually inconsistent, plus a fairly poorly balanced setup of roles and duties. Not to mention a needlessly aggressive manner of defending, especially considering the type of your formation. 

    I might streamline some of the tactics actually.  The striker trio, would you put my DLP in the middle?

  10. 1 minute ago, Experienced Defender said:

    You should not be obsessed with the (green) circle of role suitability suggested by the game, because it can sometimes be misleading. Instead, focus your attention to player attributes to determine how suitable a player would be for a given role. If a player has the right set of attributes for a role, then he can play that role whatever the circle says. 

    But looking at your tactic, I fear you are likely to struggle anyway (unless it's some downloaded plug'n'play/exploit tactic). 

    What part of my setup are you skeptical of?

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