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    Gian Piero Gasperini at Atalanta Case Study

    in Tactics, Training & Strategies Discussion

    Posted · Edited by Valtte

    2 hours ago, SixPointer said:

    Nice work. How do the pass maps look? Do you get the nice diamond shapes?

    In this FM version, Enganche does not participate as well in the game as in previous versions (when using this tactic, don't know overall). I can't really say what is the reason for that. This is perhaps the only so-called problem with tactic at the moment. It's not a big deal for me, just a little detail.

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    Gian Piero Gasperini at Atalanta Case Study

    in Tactics, Training & Strategies Discussion

    Posted

    1 hour ago, Mutumba said:

    What do you mean "locked wide". Just a player instruction "stay wider"?

    Some roles have "stay wider" instruction and add stay wider to strikers (could also add to wingbacks). Basically the whole point about the tactic is focus left/right team instruction and how roles emphasize this, like example SCr, MCr, WCBr all have stay wider player instuctions and same with the left-sided roles.

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    Gian Piero Gasperini at Atalanta Case Study

    in Tactics, Training & Strategies Discussion

    Posted · Edited by Valtte

    I could also add that you can do also it using 4-3-1-2. Not a Gasperini thing IRL but it's just a good thing to have if feel like you need to change. I usually use it when opp gets a red card or if opp plays with a lone striker and they play really defensively - some 5-4-1 catenaccio or something. 

    Same team instructions as in my post above. 

    SK-S

    CD-D / BPD-D

    CD-D / BPD-D

    DR: WB-A (cross more, close down more)

    DL: WB-A (cross more, close down more)

    MC: CAR-S (locked wider)

    MC: DLP-D, DLP-S or CM-D 

    MC: CAR-S (locked wider)

    EG-S (also could be AM-S with roaming)

    DLF-A (wider)

    DLF-A (wider)

    every player except GK and SCs have "mark tighter".

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    Gian Piero Gasperini at Atalanta Case Study

    in Tactics, Training & Strategies Discussion

    Posted

    42 minutes ago, SixPointer said:

    I Like it!! And do you see the correct patterns of play? Pressing and the wide diamond combinations? 

    I've played thousands of games with this tactic in these different FM versions, so i can probably say that i like how it works in current engine :D Wide overloads are definitely the thing with this tactic. Because i've played so many games, i no longer doubt whether the tactic will work, so i just focus on building the team and finding the right players. You need physical players that tight marking thing works. I also feel that this system is great for lower leagues because basically you need only one creative player. At the moment i'm playing Brazilian lower leagues with Santa Cruz.

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    Gian Piero Gasperini at Atalanta Case Study

    in Tactics, Training & Strategies Discussion

    Posted · Edited by Valtte

    I have played my Gasperini replika now about 3 or 4 years. My basic setup has been basically same all these years. It's easily my favorite FM tactic nowadays and almost every save i try first something new and then i change to this. I usually make a little tweaks here and there, depending on what kind of players I have. Special thing in my replica are the roles that have wider player instruction, which improves those wide overloads, just like Gasperini has IRL. I try to find taller strikers, like Zapata who can score from crosses.

    My setup: 3-4-1-2

    SK-S

    WCB-D (locked wider)

    CD-C / LIB-S / BPD-C (depends on what kind of defenders i have)

    WCB-D (locked wider)

    WB-A (cross more, close down more)

    CAR-S (locked wider)

    CAR-S (locked wider)

    WB-A (cross more, close down more)

    EG-S (also could be AM-S with roaming)

    DLF-A (wider)

    DLF-A (wider)

    also every player except GK and SCs have "mark tighter".

    Positive

    Play out of defence

    Fairly Wide

    Focus left/right

    Work ball into box (could be also off)

    passing&tempo: Shorter/slighty slower or Slightly shorter/slightly higher

    Underlap left/right: sometimes off, sometimes on. I can't decide which works better.

    Dstr CBs & FBs

    Counter-press

    Higher dline

    Mid block

    Trigger press more often

    Prevent gk dstr

    Get Stuck in

    Drop off more

    Trap outside

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    The Regista role

    in Tactics, Training & Strategies Discussion

    Posted · Edited by Valtte

    13 minutes ago, ThomasHK1979 said:

    How about Regista combined with BWM?

    Sure, why not, if you have that type of player. It is usually good to have strong defensive and/or two-way players with regista. Like AC Milan had, defensive shape 4-4-2/4-4-1-1 Seedorf-Ambrosini-Pirlo-Gattuso and attacking phase transformed to legendary christmas tree 4-3-2-1. I think if you choose to play 4-2-3-1, defensive player with regista is good choice. Attributes are more important than role "accuracy". BWM, DM, HF etc. are fine choices.

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    The Regista role

    in Tactics, Training & Strategies Discussion

    Posted

    14 hours ago, ThomasHK1979 said:

    Is it possible to use a Regista in a Gegenpress 4231 system or should I stick to the usual DLP? I have Bennacer. 

    I love regista role, imo the best role in the game. 

    It's all about the tempo. If you play super fast gegenpress style like germans, usually regista isn't nothing special. If you play little bit slower (much slower <-> normal tempo), more methodical possession style with gegenpress, regista the best role. Regista needs to be one of the best players in your team. Had 12y long journeyman save and my regista won 8 times player of the year. Different players, leagues and formations. Played one season with 4-2-3-1, DMC roles were regista and half-back. My HF was basically copy of Matic so it was easy choice. If you play 4-2-3-1, your AMC role choice is quite interesting. I think it should be more aggressive, goalscorer player and role, maybe AM-A or even Shadow Striker.

    Hope it helps, some random thoughts.

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    Roma under Don Fabio Capello

    in Tactics, Training & Strategies Discussion

    Posted · Edited by Valtte

    For what it's worth, 

    "base" formation

    Quote

    -------------------Antonioli 
    ------Zebina-----Samuel-----Zago 
    Cafu----Tommasi----Zanetti----Candela 
    --------------------Totti 
    -------------Batistuta---Delvecchio 
     

    defend

    Quote

    -------------------Antonioli 
    Zebina----Samuel----Zago----Candela 
    Cafu----Tommasi----Zanetti--Delvecchio 
    --------------------Totti 
    ------------------Batistuta 

    attack

    Quote

    -------------------Antonioli 
    ------Zebina-----Samuel----Zago 
    -------Tommasi------Zanetti---Candela 
    Cafu-----Batistuta----Totti-----Delvecchio

    or

    -------------------Antonioli 
    ------Zebina-----Samuel----Zago 
    -------Tommasi------Zanetti---Candela

    -----------------------Totti----------------------- 
    Cafu-----Batistuta--------------Delvecchio

    and when they get a lead and wanted to close out game

    Quote

    Cafu--Zebina--Samuel--Zago--Candela 

    ----Tommasi---Zanetti---Delvecchio---- 

    ------------------Totti----------------------- 

    ----------------Batistuta-------------------- 

    It was a really flexible system. Capello loved Zebina because he was basically RB/CB hybrid so he could change 4-back to 3-back. Couple years later did same with Juve (Zebina-Thuram-Cannavaro, Zambrotta attacked like maniac etc.).

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