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i mean....wow!! this tactic even more impressive! this is my set up. signed Djikia, a fast CB (his stats are there). BIG TIP, go to team comparision page. check the avg speed and agility of midfielders and attackers, and sign CBs that matches that (screenshot below). schedule i use is also there

all my CMS are trained as ball winning midfielders...wingers are trained as defensive wingers....All CMS, i moved into the defensive unit...screenshots below again

@andysafc i hope you don't mind all of this on your page? lol

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23 minutes ago, RM2000 said:

How do you check which team would fit this tactic before starting a game ?

I think this tactic is suited to most teams, it is up to some people to try and get the most out of it by making small adjustments.

Working fine for me just now but i expect to make changes when i get promoted. Not so much to the tactic but to the players i bring in.

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22 minutes ago, RDF Tactics said:

am i in dreamland or what???!! :lol: this game has done everything, injured half my key players, but still keep grinding results out. Schemiechel, Chillwell, Vardy, Maddison, Ndidi, Tielemans have all been injured (not at once of course) Johnny Evans is out for 6 months

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Great work RDF.  And yes I think currently the only solution to balls over the top is fast CBs so that's for the recommendation. I have a few question if you don't mind:

1. what is the thinking re training all CMS as ball winning midfielders, rather than training them for their actual role? Same question re wingers.

2. what is the thinking re CMS into defensive unit?

3. re the training schedule - is that your own custom schedule or the normal gegen press template you've selected or do you just leave to your assistance manager?  What happens when you have two matches in a week?

4. do you think all the injuries are due to the training schedule intensity?

5. are you still alternating between the home and away tactic? The away tactic is much less intensive according to the intensity indicator.

6. do you try and play normal wingers on each wing where possible i.e. left foot on left and right foot on right?

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15 minutes ago, Law_Man said:

Great work RDF.  And yes I think currently the only solution to balls over the top is fast CBs so that's for the recommendation. I have a few question if you don't mind:

1. what is the thinking re training all CMS as ball winning midfielders, rather than training them for their actual role? Same question re wingers.

2. what is the thinking re CMS into defensive unit?

3. re the training schedule - is that your own custom schedule or the normal gegen press template you've selected or do you just leave to your assistance manager?  What happens when you have two matches in a week?

4. do you think all the injuries are due to the training schedule intensity?

5. are you still alternating between the home and away tactic? The away tactic is much less intensive according to the intensity indicator.

6. do you try and play normal wingers on each wing where possible i.e. left foot on left and right foot on right?

1. the thinking behind it is the tactic. there's a lot of pressing and your midfield does a lot of it. ball winning mids and defensive wingers, one of their man jobs is to win the ball back quickly (so is the tactics) so i get them training that as a priority. other attributes will rise with game time as you can see here. the main stats i want to see improve are improving

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2. again, they need to do a lot of defensive work, things like defensive engagement in training, only the defensive unit work on that whilst the attacking unit only tries to attack against the defensive unit. your CMs will be doing a lot of engagement work on the pitch.

3. i've created that using the gegen press template

4. it could be, or it could be typical FM. but if it is training, that'll be a reason to have a big squad. 

5. i only use the away tactic, away against the top 6 teams. Leicester are predicted to finished 8th, so i can afford to use the home tactic everywhere else. 

6. well, on the left wing i play Maddison, who is right footed, but has a fairly strong foot. i recommend at least one of your wingers are similar to him. he's a playmaker type but very good at dribbling, specially because he's both footed...on the right wing, i rotate between Gray and Albrighton..i play Gray against teams who will defend against me, i need his pace and flair. i play Albrighton against teams who will have the ball a lot, he has very high work rate and teamwork

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WON THE LEAGUE WITH LEICESTER 1ST SEASON!!!! WOW @andysafc well done man! insane tactic (if used correctly). best save so far on FM20, and i continue to carry on to see how far i can really go....i'm shocked though, can't believe 1st season

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the 5-1 loss against United, really gave me a scare haha, though it would damage players morale for last match

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Good evening guys.

I wanna thank andy for this tactic, even when i just start to play this tactic.
Also RDF, whose tactic i used (until now ^^) from FM-Base Forum.
Thanks to those who help players like me and create tactics, communicate and give this game a life.

Enjoy the sunday, god bless. :)

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7 hours ago, Nebuuu said:

Good evening guys.

I wanna thank andy for this tactic, even when i just start to play this tactic.
Also RDF, whose tactic i used (until now ^^) from FM-Base Forum.
Thanks to those who help players like me and create tactics, communicate and give this game a life.

Enjoy the sunday, god bless. :)

Thank you

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6 hours ago, RM2000 said:

Running very well until now, nice chances and Strikers are scoring ! I use the tactics posted by andysafc Home and Away.

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Good to see it is working in different situations. Well done guys. 

The real success is not the tactic but how that manager implements it. I think it is a good base tactic and if you Manage it well by the players you use or if like RDF and get deeper by taking more control then well done. I am happy to see.

 

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1 hour ago, andysafc said:

Good to see it is working in different situations. Well done guys. 

The real success is not the tactic but how that manager implements it. I think it is a good base tactic and if you Manage it well by the players you use or if like RDF and get deeper by taking more control then well done. I am happy to see.

 

very true...the tactic is a very solid template for people...i think thats how downloadable tactics will work this year, unless you have a team full of great players, it'll take some management to get the best out of it...

im starting my 2nd season, made a few signings as my back up players struggled a lot...will post signings and stuff a bit later

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Just now, RDF Tactics said:

very true...the tactic is a very solid template for people...i think thats how downloadable tactics will work this year, unless you have a team full of great players, it'll take some management to get the best out of it...

im starting my 2nd season, made a few signings as my back up players struggled a lot...will post signings and stuff a bit later

Never done a second season on FM 2020 yet but my concern will be re ranking. Teams are going to approach you differently. In 2019 i reversed the tactics. Played the Away one when i was at home etc. Does not make sense to play defensive... but it worked.

 

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21 minutes ago, andysafc said:

Never done a second season on FM 2020 yet but my concern will be re ranking. Teams are going to approach you differently. In 2019 i reversed the tactics. Played the Away one when i was at home etc. Does not make sense to play defensive... but it worked.

 

i've done 2nd season once or twice..with Arsenal (team i support) as my very first save. With Arsenal, i don't think i had the problem of teams approaching me differently, it was more investment issues...LFC and City always signed big players and spent a lot of money, i like to find bargains and my bargain signings wasn't good enough, LFC and City dominated. i actually finished with more points, but finished 2nd and 3rd after the 1st season finishing 1st lol...but LFC and City finished on like 103points, i can't compete with that

this file, i've spent a bit more, but actually invested more, i've been very specific in who i sign too! i signed Haaland but i really didn't want to, as he's popular with the FM community and i like finding players with lower reputation but Vardy is on his last legs and i couldn't find a good enough replacement for a good price

the quality of players (apart from Munteanu and Stergiou) are way better than the ones sold, but yet, i received 115mil and spent 93mil...but i haven't finished spending, need a CM and LB

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just about to kick off the new season...these are my signings i made for the new season, each signing has specific stats...i used the rule i made for myself a few posts back...i look and compared average attributes in the league....Robertone, my most impressive and looking forward to seeing him play. Cost me 5.25mil and his value went straight to 26mil...as you can see through his stats, it suits my tactic....he has good positioning, work rate, speed, agility, anticipation, teamwork, decisions...all these attributes match or are higher than the leagues average for CM

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this is my shortlists...some i will be looking to sign next summer..but again, all their attributes match the league average

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Sorry basic questions am still getting to grips with the transition from fm 2012 to fm 2020:

1. how do I save player filters in the search? For example, once I've done a search for a DC with my required attributes I then used to be able to save that as a filter called DC and then just click on that in future rather than having to do it again. I can't see that this year, only the import/export feature, which when I used didn't work properly.

2. did the club automatically increase the scouting package to World? Or if not how did you do it?

Thanks

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1 hour ago, RDF Tactics said:

just about to kick off the new season...these are my signings i made for the new season, each signing has specific stats...i used the rule i made for myself a few posts back...i look and compared average attributes in the league....Robertone, my most impressive and looking forward to seeing him play. Cost me 5.25mil and his value went straight to 26mil...as you can see through his stats, it suits my tactic....he has good positioning, work rate, speed, agility, anticipation, teamwork, decisions...all these attributes match or are higher than the leagues average for CM

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this is my shortlists...some i will be looking to sign next summer..but again, all their attributes match the league average

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Keep us updated!

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10 minutes ago, andysafc said:

I find the menus not so easy even when you know what you are looking for.

In my experience the scouting package has never increased automatically, you have to select it. But you start at a level dependant on your club's level.

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yes I got to this screen and it suggest that as long as you have the money for the high level packages you can click on them to select them but when I do nothing happens. Have you tried on yours?

Also how do I save player filters?

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Its not going bad at all! I'm 3rd but only two points off top. i've lost two games, to Utd and LFC so no shame in that, but won every other game. doing well in CL at the moment too. New signings settling in nicely

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and for easy home games, i made this little tweak. i up'd the tempo and added "work ball into box"

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3 minutes ago, andysafc said:

For me... the package i currently have is highlighted in GREEN, if i click on the PRICE of the other packages it gives me the option to upgrade to that package.

 

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Thanks. At least I now know that's how it's supposed to work. Maybe it's because I've only just taken over as manager.

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15 hours ago, RDF Tactics said:

i mean....wow!! this tactic even more impressive! this is my set up. signed Djikia, a fast CB (his stats are there). BIG TIP, go to team comparision page. check the avg speed and agility of midfielders and attackers, and sign CBs that matches that (screenshot below). schedule i use is also there

 

I'm being told Djikia won't get a work permit. Were you also told this?

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18 hours ago, RDF Tactics said:

i mean....wow!! this tactic even more impressive! this is my set up. signed Djikia, a fast CB (his stats are there). BIG TIP, go to team comparision page. check the avg speed and agility of midfielders and attackers, and sign CBs that matches that (screenshot below). schedule i use is also there

all my CMS are trained as ball winning midfielders...wingers are trained as defensive wingers....All CMS, i moved into the defensive unit...screenshots below again

@andysafc i hope you don't mind all of this on your page? lol

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26 minutes ago, RM2000 said:

RDF and andysafc, do you guys make individual positional training ?

 

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2 hours ago, Law_Man said:

Also RDF - how much did you get Moreno for? I've just agreed £19m pre season. And how has he done for you? (presumably you've been playing him in the pressing forward role)?

it was expensive as i bought him in Jan...he's doing fine, he's my main striker this season, playing as the poacher, i trained him to beat offside trap often. he's got 23 in 45

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1 hour ago, RDF Tactics said:

Champions League winners first time asking!!!! wow! 

defo going for a 3rd season...this may be a long, long save haha

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Do you play through games or just do quick result? 

‘Takes me over a week to do one season, maybe longer with 2 teams. But I am ok about that.

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13 minutes ago, andysafc said:

Do you play through games or just do quick result? 

‘Takes me over a week to do one season, maybe longer with 2 teams. But I am ok about that.

i play the league and CL games, skip the fa cup and carabao games, just go on holiday for a day and tell assistant to use same tactic, i pick the team and tell him to use the current selected team. when testing it, i watched it on extended highlights, now its only commentary, unless i need tweaking, but all last season was only commentary and probably the same 3rd season

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I also only have the Prem and Championship leagues loaded. A couple European ones on view only, and using a huge database, player count is only 17k, game speed was full stars. That and I got continue timeout on instant, so season just skips through. My chief scouts and DoF do all the scouting stuff...I just do training and matches, transfers, player contracts also. And that’s it 

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34 minutes ago, andysafc said:

Do you still have any ambition for this Leicester file?

winning the Premier and Champions League is the top aim for me!

Oh yeah I do, I spent hours looking around for 16/17 year olds to develop lol. I don’t want to just win it once, want to become established. Also I think the team could be better. Still a few original players, still not completely “my team”. 
 

just got rid of Albrighton and Vardy, is my team dynamics will be messed up again because they both were leaders. So it’ll be challenging again, I bought Martial and Lingard (Both were transfer listed), they have some familiarity with the league. 

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