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New player working on incrementally building tactical understanding

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Apologies in advance for the for the huge block of text, and thanks in advance for any responses!

I am coming back to Football Manager this year for the first time since '07, and am absolutely enamored with the game. I was initially drawn back in by the depth of the business simulation aspects but am quickly realizing that the games themselves are the real draw. Unfortunately for me at this point, there is so much to learn about FM and football in general that I really do not know where to start. The incredibly useful info on this forum has helped me better understand the fundamental concept of creating space pretty well, but am unable to move beyond that first level of analysis. Life is a marathon and not a sprint, so I am going to take a long-term approach to learning and start from square one.

To that end, I was wondering if anybody has any feedback on the first steps of my "learning plan" below. It is very conceptual, but in theory will help me start learning the basics of football tactics, understand how those tactics can be employed in FM, and begin to analyze why a tactic is/is not working.

1. Establishing tactical strategy: Assuming my opponent with a basic 4-4-2, how do I develop a tactical strategy based around a given formation? While opponents are dynamic and complex, this will give me a base-level understanding. I will start by getting experience with the following: 

  • How to create scoring opportunities: What are all the different ways to create space with a formation, and how can that space be used to create scoring chances? e.g. A wide AMF can cut inside can create space on the wing for an advancing LB/RB to get a clean cross to a player in the box for a header. 
  • Mitigating risks associated with creating space: For each way you can create space, how are you leaving yourself vulnerable on defense? e.g. An advanced LB/RB could be left caught out on a counterattack if possession is lost, but the risk could be mitigated if a DM or additional CB can cover the wing without leaving another attacker unmarked.
  • Avoiding movement pattern conflicts: Identify potential conflicts between desired movement patterns. e.g. Learning to identify when the combination of player movement patterns can lead to multiple players looking for the same space, a player unintentionally drawing a defender into open space, or a single defender or DM being left to mark multiple opponent attackers.
  • Settling on a style of play: As a system, how will my team need to play to create scoring opportunities and mitigate risk? e.g. If I want to play positively and create several scoring opportunities each game, several of my players will need to be offensively focused, either as attackers or in support of the attack.

2. Definitions: After developing an general understanding of formations, the next step would be to what the different roles and player instructions available are and how they can be used to achieve the movement needed to execute identified strategies for creating scoring opportunities and mitigating defensive risk.

  • Roles: What is each role, and how can it help me achieve the movement needed to create scoring opportunities and mitigate defensive risk?
  • Player instructions: How can player instructions be utilized to fine tune a player's role?
  • Team instructions: What do team instructions do, how do they help achieve a given style of play.

3. Execution: After understanding how to translate my style of play and offensive/defensive strategies into a basic tactic, how can I ensure it functions as well as I envision?

  • Identifying key player attributes: What attributes (not specifically defined FM attributes) would players in a tactic need to successfully execute their creation of scoring opportunities while mitigating the associated risk? e.g. The wide AMF cutting inside would (among other things) need to be quick, understand how to move off the ball, and understand how to do so in the context of the team's system. 
  • Adjusting tactic based on opponent style of play: While my developed tactic might work against a vanilla 4-4-2, how can I adjust it to function against opponents with different formations and styles of play?

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Thanks again for any thoughts and for all of the incredible guides this community has already put together!

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Like you I came back to FM after many years of not playing.  The game has improved a ton and I really enjoy it.  Daljit @Rashidi(not sure of his handle here)  has a website/patreon set up that really helped my tactical understanding of the game.  Check him out at "Bust the Net."   He already has a bunch of free videos on Youtube.  You are asking the right questions so I think you are off in the right directions.  The best advice Daljit gave me was to visualize what you want your tactic to do.  It sounds too simple, but indeed, that's its charm.  When I do that I simply build it into the tactic.  Copying famous clubs' tactics is a great way to start.  After you have built your dream tactic you will need to make sure you have the player attributes to perform the roles and duties associated with that tactic.

All of this has made my enjoyment of watching live matches even better as well.  Enjoy!

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Thanks! Glad to hear you think I'm on the right track.

I appreciate the advice on visualization. Giving it a little thought, it's easy to do a couple players at a time; trying to play out more than 3-4 players, however, and my head hurts hah.

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Hi.  I think you'll need to scout about to answer all those questions.  Check the guides stickied to this forum.  TIFO do some nice videos and this -> is a great site https://spielverlagerung.com/2014/09/16/the-half-spaces/ and I've linked you straight to an interesting article. Oh and typically follow the posters that articulate their responses well (simply as a rule of thumb) because there is the occasional bit of nonsense in some of the threads.  All the best.

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Thanks for the link, there's a wealth of helpful info there! 

Agreed that the answers to the questions will largely be answered through scattered articles and experiential learning. My goal was mostly just to get a sense of whether the framework/outline I posted makes sense as a road map for what to focus on (ie 1) high-level tactical considerations -> 2) translating those into FM -> 3) understanding what it takes to execute a sound tactic).

In any case, after reading a lot on these forums I completely agree with you on the depth of the knowledge shared as well as the noise. I can relate to the noisemakers; my first step of learning  so far with this series is getting my irrational complaining out before digging in and figuring out why things actually went wrong.

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Judging by your opening post, they way you are thinking about the game and looking to research some, I suspect you are in for hours (if not weeks of fun).  You're definitely considering some tactical aspects worth exploring but have fun on the way, don't over think it as that's a problem all in itself, one I'm guilty of.

On the way to (re)building your knowledge my advice would be not to go too extreme with strategies or concepts.  Balanced approach and common sense goes a long way.

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