karremansje Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 I don't own a 64-bit-laptop, so unfortunately can't play FM20.... I can't buy a new one right now.... SI..... why didn't you release it in 32-bit ? You're losing a lot of dinosaurs of the game I think.. I could do crowdfunding I suppose for a new laptop... Excuse me for being a little sarcastic but i'm a little sad I cant play the newest FM anymore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBI Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Is the laptop not 64 bit or just the windows version that is installed? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
karremansje Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 The laptop is 32-bit... that's the problem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmattb28 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Whilst I feel for you, I've been playing since 1999 myself, times are a changing mate, and it was only a matter of time before they dropped 32bit support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoham Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Why not buy it on Google Stadia? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
karremansje Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 31 minutes ago, Scoham said: Why not buy it on Google Stadia? That's certainly an option.... I already bought a copy of FM20 (every year a no-brainer...) without looking at the specs... .not realizing I couldn't play it on my laptop anymore.... that's maybe a little stupid haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lempicka Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Shame. Why not look at a refurbished laptop online, or a pay monthly deal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonlondoner Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Likewise my Ford Cortina runs on 4 star leaded petrol, I feel your pain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzachips Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 im a 32 bit and it works pretty much like FM19 for me. play with the settings in game i.e lower graphics etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Scoham said: Why not buy it on Google Stadia? Is that not about £190, plus £10 a month? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImDaWeasel Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Keep playing an older version until you can buy a system that's under 6 years old. Have to get with the times eventually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
karremansje Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 47 minutes ago, ImDaWeasel said: Keep playing an older version until you can buy a system that's under 6 years old. Have to get with the times eventually. Fortunately I'm still playing FM19 ofcourse 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoham Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 2 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: Is that not about £190, plus £10 a month? Isn’t there a way to only buy the game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 2 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: Is that not about £190, plus £10 a month? In that case it would make more sense to buy a new[er] laptop, surely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff EdL Posted November 16, 2019 SI Staff Share Posted November 16, 2019 The CPU will not be 32bit, no processor that can play the game is 32bit only so you should be able to install 64bit windows, however the caveat is possibly some of the drivers for the hardware might not have 64bit driver support, If you give us the model of laptop we might be able to advise further. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff EdL Posted November 16, 2019 SI Staff Share Posted November 16, 2019 4 hours ago, pizzachips said: im a 32 bit and it works pretty much like FM19 for me. play with the settings in game i.e lower graphics etc You aren't There is no 32bit binary so the game cannot run on 32bit systems. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Scoham said: Isn’t there a way to only buy the game? I think they offer a free version of stadia, but you get lower quality everything and I don't think theres even been a release date for the free version of it yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
karremansje Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 hour ago, EdL said: The CPU will not be 32bit, no processor that can play the game is 32bit only so you should be able to install 64bit windows, however the caveat is possibly some of the drivers for the hardware might not have 64bit driver support, If you give us the model of laptop we might be able to advise further. EdL: here's the system information ------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 11/16/2019, 18:05:54 Machine name: MSI-CR720 Machine Id: {7252F158-FFA8-414D-8F99-F2728D782D12} Operating System: Windows 10 Home 32-bit (10.0, Build 18362) (18362.19h1_release.190318-1202) Language: Dutch (Regional Setting: Dutch) System Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD System Model: MS-1736 BIOS: BIOS Date: 09/23/09 11:58:43 Ver: 08.00.10 (type: BIOS) Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 370 @ 2.40GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.4GHz Memory: 3072MB RAM Available OS Memory: 2926MB RAM Page File: 3078MB used, 7847MB available Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS DirectX Version: DirectX 12 DX Setup Parameters: Not found User DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent) System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent) DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled Miracast: Not Available Microsoft Graphics Hybrid: Not Supported DirectX Database Version: Unknown DxDiag Version: 10.00.18362.0387 32bit Unicode Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Popular Post EdL Posted November 16, 2019 SI Staff Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2019 As I suspected that is a 64bit processor, and it seems from here it initially did have drivers for Windows 7 64bit https://www.notebook-driver.com/msi-cr720-notebook-windows-drivers-utility/ I can't imagine any reason you couldn't switch to 64bit Windows 10, however you cannot upgrade so it would require a fresh install. I found some sinstructions here https://www.windowscentral.com/how-upgrade-32-bit-64-bit-version-windows-10 which has some further checks on if your machine can run 64bit windows 10. Also bear in mind, in any case that machine is right on the edge of the minimum specification, so you aren't likely to have an optimial playing experience. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
karremansje Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, EdL said: As I suspected that is a 64bit processor, and it seems from here it initially did have drivers for Windows 7 64bit https://www.notebook-driver.com/msi-cr720-notebook-windows-drivers-utility/ I can't imagine any reason you couldn't switch to 64bit Windows 10, however you cannot upgrade so it would require a fresh install. I found some sinstructions here https://www.windowscentral.com/how-upgrade-32-bit-64-bit-version-windows-10 which has some further checks on if your machine can run 64bit windows 10. Also bear in mind, in any case that machine is right on the edge of the minimum specification, so you aren't likely to have an optimial playing experience. Thanks ! I'll give it a try ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
99 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 hora atrás, karremansje disse: Thanks ! I'll give it a try ! Hope you succeed mate! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anagain Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 I'm really impressed with that for dedicated customer support. It just goes to show that SI are nowhere near as bad as many people make out year after year. @EdL has just shown that they care about their fans. Hope you can get it sorted and get to play FM20, @karremansje. Also, @karremansje, here is a link to a page all about Google Stadia - https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/stadia-everything-you-need-to-know-about-googles-game-streaming-service. I might be wrong, but I think you can pay $9.99 a month to access any games. There is a minimum system requirement listed on the page, but it seems very high for a system that runs games from elsewhere. I'm probably not techy enough to fully delve in to that. I suspect you're going to want to update that laptop. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwityke1983 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 19 hours ago, enigmatic said: In that case it would make more sense to buy a new[er] laptop, surely? I think you've just discovered why Google Stadia might not even survive to launch FM21 haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 17 hours ago, EdL said: As I suspected that is a 64bit processor, and it seems from here it initially did have drivers for Windows 7 64bit https://www.notebook-driver.com/msi-cr720-notebook-windows-drivers-utility/ I can't imagine any reason you couldn't switch to 64bit Windows 10, however you cannot upgrade so it would require a fresh install. I found some sinstructions here https://www.windowscentral.com/how-upgrade-32-bit-64-bit-version-windows-10 which has some further checks on if your machine can run 64bit windows 10. Also bear in mind, in any case that machine is right on the edge of the minimum specification, so you aren't likely to have an optimial playing experience. Does 64 bit not require at least 4GB of RAM? I could be imagining that requirement of course, but that laptop only has 3GB RAM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff EdL Posted November 17, 2019 SI Staff Share Posted November 17, 2019 2 hours ago, kevhamster said: Does 64 bit not require at least 4GB of RAM? I could be imagining that requirement of course, but that laptop only has 3GB RAM. No such requirement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
karremansje Posted November 17, 2019 Author Share Posted November 17, 2019 32 minutes ago, EdL said: No such requirement "While in the "About" page, make sure to check that the device has at least 2GB of memory, which is the minimum requirement to use 64-bit." That's what I found at the page to upgrade 32 to 64-bit. I didn't have time to do an update. There was this exciting game of football last night in Belfast haha.... but thanks for all the support 6 hours ago, anagain said: I'm really impressed with that for dedicated customer support. It just goes to show that SI are nowhere near as bad as many people make out year after year. @EdL has just shown that they care about their fans. Hope you can get it sorted and get to play FM20, @karremansje. Also, @karremansje, here is a link to a page all about Google Stadia - https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/stadia-everything-you-need-to-know-about-googles-game-streaming-service. I might be wrong, but I think you can pay $9.99 a month to access any games. There is a minimum system requirement listed on the page, but it seems very high for a system that runs games from elsewhere. I'm probably not techy enough to fully delve in to that. I suspect you're going to want to update that laptop. I can only agree with @anagain. Super dedication from @EdL What I have read about Google Stadia (correct me if i'm wrong) is that you can have a free version and buy a game (in this case FM20), you don't have to have an monthly subscription then. I suppose i only need it to play FM20. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
99 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 8 horas atrás, anagain disse: I'm really impressed with that for dedicated customer support. It just goes to show that SI are nowhere near as bad as many people make out year after year. @EdL has just shown that they care about their fans. Hope you can get it sorted and get to play FM20, @karremansje. Also, @karremansje, here is a link to a page all about Google Stadia - https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/stadia-everything-you-need-to-know-about-googles-game-streaming-service. I might be wrong, but I think you can pay $9.99 a month to access any games. There is a minimum system requirement listed on the page, but it seems very high for a system that runs games from elsewhere. I'm probably not techy enough to fully delve in to that. I suspect you're going to want to update that laptop. I'm a bit surprised with those minimum requirements, I think it kinda blows up the purpose. But, I can't even test it because my country is not avaliable in the start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post karremansje Posted November 17, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 17, 2019 @EdL Thanks for your support. I am 64-bit now ! 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff EdL Posted November 17, 2019 SI Staff Share Posted November 17, 2019 Great, glad to hear it 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
99 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) 3 horas atrás, karremansje disse: @EdL Thanks for your support. I am 64-bit now ! Fantastic! Happy for you Edited November 18, 2019 by 99 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lempicka Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 10 hours ago, karremansje said: @EdL Thanks for your support. I am 64-bit now ! Great news! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
karremansje Posted July 12, 2020 Author Share Posted July 12, 2020 Major news !!!! Here's my new laptop: System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 7/12/2020, 22:24:27 Machine name: LAPTOP-GPS1ASE0 Machine Id: {D6C95137-304A-4D88-8FA8-FB4D505074E0} Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64-bit (10.0, Build 19041) (19041.vb_release.191206-1406) Language: Dutch (Regional Setting: Dutch) System Manufacturer: LENOVO System Model: 81WC BIOS: DXCN21WW (type: UEFI) Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-10210U CPU @ 1.60GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.1GHz Memory: 8192MB RAM Available OS Memory: 8026MB RAM Page File: 4828MB used, 6013MB available Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS DirectX Version: DirectX 12 DX Setup Parameters: Not found User DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent) System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent) DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled Miracast: Available, with HDCP Microsoft Graphics Hybrid: Not Supported DirectX Database Version: 1.0.8 DxDiag Version: 10.00.19041.0084 64bit Unicode ------------ DxDiag Notes ------------ Display Tab 1: No problems found. Sound Tab 1: The file RTKVHD64.sys is not digitally signed, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL). You may be able to get a WHQL logo'd driver from the hardware manufacturer. Input Tab: No problems found. -------------------- DirectX Debug Levels -------------------- Direct3D: 0/4 (retail) DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail) DirectInput: 0/5 (retail) DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail) DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail) DirectSound: 0/5 (retail) DirectShow: 0/6 (retail) --------------- Display Devices --------------- Card name: Intel(R) UHD Graphics Manufacturer: Intel Corporation Chip type: Intel(R) UHD Graphics Family DAC type: Internal Device Type: Full Device (POST) Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_9B41&SUBSYS_3FB317AA&REV_02 Device Status: 0180200A [DN_DRIVER_LOADED|DN_STARTED|DN_DISABLEABLE|DN_NT_ENUMERATOR|DN_NT_DRIVER] Device Problem Code: No Problem Driver Problem Code: Unknown Display Memory: 4140 MB Dedicated Memory: 128 MB Shared Memory: 4012 MB Current Mode: 1600 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz) It's a beast in comparison with my old machine..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR866Gunner Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 On 12/07/2020 at 21:28, karremansje said: Major news !!!! Here's my new laptop: System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 7/12/2020, 22:24:27 Machine name: LAPTOP-GPS1ASE0 Machine Id: {D6C95137-304A-4D88-8FA8-FB4D505074E0} Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64-bit (10.0, Build 19041) (19041.vb_release.191206-1406) Language: Dutch (Regional Setting: Dutch) System Manufacturer: LENOVO System Model: 81WC BIOS: DXCN21WW (type: UEFI) Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-10210U CPU @ 1.60GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.1GHz Memory: 8192MB RAM Available OS Memory: 8026MB RAM Page File: 4828MB used, 6013MB available Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS DirectX Version: DirectX 12 DX Setup Parameters: Not found User DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent) System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent) DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled Miracast: Available, with HDCP Microsoft Graphics Hybrid: Not Supported DirectX Database Version: 1.0.8 DxDiag Version: 10.00.19041.0084 64bit Unicode ------------ DxDiag Notes ------------ Display Tab 1: No problems found. Sound Tab 1: The file RTKVHD64.sys is not digitally signed, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL). You may be able to get a WHQL logo'd driver from the hardware manufacturer. Input Tab: No problems found. -------------------- DirectX Debug Levels -------------------- Direct3D: 0/4 (retail) DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail) DirectInput: 0/5 (retail) DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail) DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail) DirectSound: 0/5 (retail) DirectShow: 0/6 (retail) --------------- Display Devices --------------- Card name: Intel(R) UHD Graphics Manufacturer: Intel Corporation Chip type: Intel(R) UHD Graphics Family DAC type: Internal Device Type: Full Device (POST) Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_9B41&SUBSYS_3FB317AA&REV_02 Device Status: 0180200A [DN_DRIVER_LOADED|DN_STARTED|DN_DISABLEABLE|DN_NT_ENUMERATOR|DN_NT_DRIVER] Device Problem Code: No Problem Driver Problem Code: Unknown Display Memory: 4140 MB Dedicated Memory: 128 MB Shared Memory: 4012 MB Current Mode: 1600 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz) It's a beast in comparison with my old machine..... Nice one! That should certainly do a better job than the last one! Dont expect full on 3D but the rest of the game should be nice and smooth. I have to run 2D on mine otherwise the fans go nuts!! Have you got FM installed and happily running now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
karremansje Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share Posted July 22, 2020 On 20/07/2020 at 10:08, JR866Gunner said: Nice one! That should certainly do a better job than the last one! Dont expect full on 3D but the rest of the game should be nice and smooth. I have to run 2D on mine otherwise the fans go nuts!! Have you got FM installed and happily running now? Yes, FM was never so fast as right now.... and it runs smoothly on 3D! I am happy ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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