[The games intelligence.]

ive also had after losing a cup game "I expect you all to put in a much better performance than the last game" - even though ive named 11 different players, there needs to be more depth in the game to understand these things, same as the comment above about a striker being compared to an average winger! 

i agree with the earlier post- the game is in a holding pattern.... sometimes that thought makes it ok for me, its the same old game with a £30 data update each year...

[The games intelligence.]

To start, I enjoy the game, great way to pass the time and have played it for donkeys years now. 

However, I am getting a bit bored of the lack of intelligence, for example - just secured survival on the final day, won our last 3 games and the season summary is talking about our start being what kept us up (first 6 games we scored 1 point losing heavily in the others)

Press conference question "you have a chance of getting out the relegation zone if you win today" - we are 3 points behind but also 20 goals behind.. so no, we dont have a realistic chance. 

Press conference in 2024 - Notts Forest had a surprising defeat at Man City (Man City are champions, Forest are in relegation zone)

Hot topic- Arroyo set for reunion with Klopp... (Arroyo played zero games for Klopp)

 

I would love to see the game evolve, a little effort put in the intelligence instead of simple "If this then that" items that make no sense. 

Just wondering if others feel this way? (dont get me wrong like I say I enjoy the game just wish they did more with each edition)

[Why FM23 is out of date and a little simple]

9 hours ago, Artin said:

someone on reddit posted a few days ago their best player wanted out of the team to go to another team bec of lack of champion's league football.

problem is, the team they want to go to will not be in the champion's league next season but his team will be next season since they are currently leading the league halfway through the season!

this frustrates me, im 30 points clear in the championship, in 1month ill be a premier league club, my player wants to leave for a premier league club that in 1 month will be in the championship because they want to be playing in a higher league. Just needs some more code to allow the players to think ahead a little?! :-P

59 minutes ago, dunk105 said:

These two, are actually due to the game being intelligent and you not noticing or being aware of subtleties and mechanics in the game:

 

Players get upset I sell my goalie - because they dont remember a week earlier I signed a superstar goalie. (Simple programming, they have no 'memory')

This is because of squad dynamics- its likely you have sold a popular and influential player so only natural that his team mates will be unhappy.

 

Player is unhappy I am not playing him in his preferred position, despite me having a world beating player in that position and the unhappy player having his best season ever (they have no clue of whats going on around them).

Here its easily dealt with as you can talk to him and explain that you cant change your winning tactics for one player. If he is having a great season then why would he not question not being able to play in his favourite position, and also that despite his good form you've bought a replacement that pushes him out of his favoured position? This again if he is influential player, of course he will question it!

 

Its not perfect granted but these two examples are down to you not taking into consideration player dynamics and assuming just buying better players will always be universally liked- there is a lot more to consider when making these moves.

good points!

i think my annoyance is more that I can't always say what I want. I currently have players unhappy I didnt sign a great midfielder but the guy I did bring in has amazing stats and is performing really well, I cant seem to tell the team "look at this guy hes great" 

 

All good fun!  

[Why FM23 is out of date and a little simple]

Love all the replies, I think this post was just a bit of a rant by me - I have always had a bit of a daydream of how I would like my perfect Football Manager game to be, but each year I find I am playing the same game just an updated version, I get that slight feeling the FM team are "just" in it for the money not the art of making the best version of their game. 

I wonder if a programmer says to the boss- we have a year to work on FM24 - can I take a week to update them player face graphics? and the boss says "Naaaah people buy it anyway, go take a holiday". 

oh! just thought of another one- I change all 11 players for a cup game, then select the "I WANT YOU TO PLAY HOW YOU DID LAST WEEK" - and all the 11 respond well. Even though they didnt play last week. Just shatters the realism. 

Still, it is what it is and I wont lose sleep over it  

 

[Why FM23 is out of date and a little simple]

So I love footy manager, its a great game to casually play whilst watching tv or similar. But over the years I have noticed the "intelligence" of the game is just not progressing, in a world of advance AI, Football Manager is getting left behind. 

Some examples- I earn promotion from the Championship - but players/staff still reject me as they see me as a Championship club - right up to the moment the game updates to the new season... a couple of months after I secured promotion. In the real world people would know this is going to be a premier league club.

Championship season review- I win the league by 25 points. Yet the story of the season goes to Wigan for securing 11th (the simple algorithm that they should have finished 17th)

Players get upset I sell my goalie - because they dont remember a week earlier I signed a superstar goalie. (Simple programming, they have no 'memory')

Player is unhappy I am not playing him in his preferred position, despite me having a world beating player in that position and the unhappy player having his best season ever (they have no clue of whats going on around them)

Using the player search function - the "clear" button still doesnt work (the core code never changes they just polish the game)

I know its just a game (as I say it is fun) and I know the answer is "make your own better game then" I just fail to see how it takes a year to update a few parts.

Sorry for the rant, I guess I just wish there was a little competition out there so that Footy manager was pushed to try and do better each year.