jamie_B_105 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Starting a new season, for me the highlight of the game is pulling a 5 star youngster from your youth academy and seeing him grow into a world class player I was wondering, what factors contribute to your youth academy and pulling better youngsters on the FM Mobile Version? Currently I have the following youth coaches / scouts etc: · Youth Coach – Gold Badge / Natural Aptitude · Youth Scout - Gold Badge / Natural Aptitude · Top Youth Facilities My other staff include: · Myself – Attacking Coach / Gold Badge / Natural Aptitude · Defensive Coach - Gold Badge / Natural Aptitude · General Coach - Gold Badge / Natural Aptitude · Fitness Coach - Gold Badge / Natural Aptitude · First Team Scout - Gold Badge / Natural Aptitude · Another Youth scout - Gold Badge / Natural Aptitude I was wondering If the coaches and there specialisms affect the youth academy? Would having extra youth scouts help for example? Is there anything else to consider? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Marc Vaughan Posted January 6, 2020 SI Staff Share Posted January 6, 2020 Yes the coaching specialisms influence the type of players which come through so if you've a strong bias in a direction you'll find more of that type of player coming through - your setup is fairly balanced so you'll get outfield players across the spectrum I'd expect, although few keepers. Your fitness coach will help slightly with the starting physical attributes of the youth players coming in and obviously their development once they're there. Your youth coach will help slightly with the youth 'starting' point and again with their development once they're there. Outside of that obviously the youth setup you have is the largest influence on such things, all the coaches in the world won't help if your kids are training in the local Sainsbury's carpark PS - You've a very good setup generally from what I can see Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie_B_105 Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 Perfect - Thank you. Does a motivational coach have any affect on the youth academy or just the morale of the players? Does say having X2 youth coaches have any extra effect opposed to having just 1 youth coach? What would the Potential ability for players be from the youth academy: For example: 5 star Player - 180+ Potential? 4.5 Star player - 175+ potential? Is there a set potential limit for the players drawn from the academy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie_B_105 Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) When the New Crop of Youth Academy players arrive in FM23…. Had 1 youth player rated as a 5 Star potential from my youth coach.. When promoted to the first team his potential ability then becomes a 3 star… Had another youth player rated as a 3.5 Star potential from my youth coach… Who jumped nicely to a 5* when promoted to the first team. I appreciate you have a level of knowledge when promoting youngsters. First day its an “F” and gets better the longer they are in the academy. Does the initial rating (while in the youth academy) have much relevant to the potential? Ie Can you really get excited about a 5* youth pull or is the rating when promoted to the first team more accurate? Edited January 19, 2023 by jamie_B_105 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Marc Vaughan Posted January 19, 2023 SI Staff Share Posted January 19, 2023 On 06/01/2020 at 10:14, jamie_B_105 said: Perfect - Thank you. Does a motivational coach have any affect on the youth academy or just the morale of the players? Does say having X2 youth coaches have any extra effect opposed to having just 1 youth coach? What would the Potential ability for players be from the youth academy: For example: 5 star Player - 180+ Potential? 4.5 Star player - 175+ potential? Is there a set potential limit for the players drawn from the academy? The star ratings for youngsters don't work quite like that - for instance the stars shown are relative to your club, so with a near perfect setup (like you mentioned) if you're a conference club its likely nearly all your youth will be 5* but their potential may well be far below that ... however with a very large club (say Man City) a player with 150 potential might only show up as 3*. (on top of that the star judgements aren't 100% accurate and will fluctuate especially when a player is young) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie_B_105 Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 That makes sense. I’m guessing the potential ability on the coaches report once the youngster is promoted to the first team is more accurate than the initial rating (while in the youth academy) when the new crop of youth players arrive? (I.e. Can you really get excited about a 5* youth pull or is the rating when promoted to the first team more accurate if that makes sense?). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Marc Vaughan Posted January 23, 2023 SI Staff Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 hours ago, jamie_B_105 said: That makes sense. I’m guessing the potential ability on the coaches report once the youngster is promoted to the first team is more accurate than the initial rating (while in the youth academy) when the new crop of youth players arrive? (I.e. Can you really get excited about a 5* youth pull or is the rating when promoted to the first team more accurate if that makes sense?). I would personally always get excited about a 5* youth if he's been fully scouted at youth level - however do bear in mind only a percentage of kids with great potential ever fulfill it, if the player doesn't have a professional attitude and decent work-rate then that might inhibit him reaching it (or you might get lucky, time will tell) .. and a bad injury at the wrong time can see the end to anyones career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie_B_105 Posted February 5, 2023 Author Share Posted February 5, 2023 This makes sense. My Youngsters personality is “Relentlessly Ambitous” but with a 9/20 teamwork rating…. But the same time, he “Dislikes the intense work rate that his team mates expect”. Doesn’t sound like a good attitude to me? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanamaj Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Does the aptitude of coaches matter when they’ve reached the gold badge? Do scouts matter at all for your own regens? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navv Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 On 05/02/2023 at 06:54, jamie_B_105 said: This makes sense. My Youngsters personality is “Relentlessly Ambitous” but with a 9/20 teamwork rating…. But the same time, he “Dislikes the intense work rate that his team mates expect”. Doesn’t sound like a good attitude to me? I have the same questions. I often see “Dislikes the intense work rate that his team mates expect” in my youngest players. Is there a way to improve this? Any tips, Marc? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElliottMS Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 15 hours ago, Navv said: I have the same questions. I often see “Dislikes the intense work rate that his team mates expect” in my youngest players. Is there a way to improve this? Any tips, Marc? Mentoring from a hardworking older teammate can help improve this. But it's not always guaranteed. Some people are just lazier than others! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Marc Vaughan Posted February 22, 2023 SI Staff Share Posted February 22, 2023 18 hours ago, Navv said: I often see “Dislikes the intense work rate that his team mates expect” in my youngest players. Is there a way to improve this? Any tips, Marc? What elliot suggested (mentoring) and also training teamwork may help somewhat ... presuming he has a good enough attitude to want to improve .. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie_B_105 Posted September 5, 2023 Author Share Posted September 5, 2023 On 22/02/2023 at 15:03, Marc Vaughan said: What elliot suggested (mentoring) and also training teamwork may help somewhat ... presuming he has a good enough attitude to want to improve .. Interesting youngster… 5* in the youth pull. Could do with a world class CM. Assistant & stats make him ok. Good physical and teamwork… Straight into the England Squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Marc Vaughan Posted September 5, 2023 SI Staff Share Posted September 5, 2023 3 hours ago, jamie_B_105 said: Interesting youngster… 5* in the youth pull. Could do with a world class CM. Assistant & stats make him ok. Good physical and teamwork… Straight into the England Squad. Be very careful with kids - getting large contracts and success early on can cause some to lose focus and become less hard-working/professional .... mentoring and monitoring their progress is essential imho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanamaj Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 Is it always more beneficial to promote a talented player from the youth setup and keep them with your team rather than letting them remain in the youth setup until the end of the season when you have to choose who to promote? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
private pyle Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 On 08/09/2023 at 21:39, Shanamaj said: Is it always more beneficial to promote a talented player from the youth setup and keep them with your team rather than letting them remain in the youth setup until the end of the season when you have to choose who to promote? I would also like to know the answer to this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navelgazer Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 I think the answer to the above is there (like) football correct answer. I'm about 13 years in in FMM23 and it just varies in my experience, I find that more professional players tend to adapt better to first team and those that are more enigmatic and perhaps moody/ arrogant can struggle if not playing all the time and development stalls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Marc Vaughan Posted November 8, 2023 SI Staff Share Posted November 8, 2023 4 hours ago, Navelgazer said: I think the answer to the above is there (like) football correct answer. I'm about 13 years in in FMM23 and it just varies in my experience, I find that more professional players tend to adapt better to first team and those that are more enigmatic and perhaps moody/ arrogant can struggle if not playing all the time and development stalls. ^ Navelgazer has it in a nutshell - some players will get inflated ego's the earlier they make the first team and might be better left in the youth team where they might mature and improve their attitude before coming up, others who are model citizens might blossom being in a first team environment ... when and how you promote them is obviously up to you as their manager ... you might 'need' that hot young striker now, regardless of his attitude .. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiehowlett Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 It's not been mentioned, but there's also the other factor (at least in FMM23) where releasing certain players means others then have a jump in their potential. I don't know if there's a rhyme or reason to it though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jens_dewit Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 16 hours ago, jamiehowlett said: It's not been mentioned, but there's also the other factor (at least in FMM23) where releasing certain players means others then have a jump in their potential. I don't know if there's a rhyme or reason to it though! Makes sense as the star ratings are measured against players present in your club, league/country, ability of your trainers etc. If you have a 180PA player, he'll have * at your club. A 160PA player might be 'demoted' to 3* because of that. If the 180PA one leaves, the 160 one will be re-evaluated accordingly. The bump is only visual Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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