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10 минут назад, Neil Brock сказал:

No it's been worked on further since the public beta version was released. 

Neil, could you clarify me please if it possible - is it final version of ME? I asking just because to know can I start long save or not (its my personal weirdness to play save by only one ME version)

Cheers!

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13 minutes ago, Rivanov said:

I can safely opt-out of the Public Beta right now to play the normal 20.2.4 version without damaging my savegame?

The public beta version has been updated to exactly match the 'retail' version. They're both exactly the same. So yes, opt out if you want to. 

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4 minutes ago, ferrarinseb said:

Is this Beta ME or does this have more updates than What Beta had?

It was clarified the last page that it's further improved on the public beta. 

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1 minute ago, BigV said:

It was clarified the last page that it's further improved on the public beta. 

Ah sorry just checked now. Last time i checked i didn't saw it so thought of asking it. Thanks for the answer. 

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2 minutes ago, Xenxu said:

Awesome! Will test the update this afternoon. May I ask if the lack of central play is also fixed?

Read the change list like everyone else does it tells you on there what has been done

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3 minutes ago, mztr said:

pretty crazy first game after the update, lets see where this goes :o

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Alot of yellow cards are still apparent it seems, let em know if it still happens 

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5 minutes ago, mztr said:

pretty crazy first game after the update, lets see where this goes :o

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Your game was the only one with a large score. Perhaps something due to your tactics?

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Great news, and it seems like the key issues were addressed.

Now let's see tonight if they were addressed properly... still unsure after having endured the most horrendous ME glitches for years for too long.

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59 minutes ago, Neil Brock said:

Match Engine Update out now. Details here - https://community.sigames.com/topic/512866-football-manager-2020-match-engine-update-2024-out-now/

Will look to close this feedback thread and start a new one given the majority of posts are related to the ME, however will let people download it and try for themselves for a little bit first. Thanks. 

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

*Goes for a siesta and a break*

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Did I mention thank you?

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1 hour ago, Neil Brock said:

The public beta version has been updated to exactly match the 'retail' version. They're both exactly the same. So yes, opt out if you want to. 

Hi - how do I opt out of the beta and does doing so mean I would need to start a new game??

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1 minute ago, formerlyiab said:

Hi - how do I opt out of the beta and does doing so mean I would need to start a new game??

Same way you opted in to it.. and no, you can carry on... the public beta is the same as the live version now also, so you may as well opt out and go on the live version

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Just now, Welshace said:

Same way you opted in to it.. and no, you can carry on... the public beta is the same as the live version now also, so you may as well opt out and go on the live version

imagine I cant  remember how I did that - could you talk me through it.

 

sorrt......

 

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4 minutes ago, formerlyiab said:

imagine I cant  remember how I did that - could you talk me through it.

 

sorrt......

 

rightclick on FM in steam, properties -> Betas -> opt out

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4 minutes ago, formerlyiab said:

imagine I cant  remember how I did that - could you talk me through it.

 

sorrt......

 

haha ok..

 

right click fm20 in steam > properties>  betas tab > opt out from drop down menu

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Finally a much better entertaining responsive match engine!

Games now feel fun to play with a good  variety of goals and different tactics getting acted out on the pitch!

Thank you best ME since the pre release ME.

 

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I have some doubts about finishing in short distance. I can't have a clear opinion because I didn't analyze statistics and have no idea about ME balancing procedures etc. In other hand I watched in these moments in searching of ME issues, when Gundogan missed 100% moment IRL in last week its very similar about Im talkin about.  

And vice versa, opposite lower teams have a strong % of finishing. Mostly after freekick/corners (no direct shot). And you can find IRL examples too. Border situation.

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Like this:

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Second issue is not about ME directly, so probably it just not updated yet - I still confusing about AssMan preferences to choose a starting XI. For example he wants to use Zielinski like BWM(s) and Allan as Mez(a) but imo it much better to use Allan as BWM. Or AssMan ignores Jorginho. I just don't want that AI managers use the same mistakes, it ruined a part of ambience.

Also I dont like a wide in positive mentality, I guess it could be even wider, but this is not investigated just quick look.

Looks like IWB returned to be useful, I just could not look at his movements after 20.2.
CAM still looks weak link, but this role is slowly dying IRL isn't?

In general I believe in things which happen in this ME version :thup: It is really try to mirror IRL football games of today.

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Played two matches with the new ME on "full game" rather than highlights.   In short: please provide a roll-back option.   

I was fine with the previous release and this ME simply looks weird.  I have players "tap dancing" on the ball or "skating" across the pitch with a slow dribble in possession while an opponent walks alongside them.  

 

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4 minutes ago, Tiger666 said:

Still seems to be too much dribbling in the game. Two matches played, 69 dribbles.

How much is average for a game of football irl?

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1 minute ago, Welshace said:

How much is average for a game of football irl?

I'd have to look it up. Someone else posted some stats here but I don't know where they got them from. There are far more dribbles than in previous versions:

 

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Nothing to do with the latest ME update, but a feedback when your team gets to the Club World Cup. The team travels before and after each match, using up a spot each time. Wouldn't it be better if the team travelled to the championship and stayed there for let's say a 2-3 days before until the day after? Perhaps even being able to choose a specific place to stay, like a training center for a local club or such?

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1 minute ago, l.s said:

Nothing to do with the latest ME update, but a feedback when your team gets to the Club World Cup. The team travels before and after each match, using up a spot each time. Wouldn't it be better if the team travelled to the championship and stayed there for let's say a 2-3 days before until the day after? Perhaps even being able to choose a specific place to stay, like a training center for a local club or such?

Any chance you can raise this here so our QA team can investigate? - https://community.sigames.com/topic/495632-world-official-league-specific-issues/

Thanks. 

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One game with update - had a man sent off for two yellows after 5 minutes, saw a horrendous case of back post unmarking of three players from a corner, and conceded a goal after a horrendous piece of defending where my CD just stopped.

It was more like the defending I was seeing before the beta of the current update, and defending I wasn't seeing in the beta. I'll take it as a one off (man sent off and had a busy month of games moved for winter world cup so players are knackered) but keep an eye on things.

On the other side of things, I saw a lot of much better balls in to the box, less crazy heading over and some nice new bits of play.

I just got unlucky with proceedings in my first macth with the patch.

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Unfortunatelly I detect old issue which looked fixed before.

I won Napoli 5-0 Lecce and my possession is 43%
Napoli 3-0 Udinese 46%
Napoli 3-0 Fiorentina 40%
For now I play Napoli - PSG and my possession is 61%

It returns us in times when low teams have a lot of empty possession by low riskly mentalities. Possession without any sence

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2 minutes ago, Novem9 said:

Unfortunatelly I detect old issue which looked fixed before.

I won Napoli 5-0 Lecce and my possession is 43%
Napoli 3-0 Udinese 46%
Napoli 3-0 Fiorentina 40%
For now I play Napoli - PSG and my possession is 61%

It returns us in times when low teams have a lot of empty possession by low riskly mentalities. Possession without any sence

Same for me

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just watched 30 odd ai vs ai games with goals only, and I don't see many differences in the variety of goals 

Goals from set pieces, goals from crosses goals from long shots.

Its really bad, since when did this become acceptable, SI must know there is a lack in goal variety, it makes the ME so boring. 

 

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3 минуты назад, Novem9 сказал:

Unfortunatelly I detect old issue which looked fixed before.

I won Napoli 5-0 Lecce and my possession is 43%
Napoli 3-0 Udinese 46%
Napoli 3-0 Fiorentina 40%
For now I play Napoli - PSG and my possession is 61%

It returns us in times when low teams have a lot of empty possession by low riskly mentalities. Possession without any sence

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Still far to many headers going over the bar

Defenders wanting to take 45 mins to pass a ball in the box resulting in losing the ball and conceding a goal, adding that at the halfway line wanting to boot the ball back to the keeper when a simple sideways pass is on.

1 on 1 shots are as good as passbacks to the keeper sometimes they are that weak

Yellow cards on standard tackling still an issue, get stuck in, i dread to of that bloodbath

narrow formations still very weak with most things going wide

 

Also the training information is still laughable.... got a defender on quickness training but its now no longer a weakness with his stats at Acc 9 and Pace 10 

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Just played my first game: 3-3, three worldies from outside the box (ratings 11, 15 and 12). I know it's not part of the changelog, but it still needs improvement. Players do not score so many goals from outside the box in real life unless they are called Lionel Messi.

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Had an 18 year old CD playing at RB for my opponent with long shots of "4" and finishing of "6" score a worldie from 30 yards out while being closed down by our best defender.    Seeing worldies and back post headers galore...

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- Throw-in positional adjustment

Could somebody confirm that you can now at least pressure the throw in taker and he doesn't have oceans of space to cross the ball after he gets it back? 

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