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Please post any specific issues for Asia competitions here. This is for any issue which does not relate to data and is for areas such as:

- Competition Rules (Club and International)
- Disciplinary Rules
- Transfer Rules

We would request you all to adhere to the following three point plan when posting in here:

- State what you think is specifically wrong in your league.
- State how you think it should be working.
- State reasons/proof for your corrections/improvements.

Please note that specific data issues for Asia should be posted in the Database and Research Issues forum.

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The Korean team's roster for the 2019 AFC Champions League is strange.

Perhaps, the results of the 2017 K-League combined with the results of the 2018 KFA Cup.

(Jeonbuk, Jeju, Suwon+Daegu)

However, the results of the 2018 K-League and the 2018 KFA Cup must be combined.

(Jeonbuk, Gyeongnam, Ulsan+Daegu)

Many Korean FM users are hoping for a quick fix. I hope this deadly problem can be solved before it is officially released.

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The Chinese Super league U-23 players rule is not correct. The team should play at least 1 U-23 player on the pitch, not 3 U-23 players from the starting line-up. 

Also, in a single calendar season, the club is able to register 5 new players(over 21) and 3 new players(under 21).

The reason is because I am playing in the Super league...

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Managing Kitchee in the HK Premier League, when registering my squad for the season it is only allowing me to register 3 foreign players. Although this rule is only for Fuli(HK) it is currently applying for Kitchee as well.

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On 2019. 10. 31. at 오후 11시 45분, Freddie Sands said:

Please post any specific issues for Asia competitions here. This is for any issue which does not relate to data and is for areas such as:

- Competition Rules (Club and International)
- Disciplinary Rules
- Transfer Rules

We would request you all to adhere to the following three point plan when posting in here:

- State what you think is specifically wrong in your league.
- State how you think it should be working.
- State reasons/proof for your corrections/improvements.

Please note that specific data issues for Asia should be posted in the Database and Research Issues forum.

Why u dont check here?

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36 minutes ago, Kodiak said:

Why u dont check here?

Because it is the weekend in the UK and the SI staff do not work at the weekend. Please be patient in the future

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On 31/10/2019 at 14:45, Freddie Sands said:

Please post any specific issues for Asia competitions here. This is for any issue which does not relate to data and is for areas such as:

- Competition Rules (Club and International)
- Disciplinary Rules
- Transfer Rules

We would request you all to adhere to the following three point plan when posting in here:

Managing Geylang International at start of 2020 season and struggling to register players. 

- State what you think is specifically wrong in your league.: League rules state no more than 2 foreigners, it won't let me register any at all. Example, I try to register 4 and it pops up telling me I can have 2, I reduce it to 2 and the pop then changes to tell me I cannot register any. The only club who are not allowed any are Young Lions
- State how you think it should be working: It should allow me to register 2 players as I am not one of the teams with that rule in place
- State reasons/proof for your corrections/improvements

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On 2019. 11. 4. at 오전 11시 28분, FrazT said:

Because it is the weekend in the UK and the SI staff do not work at the weekend. Please be patient in the future

Why do they still not check?

 

@Freddie Sands

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In my save Australia has four teams in Asian Champions League, when it should only have three, at least in 2019 anyway. Western Sydney Wanderers were incorrectly in the playoff round.

Edited by dpt8544

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On 05/11/2019 at 12:55, Kodiak said:

Why still do not check here??

@Freddie Sands

Sorry for the late response, it's an extremely busy week for us. 

 

On 02/11/2019 at 00:26, Kodiak said:

The Korean team's roster for the 2019 AFC Champions League is strange.

Perhaps, the results of the 2017 K-League combined with the results of the 2018 KFA Cup.

(Jeonbuk, Jeju, Suwon+Daegu)

However, the results of the 2018 K-League and the 2018 KFA Cup must be combined.

(Jeonbuk, Gyeongnam, Ulsan+Daegu)

Many Korean FM users are hoping for a quick fix. I hope this deadly problem can be solved before it is officially released.

I've just done a new test game in Korea and the teams used has been updated to Joenbuk, Gyeongnam, Ulsan and Daegu. I suspect a bit of history data was missing in the League so it used the incorrect teams. Should be corrected at some point - probably the full game release. 

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1 hour ago, Dosukoi said:

Asian ranking is not correct.

AFC Country Ranking 2019
https://footyrankings.com/afc-ranking/crank2019/

 

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Hey @Dosukoi - which of these nations has the incorrect number of places? These places in the Asian Champions League are based on the nation coefficient at the end of 2017 I believe. 

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On 06/11/2019 at 07:09, dpt8544 said:

In my save Australia has four teams in Asian Champions League, when it should only have three, at least in 2019 anyway. Western Sydney Wanderers were incorrectly in the playoff round.

Hey @dpt8544 - I've been testing a couple of fixes for the Asian Champions League today and I haven't had this repeat for me, so hopefully we've solved this. 

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7 hours ago, Christopher Lewis said:

Hey @Dosukoi - which of these nations has the incorrect number of places? These places in the Asian Champions League are based on the nation coefficient at the end of 2017 I believe. 

HI,

Qatar and Japan rank clearly wrong. So, The Qatar and Japan Champions League slots are incorrect. And, I think the lower rankings are slightly different.
https://www.the-afc.com/afc/documents/PDFFiles/afc-club-competitions-ranking-2017-as-of-15-december-2017

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11 hours ago, Dosukoi said:

HI,

Qatar and Japan rank clearly wrong. So, The Qatar and Japan Champions League slots are incorrect. And, I think the lower rankings are slightly different.
https://www.the-afc.com/afc/documents/PDFFiles/afc-club-competitions-ranking-2017-as-of-15-december-2017

I was wondering why I couldn't see this problem - it's fixed internally already so they get the correct number of spaces. 

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trying to check the old unsolved bug from 2019's version and it happened again in this version

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Al hilal can field 8 foreign players, more than what the rule stated. Maybe this wont happened in the first years (2019) because lack of foreign players, but try to get on holiday for 1 year and check the matches around year 2020. (FYI, i only load Indonesian league at this test)

here's another prove:

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Sorry for long post, but Asian competitions also need some love buddy

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On 13/11/2019 at 16:17, jenggotgimbal said:

trying to check the old unsolved bug from 2019's version and it happened again in this version

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Al hilal can field 8 foreign players, more than what the rule stated. Maybe this wont happened in the first years (2019) because lack of foreign players, but try to get on holiday for 1 year and check the matches around year 2020. (FYI, i only load Indonesian league at this test)

here's another prove:

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Sorry for long post, but Asian competitions also need some love buddy

Thanks for this and the examples - they seem to just be naming whatever squad they like at the moment and ignore the foreign player rule in this competition. It's repeating for me too on my save. It's under review. 

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On 23/11/2019 at 01:49, Truegunner said:

Indian League super league has been confirmed by AFC to be the new top tier league for India, taking the I-league's AFC Champions league place: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/football/indian-super-league/top-stories/afc-approves-isl-as-top-league/articleshow/71782409.cms when will it be added to FM?

We have licensing issues and other considerations before we do, but it is something we are looking at. 

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In AFC Champions League, many clubs register over 4 foreign players in the competition, and field them all at games of the competition without limit. 

Playing K League is not funny due to this problem. 

Please fix it asap.

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1 hour ago, z857924 said:

In AFC Champions League, many clubs register over 4 foreign players in the competition, and field them all at games of the competition without limit. 

Playing K League is not funny due to this problem. 

Please fix it asap.

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We're aware of this issue and are looking at a potential solution. 

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Playing Asian Confederation Cup and noticed Indonesia has 2 team from League 3 and League 4 qualified for asian football cup instead of Persija and PSMM (as they are supposed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Liga_1 )


PSDS qualified for  AFC Champions League preliminary round 1 ( Persija is correct )

Persikubar qualified for AFC Cup group stage ( PSMM is correct )

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I was using one custom database in that save. But i only edit vietnamese leagues, dont think it affect indonesia 

Minh_Dang_Indo_AFCCup_bug.fm

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Okay. I test the game vanilla again and its fine. Maybe its because of the custom database i use but how weird its affect Indo qualification places 

 

Edited by anhminh157

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16 hours ago, anhminh157 said:

Okay. I test the game vanilla again and its fine. Maybe its because of the custom database i use but how weird its affect Indo qualification places 

 

I'll take a look anyway to see. Thanks for uploading. 

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In Bahrain, if the league winner and the cup winner are the same, the remaining continental spots go to the next best placed team in the league rather than the next best placed team in the cup.

SI are assigning the second AFC Cup spot to the cup runner up in this scenario.

There are probably the same mistakes with other leagues as well.

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On ‎12‎/‎12‎/‎2019 at 20:32, Afro_Stud said:

In Bahrain, if the league winner and the cup winner are the same, the remaining continental spots go to the next best placed team in the league rather than the next best placed team in the cup.

SI are assigning the second AFC Cup spot to the cup runner up in this scenario.

There are probably the same mistakes with other leagues as well.

Thanks for the information. 

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In my save game, I noticed there are 2 Indonesian teams from League 3 and League 4 in AFC Cup, PSDS and Persikubar.

The 2 teams that should have represented Indonesia in the 2019 AFC Cup were Persija Jakarta and PSM Makassar.

I don't use any custom database in my save game.

I have uploaded my save game under the name: Indonesia bug in AFC Cup 2019.fm

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Edited by bramcarella

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On 21/12/2019 at 23:32, bramcarella said:

In my save game, I noticed there are 2 Indonesian teams from League 3 and League 4 in AFC Cup, PSDS and Persikubar.

The 2 teams that should have represented Indonesia in the 2019 AFC Cup were Persija Jakarta and PSM Makassar.

I don't use any custom database in my save game.

I have uploaded my save game under the name: Indonesia bug in AFC Cup 2019.fm

AFC Cup_ Profile-2.png

Thanks for the save game - it's under review. 

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image.thumb.png.ab2eafcf2a67a3322dfc0c38b1438efc.pngTransfer window  in Indonesia seem broken. Says the window closes 1 Jan 1900. This is specifically for Liga 2, the Shopee Liga 1 transfer dates seem fine. 

Edited by alec6247

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20 hours ago, alec6247 said:

image.thumb.png.ab2eafcf2a67a3322dfc0c38b1438efc.pngTransfer window  in Indonesia seem broken. Says the window closes 1 Jan 1900. This is specifically for Liga 2, the Shopee Liga 1 transfer dates seem fine. 

Thanks for this - Seems to be an issue with that news item. It is under review. 

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On 14/11/2019 at 00:17, jenggotgimbal said:

trying to check the old unsolved bug from 2019's version and it happened again in this version

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Al hilal can field 8 foreign players, more than what the rule stated. Maybe this wont happened in the first years (2019) because lack of foreign players, but try to get on holiday for 1 year and check the matches around year 2020. (FYI, i only load Indonesian league at this test)

here's another prove:

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Sorry for long post, but Asian competitions also need some love buddy

This problem still not fixed in latest version... All the teams in both level of AFC competition still ignore the foreign players rules using like 6/7 foreigners in squard. this do really affect the experience of controling asians' club. 

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7 hours ago, al_hk said:

This problem still not fixed in latest version... All the teams in both level of AFC competition still ignore the foreign players rules using like 6/7 foreigners in squard. this do really affect the experience of controling asians' club. 

This is an issue we are aware of and has already been reviewed by coders, but as it will take a major change from the transfers & contracts coding team we will not be able to make a change prior to FM21 I am afraid.

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Hi, I can't understand how qualification spots for international asian cups are handled, I possibily encountered a bug.

For example in december 2020 checking Hyundai-A league rules, no qualification spots are awarded whatsoever, while they should have 1 group stage champions league spot and 2 prelminary stage spots. I found similiar things for ongoing leagues in the same period (Indian league for example), finished leagues seemed to work fine. I was thinking that maybe the qualification spots you can check are relative to the next season for each nation.

Bu then in january 2021 I get a message that Indonesia (where I an managing) will have more qualification spots available for the next season. Checking back Hyundai league and the other ongoing leagues, now they have SOME qualification spot awarded clearly in their respective rules but not all the ones they are supposed to have. Moreover, it seems strange to to me that the qualification spots awarded can evolve mid-season.  I was thinking that maybe the different starting dates of leagues and national cups complicate the picture and all of this is working properly somehow. But then now the australian league awards a group stage champions league qualification spot for the 2nd best team after regular season, nothing for the 1st and no preliminary stage spots while they should have 2 (as you can see in the attached image, sorry for the language not being english but it is easy to interpret). A qualification prize for the 2nd and nothing for 1st really baffles me. I really struggle to find explanations to all of this, are these bugs or can you kindly explain?

Thank you

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Edited by MatteoBar

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- State what you think is specifically wrong in your league.

Asian Confederations Cup Final on 24th of October 2020


- State how you think it should be working.

Asian Confederations Cup Final should be on 7th of November


- State reasons/proof for your corrections/improvements.

https://www.the-afc.com/afc/documents/PDFFiles/afc-competitions-calendar-2020

 

Edited by robosyah

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I am playing China Super League, 

and the rules said that I can register no more than 5 foreign player, and also no more than 4 foreign player(Not including Hong Kong, Macau and Chinese Taipei player).

But when I bought a Chinese Taipei player, it is counted as a foreign player and it makes me violated the 4 foreign player(Not including Hong Kong, Macau and Chinese Taipei player) rule.

It is very obviously a bug here.

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On ‎14‎/‎02‎/‎2020 at 15:36, Obaionel said:

I am playing China Super League, 

and the rules said that I can register no more than 5 foreign player, and also no more than 4 foreign player(Not including Hong Kong, Macau and Chinese Taipei player).

But when I bought a Chinese Taipei player, it is counted as a foreign player and it makes me violated the 4 foreign player(Not including Hong Kong, Macau and Chinese Taipei player) rule.

It is very obviously a bug here.

Which player is this?  Can you provide a save?  Some players will not count for this rule even if they have Hong Kong/Macau/Chinese Taipei nationality due to a rule to do with where their first professional registration was.  I realise this isn't very clear at the moment.  We already have a plan in place to make this system clearer and better for FM21.

 

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