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23 hours ago, pickyimp said:

Good spot. I’ll amend that in Jan. i haven’t updated him since he arrive from Bristol City researcher.

Class for Wales tonight.

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On 06/11/2019 at 20:35, Robbie51991 said:

Dylan Crowe of Ipswich Town - he should be English international and not Jamaica.

 

Hi Robbie

 

Dylan is set as English but with 2nd naionality of Jamaica as he has requested - not sure there is anything I can do stop him being called up by Jamaica

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On 13/11/2019 at 20:55, Cegidog said:

Since you asked...

Is Harry Brockbank not a right back ? That's the only position I've seen him play for Wanderers.

Thanks

He has filled in there on occasion so would do a job. Has also played as a DM at times for the u23s

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On 12/11/2019 at 22:58, Bearded Shrimper said:

I'll disagree on Acquah and McLaughlin. Acquah has been picked by our last four managers and is a pretty regular member of the match day squad. While I get we have injuries all four of those managers keep putting him on the pitch. I'd argue there is a reason they keep doing that.

McLaughlin played wide right for a whole year under Powell and has played there since. I'm not arguing he should be perfectly suited to it but it is a historical fact that he's played there and is pretty comfortable there. In fact, the last time we were good was when he played there.

Notwithstanding the stuff we've disagreed on, how are you finding tweaks to final DB? Hoping a bit more characteristic of the squad?

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Milton Keynes Dons

Mike Dove - no longer HOYD as he left the club in August 2018 (hopefully this is a valid link: http://ucscspurs.com/communities/2/004/013/642/922/files/4635923309.pdf employment details towards the bottom)

Luke Williams - new assistant manager although I think this was too late for the data cut anyway  (https://www.mkdons.com/news/2019/november/williams-appointed-assistant-manager/

Dean Thornton - based on his Twitter profile, he ended his GK coaching role at Chinese Taipei when he joined MK Dons (https://twitter.com/DMTkeepers)

Based upon MK Dons' website (https://www.mkdons.com/teams/staff/), perhaps Jon Goodman is now HOYD (or under-18 Manager) and Simon Dwight is under-18 assistant manager? Both are listed are first-team coaches in FM20

Finally, not 100% sure but I think Steve Perryman was part of Paul Tisdale's team so may have left with him. 

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Gervane Kastaneer (Coventry) has set 3 international games for The Netherlands. This is wrong and should be Curaçao with The Netherlands as his second nationality.

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14 hours ago, rhys0204 said:

RE: Incorrect capacity for the Pirelli Stadium

See the info on the official EFL site listing the capacity as 6,912 not 6,972 as is in the game.

 

https://www.efl.com/clubs-and-competitions/sky-bet-league-one/clubs/burton-albion/

The capacity in the game is as approved by the EFL and as listed in the EFL Official Handbook.

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WIKI also has this at 6912

https://www.google.com/search?q=burton+ground+cAPACITY&oq=burton+ground+cAPACITY&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l2.7934j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

as does football ground guide

https://www.footballgroundguide.com/leagues/england/league-one/pirelli-stadium-burton-albion.html

and away guide

https://www.awaygames.co.uk/away-day-guides/burton-albion-away/

I think the Pirelli stadium has undergone changes since being built. Only one can be right, perhaps the Burton researcher could double check?

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Can you please update Peterborough's Ricky-Jade Jones's Acceleration and Pace.

The boy is rapid. Should have 18 or 19 for both stats.

Also update his position from midfielder to striker, as he is a striker.

 

 

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22 hours ago, RKM said:

Can you please update Peterborough's Ricky-Jade Jones's Acceleration and Pace.

The boy is rapid. Should have 18 or 19 for both stats.

Also update his position from midfielder to striker, as he is a striker.

 

 

1. You will need to give more evidence for paces and acceleration e.g. is he faster than slower than x who has Y. At 18/19 you suggest he is one of the fastest people in the world who plays football, is this correct?

2. You need to be a lot clearer than this regarding his position. Each position has a 1-20 option. I believe he can play in midfield and up front but in what positions. There are 4 positions up front and 4 in midfield

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Edmunds will not appear in the winter update.

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23 minutes ago, MrPompey said:

Have you added a facepack or is this standard FM. In either case it will be images associated with an incorrect staff id

It's the right face, but wrong DoB that he's getting at ;). If he was born in 2001, he got married at 11 going by an erm, facebook stalk. He was born on the 5th of August, but no idea of the year, but I'd hazard a guess at around 1980 to 85, if I was doing Oxford.

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On ‎13‎/‎01‎/‎2020 at 11:05, MrPompey said:

WIKI also has this at 6912

https://www.google.com/search?q=burton+ground+cAPACITY&oq=burton+ground+cAPACITY&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l2.7934j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

as does football ground guide

https://www.footballgroundguide.com/leagues/england/league-one/pirelli-stadium-burton-albion.html

and away guide

https://www.awaygames.co.uk/away-day-guides/burton-albion-away/

I think the Pirelli stadium has undergone changes since being built. Only one can be right, perhaps the Burton researcher could double check?

The capacity in the game is the one that the EFL, as our licensing partner, advise upon and approve.

That is the end of the matter,

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12 minutes ago, Giro said:

It's the right face, but wrong DoB that he's getting at ;). If he was born in 2001, he got married at 11 going by an erm, facebook stalk. He was born on the 5th of August, but no idea of the year, but I'd hazard a guess at around 1980 to 85, if I was doing Oxford.

ahhh my mistake :D

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18 minutes ago, Gripper said:

The capacity in the game is the one that the EFL, as our licensing partner, advise upon and approve.

That is the end of the matter,

@Gripper Im trying to help here Dean and so is the other guy. Lets work on that basis going forward this is what we try to do.

If the EFL has the final word then is 6912 as I have said

https://www.efl.com/clubs-and-competitions/sky-bet-league-one/clubs/burton-albion/

 

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1 hour ago, MrPompey said:

Have you added a facepack or is this standard FM. In either case it will be images associated with an incorrect staff id

I do use a facepack, but the face is right. The reason I linked to his LinkedIn was to show that he is probably not 17.

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1 hour ago, MrPompey said:

@Gripper Im trying to help here Dean and so is the other guy. Lets work on that basis going forward this is what we try to do.

If the EFL has the final word then is 6912 as I have said

https://www.efl.com/clubs-and-competitions/sky-bet-league-one/clubs/burton-albion/

 

Their Handbook states 6972, and our contact at the EFL, in a senior role within their licensing team, have confirmed to me that is accurate.
 

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1 hour ago, NikolajDrejer said:

I do use a facepack, but the face is right. The reason I linked to his LinkedIn was to show that he is probably not 17.

He is not an eligible person to be in the game, and will not be included in the database for the update. His profile is being deleted. Therefore, it is not an issue any more.

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On 10/02/2020 at 11:28, MrPompey said:

1. You will need to give more evidence for paces and acceleration e.g. is he faster than slower than x who has Y. At 18/19 you suggest he is one of the fastest people in the world who plays football, is this correct?

2. You need to be a lot clearer than this regarding his position. Each position has a 1-20 option. I believe he can play in midfield and up front but in what positions. There are 4 positions up front and 4 in midfield

Hi,

1. For players that play at League 1 / League 2 level, he is quicker then Elliot List (Stevenage) Accerleration 16, Pace 15 and on par with Alex Kiwomya (Doncaster Rovers) Acceleration 19, Pace 17 but not as quick as Tyler Magloire (Rochdale AFC on loan from Blackburn Rovers) Acceleration 20, Pace 20. 

2. Positions are ST (C) & AM(RLC).

Quotes from various media articles below describing his position and attributes;

"Liverpool, Leicester, Manchester City and Arsenal have also made checks on the lightning quick youngster who can play through the middle or out wide."

"A deep-lying defence is not what teenage speedster Ricky-Jade Jones wants so a starting place for the youngster is unlikely."

"Liverpool, Leicester, Arsenal and Manchester City are also thought to be keeping tabs on Peterborough's speedy striker."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/10393240/spurs-transfers-poch-exit-peterborough/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7727459/Man-United-Tottenham-Liverpool-clubs-race-Peterboroughs-Ricky-Jade-Jones.html

https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/sport/football/peterborough-united/peterborough-united-comment-how-complete-six-wins-row-seal-place-top-two-score-four-goals-three-successive-football-league-matches-first-time-60-years-and-yet-still-be-disappointed-because-one-player-so-vital-teams

https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/peterborough-united-chairman-buzzing-latest-crop-club-youngsters-come-good-and-rookie-ricky-thought-have-broken-posh-record-1311278

 

 

 

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How much have you seen of List, Kiwomya and Magloire? 

 

 

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Ricky-Jade Jones has been considered, as has every L1 player, for the forthcoming update. Thanks for your concern.

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3 hours ago, bluearmy13 said:

@MrPompey Out of interest has there been any updates to Pompey players or staff in the recent update?

Every player has been considered, and Portsmouth are no exception.

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On 20/02/2020 at 16:08, bluearmy13 said:

@MrPompey Out of interest has there been any updates to Pompey players or staff in the recent update?

As Gripper says yes I have made updates and these are now in the FM & data update issued this week. Take a look :)

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Siriki Dembele should have his brother, Karamoko, listed in Favoured Personnel. Karamoko currently does.

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5 minutes ago, lbowman6 said:

Yes, good shout. I missed this. he only lasted 9 months!

@Gripper

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Good afternoon,

As per the attached link, Jodi Jones (Coventry City) winter should have Malta as his second nation. There are apparently on-going talks for him to represent Malta.

https://www.transfermarkt.com.mt/jodi-jones/profil/spieler/354695
 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jodi_Jones_(footballer)
 

Many thanks,

Stuart

 

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Middlesbrough's club record for most overall goals by a player in a season is not filled, only the most league goals record. Perhaps it's possible to find out how many goals George Camsell scored in cups etc. in the 1926/27 season as that's likely the record.

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Matt Olosunde at Rotherham position is a bit wrong I think. He is rated with 15 for defender central, but he hasn't played there a lot, at NYRB academy he played as a right back and  occasionally as a right midfielder, when representing USA youth nats, he played at right back. The same at Manchester United and Rotherham United. Maybe the attirbute should be lowered. Also he has started as a righ mid a few matches for Rotherham United, maybe up that position a bit?

Also having seen him a few times and all I read about him is that he has really fast, the description of him is that he has wicked pace, maybe 13 in acceleration and 14 in pace is a few numbers low?

Also there is alot of attributes blanked, but maybe crossing should be around ten as he is a quite decent crosser at the level he plays. Positionig maybe 7 or 8 as he do seem a bit out of postion at times. ALso preffered moves maybe he should have gets forward whenever possible? He is described as an attack minded player.

 

Maybe in career plans he should have set that he wants to play in the MLS, as he say so himself:

https://www.espn.com/soccer/united-states-usa/story/3995770/matthew-olosunde-learned-from-the-best-at-man-united-nowhis-return-to-usmntmls-goes-through-rotherham

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14 hours ago, Number seven said:

Matt Olosunde at Rotherham position is a bit wrong I think. He is rated with 15 for defender central, but he hasn't played there a lot, at NYRB academy he played as a right back and  occasionally as a right midfielder, when representing USA youth nats, he played at right back. The same at Manchester United and Rotherham United. Maybe the attirbute should be lowered. Also he has started as a righ mid a few matches for Rotherham United, maybe up that position a bit?

Also having seen him a few times and all I read about him is that he has really fast, the description of him is that he has wicked pace, maybe 13 in acceleration and 14 in pace is a few numbers low?

Also there is alot of attributes blanked, but maybe crossing should be around ten as he is a quite decent crosser at the level he plays. Positionig maybe 7 or 8 as he do seem a bit out of postion at times. ALso preffered moves maybe he should have gets forward whenever possible? He is described as an attack minded player.

 

Maybe in career plans he should have set that he wants to play in the MLS, as he say so himself:

https://www.espn.com/soccer/united-states-usa/story/3995770/matthew-olosunde-learned-from-the-best-at-man-united-nowhis-return-to-usmntmls-goes-through-rotherham

I'd personally say he's pretty spot on in all the areas you've mentioned. 7/8 positioning would be very harsh and his crossing rating for a FB in L1 is about right.

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9 hours ago, matt_neil41 said:

I'd personally say he's pretty spot on in all the areas you've mentioned. 7/8 positioning would be very harsh and his crossing rating for a FB in L1 is about right.

Man you haven't seen his profile I guess and maybe you should have checked the profile before saying something is spot on, as both positioning and crossing are set to zero ( I said blanked in the post)  in the DB, so obviously he can't be spot on. Positiong at 7 or 8 might be harsh, but he uses his pace to make up for positional mistakes, so I think my suggestions are fair. They are at least closer to the spot than zero.

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To be fair I loaded up a game where it had loaded it in rather than the actual database.

I've watched every game he's played in this season and think 7 or 8 is too low.

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Well you do research so you probably know this a bit better than me. After reading my post it sounded harsh, that was not the intention, sorry about that. Hopefully he will be fully researched next version.

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10 hours ago, Number seven said:

Well you do research so you probably know this a bit better than me. After reading my post it sounded harsh, that was not the intention, sorry about that. Hopefully he will be fully researched next version.

That's fine and everyone's entitled to an opinion, just passing on my views having watched him incredibly closely this season.

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Just heard a podcast with Danish throw in coach Thomas Grønnemark.

He said that Mads Bech Sørensen of Brentford/AFC Wimbledon is one of the best long throwers he has worked with. 

He's already at 15 in the data so the researcher agrees that he's good at it, but based on the numbers he mentioned Mads Bech Sørensen should be in the 18-20 region.

Furthermore, please move "Bech" from his first name to his last name so it reads "Bech Sørensen". "Bech" is a Danish last name.

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Portsmouth don't have a U23 team and U19 team. We have a U20's academy with a direct path into the first team after that hence the amount of good players released but wasn't ready to break into the squad when they pass the age of 20. I would love to see this implemented in future FMs. 
 

This isn’t a massive deal but if it can be changed, it would give us Portsmouth fans a closer feel to the club.

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In Dean Lewington's history it has him down as playing 46 times scoring 1 goal for Wimbledon in the 2000/01 season. He didn't actually make his first appearance for them until the 02/03 season.

Also it appears his 03/04 appearance data is incorrect as he actually played 28 league games scoring 1 goal, the other three appearances were in the FA Cup. https://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=34865&season_id=133

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Every year my enjoyment of FM is spoiled a bit by what I think is an underestimation of the potential fan base of Bristol Rovers.

Bristol is one of the larger cities in the country and whenever Bristol Rovers get to Wembley, they take around 40000 fans with them (see the fairly recent National League play-off final as an example.

I have taken Rovers into the top 6 of the Premier League and into Europe for the past 5 years? Winning the Europa and UEFA2 leagues along the way. 

However, the board will not expand the stadium, or build a new one because of a lack of fan base so I am stuck at an 18.5k capacity. 

I feel this is unrealistic and that, in a large city like Bristol, a sustained decade of success in the top flight, would bring the crowds flocking and increase the fan base too.

Thanks.

Jim

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I just listened to a Shrewsbury Town (Salopcast) podcast, where they interviewed Sam Ricketts (Manager), which leads me to suggesting the following under club vision:

Offering 3 year contracts (seems to be an exception for League One) 

Prefer to sign players aged 27 and under 

Develop players using the youth system (all these leading to selling players for profit to reinvest into the team/youth system/club as a whole)

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On 02/07/2020 at 14:35, Mourby x said:

Portsmouth don't have a U23 team and U19 team. We have a U20's academy with a direct path into the first team after that hence the amount of good players released but wasn't ready to break into the squad when they pass the age of 20. I would love to see this implemented in future FMs. 
 

This isn’t a massive deal but if it can be changed, it would give us Portsmouth fans a closer feel to the club.

At Portsmouth we have a 1st Team Squad, no u23 but an U18 development squad. The reality of this is that in real life we try to loan out all our players that would otherwise be in a Portsmouth U23 side. Those left or outside of the 1st team squad may get some playing time in games such as Leasing Cup. Catlin has said it would take a large investment to run an U23 side correctly and properly. I can't see this happening until we are a stable Championship side. However the potential new wage caps may mean that as U23 players dont count we may invest more in this. Eisner has indicated he wants the club self sufficient and developing more home grown talent. Adam May is possibly one that we have let go of as we cant maintain an U23 side of players between Development and 1st team squads

In FM, Pompey is set so that 1st Team and U18 have sides entered in leagues. Portsmouth are not entered into a U23 league but they do generate FM friendlies allowing 1st squad players to play in U23 matches and fitness maintained for players in the  U23 "squad" not loaned out. You could also move stronger U18 players into "U23s" to see how they do

There is no FM reason why you cant bring U18 players into the 1st team to blood them or to play in Cup matches and then put them back

In terms of what you propose Im not quite sure what you are suggesting. The realities of players release in real life is the Manager's, the same as it is for the FM manager

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On 30/07/2020 at 18:09, jimads75 said:

Every year my enjoyment of FM is spoiled a bit by what I think is an underestimation of the potential fan base of Bristol Rovers.

Bristol is one of the larger cities in the country and whenever Bristol Rovers get to Wembley, they take around 40000 fans with them (see the fairly recent National League play-off final as an example.

I have taken Rovers into the top 6 of the Premier League and into Europe for the past 5 years? Winning the Europa and UEFA2 leagues along the way. 

However, the board will not expand the stadium, or build a new one because of a lack of fan base so I am stuck at an 18.5k capacity. 

I feel this is unrealistic and that, in a large city like Bristol, a sustained decade of success in the top flight, would bring the crowds flocking and increase the fan base too.

Thanks.

Jim

One off games like visits to Wembley dont really count for much, its the week in / week out home attendances that count but I see what you mean about potential. What you point out in FM is something a lot of the LLM managers highlight when taking smaller supported clubs to the premiership and greater success

In 2018/19 you averaged 8320. Here is an interesting post about Rovers attendances:

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/gasheads-gone-bristol-rovers-crowds-3297869

Looking at the FM club stats for the Memorial ground it currently shows average 8933, minimum 3,000 and max 22,000 so your average in the game is perhaps higher than reality. I think the issue is that the FM game doesnt scale up as would be expected for clubs being FM managed to top level success. This would be worth raising in the FM Future enhancements thread. The issue has been raised several times in the forums

Also note that the 2019/20 average attendances for Leicester, Wolves and Sheff Utd was between 24-25k

 

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