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Anyone else seeing an increase in penalties and red cards in the public beta?

In my last two games I've seen 3 red cards and 3 penalties.

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Also just opted in to the public beta and although I've only played the first game, the difference is night and day. Managing Ipswich at the mo' (and have had a couple of months with Man Utd and Plymouth) and for the first time I can see the difference in quality on the pitch. In standard beta there was absolutely no visible difference between Man Utd, Plymouth and Ipswich - same patterns of play, same goals, same mistakes, same cross-field passing. First friendly, Ipswich vs Standard Liege, and I could instantly see that Standard had better passing, were quicker to the ball, and notably better positioning and anticipation.

Even better, there were no cross-field passes, none of that endless one-twoing between FB and inside midfielder around the corner of the penalty area. For the first time in FM20 it looked like real football. Early days but I'd say freeze it, ship it, job's a good 'un!

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Just now, RandomGuy. said:

Scott Tanser hat trick :lol:

Two new signings got the other two, including George Williams who returned after I sold Wright.

well it's official, the ME is a shambles

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I'm not sure if this is better or just different. The crossfield passes and long shots have gone, but 1v1's and long balls over the top seem to be worse?

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1 minute ago, Iwabik said:

Did you try updating graphics drivers or lowering settings?

Yes i update my graphic card to the newest driver

i dont need to, i have during the ME 55-60 FPS but its still lag.. i put back 20.0.4 and its smooth 

 

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2 minutes ago, steviemay17 said:

well it's official, the ME is a shambles

Maybe, they were all penalties, won by my right back :lol:

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Had a nice 4132 going in the original Beta, 76 points with Leicester season one, re ran it on the opt in beta and I'm 20 points worse off, +30 goal difference now -4 :lol:

Like it. Time to get to work. 

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Only played 2 games so far with this new ME, it's not enough for any conclusion. But I have to say... oh boy I do love what I'm seeing here! Deff going in the right direction.

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Im loving the signs atm, maybe I will buy the game afterall :D question is would you complete for your final year of university with a good grade or play FM20 through it and "just pass"?? 

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I've never seen this before, good that it lets you know. Thiago's not in any mentoring group though, is this right?

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21 minutes ago, ajw10 said:

I'm not sure if this is better or just different. The crossfield passes and long shots have gone, but 1v1's and long balls over the top seem to be worse?

Wingers are still shooting from impossible angles.

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10 minutes ago, Johnny Ace said:

I've never seen this before, good that it lets you know. Thiago's not in any mentoring group though, is this right?

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Maybe you have assistant manager handling training and decided to teach him that trait?

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Only a couple of games in with the new ME - but some noticeable improvements!

Nice :cool:

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The board is blocking nearly all of my transfers...

I'm Manchester City

I have over 150M transfer budget

Edited by kingking

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Good news after a single game with the new ME and I was very critic with old one:

- No more side to side long passes from the fullbacks.

- Wide players now cross instead of shooting with no angle

- Less long shoots from my midfielders but still to much goals, 3 so far in two games.

- More through ball attempts inside the area but still not enough

- More dribbles from skilled players, huge difference here.

It all makes attacking posession football more interesting to watch, as my team no longer shoot from outside but try to pass to the players inside the area. Nice to see skilled players now dribbling past their opponents in the middle of the field.

Edited by Icy

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5 minutes ago, kandersson said:

Maybe you have assistant manager handling training and decided to teach him that trait?

Maybe but it says mentoring review 

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1 minute ago, kingking said:

The board is blocking 90% of all my transfers...

I'm Manchester City

I have over 150M transfer budget

I make sure i purchase stars below that transfer budget

 

And what reason do they give you for blocking the transfer? Also, club vision is new this year. If they have a requirement to, say,  only sign U23 players or players of a certain calibre, then they do now block transfers that don't meet the criteria they set. 

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After 2 matches it finally feels like I'm watching something somewhat close to football.

Still think wingers and fullbacks need some work done as they are still missing opportunities to cross from being to lethargic with the ball and then end up being caught by the defenders and loose the right time to cross and have to either play the ball back or try one on one which so far is looking like they always lose it

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6 minutes ago, Dagenham_Dave said:

And what reason do they give you for blocking the transfer? Also, club vision is new this year. If they have a requirement to, say,  only sign U23 players or players of a certain calibre, then they do now block transfers that don't meet the criteria they set. 

They say I am overpaying and a deal no greater than 90 million is reasonable 

however, I wanted to pay in instalments 

Brunos club want more than 90 million

so i can't get him even though Manchester City is financially able to afford him

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3 minutes ago, kingking said:

They say I am overpaying and a deal no greater than 90 million is reasonable 

however, i wanted to pay in instalments 

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Just to double check, you're paying a £62m initial fee PLUS £138m installments (£200m total), not £138m total

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Just now, Gunnersmoke said:

How do you opt into the public beta? Or has there been an update tonight?

go to steam library right click on FM2020 select Properties... and on the BETAS tab select the public beta option

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1 minute ago, Gunnersmoke said:

How do you opt into the public beta? Or has there been an update tonight?

Right click on football manager — the lowest option — beta-version — opt to participate

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7 minutes ago, Dagenham_Dave said:

I think they might be onto something there...

lol maybe 

but I feel like it is a little harsh in a world where the richest teams like real Madrid pay large amounts for the top players

especially if it is in instalments and the club can afford it

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19 minutes ago, Johnny Ace said:

Maybe but it says mentoring review 

Yeah this is also weird as he's a 29 years old player with high status and reputation, probably something to report as a bug.

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3 minutes ago, kingking said:

lol maybe 

but I feel like it is a little harsh in a world where the richest teams like real Madrid pay large amounts for the top players

especially if it is in instalments and the club can afford it

They might be able to afford it, but remember FPP is still a thing. It sounds like a sensible decision by your board. On that basis, I'd raise it as a bug as Man City's actual owners would probably sanction it without question :lol:

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One thing, did anybody notice increase in injuries? I'm having a little crisis and don't know if this is public-beta related or just my small squad is suffering because of the december/january schedule...

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ME seems to be a bit better - Not played enough games to truly see, but less switching is a good thing, and a few more through-balls  But there are some graphic's bugs in the update:

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The in-game graphics look poor:

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That's on Medium (GPU is upto date), which was done due to the speed issue (I'll revert that and test more)

Also - Please tell my why Lloris is NOT a Natural in GK? Essecially when his attributes clearly suit a GK vs a Sweeper Keeper? In fact the attributes for a Sweeper Keeper are really poor (Passing, First Touch, Compsure, Vision), so I don't quite understand why he's deemed a better Sweeper Keeper then as a GK? (BTW, I play him as GK, with take less risks)

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2 minutes ago, Iwabik said:

One thing, did anybody notice increase in injuries? I'm having a little crisis and don't know if this is public-beta related or just my small squad is suffering because of the december/january schedule...

I've noticed more injuries for the other teams in the league. Looks close to real life in that respect. I still don't have any, of course 

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I've done alright on injuries, I got a Steam achievement at the tail end of last season because I had no one injured for 3 months 

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13 hours ago, RandomGuy. said:

Skip to 2:07.

Player running towards byline has two free players in the 6 yard box and shoots instead.

This is what I mean. Yes, you will see players attempt those, but by any standards it's an ambitious effort.

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Opted into the beta-beta. 

Match engine is much better, however I'm now getting performance hits. FPS was a silky smooth 60 before, now it drops to 40-44. It's nothing to do with my graphics card, or rather it shouldn't - it's a GTX1080, so there absolutely shouldn't be an issue here, but yeah, framerate issues, stuttering and lag on the 3D at the moment.

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4 minutes ago, isignedupfornorealreason said:

Opted into the beta-beta. 

Match engine is much better, however I'm now getting performance hits. FPS was a silky smooth 60 before, now it drops to 40-44. It's nothing to do with my graphics card, or rather it shouldn't - it's a GTX1080, so there absolutely shouldn't be an issue here, but yeah, framerate issues, stuttering and lag on the 3D at the moment.

Me too.. a lot of lag in the ME and between days

In 20.0.4 it was very smooth 

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4 hours ago, Dagenham_Dave said:

I'm the other way around. I had to fiddle with the settings when it first came out, the update before this one improved it, and this update is running great for me. This is another example of why this game is impossible for SI to please everyone. 

I`m the same as you. Hell trying 20.1 now its so quick i was like "whaaat the f...." Guess i got used to the lag since it came out.

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5 hours ago, akakbash said:

Right click on football manager — the lowest option — beta-version — opt to participate

Cheers, is it just me or are graphics better for you guys? Or maybe it just feels and looks smoother?

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Playing the latest beta.... it's a marked improvement! Still an awful lot of long balls in behind for 1-on-1's though, which seem to account for near enough 100% of my chances

Edited by ceefax the cat

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Just now, ceefax the cat said:

Playing the latest beta.... it's a marked improvement! Still an awful lot of long balls in behind for 1-on-1's though, which seem to account for near enough 100% of my chances

By 'latest beta', did you mean 'public opt-in beta'?

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Do you guys think they will let out the new beta (new ME) to public before official release next week?

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9 hours ago, Dagenham_Dave said:

Great job with this new match engine. Played a few games now, and it certainly feels a lot closer to what it should be. And I'm now converted to 3d now that it looks better and runs smoother. I'm actually enjoying watching the games now due to it not being endless crossfield passes, massive hoofs over the defence and worldies from 30 yards every game. Good job. 

But the real question is - is the ME better than FM17's?

Edited by Armistice

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49 minutes ago, KiLLu12258 said:

is clubvision fixed? Someone can check this out?

I think so mine is anyway.

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1 hour ago, KiLLu12258 said:

is clubvision fixed? Someone can check this out?

What's wrong exactly? Is club vision fixed is such a generic question

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I had mine fixed - issue was "Dissapointed not close to making champions league places" (I am 2nd in the league 31 games in, 8 points clear of 4th).

They are now dissapointed i didn't sign more U22 players for the future...I had other player reqriutment priorities.

Anyone else noticed poor Graphics as per above images?

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Ma United board are a bit too demanding. Winning the europa league and 3rd in the PL and it's only a C+. Also I'm required to increase commercial revenue? How is that the job of a manager and what am I expected to do exactly?

Also to ensure we have the best youth academy in the world? The facilities are state of the art, what else is there to do?

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4 minutes ago, luka_ said:

Ma United board are a bit too demanding. Winning the europa league and 3rd in the PL and it's only a C+. Also I'm required to increase commercial revenue? How is that the job of a manager and what am I expected to do exactly?

Also to ensure we have the best youth academy in the world? The facilities are state of the art, what else is there to do?

Big names players = shirt sales, big cup games = tickets sales, at a guess 

Re: The Academy, just make sure it stays state of the art, there's not a lot else you can do 

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