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I genuinely didn't mean that, was just a terrible coincidental choice of words :o

Back on topic - peter, when are you going to start working on the wiki again? :D

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FYI there are some very good league guides, especially of obscure leagues, on FM Britain. They would come in handy for people who like to play with weird leagues or teams, perhaps you should ask them if you can use some of their stuff.

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[quote name='Elrithral']FYI there are some very good league guides, especially of obscure leagues, on FM Britain. They would come in handy for people who like to play with weird leagues or teams, perhaps you should ask them if you can use some of their stuff.[/QUOTE]
Cool.

I shall get in contact :)

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[url=http://www.fm-britain.co.uk/forums/index.php?showforum=43]Link to FM Britain League Guides[/url]

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Those guides are excellent! I doubt we'll get permission to use them though.

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[quote name='ahmufcwafc']Those guides are excellent! I doubt we'll get permission to use them though.[/QUOTE]
Worth a try :)

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Reword them and Bob's your sister, i'm pretty sure they have basically reworded wiki descriptions anyway.

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Certainly is. Go and do your best to get permission mr representative!

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[quote name='ahmufcwafc']Certainly is. Go and do your best to get permission mr representative![/QUOTE]
I have wrote a post in their forums. May well get closed but I am hoping for a response. :)

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[quote name='Elrithral']I'll happily write new ones if you wish.[/QUOTE]

I'd really appreciate it if you're willing to do some work for us :)

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[quote name='ahmufcwafc']I'd really appreciate it if you're willing to do some work for us :)[/QUOTE]

What's the pay like?

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[quote name='Elrithral']What's the pay like?[/QUOTE]
:D

I am hoping for a good response over there to be honest.

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[quote name='peter-evo']I have wrote a post in their forums. May well get closed but I am hoping for a response. :)[/QUOTE]

Yeah, most likely will be closed - I think it probably wouldve been best if you emailed their webmaster and kept it private, but sure we can't change it now. Link?

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[quote name='ahmufcwafc']Yeah, most likely will be closed - I think it probably wouldve been best if you emailed their webmaster and kept it private, but sure we can't change it now. Link?[/QUOTE]
Their main site is down as that is what I originally planned to do.

[url]http://www.fm-britain.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=9648&pid=144303&st=0&#entry144303[/url]

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[quote name='Elrithral']What's the pay like?[/QUOTE]

Your starting pay will be the exact same as mine :(

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I'll add what I have done, when I get the chance.

Edit: FM Britain have said it's ok to use their guides so that's a lot less work for me :thup:

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Great news that. Who wants to add them?

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I'll add some happily, but am not a member of FMBritain so can't get them directly off there. Any other way you know, or will I have to sign up?

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[quote name='arsenal_2111']I'll add some happily, but am not a member of FMBritain so can't get them directly off there. Any other way you know, or will I have to sign up?[/QUOTE]
Just sign up.

That's fantastic news.

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Hmm, it won't let me register. Says the email address you used is not accepted by this board. Please select a different email address. It's a hotmail.com adress, is that why?

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I can put it on the wiki if you like jammy. Also, I think we all need to discuss the format of club guides. I got rid of some of the headers to make it look like wikipedia style intros a few days back, but I'm now thinking maybe we should come up with a new structure. What are your opinions on this?

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It'd be great if you could, if not then i'm sure others would be able to do them.

What sort of format are you suggesting? When I made them I made them as similar as I could, depending on what was in each guide.

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Anything that stops the index from being the first think you see on the page, with the intro above it. That's what I've done, but then the index looks a bit messy. What do you think yourself?

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Yeah, I kind of see what you mean.

The real life information bit now isn't very easy to see, and the index looks a bit lost. I'm not really sure how it could be changed, but it could be better.

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Might as well explain it clearer in case some of you don't get me (not aimed at you jammy fwiw, I think you know what I'm on about.

[url=http://www.footballmanagerwiki.co.uk/index.php?title=Manchester_United]Man Utd Page[/url]
[url=http://www.footballmanagerwiki.co.uk/index.php?title=Chelsea]Chelsea page[/url]

Now, out of those two examples, which do you prefer? My problem with the Chelsea article is that it looks very bare without an introduction. I feel that the nickname, location etc should be put above the index - re-worded & with a bit more information included. What do you all think?

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[quote name='ahmufcwafc']Might as well explain it clearer in case some of you don't get me (not aimed at you jammy fwiw, I think you know what I'm on about.

[url=http://www.footballmanagerwiki.co.uk/index.php?title=Manchester_United]Man Utd Page[/url]
[url=http://www.footballmanagerwiki.co.uk/index.php?title=Chelsea]Chelsea page[/url]

Now, out of those two examples, which do you prefer? My problem with the Chelsea article is that it looks very bare without an introduction. I feel that the nickname, location etc should be put above the index - re-worded & with a bit more information included. What do you all think?[/QUOTE]

Yes, I agree that the Utd article looks better. But about 1/10 of articles have a reasonable amount of intro, so on the majority it would just be a sentence or two on the top of the page. It would be pointless having that, as it would be missed half the time. Look at the [url=http://www.footballmanagerwiki.co.uk/index.php?title=Liverpool]Liverpool Page[/url] for example. The real life information is a couple of lines, not including the peice about former managers (which I don't think is really needed, may delete it if no one minds). Yes, it will be a bit of an introduction. But in my opinion it would look a little ridiculous having one or two lines. A paragraph is needed minimum, and that is a lot of work.

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[quote name='CaptainPlanet']Looking at setting up a dedicated Football Manager wiki site, to cover all incarnations of the game and provide a basis of information for people to refer too, with everything from tactics to patches.

Anybody else interesting in helping support this project?

[url]http://www.footballmanagerwiki.co.uk/index.php?title=Main_Page[/url][/QUOTE]

o rly

nice to see my advice taken on board

layout is great

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[quote name='Galactus']o rly

nice to see my advice taken on board

layout is great[/QUOTE]
Glad you like it mate.

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[quote name='Galactus']o rly

nice to see my advice taken on board

layout is great[/QUOTE]

I don't really understand what you mean by this post, could you explain please?

And also, I assume o rly is text speak not a bunch of random letters. I have no idea what it means, and I'm sure others wouldn't either, so try and refrain from text talk in future posts. :thup:

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[quote name='arsenal_2111']Yes, I agree that the Utd article looks better. But about 1/10 of articles have a reasonable amount of intro, so on the majority it would just be a sentence or two on the top of the page. It would be pointless having that, as it would be missed half the time. Look at the [URL="http://www.footballmanagerwiki.co.uk/index.php?title=Liverpool"]Liverpool Page[/URL] for example. The real life information is a couple of lines, not including the peice about former managers (which I don't think is really needed, may delete it if no one minds). Yes, it will be a bit of an introduction. But in my opinion it would look a little ridiculous having one or two lines. A paragraph is needed minimum, and that is a lot of work.[/quote]
I know what you mean. I think I'll have a scan through the club guides and mark all of those without proper introductions as stubs. I'll then list out all the stubs later on tonight :thup:
[quote name='Galactus']o rly

nice to see my advice taken on board

layout is great[/quote]
Cheers Galactus.
[quote name='arsenal_2111']I don't really understand what you mean by this post, could you explain please?

And also, I assume o rly is text speak not a bunch of random letters. I have no idea what it means, and I'm sure others wouldn't either, so try and refrain from text talk in future posts. :thup:[/quote]O rly = Oh really

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Is this openly editable?

I want to try beef up this wiki.

Also is there a set/layout I should follow in order to maintain consistency in the articles appearance?

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[quote name='Galactus']Is this openly editable?

I want to try beef up this wiki.[/quote]
You'll need to register to edit. Mainly down to some people spamming our pages earlier :rolleyes:

Welcome anyway Galactus.

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I'm going to try get a SPL bit done also see my edit.

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[quote name='Galactus']Is this openly editable?

I want to try beef up this wiki.

Also is there a set/layout I should follow in order to maintain consistency in the articles appearance?[/quote]
Well, we don't have any general guide written up (which reminds me, I really have to get around to doing that). Just try to follow the general layout of most of the other articles for now :thup:

[URL="http://www.footballmanagerwiki.co.uk/index.php?title=Club_Guide_Template"]But for club guides, this.[/URL]

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[SIZE=4]Club Guides[/SIZE]
[I]*Not too serious, just missing introductions for most[/I]
AJ Auxerre
Cherbourg
Doncaster Rovers
FC Porto
Fulham
Getafe
Hull City
Inverness Caledonian Thistle
LA Galaxy
Liverpool
Luton Town
Man City
PSV
Panathinaikos
Preston North End
Real Madrid
Redditch
Southampton
Stockport
Stoke City
Valencia

[SIZE=4]Nation Guides[/SIZE]
Canada
Holland
Mexico
Russia
USA

[SIZE=4]Player Profiles[/SIZE]
Anatoli Todorov
Landon Donovan

[SIZE=4]Gameplay[/SIZE]
Bosman Transfers
Manager Options
Training Facilities

[SIZE=4]Graphics & Skinning[/SIZE]
Graphics Packs
Skins

[SIZE=4]Editing[/SIZE]
Database Editor
How to add your own regen [I](Doesn't explain how to add the regen at all)[/I]

[SIZE=4]Miscellaneous[/SIZE]
Championship Manager
Sports Interactive

[SIZE=4]Empty Pages[/SIZE]
Chicago Fire
Chivas USA
Colorado Rapids
Columbus Crew
DC United
FC Dallas
Houston Dynamo
New England Revolution
New York Red Bulls
Kansas City Wizards
San Jose Earthquakes
Toronto FC
Dani Aquino
Coaches
Physios


Yeah, so this is how we stand at the moment. Most of these that I've listed (in particular the club guides) have quite a lot of information. It's just that they're missing that extra bit of information that would make them feel complete imo. Just to let anyone that has any knowledge on these subjects know :thup:

This has been posted in a seperate topic in the wiki forum as well.

I think we need to do something to make the club guide template stand out more - maybe put it on the front page? Maybe it's time to replace the 'why we set this up' part. Also, I'm going to write up a general guide to making wiki pages.

One last reminder - don't be afraid to add/remove stub tags from pages.

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I think I'm responsible for most of the MLS club pages. :p

I just need to time enough time to write them. :rolleyes:

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[quote name='rancer890']I think I'm responsible for most of the MLS club pages. :p

I just need to time enough time to write them. :rolleyes:[/quote]
Hey no worries, just do them when you have the time mate. And of course when you feel like doing them :p

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[quote name='arsenal_2111']I'll do the Manager options page now.[/quote]
Good stuff. I'm adding the FM-Britain articles now :thup:

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[quote name='ahmufcwafc']Good stuff. I'm adding the FM-Britain articles now :thup:[/QUOTE]

I've done the article as much as I can.

It doesn't look like it's much there, but it has everything in it and there is nothing else I can add to it without making it waffle.

If you think anything else needs to be added either do it yourself or tell me and I'll do it:thup:

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It's one of those topics where there isn't a lot to be said. I don't think there's much else to be added :thup:

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FM-Britain management said we can use any of the Lower League articles [B]as long as there is a reference to the creator AND a link to the original.[/B]

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[quote name='peter-evo']FM-Britain management said we can use any of the Lower League articles [B]as long as there is a reference to the creator AND a link to the original.[/B][/quote]
Fair enough, I've already given credit to the creator, so now I'll link to the article :thup:

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[quote name='ahmufcwafc']It's one of those topics where there isn't a lot to be said. I don't think there's much else to be added :thup:[/QUOTE]

Thats what I thought, which is why I removed the stub tag.

[quote name='peter-evo']FM-Britain management said we can use any of the Lower League articles [B]as long as there is a reference to the creator AND a link to the original.[/B][/QUOTE]

So could we use a disclaimer, like in the club guides?

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[quote name='arsenal_2111']Thats what I thought, which is why I removed the stub tag.



So could we use a disclaimer, like in the club guides?[/QUOTE]
Yes, just with the name of the creator and a link to the article :thup:

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In the Database Editor article, why is the FMRTE link there? Thats not about database editor, thats a save game editor I think.

I realise it mentions FMRTE, but imo it would be best to create a save game editor page and link to it in there. Linking to FMRTE in the database editor page could cause confusion imo.

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[quote name='arsenal_2111']In the Database Editor article, why is the FMRTE link there? Thats not about database editor, thats a save game editor I think.

I realise it mentions FMRTE, but imo it would be best to create a save game editor page and link to it in there. Linking to FMRTE in the database editor page could cause confusion imo.[/quote]
That's my mistake, fixed now.

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[quote name='ahmufcwafc']That's my mistake, fixed now.[/QUOTE]

Not really a mistake, but ok then :D

I've made a few changes to that article, do you think it's ready to have the Stub tag taken off? I'm not sure how much more could be put in.

[url]http://www.footballmanagerwiki.co.uk/index.php?title=Database_Editor[/url]

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