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Hey Daveincid, Have you managed to work with the injury update aswell? To increase injuries.

I did 2 seasons with your 10% increased injuries. To be honest, dont know if there were any differences compared to original. I had bad periods, like 5-7 players out, but whenever I checked opponents, they only had 1-3 players out on avarage. I dont have stats or data to prove anything, but I feel that injuries are far more serious ja problematic issue in real life than it is in FM.

So how bout raising it to 20% :brock:

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vor einer Stunde schrieb Streptoverti:

Hey Daveincid, Have you managed to work with the injury update aswell? To increase injuries.

I did 2 seasons with your 10% increased injuries. To be honest, dont know if there were any differences compared to original. I had bad periods, like 5-7 players out, but whenever I checked opponents, they only had 1-3 players out on avarage. I dont have stats or data to prove anything, but I feel that injuries are far more serious ja problematic issue in real life than it is in FM.

So how bout raising it to 20% :brock:

Hi Streptoverti,

Thanks for your feedback! I'm on your side, I'm not 100% happy yet. But it's difficult for me when there is only a feeling, facts would be helpful:) I'm in talks with a true specialist from Germany about this topic. It takes some time to test everything, especially if all files should work together. I will keep you updated:)

Cheers

Daveincid

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On 04/12/2019 at 08:45, Daveincid said:

Hi Streptoverti,

Thanks for your feedback! I'm on your side, I'm not 100% happy yet. But it's difficult for me when there is only a feeling, facts would be helpful:) I'm in talks with a true specialist from Germany about this topic. It takes some time to test everything, especially if all files should work together. I will keep you updated:)

Cheers

Daveincid

i am also used the 20% injuries increase and not seen too many injuries playing as man utd for a season and half. maybe its because i have good medical team and rotate alot. thanks for your great work anyway!

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vor einer Stunde schrieb booble:

i am also used the 20% injuries increase and not seen too many injuries playing as man utd for a season and half. maybe its because i have good medical team and rotate alot. thanks for your great work anyway!

You are forced to rotate alot. That's the point:brock: 

 

Thank you!

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vor 6 Minuten schrieb Mars_Blackmon:

I agree about the injuries, i am definitely looking forward to more in a update. Are they at +10% now?

My test result varies between 9-18% more injuries compared to the original db. We are working on it:thup: 

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On 26/11/2019 at 08:15, Daveincid said:

Thank you for the links! A lot of my data are from theese links:) I'm affraid, as far as I know you can't edit club preferences. It was a feature request back in 2017 and "reviewed", but not changed yet.

But it's getting influenced by the nationality of the chairman sometimes, which is pretty cool! 

Generally the new club philosophies can change the transfer-acting of a Team significant in longterm-saves. There was a Team in my testsave that hardly bought any players for years, after a new chairmen arrived the spended millions

With affiliated clubs you can raise chances too,that a player from that Nation comes to your youth ranks.  These data should already be quite accurate in fm.

Beside that, I don't know If there is another possibility

When there are teams, which have such a strong connection to a Nation without an existing parent club, let me know!

 

 

Cheers

 

Daveincid

Thanks for answering! I am not sure if some teams have strong affiliations with teams in the other nations they like to buy from.

Maybe we could request the team-specific preferences once again.

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vor 22 Minuten schrieb BadAss88:

Don't get it why Brazil has 165 youth rating and then the next country has only 126 and then it rapidly decreases to the rest of the countries..

research:thup: please don't public values. thanks

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7 minutes ago, Daveincid said:

research:thup: please don't public values. thanks

But what is it based on? I think your transfer preferences are really great! But I think you mis hit the ball with the youth rating..I don't get what attendance has to do with the youth rating for a country, nor do I get why the differences are that big in your file, any explanation?

And why can't I public values? Anyone can see them in the editor?

EDIT: I don't wanna offend you or whatsoever, because I really like the work you put into it. Just want to understand why..

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vor 1 Minute schrieb BadAss88:

But what is it based on? I think your transfer preferences are really great! But I think you mis hit the ball with the youth rating..I don't get what attendance has to do with the youth rating for a country, nor do I get why the differences are that big in your file, any explanation?

And why can't I public values? Anyone can see them in the editor?

It's based on my understanding of what's important to reflect reality better in FM. 

Not everyone is checking the values in the editor, it takes fun away IMO. So please just respect it thanks.

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vor 29 Minuten schrieb BadAss88:

But what is it based on? I think your transfer preferences are really great! But I think you mis hit the ball with the youth rating..I don't get what attendance has to do with the youth rating for a country, nor do I get why the differences are that big in your file, any explanation?

And why can't I public values? Anyone can see them in the editor?

EDIT: I don't wanna offend you or whatsoever, because I really like the work you put into it. Just want to understand why..

It's difficult to explain it completely, My Excel has about 30 different parameters. In generall, a nations youth rating is not the only factor which leads to good newgens, not at all. A high rating also leads to a huge spread of quantity, not only quality. If you look how many brazilians play in minor leagues around the globe. The have almost a unlimited talent-fabric.

A high attendance in correlation with full stadiums show that people have passion for the sport and it's part of a Nations culture. So the kids will play it in school, on weekends and so on.  If you have passion, you are more determinded to put all your effort into it. You can see your idols play, you want to be like them or even better. So a high average attendance boosts the national youth rating a bit. It also influences game importance aswell of course. 

My experience so far showed in a example:

Nation A has a YR 160 and football is popular, but they love basketball too

Nation B has a YR 120 and they are absolutely fanatic for football

Nation B can still be better in producing worldclass players. It's not that simple as people think. It's not changing the rating and that's all.

 

I hope you understand it a bit better.

 

Cheers

 

Daveincid

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vor 2 Stunden schrieb MrGizMo:

You got some more screenshots of the transfers and the youth ratings?
 

Specific Nation or year? I just wrote recently that I won't publish the values. If you wanna see them you can through the editor:onmehead:

 

Cheers

Daveincid

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3 hours ago, Daveincid said:

Specific Nation or year? I just wrote recently that I won't publish the values. If you wanna see them you can through the editor:onmehead:

 

Cheers

Daveincid

Dont care about the values :P 

More about what kind of regens there are in your save

Yeah and transfers from French and NL please :) 

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Support. The patches are amazing.

I found that Arsenal and Liverpool have huge amounts of transfer budget after the first season. It is unrealistic since Arsenal and Liverpool, in reality, have seldom buy players for huge amount without selling any players in the club. I hope you have the method to fix this issue.

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Change of the project: 

Injuries increase by 20% (v.1.0) 19.11.2019

I read that SI decreased the ammount of injuries by 20% from real world statistics because people often complained. So I created a file which increases them by 20%.

 

Injuries increase by 20% (v.1.1) 20.11.2019

small adjustments to some injuries which where autoreset to 5.

I highly reccomend the injuries file from @majesticeternity! Her work is absolutely amazing! It's a pleasure to support her project to bring FM to a whole new level! 

Cheers

Daveincid

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Hey wondering if you’re aware of the all Japan high school tournament where they bring in crowds of 40,000-50,000 For the final and 10 million people watch it broadcasted on tv. And if that took any affect on the youth rating on your file? Thank you for all your work!

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Change of the project:

Transfer Preferences (v.1.1) 25.11.2019

This Update is huge....almost 2'000 changes in transfer preferences. Every Nation was updated individually. According to my testing so far the impact is visible for every Nation. In the Top 5 there will be changes in transfer-targets too , but not that much as in lower leagues, because they still aim to get the best Players possible. I will post Pictures with the difference from standard-DB vs. my DB with all Files in the thread. 

I started to integrate the amount of Feeder-Clubs aswell. England for example are likely to have a affilation with a Belgian Team. I will update this in v.1.2, but generally the project is close to be completed. As far as there are no bigger mistakes. 

 

I highly recomend the file from @majesticeternity with some inputs of my preferences-file! Her work is absolutely amazing! It's incredible with what amount of speed, effort and view for details she creates content I never thought that it would be possible! 

 

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10 hours ago, Daveincid said:

Change of the project:

Transfer Preferences (v.1.1) 25.11.2019

This Update is huge....almost 2'000 changes in transfer preferences. Every Nation was updated individually. According to my testing so far the impact is visible for every Nation. In the Top 5 there will be changes in transfer-targets too , but not that much as in lower leagues, because they still aim to get the best Players possible. I will post Pictures with the difference from standard-DB vs. my DB with all Files in the thread. 

I started to integrate the amount of Feeder-Clubs aswell. England for example are likely to have a affilation with a Belgian Team. I will update this in v.1.2, but generally the project is close to be completed. As far as there are no bigger mistakes. 

 

I highly recomend the file from @majesticeternity with some inputs of my preferences-file! Her work is absolutely amazing! It's incredible with what amount of speed, effort and view for details she creates content I never thought that it would be possible! 

 

Thank you guys for the great work. Is the youth ratings gonna get a new update? Or is it done? Thank you 

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On 16/01/2020 at 20:08, dillonbarrett1997 said:

Thank you guys for the great work. Is the youth ratings gonna get a new update? Or is it done? Thank you 

Yes, it will be updated. Hopefully to complement the transfer preferences mod.

On 16/01/2020 at 20:47, steakfaced said:

Do the newly linked threads [FM20] work in fM19 as well?

They should work, it’s only database changes, and FM19 Files don’t even need converted to FM20. 

But you should load them in the FM19 Editor, then save them, just to make sure they’re using FM19s database. 

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11 hours ago, majesticeternity said:

Yes, it will be updated. Hopefully to complement the transfer preferences mod.

They should work, it’s only database changes, and FM19 Files don’t even need converted to FM20. 

But you should load them in the FM19 Editor, then save them, just to make sure they’re using FM19s database. 

Awesome! Do you know about when? Thank you

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