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1 hour ago, AlienIR said:

Merci. 

J'ai parle au dev, la plupart sont des limitations (ex augmentation des droits tv en saison 2).

Je testerais ce week-end mais dans mes derniers tests, les clubs generaient des budgets transferts coherent en saison 1,2 et suivantes (en prenant reference les rappports DNCG). Ceci peut s'expliquer par le fait que toutes les vraies depenses IRL des clubs sont loin d'etre representables dans le jeu ( par exemple, le jeu est loin de pouvoir representer l'ensemble des personnes remunerees par le club). L'un dans l'autre un 'equilibre' est atteint pour l'instant.

Mais encore une fois je testerais ce week-end. Le plus important etant de nous assurer que les budgets restent equilibres. Si tu augmentes les incomes alors que les depenses ne sont pas realistes tu auras un probleme d'equilibre.

Ca merite d'etre teste. Toutefois, cela demande du temps.

j'ai essayé de trouver quelque lien pour pouvoir vous aider

https://rmcsport.bfmtv.com/football/ligue-1-l-explosion-des-droits-tv-une-aubaine-surtout-pour-les-petits-1732666.html

http://www.madeinfoot.com/infos/article-l1-la-repartition-des-droits-tv-en-2018-2019-275483.html

https://www.90min.com/fr/posts/6359910-la-repartition-des-droits-tv-dans-les-5-grands-championnats-europeens

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Merci @lookiluk, comme je t'ai explique, le changement de droit tv a partir de la saison 2020/2021 est une limitation, nous ne pouvons rien faire de ce cote la.

 

Pour mieux t'expliquer, voici comment est calculee la repartition des droits tv IRL

https://www.lesechos.fr/2018/05/foot-comment-sont-repartis-les-droits-tv-en-france-991358

La part fixe/ la license club / le classement sont representes dans les parties. Ce qui manque c'est la notoriete et le calcul sur les 5 dernieres saison, qui elles aussi sont des limitations (demandes effectues en 2015 aux devs).

 

Mais encore une fois, de l'autre cote de la balance (les depenses clubs) tu as la meme problematique. Les depenses IRL et ingame ne sont pas les memes (ingame elles sont plus basses). Il nous est impossible de toutes les representer pour differentes raisons (eg roles non disponibles, roles non representables, infos non disponibles (ex primes)…) .

Certes les incomes sont plus bas qu'IRL a cause des limitations mais c'est le cas aussi pour les depenses. Encore une fois, les budgets transferts generes par les clubs sont assez coherents (si on les compare a ceux donnes par la dncg.) . Encore une fois, je vais retester ce point, mais en beta cela semblait coherent. Si quelques chose ressort des tests, nous verrons alors si nous pouvons faire quelque chose. Mais augmenter les droits tv sans contrebalancer les depenses (non representables) menerait a detruire l'equilibre des parties tout simplement. Je n'ai aucune envie de voir des clubs de bas de L1 generer 30 Millions de budget par exemple, ce ne serait pas realiste non plus.

 

Tout ce qui est limitation nous ne pouvons rien faire malheureusement, tu m'en vois le premier desole. 

 

J'espere que le feedback te sera utile.

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Le 21/11/2019 à 17:24, AlienIR a dit :

Yeah @navas27, it's probably doable, but tbh not sure how it could be done. Could be also not doable.

Don't worry the issue is under review, which means it would be fixed ingame at some point.

all right :)  i'm waiting this to be achieved before starting to play ;) 

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On 23/11/2019 at 11:22, navas27 said:

all right :)  i'm waiting this to be achieved before starting to play ;) 

Thanks for your patience, shouldn't be too long hopefully. You may still play just to get used to the new game. I'll keep you in touch asap.

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I have zero black regens in France in 5 years, very unrealistic. Can this be fixed with an editor. Please make notice of this problem, the previous editions were good with the origins, hope this can be fixed. 

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Currently in 2023 (just after the winter world cup)

Noticed this particular calendar

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One game every 2 days is may be a bit harsh ;)

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Summary: Ligue 1 Loan Rules appear to be broken 

Description of Issue: Im managing in Italy (So a foreign club under the rules) and am trying to renew a loan for William Geubbels from AS Monaco. This loan is getting cancelled as it says Monaco would be breaking the rules that say no more than 7 players OVER the age of 22 can be loaned to foreign clubs in one season. I think this is broken on 2 fronts. 

1. This is a loan renewal so if he was allowed last season, he should already be taking up one of the slots and therefore be able to "renew" his position in that slot. 

2. William Geubbels is currently 19 years old in game so he definitely isn't over the age of 22 and should not count towards the slot either way. 
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Steps to Reproduce: Try renewing a loan of a player under the age of 22 from a club that has filled out their "Over the age of 22 Foreign loans" slots.  In my uploaded save just try renew the loan for Geubbels and it should happen and cancel the loan. 

Save Game: Version 2.1.4. Uploaded to cloud as Brian A***** - Livorno.fm (can PM name if needed)

 

EDIT: Appears this happens with any team that has these restrictions. Had it with Man City too (exact same issue other than that). Not sure where to post this now?

Edited by Brian 95

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It's a problem with Coupe de France. Teams from overseas territories can select only 4 players as citizens of New Caledonia, Reunion etc. are counted as foreigners.

Also there are new rules regarding these teams.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019–20_Coupe_de_France#Notable_rule_changes

http://www.foot-national.com/foot-coupe-de-france-la-revolution-pour-l-outre-mer-121206.html

https://www.footamateur.fr/coupe-de-france-fini-les-voyages-en-martinique-guadeloupe-et-guyane-au-septieme-tour/

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Hello.

I finished in third place the first season with Lyon and that should have gave me a place in the Champions League Qualification round but instead i went straight to the group stage? Known bug?

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11 hours ago, pontaruff said:

Hello.

I finished in third place the first season with Lyon and that should have gave me a place in the Champions League Qualification round but instead i went straight to the group stage? Known bug?

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Good morning - Could I get this save game please? Don't think this is a known issue and would like to take a look. Thanks. 

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10 hours ago, Christopher Lewis said:

Good morning - Could I get this save game please? Don't think this is a known issue and would like to take a look. Thanks. 

How do i attach a save-file? I can only attach a file with the size 9.77 mb, the save-file is 178 mb. Edit: I found out how. Save-file incoming.

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10 hours ago, Christopher Lewis said:

Good morning - Could I get this save game please? Don't think this is a known issue and would like to take a look. Thanks. 

Lyon! pontaruff.fm is the name of the save-file. Did I do it right?

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Hey @pontaruff - We've figured out why this has happened. When the Champions League winner and the Europa League winner both qualify for the Champions League group stage through their domestic league, it changes the qualification places. As France is the 5th ranked nation, they are the nation that benefits. It actually happened with the Champions League this year with Liverpool and Chelsea both Qualifying for the Group Stage. (Below copied from Wikipedia as it's a good explanation.)

  • In the default access list, the Champions League title holders qualify for the group stage. However, since the Champions League title holders (Liverpool) have qualified via their domestic league (as second place in the 2018–19 Premier League), the following changes to the access list were made:
    • The champions of association 11 (Austria) entered the group stage instead of the play-off round.
    • The champions of association 13 (Czech Republic) entered the play-off round instead of the third qualifying round.
    • The champions of association 15 (Greece) entered the third qualifying round instead of the second qualifying round.
    • The champions of associations 18 and 19 (Israel and Cyprus) entered the second qualifying round instead of the first qualifying round.
  • In the default access list, the Europa League title holders qualify for the group stage. However, since the Europa League title holders (Chelsea) qualified for the group stage via their domestic league (as third place in the 2018–19 Premier League), the following changes to the access list were made:
    • The third-placed team of association 5 (France) entered the group stage instead of the third qualifying round.
    • The runners-up of associations 10 and 11 (Turkey and Austria) entered the third qualifying round instead of the second qualifying round.

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10 minutes ago, Christopher Lewis said:

Hey @pontaruff - We've figured out why this has happened. When the Champions League winner and the Europa League winner both qualify for the Champions League group stage through their domestic league, it changes the qualification places. As France is the 5th ranked nation, they are the nation that benefits. It actually happened with the Champions League this year with Liverpool and Chelsea both Qualifying for the Group Stage. (Below copied from Wikipedia as it's a good explanation.)

  • In the default access list, the Champions League title holders qualify for the group stage. However, since the Champions League title holders (Liverpool) have qualified via their domestic league (as second place in the 2018–19 Premier League), the following changes to the access list were made:
    • The champions of association 11 (Austria) entered the group stage instead of the play-off round.
    • The champions of association 13 (Czech Republic) entered the play-off round instead of the third qualifying round.
    • The champions of association 15 (Greece) entered the third qualifying round instead of the second qualifying round.
    • The champions of associations 18 and 19 (Israel and Cyprus) entered the second qualifying round instead of the first qualifying round.
  • In the default access list, the Europa League title holders qualify for the group stage. However, since the Europa League title holders (Chelsea) qualified for the group stage via their domestic league (as third place in the 2018–19 Premier League), the following changes to the access list were made:
    • The third-placed team of association 5 (France) entered the group stage instead of the third qualifying round.
    • The runners-up of associations 10 and 11 (Turkey and Austria) entered the third qualifying round instead of the second qualifying round.

Aaa I see! Thank you very much. 

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