[*Official* Football Manager 2023 Feedback Thread]

1 minute ago, TheArsenal63 said:

If you are referring to me, at least quote me so I can reply.

Every software team DOES have best practices, there are industry standards for how software teams should work (should being the operatice word here), for example agile methodology.

Finally nowhere in my reply do I even say all software teams should work the same, you've created a straw man and are using that as an argument. Doesn't work.

Thanks for proving my point that you don't know what you're talking about. Perhaps your previous post could have listened to this one and then you'd know you couldn't possibly know what issues a game studio has.

[*Official* Football Manager 2023 Feedback Thread]

So many terrible hot takes. One guy who thinks every software team works like his does, then another who thinks the same person coding physics and animation is the same person coding AI decision making in the match engine.

[Football Manager 2020 January & February Transfer Updates Feedback Thread]

11 minutes ago, Toonrock said:

- Then release it every two years; With just some extra features (not involving the ME) and DB-update in-between... Like so many other game developers, not necessarily releasing a brand new game every year... Don´t get it simply.

You could buy it every two years if that would make you happier.

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8 hours ago, Welshace said:

Can I ask Neil, or anyone who feels they have the authority to answer, where do we go from here? do you think we should stop playing the game if we aren't happy with the engine in its current form? Is your post suggesting we don't buy the next either, because, as you mentioned, the team are happy with how it's working and progressing? 

I guess i'm basically asking, is this the devs way of suggesting maybe that everyone who isn't happy with the ME should probably just go away as the team doesn't recognise their concerns as valid?

No, the way I read it is the dev's way of thanking people for their feedback to help improve the game in the longer term. That's far from invalid and they want more of the constructive feedback. Stuff is prioritised but that doesn't mean customers and fans are wrong.

But if you have to spend time asking the question "should I play or buy if I don't like it", the answer is never yes. 

They don't control their own customers. You are free to go do whatever you want. 

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2 minutes ago, sorrenmills said:

They already *are* developing next year's edition - that's the curse of being absolutely wedded, rightly or wrongly, to a yearly release schedule...

That's just product development for you.

At some point though you need to move on to the next major version, so you can do things with new features and functionality that you couldn't do with fixes in a patch, ie:

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We're constantly working on improving and have a roadmap that carries on for many years on how we can go about doing this. The fact the scale of our ambitions for the future requires such a considerable timescale indicates the difficulty and scope of the work ahead.

To change and evolve such detailed and comprehensive code takes time across multiple disciplines. Planning, reviewing, implementing and testing. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Koffing said:

Public beta seems like a trick  to stall players in order to gain more time for fixing ME. The CCCs are reduced so low that the ME relies on goals from longshot and chaotic ways.I had a game resutled 6-3 and the CCCs are 2 to 1. The defenders zombies all the time, does nothing after clearence from defending a set piece while opposite cuts the ball back and scores. Penalties are still a joke, as my main penalty kicker scored only 1 in 4 with a penalty taking 15. Guys with dribbling 9 can run past all the field and make an assist while my defenders zombies,long shot 6 players make screamers while finishing 15 players stuck in 1on1s. I think SI should publish a FM2020 remastered version next year as the current match engine does whatever he likes.

It's a football management simulation, not a card game like Pokemon or Topps Trumps. The ME takes more than single attributes into account.

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34 minutes ago, Double0Seven said:

On the other hand, they are customers, not testers so its not that unexpected. Why should paid customers test a game that still has issues in January? Shouldnt they have a working product and not be beta testers in January? I can understand people not so happy about this situation. 

Also, maybe it would be easier to report bugs if they could do it in game with a single click. The current bug reporting process is not that modern tbh. 

This is why it's a beta, and what a beta is for. Paid customers don't have to "test", they can stay on the final version instead. 

Software development always has a beta phase before a roll out. That's exactly what it is, and what these kinds of builds are. Testing doesn't stop and beta doesn't stop just because it was released once to the public.