Popular Post keysi Posted November 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2019 The original post is from fmrensie.net. The fact there are many issues within set pieces in the Football Manager for consecutive years, can’t stop me to create something I enjoy watching. And it’s also effective. This time, it’s the Near Post Corner Kick Routine. I used the 3-5-2 formation during my FM20 Beta version saves with Augsburg and Reading. And I wanted to take advantage of three central defenders. That’s why all of them are here in the three most key roles. Lurk at Near Post, Attack Near Post and Go Forward. When you hit the jackpot I’m sure all of us know that feeling when you are trying to create and develop something within this game. Your own formation or playing style, some training schedules or individual training system. And we all know that feeling when you are able to say “Yes, it works, that’s beautiful.“ I have to say I enjoy this feeling the most within set pieces. It was the same in FM20 with this routine. My most favourite routine in FM19 was with 6 Yard Box delivery. So I tried it in FM20 again. I also tried the Far Post routine delivery as it’s very successful in the third FM edition in a row, not only corners but also free kicks. But I wanted to create something I know it’s not overpowered or exploited. And when my central defender Matt Miazga (during the one season-long save with Reading) scored 4 goals in 5 matches and won player of the month award, I knew I created something very good. At the end of the season, this American central defender had 12 goals and 10 of them were from this routine. And he was the third best goalscorer of the team, just straight behind both main strikers. Key attributes + check player roles because of bug My aim is not to score goals from corners every match. My aim is not to cheat this game because I know how to do it within set pieces and the bugs in the game. Your set pieces routines can reset time from time due to bugs in the game. Your taker can be moved to a different role because you rotated squad or your main taker was drunk and he couldn’t play. Your routines can be changed despite you did nothing except the changes in the line-up because “it’s in the game”. I was the same as most of the others in the past – I created the routine, I selected the taker(s) and that’s it. The more and more I play this game and there are less and fewer improvements within set piece creator I rather check routines before every game. Same as if taker(s) are right. Because I will rather have my own corner set-up with takers I want than to let the game exploit it because of the wrong positioning of some players and the inability of the opponent to defend my players. You can spot the obvious bug when you, for example, rotate the squad, your main taker is out of the line-up and the slot for the taker is empty in the set-piece creator. It was MC for example. But in the same time, the MC player in the rotated squad is at the half-line and he still is tick as “TK” but without specific instructions. This leads to the situtation when a random player takes the corner delivery and the player with “TK” is unmarked and he can do what he wants. It was reported many times on SI Forum, same as other bugs within set pieces, but it wasn’t fixed so far. You can take it as your advantage but I don’t want. I will rather check it before every match and set it up for every match. Same as my main priority for every set piece routine will always be to select the right players for the right roles. Near Post Flick On It was renamed but the thinking behind the role is the same. The former Near Post Flick On role is now Lurk at Near Post. The positioning is the same as before the rename and players act the same as well so the rename is the only change. The main aim is the same as with the goals above – to aim cross at the near post but the main change is that player in the Attack Near Post doesn’t attack the ball as the player with Lurk at Near Post is more active and trying to chase the ball. He has two options – he can flick on the ball to someone other or he can finish it by himself. In this case, he perfectly found Munteanu at far post and our striker scored. And that’s why to use Attack Far Post role despite your corner delivery is to the near post. Outswinging vs. Inswinging delivery I tried to test what it is more effective and what is more useful from the left or the right side of the pitch but as it stands I can only say it’s more or less a coincidence and in my eyes, it doesn’t matter if your delivery aim is outswinging or inswinging. I spotted maybe only one thing – if the corner delivery is outswinging there is a bigger chance player with Attack Near Post will hit the ball. But that could be only a coincidence as I said because I had no corner delivery experts in these two saves. None of the players had Corners attribute higher than 13 but the routine worked very well in overall. There are some goals with this, enjoy… 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginola1 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Hi Keysi, as usually thank for your post 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter T Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Thanks for this! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
red whip Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) I like to study at the standards. Yes, in the FM20 there seems to be an advantage in slamming the corners on the short post. Edited December 3, 2019 by red whip Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysi Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 Tin Jedvaj in Augsburg vs. Düsseldorf on Tuesday, December, 2019 and Tin Jedvaj in my FM20 beta save with Augsburg and this routine 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripoligate4 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 i subbed but it never delivered to me, any instructions how to find it or something? or how will be effecient to work? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysi Posted December 28, 2019 Author Share Posted December 28, 2019 9 hours ago, tripoligate4 said: i subbed but it never delivered to me, any instructions how to find it or something? or how will be effecient to work? If you subbed to Steam Workshop item, you have to import/load routine in the set pieces creator. Absolutely the same as if you would like to load your own saved routine. But most importantly, you have everything about the routine in the opening post including the picture with the set-up so you can make that routine by your own within 20 seconds... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean0987654321 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 On 27/12/2019 at 14:27, tripoligate4 said: i subbed but it never delivered to me, any instructions how to find it or something? or how will be effecient to work? You can set it up manually. That's what I did with a few tweaks to the tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripoligate4 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 On 29/12/2019 at 08:25, Jean0987654321 said: You can set it up manually. That's what I did with a few tweaks to the tactic What tweaks mate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean0987654321 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 2 hours ago, tripoligate4 said: What tweaks mate? Instead of having 4 players stay back, I set all 4 of them to stay back if needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke313 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Will this work for a 4-4-2? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean0987654321 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 9 hours ago, Duke313 said: Will this work for a 4-4-2? It should. It's a corner tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanziZoloman Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) Hey Keysi your corners helped my side well during a hard time with missing big chances! "Luckily" the short post corners went in like some Tin Jedvaj guy But seems like you need to train it in training too before it works complety Edited January 4, 2020 by HanziZoloman 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyh Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I tried this as well as other peoples and my own made corner routines trained the f for set pieces had people with all the right stats and still I am scoring very few set pieces, I am to the point now its not worth the effort to go through the calendar sorting my training out for it. Same with lofted crosses for a targetman they just dont seem to be working as i used to be able to get them which is a shame as i love a beast in the air. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanziZoloman Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I don’t know if a TM is actually a beast in the air and more a tank who is holding the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyh Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 37 minutes ago, HanziZoloman said: I don’t know if a TM is actually a beast in the air and more a tank who is holding the ball. In previous versions ive had 30 plus headed goals from my targetman on multiple seasons, so for me that is a beast in the air. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanziZoloman Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 That’s kind of monster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysi Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 15 hours ago, Coyh said: I tried this as well as other peoples and my own made corner routines trained the f for set pieces had people with all the right stats and still I am scoring very few set pieces, I am to the point now its not worth the effort to go through the calendar sorting my training out for it. Same with lofted crosses for a targetman they just dont seem to be working as i used to be able to get them which is a shame as i love a beast in the air. you can always creat schedule(s) for training and just load them to the calendar, there is no need to sort out the training every week. I, for example, have several different schedules like "one match per week", "Tuesday/Saturday matches" etc. On 04/01/2020 at 08:42, HanziZoloman said: Hey Keysi your corners helped my side well during a hard time with missing big chances! "Luckily" the short post corners went in like some Tin Jedvaj guy But seems like you need to train it in training too before it works complety I like to have Set Pieces Delivery training at least once per week. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanziZoloman Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Cool that’s a little more than me, will try it out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanziZoloman Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Cool that’s a little more than me, will try it out. from the look I had on it I sometimes switch Lnp to Lfp that on near post is more space to place a good header. Any experience with that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysi Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 I didn't have players as Lurk at Near/Far post and also Attack Near/Far Post but it's worth a try for sure. It's only game, the testing is the best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanziZoloman Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 the beauty of the game! great! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyh Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 13 hours ago, keysi said: you can always creat schedule(s) for training and just load them to the calendar, there is no need to sort out the training every week. I, for example, have several different schedules like "one match per week", "Tuesday/Saturday matches" etc. I like to have Set Pieces Delivery training at least once per week. I never new that! bloody hell i have been doing each week individually. Cheers mate. Out of interest how many goals a season are you getting from corners?. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysi Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 On 06/01/2020 at 21:52, Coyh said: I never new that! bloody hell i have been doing each week individually. Cheers mate. Out of interest how many goals a season are you getting from corners?. It depends on team and players. I think it was between 10-20 per season during saves in English Championship when there are many games. But as I wrote in the opening post, only with Reading in FM20, Miazga scored 10 just by himself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
holidaysong Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Good news that this routine still works perfectly in FM21. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysi Posted November 17, 2020 Author Share Posted November 17, 2020 10 hours ago, holidaysong said: Good news that this routine still works perfectly in FM21. No surprise as the set pieces are absolutely the same... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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