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Non-Realistic South Asian Newgens Skin tones in FM2020

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Hi, I started playing Bangladesh Premier league using a custom database, and I notice the newgens have unrealistic skin tones( including 3d match engine). Some examples:

 

      #1  These newgens looks too light and unrealistic :

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     #2.  These newgens have typical Bengali/South Asian facial features, the skin tone fits in the diversity, but on average, the skin tone should be slightly darker :

          bd6.jpg.c4312973706486ff84942f850d55cb74.jpgbd5.jpg.7aa5d8d99fb09fb6f1a401d5e02e6c12.jpgbd3.jpg.56714ffae3b0adb46adb5714c2975091.jpg

 

     #3.  This newgen also have realistic South Asian facial feature and skin tone :

         bd1.jpg.de29051fefaf2320e14d1fab5d589f46.jpg

 

I think most of the South Asian newgens should get a skin tone that is in-between #2 and #3 and #3 as well.

 

Bangladesh Football Team:

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Indian Football Team:

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Indian team look diverse. Two Indian players have East Asian features as they are from Northeastern states of India bordering China and Myanmar.

 

Pakistan Football Team:

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I also noticed East Asians(China, Korea, Japan) newgens producing unrealistic facial features; for example, they should not get thick beards.

Please tweak these skin tones issues in upcoming patches as its ruining my playing experience.

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Moving this to the relevant forum since we just display the skin tone set by gameplay code for the newgen when generated.

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Hi @ZH94,

Could you upload the save game you took these screenshots from, please? Looks like it contains a good spread of the potential outcomes and would be useful for our Dev team to investigate, cheers.

 

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I overwritten the savefile from which I did take the screenshots, btw I did upload the overwritten savefile, the name is Leopoldo Salvatore - Disoccupato.fm

I used many custom database mods.

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Bump!

After one month of release, they still didn't resolve the issue — Im regretting buying this game at the start. :seagull:

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Apologies for the delay in response, but I can confirm that this issue is under review with our dev team, with your save above providing specific examples. 

It seems this issue is effecting newgens created at game start, meaning custom leagues are likely to be more affected, but hopefully newgens generated as your save progresses will appear more realistic. 

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I have simulated upto 2025 to see if the newgens born later get the right skin tone, but there are still newgens with unrealistic skin tone. 

In the editor I found there are 20 types of skin tone in the game, from which number 11 to numer 15 looks the most realistic for South Asians. The majority should get number 12, number 13 and number 14 IMO.

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I suggest SI to follow this map to assign skin tone to all ethnic groups:

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