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been using this tac as Atalanta and have been dominating the entire world for 6 seasons :hammer:the only issue is that my team always draw or lose in the first match of CL whether its home or away, I can still overcome it in the second match but it still bad for my heart :kriss:

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Just the 14 games without conceding a goal with Aldershot in the National Conference 😂🙈😂🙈. Insane tactic as usual. Had to intentionally sabotage the free kick an corner instructions though as one of my centre backs is on 10 goals from 16 games 😂😂😂😂. Just switched him up with a striker for a bit of realism. 
 

when on 26 game without losing streak and only lost because I faced Everton away in the FA cup an they played a full strength team (using the updated data for up to date transfers too). 
 

cracking stuff as always. My ML/AML has 20 assists from 21 games. 
 

BTW my defenders are the worst part of my team ability wise so it’s crazy how much the tactic is still dominating. 

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On 29/09/2020 at 10:43, Loftus66 said:

Hi @middleweight165,

Truly sorry for the late reply (you know: Real life...)

But,no, that's really all there is to it. Balanced all season, and try to stick in a few Attacking Patient (about mid week), and Match Review (below the recovery slot, after matchdays).

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Hey mate, no worries thanks for the reply. See your managing Bolton, my old man is a Bolton fan so have a huge soft spot for them. I ended up going with these schedules https://www.fmscout.com/a-fm20-development-guide-and-training-schedules.html I'm really happy with them

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On 30/09/2020 at 10:30, Mattias333 said:

Just the 14 games without conceding a goal with Aldershot in the National Conference 😂🙈😂🙈. Insane tactic as usual. Had to intentionally sabotage the free kick an corner instructions though as one of my centre backs is on 10 goals from 16 games 😂😂😂😂. Just switched him up with a striker for a bit of realism. 
 

when on 26 game without losing streak and only lost because I faced Everton away in the FA cup an they played a full strength team (using the updated data for up to date transfers too). 
 

cracking stuff as always. My ML/AML has 20 assists from 21 games. 
 

BTW my defenders are the worst part of my team ability wise so it’s crazy how much the tactic is still dominating. 

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Unbelievable results. I'm managing Stockport, top of the league with one defeat but now I'm jealous :lol: Are you doing anything additionally to what TFF suggests or any changes?

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4 hours ago, middleweight165 said:

Unbelievable results. I'm managing Stockport, top of the league with one defeat but now I'm jealous :lol: Are you doing anything additionally to what TFF suggests or any changes?

Apologies for the slow reply. 
 

I am doing absolutely nothing different except intentionally sabotaging it. Otherwise my left centre back would be on more than 11 goals by Christmas 😂😂😂!!!! 
 

I’m using TFF latest recommended tactic, with the changes he recommends changing as he couldn’t be bothered to re upload it all. Otherwise I let the game flow an use the recommended shouts as an when. Assistant does team talks which often end in red negative feedback but that’s likely because my assistant is awful at this level. 
 

When I get a chance I’ll upload the table with only 8 games to go. Safe to say I’m clear at the top, smashing league win records, goals scored records etc with plenty of time left. Table is ridiculous really. Only 12 goals conceded. 1 loss (an that 1 loss was 1-0 to Stockport ironically where they scored after 1 minute with their only shot of the game!). Did lose to Everton on the FA cup but with the current data download I’m using Everton’s premier league side is slightly better than my national league Aldershot side 😂. There’s a lot of unattached released premier league talent available an I’ve gone over on wage budget to sign this see of youngsters but they are doing the business. Dion McGhee has something ridiculous like 29 assists an 14 goals from AML. My striker has 24 goals an hasnt even been first choice all the season. 

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On 30/09/2020 at 09:30, Mattias333 said:

Just the 14 games without conceding a goal with Aldershot in the National Conference 😂🙈😂🙈. Insane tactic as usual. Had to intentionally sabotage the free kick an corner instructions though as one of my centre backs is on 10 goals from 16 games 😂😂😂😂. Just switched him up with a striker for a bit of realism. 
 

when on 26 game without losing streak and only lost because I faced Everton away in the FA cup an they played a full strength team (using the updated data for up to date transfers too). 
 

cracking stuff as always. My ML/AML has 20 assists from 21 games. 
 

BTW my defenders are the worst part of my team ability wise so it’s crazy how much the tactic is still dominating. 

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Which tactic is it mate?

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23 hours ago, middleweight165 said:

Hey mate, no worries thanks for the reply. See your managing Bolton, my old man is a Bolton fan so have a huge soft spot for them. I ended up going with these schedules https://www.fmscout.com/a-fm20-development-guide-and-training-schedules.html I'm really happy with them

Well, here's a pick that'll cheer your old man up @middleweight165

BTW: How is your current training setup when it comes to player injuries? I get more than I need with my (recommended, I know) set up.

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20 hours ago, Mattias333 said:

Apologies for the slow reply. 
 

I am doing absolutely nothing different except intentionally sabotaging it. Otherwise my left centre back would be on more than 11 goals by Christmas 😂😂😂!!!! 
 

I’m using TFF latest recommended tactic, with the changes he recommends changing as he couldn’t be bothered to re upload it all. Otherwise I let the game flow an use the recommended shouts as an when. Assistant does team talks which often end in red negative feedback but that’s likely because my assistant is awful at this level. 
 

When I get a chance I’ll upload the table with only 8 games to go. Safe to say I’m clear at the top, smashing league win records, goals scored records etc with plenty of time left. Table is ridiculous really. Only 12 goals conceded. 1 loss (an that 1 loss was 1-0 to Stockport ironically where they scored after 1 minute with their only shot of the game!). Did lose to Everton on the FA cup but with the current data download I’m using Everton’s premier league side is slightly better than my national league Aldershot side 😂. There’s a lot of unattached released premier league talent available an I’ve gone over on wage budget to sign this see of youngsters but they are doing the business. Dion McGhee has something ridiculous like 29 assists an 14 goals from AML. My striker has 24 goals an hasnt even been first choice all the season. 

This was my final table. Whats the plan with your save?  Aldershot to the premier league?

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19 hours ago, Loftus66 said:

Well, here's a pick that'll cheer your old man up @middleweight165

BTW: How is your current training setup when it comes to player injuries? I get more than I need with my (recommended, I know) set up.

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Nice to see that compared to the current grim reality :lol: I'm not having any major injury issues, but I'm coming from FM19 where I think injuries were overly unrealistic so I dont know how this compares with other FM20 schedules

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Incredible tactic. I started without a job and Levante signed me. Last with only 1 point in 8 games. I finished in 2nd position and winning the Copa del Rey

 

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On 03/10/2020 at 14:51, middleweight165 said:

This was my final table. Whats the plan with your save?  Aldershot to the premier league?

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Again sorry for the slow reply. Finally finish my first season. Easily dominated with this tactic. Scared to think how awesome it been if I didn’t sabotage my defenders to stop them scoring a goal every game lol!!!

 

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On 05/10/2020 at 00:06, nen said:

Incredible tactic. I started without a job and Levante signed me. Last with only 1 point in 8 games. I finished in 2nd position and winning the Copa del Rey

 

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what tactic did you use and can you show your team (your start eleven) . 

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4 hours ago, lol33 said:

what tactic did you use and can you show your team (your start eleven) . 

Cerber v4. I never really play with the same players, except in finals. I rotate all the games. 3 changes away  and 4 at home. Roger also went to Newcastle in winter

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The truth is that I don't know what to say. I have lost the League by myself but this tactic is incredible. He ganado en el Camp Nou, Bernabeu, Ettihad... Al PSG rn casa. 5-0 al Barcelona en casa, 3-0 al Madrid en casa... Resultados increíble, pero al final dos empates que me costaron la Liga. Only 19 goals conceded in the league. Again I have reached the final of the Copa del Rey, losing in extra time, in minute 120. Look that I have tried tactics since I played FM, without a doubt this is the best. Defensively it's amazing

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7 hours ago, nen said:

The truth is that I don't know what to say. I have lost the League by myself but this tactic is incredible. He ganado en el Camp Nou, Bernabeu, Ettihad... Al PSG rn casa. 5-0 al Barcelona en casa, 3-0 al Madrid en casa... Resultados increíble, pero al final dos empates que me costaron la Liga. Only 19 goals conceded in the league. Again I have reached the final of the Copa del Rey, losing in extra time, in minute 120. Look that I have tried tactics since I played FM, without a doubt this is the best. Defensively it's amazing

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@nenWhich tactic you use? v4 or v5?

Que tactica utilisas? la v4 o la v5?

Saludos

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19 hours ago, w202 said:

@nenWhich tactic you use? v4 or v5?

Que tactica utilisas? la v4 o la v5?

Saludos

None anymore, because I got pissed off. I conceded 19 goals in the second season and at the start of the third season, I have conceded 10 goals in 6 games. Why do this? It is not the first time this has happened to me this year and with various tactics

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On 08/10/2020 at 17:29, nen said:

I conceded 19 goals in the second season and at the start of the third season, I have conceded 10 goals in 6 games. Why do this? It is not the first time this has happened to me this year and with various tactics

I assume that you bought new players between season or your current ones lost tactics familiarity. At the beginning of the season you need adjust your tactics to be more cautious. In the same time push a lot of effort in tactics training.

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Been loving Cerber v5 for quite sometime but I can often dominate for long periods and then randomly trip up against bigger teams mainly away from from home.

What changes (if any) do people make when they come up against bigger sides? 

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10 hours ago, davecrossley said:

Been loving Cerber v5 for quite sometime but I can often dominate for long periods and then randomly trip up against bigger teams mainly away from from home.

What changes (if any) do people make when they come up against bigger sides? 

 

Hi mate,

When I use Cerber tactic and face equal opponents then  Won %   |   Drawn %   | Lost %   stats look like this:

 

Home matches:

81% Won   |   12% Drawn  |    7%  Lost

 

Away matches:

51% Won   |   19%  Drawn  |    30%  Lost

 

 

As you can see the away stats are significantly worse than the home stats and even vs an equal opponents there's only 51% chances to get a win and that's because in the game the home side always gets some hidden / under the hood boost, it was made to simulate what we usually see in real life because in real life teams tend to play better home than away.

 

I must add that the Cerber tactic gives me the best away results even they are worse than the home results and If you want improve the away result then I find the only way to do that is:

1) Having better players than your opposition.

2) Havning better Morale than your opposition.

3) Havning better Conditions than your opposition.

4) Havning better "Team Cohesion" than your opposition.

5) Having the maximised "Tactic Familiarity".

 

It's important to understand that tactics have thier limitis what they can offer you and it would be wrong to think that there are some "magic" tweak that give you 100% in rate in away or home matches.

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23 minutos atrás, Totalfootballfan disse:

 

Hi mate,

When I use Cerber tactic and face equal opponents then  Won %   |   Drawn %   | Lost %   stats look like this:

 

Home matches:

81% Won   |   12% Drawn  |    7%  Lost

 

Away matches:

51% Won   |   19%  Drawn  |    30%  Lost

 

 

As you can see the away stats are significantly worse than the home stats and even vs an equal opponents there's only 51% chances to get a win and that's because in the game the home side always gets some hidden / under the hood boost, it was made to simulate what we usually see in real life because in real life teams tend to play better home than away.

 

I must add that the Cerber tactic gives me the best away results even they are worse than the home results and If you want improve the away result then I find the only way to do that is:

1) Having better players than your opposition.

2) Havning better Morale than your opposition.

3) Havning better Conditions than your opposition.

4) Havning better "Team Cohesion" than your opposition.

5) Having the maximised "Tactic Familiarity".

 

It's important to understand that tactics have thier limitis what they can offer you and I'd would be wrong to think that there are some "magic" tweak that give you 100% in rate in away or home matches.

Hi @Totalfootballfan,

If the test were run with Fighter V2, what would these statistics look like? Do you have the numbers?

Thanks!

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9 hours ago, Totalfootballfan said:

 

Hi mate,

When I use Cerber tactic and face equal opponents then  Won %   |   Drawn %   | Lost %   stats look like this:

 

Home matches:

81% Won   |   12% Drawn  |    7%  Lost

 

Away matches:

51% Won   |   19%  Drawn  |    30%  Lost

 

 

As you can see the away stats are significantly worse than the home stats and even vs an equal opponents there's only 51% chances to get a win and that's because in the game the home side always gets some hidden / under the hood boost, it was made to simulate what we usually see in real life because in real life teams tend to play better home than away.

 

I must add that the Cerber tactic gives me the best away results even they are worse than the home results and If you want improve the away result then I find the only way to do that is:

1) Having better players than your opposition.

2) Havning better Morale than your opposition.

3) Havning better Conditions than your opposition.

4) Havning better "Team Cohesion" than your opposition.

5) Having the maximised "Tactic Familiarity".

 

It's important to understand that tactics have thier limitis what they can offer you and it would be wrong to think that there are some "magic" tweak that give you 100% in rate in away or home matches.

Hey man,

Been playing CM/FM for 20+years and never expect to have a tactic developed that will win 100% of games.

Great advice about standard of players, morale, conditioning, team cohesion as well as familiarity.

Just going to keep going with it and hopefully with those built up, I will experience better performances away from home.

Looking forward to seeing what you come up with when FM21 is released!

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51 minutes ago, davecrossley said:

Been playing CM/FM for 20+years and never expect to have a tactic developed that will win 100% of games.

Heh... my bad, mate... I intentionally exaggerated things just to make it as clear as possible that there's no tactic that gives you 100% win rate with any team in any situation because I often see that when people lose in FM then they immediately start to blame their tactics and look for an advice how to tweak them to stop losing and start winning but ofter their tactics are OK, of course, they might be not the most effictive tactic that you can get but often they are OK and even if they used the most effective tactic then they would not do significantly better than they did... It's important to understand that tactics are just a small part of the game and they are limited what they can offer you, of course, if there aren't any obvious nasty exploits and even with the most effective tactic when you face an equal opponet in an away match there's about only about a 50% chance to win... and if you want to increase the winning chance then you should think about other things that I mentioned in my previous post because as I said tactics are limited what they can do.

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En 12/10/2020 a las 8:55, prysiu dijo:

I assume that you bought new players between season or your current ones lost tactics familiarity. At the beginning of the season you need adjust your tactics to be more cautious. In the same time push a lot of effort in tactics training.

Of course I have bought players: Camavinga and Foden among others. I have improved the defense and the goalkeeper. I caught the team in a very bad situation and the tactic worked perfectly. I don't think it's from the familiarity of the tactic. First season good, second season very good. 2nd to 3 points from the first and 1/8 of the final of the Champions League. And in the third season, the tactic begins to not work. 20-25 shots by 2 of the rival and they score 2 goals and I none. These are details that have happened to me with other tactics, not only with this

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After stopping fm for awhile, i decided to try Cerber with this team, relegated in real life and BOMB! first season in fm20. 
People said there's not one tactic which guarantee success, but this is guarantee success, not exaggerated at all. The best for me. 

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Switching between Cerber and ShieldWall in matches. Don't think it could get any better. 
Looking forward to another awesome TFF tactic in fm21. 

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I tried many tactics but in the end i come always back to using the cerber one. I hope in fm21 the tactics work better again, but fm21 is probably only a roster update and the rest is the same as fm20.

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Hi,

I started play with Dynamo Dresden. Tactics Cerber v5. Page 77

  • first season with data update(for 20/21) started in 3 Liga, postpone (33wins 5 draws 0 loss)
  • second season 2 liga (28 wins 8draws 2 loss)
  • bundesliga for 5 years first 11 place(same squad like in 3 liga!!!) then 9place and then 1st, 3rd and again winners.
  • my last season Champion league winners
  • !My squad is poor avrage(no budget) you can look on my screen

This tactics is brilliant. Thank's TFF for your work

My advice:

  • training schedule:https://www.fmscout.com/a-fm20-development-guide-and-training-schedules.html
  • for team talks use assistant manager with high mottivation, level of discipline, determination attributes(every team talk for him)
  • when you score a goal use shout Praise
  • THROW - IN DL take left DR take right(long throws attribut)
  • Corners Left ML Right MR
  • Every look on fittness and match practice attribut for fittness 90% and more. Match practice 80% and more but in Germany it is difficult second teams I don't understand
  • !Keep your dynamics in green mode!Players are happy, team cohesion etc... look on my pictures

This year(FM20) it is not to much difficult to win Champions League with this tactics(strange)...

That's it...

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On 15/10/2020 at 05:03, HeavyPunch said:

After stopping fm for awhile, i decided to try Cerber with this team, relegated in real life and BOMB! first season in fm20. 
People said there's not one tactic which guarantee success, but this is guarantee success, not exaggerated at all. The best for me. 

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Switching between Cerber and ShieldWall in matches. Don't think it could get any better. 
Looking forward to another awesome TFF tactic in fm21. 

 

which skin is this please? reminds me of an older version of fm

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@parano1c I removed your comment because such kind of conversation has no place on the forums. Either post constructive comments or do not post at all. 

Take this as an unofficial warning, because next time it could easily become official.

Thank you!

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On 19/10/2020 at 15:03, Loftus66 said:

Hi all,

Do you usually change the mentality to cautios after the first or a few seasons?
I'm with Villa fourth season (and haven't). Can't get a win from anywhere.

i never chnaged anything. won PL and CL in 3rd season, and almost everything in 4th season with Leicester.

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Just now, fmjonek said:

i never chnaged anything. won PL and CL in 3rd season, and almost everything in 4th season with Leicester.

OK, thanx @fmjonek

Might be my training methods, getting tons of injuries though I stick to Balanced all season an my coaches and physios are OK...? Can't seem to figure it out.

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1 hour ago, Augusto_Sousa said:

Hi 

i have a problem with cleber tactic ,my GR goes often to middlefield ...

does anyone have the same problem ??

thanks

By "GR" do you mean the goalie?

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Am 16.10.2020 um 07:03 schrieb deded:

Hi,

I started play with Dynamo Dresden. Tactics Cerber v5. Page 77

  • first season with data update(for 20/21) started in 3 Liga, postpone (33wins 5 draws 0 loss)
  • second season 2 liga (28 wins 8draws 2 loss)
  • bundesliga for 5 years first 11 place(same squad like in 3 liga!!!) then 9place and then 1st, 3rd and again winners.
  • my last season Champion league winners
  • !My squad is poor avrage(no budget) you can look on my screen

This tactics is brilliant. Thank's TTF for your work

My advice:

  • training schedule:https://www.fmscout.com/a-fm20-development-guide-and-training-schedules.html
  • for team talks use assistant manager with high mottivation, level of discipline, determination attributes(every team talk for him)
  • when you score a goal use shout Praise
  • THROW - IN DL take left DR take right(long throws attribut)
  • Corners Left ML Right MR
  • Every look on fittness and match practice attribut for fittness 90% and more. Match practice 80% and more but in Germany it is difficult second teams I don't understand
  • !Keep your dynamics in green mode!Players are happy, team cohesion etc... look on my pictures

This year(FM20) it is not to much difficult to win Champions League with this tactics(strange)...

That's it...

 

 

 

 

 

 

Man i love Batista-Meier somehow....idk, he always fits in my team. I`m a fanboy for sure.
Nice, congratz bro. It`s sad that Dynamo is one leage down, i wish this club the best.

Stay safe, have a nice weekend@all.

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59 minutes ago, kidmiz said:

Hi @Totalfootballfan,

If playing  in lower leagues such us vanarama leagues, and we want to use filters. Shouldn't we use the minus button to reduce all attribute instead of reducing matching condition ??

 

 

 

Hey mate,

Simply reducing all attributes by 1 point won't work because it's much more complicated that that. Somewhere in this thread must be my detailed explanation of how to deal with attributes, try searching for it.

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23 hours ago, kidmiz said:

Hi @Totalfootballfan,

If playing  in lower leagues such us vanarama leagues, and we want to use filters. Shouldn't we use the minus button to reduce all attribute instead of reducing matching condition ??

 

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Also really interested in this. Going to have a good search through the thread when I get back from work, so i'll report back what I find ;)

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On 23/10/2020 at 04:42, Nebuuu said:

Man i love Batista-Meier somehow....idk, he always fits in my team. I`m a fanboy for sure.
Nice, congratz bro. It`s sad that Dynamo is one leage down, i wish this club the best.

Stay safe, have a nice weekend@all.

Just out of curiosity @Nebuuu: You're playing Batista Meier as a MR, right?

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@wixta79 The only thing I've seen on here is that it's just the the way it is, but that the results are great. Experienced that as well for 3 seasons, but after a mediocre 4th I'm naturally starting to question if the WB's could be to blame. Partially at least. A fix for it? Sorry to say I have none, but I'll allert you if I find one.

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18 hours ago, wixta79 said:

really struggle to get any good ratings from wing backs?

I think TFF addressed this earlier in the thread. I believe he said the engine doesn't rate the work the the WB does as important so gives the players a lower rating, although in TFFs system it is important, so not to worry about ratings

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On 23/10/2020 at 09:47, kidmiz said:

Hi @Totalfootballfan,

If playing  in lower leagues such us vanarama leagues, and we want to use filters. Shouldn't we use the minus button to reduce all attribute instead of reducing matching condition ??

 

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Hey mate, I'm about half way through the thread. This is where @Totalfootballfan discusses attributes  https://community.sigames.com/topic/507817-fm20-tactics-by-tff/page/48/?tab=comments#comment-12319696

@Totalfootballfan I think this is the most interesting information in the whole thread. I have a question, how do you prioritize one attribute over the other?

 

 

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49 minutes ago, middleweight165 said:

Hey mate, I'm about half way through the thread. This is where @Totalfootballfan discusses attributes  https://community.sigames.com/topic/507817-fm20-tactics-by-tff/page/48/?tab=comments#comment-12319696

@Totalfootballfan I think this is the most interesting information in the whole thread. I have a question, how do you prioritize one attribute over the other?

 

 

Hey mate,

Your question was also answered in details somewhere in the thread.

In short, let's say you want to buy a central defender for your team so what qualities you may want to see in a central defender:

1) Strength 

2) Quickness

3) Jumping Reach

4) Good passing skill

5) Good technique

But let's assume that your budget only allows you to get 3 of the 5 qualities so it would be logical to choose "Strength", "Quickness", "Jumping Reach" and drop "Good passing skill",  "Good technique" because the first three qualities are crucial for a central defender and a central defender can still do well without having "Good passing skill" and "Good technique"

It's beneficial when a player has as many qualities as possible but often you can't have all the useful qualities so you have to choose.

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1 hour ago, Totalfootballfan said:

Hey mate,

Your question was also answered in details somewhere in the thread.

In short, let's say you want to buy a central defender for your team so what qualities you may want to see in a central defender:

1) Strength 

2) Quickness

3) Jumping Reach

4) Good passing skill

5) Good technique

But let's assume that your budget only allows you to get 3 of the 5 qualities so it would be logical to choose "Strength", "Quickness", "Jumping Reach" and drop "Good passing skill",  "Good technique" because the first three qualities are crucial for a central defender and a central defender can still do well without having "Good passing skill" and "Good technique"

It's beneficial when a player has as many qualities as possible but often you can't have all the useful qualities so you have to choose.

@Totalfootballfan Absolutely, I understand this. It's the closer attributes that are more difficult to separate I was asking about. Of course it's easy to separate defensive skills from technical skills for a defender, but what about the scenario where you have player A and B who's attributes are all 14 except, player A has 15 in Technique, where B has 15 in First Touch. How do you prioritize the 'grey area' attributes?

 

I guess being able to prioritize different attributes requires intimate knowledge of the game, something I don't have. Is there a way a more novice player like myself can close the knowledge gap?

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35 minutes ago, middleweight165 said:

@Totalfootballfan Absolutely, I understand this. It's the closer attributes that are more difficult to separate I was asking about. Of course it's easy to separate defensive skills from technical skills for a defender, but what about the scenario where you have player A and B who's attributes are all 14 except, player A has 15 in Technique, where B has 15 in First Touch. How do you prioritize the 'grey area' attributes?

 

I guess being able to prioritize different attributes requires intimate knowledge of the game, something I don't have. Is there a way a more novice player like myself can close the knowledge gap?

I'd say most time when the choice isn't obvious then you shouldn't worry too much about making a mistake when picking a player because there won't be any significant difference between your choices.  So let's say if one player has "14 First Touch" / "15 Technique"  and other player has "15 First Touch" / "14 Technique" and all their other attributes are equal then I'd say such players are equal. I'd suggest not puzzel over what's better +1 Decision or +1 Teqchinieq because as I said when it's the only differece then it's almost nothing.

 

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