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Am 2.11.2019 um 17:47 schrieb autohoratio:

Can I ask who the Germany researchers are? They don't seem to be active at all on the forums which I find concerning as there is no response to issues/feedback brought up by users.

AFAIK the first two leagues are managed by a single guy, Kox. Glad to see how active this thread has become, as the german database has been absolutely awful ever since i started playing, and the people at meistertrainerforum seem very inclinced not to add any new researchers beyond the Regionalligen. It is strange because the norm seems to be 1 Team = 1 Researcher, for germany it doesn't seem to count though

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Timo Werner:

Determination - 12, Finishing - 14, Flair - 11 Passing - 11, Teamwork - 10, Technique - 11

Feel Werner isn't being represented as the top-class striker he is proving IRL and previous seasons in FM20. He scored a hat-trick and made a hat-trick of assists in his last Bundesliga match against Mainz alone.

13 goals in 15 games for Leipzig so far this season.

Surely some of the stats indicated above deserve a slight boost?

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4 hours ago, Nikopol said:

AFAIK the first two leagues are managed by a single guy, Kox. Glad to see how active this thread has become, as the german database has been absolutely awful ever since i started playing, and the people at meistertrainerforum seem very inclinced not to add any new researchers beyond the Regionalligen. It is strange because the norm seems to be 1 Team = 1 Researcher, for germany it doesn't seem to count though

It's not the decision of the community, it's the decision of the HR.

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6 minutes ago, stefg_FCB said:

It's not the decision of the community, it's the decision of the HR.

Some would say, the HR is part of the community. Without being able to evaluate the situation of the German DB it seems reasonable to add new researches if the team is not well staffed and this factor is leading to mistakes in the DB.

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Some team names in 2. Bundesliga are not completly correct:

"Karlsruhe" is called "Karlsruher SC"

"Osnabrück" is called "VfL Osnabrück"

"Wiesbaden" is called "SV Wehen Wiesbaden"

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Chemnitzer FC stadium is listed as Commerzbank-Arena Frankfurt in game.

Chemnitzer's stadium is Stadion an der Gellerstraße.

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https://www.kicker.de/761761/artikel/football_manager_2020_die_bundesliga_muss_besser_werden

 

Even Kicker points at DB weaknesses (even though quite cautiously)

One can only hope that DB research grows more transparent and professional in germany. I exaggerated with Kox' leadership over the league, as he only manages most of the first division. But a single guy managing (in total, if meistertrainerforums data is correct) roughly 20 clubs in the first three leagues is inacceptable. The ratings given to players in the BL seem very much "calculated", as in that they are sort of derived after a subjective ranking of people's qualities in comparisons to another, while of course what makes players interesting is a much more qualtitative approach, where they are rated for their unique qualities. This is simply much more likely to happen when each Bundesliga-team has a dedicated researcher. If I understand correctly the researchers have the tools to keep the ratings in check with the overall quality of the teams and the league.

 

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Sebastian Kehl shouldn't really be a Borussia Dortmund Director. His job is the 'players licence department director', which is more akin to a technical director. He should probably have a usable profile in game. Thanks. 

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13 hours ago, JWebxx said:

Some team names in 2. Bundesliga are not completly correct:

"Karlsruhe" is called "Karlsruher SC"

"Osnabrück" is called "VfL Osnabrück"

"Wiesbaden" is called "SV Wehen Wiesbaden"

Those are the short names, they do have their full names in the game too. The names we use are provided to us by the Bundesliga.

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@Simon Tipple Can you provide info on this? As others have mentioned, the general quality of the German database is haphazard and many changes have been missed. There has been no communication on here from German researchers.
 

On 02/11/2019 at 16:47, autohoratio said:

Can I ask who the Germany researchers are? They don't seem to be active at all on the forums which I find concerning as there is no response to issues/feedback brought up by users.

 

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3 minutes ago, autohoratio said:

@Simon Tipple Can you provide info on this? As others have mentioned, the general quality of the German database is haphazard and many changes have been missed. There has been no communication on here from German researchers.
 

 

Our head researcher is very good. He's away this week, which is unfortunate timing, but I'll be looking at all of the posts here and updating as much as I can.

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Marek Mintal is the new caretaker manager of 1.FC Nürnberg and will succeed to Damir Canadi and Erik Orie.

 

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On 31/10/2019 at 17:43, Bigpole said:

Done.

On 31/10/2019 at 19:34, autohoratio said:

1. FC Kaiserslautern - Michael Clemens was released at the end of 18/19 season and is retired as a player, now working as 1. FC Köln U19 data analysist. In-game he's still in 1FCK's first team... I'm not sure how this was missed.

Kevin McKenna is Schommers' assistant manager, I don't know what the status of Alexander Bugera is as I haven't seen him in training videos or club images since Schommers took charge.

Mohamed Morabet (central/attacking midfield) is missing from the game, he has been training with the first team squad since last winter and should be included in the FCK II squad, ahead of Anil Aydin in the pecking order as he's not incredibly far from the first team, but not quite ready yet.

Carlo Sickinger should probably be upgraded from competent at DC to accomplished, as when he's been utilised there he looks very comfortable (compare to Gino Fechner who has accomplished status there, and hasn't excelled there)

(edit) Timmy Thiele should probably be given improved competency as AMR, to reflect his current playing position.

(edit) Antonio Jonjic is missing 1899 Hoffenheim (2012-13 season) from his playing history

Appreciate some of these are subjective so might not be included.

 

(edit) SC Fortuna Köln - I think Yannick Filipovic (central defender) should be included into the game, he's made 2 appearances as a substitute in the regional division (vs BMG II and Lotte) and has been included in the matchday squad several other times, as well as playing in the regional association cup.

Have retired Clemens, do you have a link to show he's now working as an U19 Data Analyst?

McKenna is set as Assistant in the DB, as is Bugera. The website suggests Bugera is still and assistant, but have changed him to a coach.

I've added Morabet and Filipovic.

Jonjic's 2012 history isn't really needed, we'd usually only go back as far as their club at 16 years old.

Will leave the subjective suggestions for the researcher to consider.

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On 31/10/2019 at 21:30, opgen22 said:

First Glance Issue with Schalke: The Chairman is Clemens Tönnies, which is perfectly fine. However, then the confusion starts. In game, Peter Peters is then listed as the 'managing director', while in real life, he is only responsible for the finance department. You can leave him like that, but then the member of the managing board who is responsible for sports, Jochen Schneider, is completely missing.  

https://schalke04.de/en/club/fc-schalke-04/offices-and-councils/managing-board/ 

https://www.transfermarkt.com/jochen-schneider/profil/trainer/30733

To make him a viewable member, I'd suggest to make him the 'Sporting Director' instead of Michael Reschke, who fits into the new role of the 'technical director", which he also is in real life. 

https://www.transfermarkt.com/michael-reschke/profil/trainer/8086

Thanks, added and updated.

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On 31/10/2019 at 22:41, autohoratio said:

SSV Jahn Regensberg - Tomislav Kraljevic has a wage of only €120p/w, this seems far too low for a 23 year old in a 2. Bundesliga team. I don't know any specifics regarding his real-life wage but I'd expect it to be at least €750.

Fixed

On 01/11/2019 at 06:07, Nick Abbott said:

Benjamin Hoffmann no longer working as Dortmund Under 19 Manager

Moved to Mainz 05 in summer to work as Under 19s Manager

https://www.bvb.de/eng/News/Overview/Benjamin-Hoffmann-joins-Mainz-05

Done

On 01/11/2019 at 08:32, Janni.Martin said:

Done

On 01/11/2019 at 13:28, Dome_ElGamba said:

Some things are wrong with German side VfB Stuttgart (2nd division):

 

- Wolfgang Dietrich stepped down as president of VfB Stuttgart some time ago already, the new president will be elected on 15th of december 2019. The tenure of that new president will be until summer 2020 when the next meeting of members will take place.

https://www.vfb.de/de/vfb/aktuell/neues/verein/2019/ruecktritt-wolfgang-dietrich/

https://www.vfb.de/de/vfb/aktuell/neues/verein/2019/vfb-stuttgart-1893-e-v--sucht-neuen-praesidenten-und-mitglied-des-vereinsbeirats/

 

- In the transfer history of the club it says Daniel Schwaab left the club in 2019 on a free transfer although he left years ago already (probably down to the fact his contract at PSV Eindhoven ran out and he signed a new contract at PSV a few weeks later - in his player profile his transfer history is correct)

 

- It also says in the transfer history of the club that Atakan Karazor and Hamai Al Ghaddioui joined from Holstein Kiel 2nd team and Jahn Regensburg 2nd team respectively but both joined from the respective first teams

 

- Thomas Hitzlsperger isn't sports director, he's CEO (since a few weeks ago) and head of sports (since february)

 

- Sven Mislintat is sports director, not chief scout

Updated Dietrich. So should Hitzlsperger be the new Chairman as suggested here: https://www.vfb.de/en/vfb/latest/news/club/2019/thomas-hitzlsperger-vorstandsvorsitzender/ ?

Updated Mislintat to Director of Football.

Fixed the histories for Karazor and Al Ghaddioui.

The Schwaab issue - the data is correct, so that issue is for a coder to look at. Would you mind reporting that in the Transfers, Contracts, Scouting and Staff Responsibilities forum please?

 

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On 01/11/2019 at 13:37, Bigpole said:

Jonathan Benteke - Alemania Aachen

Sascha Schünemann - Hansa Rostock
Kevin Bönisch - FC Oberlausitz Neugersdorf
Hendrik Ostermann - SV Eichede

 

Done, transfer dates/contract end dates would be handy if you have them?

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On 01/11/2019 at 13:57, DCrules said:

Removed.

On 01/11/2019 at 13:58, AntiLope said:

I have found some inaccuracies and mistakes on Werder Bremen

Werder Bremen has no "Technic director" although Thomas Schaaf was introduced as Technical Director end of april 2018.  (https://www.werder.de/en/news/news/werder-bremen-news/20172018/schaaf-technical-director-30042018) *Edit: Maybe it fit's better as Loan Manager: "Thomas Schaaf in this position will be key in dovetailing between the professional and development sectors." 

Also Iliya Gruev is named as assistant-manager, but doesn't have the skills of an assistant manager, while Thomas Horsch, listed as Coach, has the skills of an assistant manager. It should be Horsch as Assistant Manager and Gruev and Borowski as Coaches.

Dieter Eilts is not part of the coachstaff at Werder Bremen, but was head of Werders football school until august 2018 and then left the club (https://www.weser-kurier.de/werder/werder-bundesliga_artikel,-eilts-verlaesst-werder-_arid,1746575.html)

Mirko Votava gets sacked as assistant manager of Werder II but is actually scout of the second team (https://www.werder.de/de/teams/u23/trainerstab/) Actually the overview of the second team looks quite buggy to me (can't choose staff directly in the menu) and the whole status as "affiliated club" is quite difficult since it is the second team and not another club.

HSV should not just be "other rival" but "fierce rival" in view of the history of the fans of the two clubs.

At last a few little details on Numbers: Claudio Pizarro got "his" 14 back and does not wear the 4 anymore, which Michael Lang wears now. Christian Groß wears the 36 not the 20 (https://www.transfermarkt.de/sv-werder-bremen/kader/verein/86)

 

Luka Jovic was first transfered from Benfica to Frankfurt for € 5 Million and then for € 60 Million to Real Madrid. Ingame he was just transfered from Frankfurt to Madrid for € 5 Million (https://www.transfermarkt.de/luka-jovic/profil/spieler/257462)

Also Frankfurts Transferbudget looks pretty small since the earned € 101,80 Million and spent € 59,5 Million  (https://www.transfermarkt.de/eintracht-frankfurt/transfers/verein/24/saison_id/2019)

 

 

 

Schaaf - Done. Changed Gruev to Coach, although not sure what you mean about skills.

Votava - Done. 

Fixed squad numbers.

Jovic should be fixed.

 

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On 01/11/2019 at 16:07, theorenwulf said:

I actually have some additions for Uerdingen

Hakim Guenouche is playing for Uerdingen now, not for Zürich U21.

https://www.transfermarkt.de/hakim-guenouche/profil/spieler/395230

Stefan Effenberg is no longer unemployed he is Uerdingens Director of Football.

https://kfc-uerdingen.de/artikel/2019-10-05-stefan-effenberg-wird-manager-sport/

Also Stefan Reisinger is listed in game as Uerdingen Coach but he is actually their Manager, Daniel Steuernagel is only his Assistant who is officially called Manager due to the fact that he has a Continental Pro License which is required to be a Manager in the 3. Liga.

https://kfc-uerdingen.de/artikel/2019-10-16-neues-trainerduo-daniel-steuernagel-wird-cheftrainer/

And one issue not related to Uerdingen, Denis Jäpel is missing from the game he is a member of Zwickaus first team squad though, already made a sub appearance this season.

https://www.transfermarkt.de/denis-japel/profil/spieler/361050

Also Gunther Metz is Kaiserslauterns Loan Manager I would say from the desription of his position. He is currently unemployed in the database.

https://fck.de/de/gunther-metz-kehrt-als-talente-trainer-zum-fck-zurueck/

All done - except Resinger, as if Seuernagel is technical manager we have to leave that, but I've given Reisinger all the responsibilities of the manager, each pick the team, team talk, press conferences etc.

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23 minutes ago, Simon Tipple said:

All done - except Resinger, as if Seuernagel is technical manager we have to leave that, but I've given Reisinger all the responsibilities of the manager, each pick the team, team talk, press conferences etc.

Thank you very much and also thank you in general for the amazing work you put  in. I completely  understand your point about Reisinger, though I would make him an Assistant Manager and not a Coach. Frank Heinemann has been on sick leave ever since Heiko Vogel got sacked and there seems to be a general agreement of fans and club insiders in the forums that he won't come back. I completelly understand not removing him from the staff on FM based on rumours, but I would at least "demote" him to being a Coach to represent his current position on the staff. The following is a news article from 4 weeks ago about Heinemanns situation.

https://www.fupa.net/berichte/kfc-uerdingen-05-heinemann-zeichen-stehen-auf-abscheid-2523336.html

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39 minutes ago, theorenwulf said:

Thank you very much and also thank you in general for the amazing work you put  in. I completely  understand your point about Reisinger, though I would make him an Assistant Manager and not a Coach. Frank Heinemann has been on sick leave ever since Heiko Vogel got sacked and there seems to be a general agreement of fans and club insiders in the forums that he won't come back. I completelly understand not removing him from the staff on FM based on rumours, but I would at least "demote" him to being a Coach to represent his current position on the staff. The following is a news article from 4 weeks ago about Heinemanns situation.

https://www.fupa.net/berichte/kfc-uerdingen-05-heinemann-zeichen-stehen-auf-abscheid-2523336.html

No problem. He was set as Assistant but their was another Assistant too, so the game code converted him to a Coach. I've made the other guy a coach so he will show up as Assistant for the full release.

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7 hours ago, Simon Tipple said:

 

Those are the short names, they do have their full names in the game too. The names we use are provided to us by the Bundesliga.

OK, but I only posted that, because when you choose your team, all teams in 1. Bundesliga and all in 2. Bundesliga,  but the three teams I posted, are shown in long names. Perhaps this is inconsistent then?

I recognized that in 3.Liga there are more teams with the short name.

Perhaps you can check this again and thank you for your work.

Again with Karlsruher SC as example, in the table and in searching , you can find "Karlsruhe" as short name and other teams are shown in long names e.g. "1. FC Heidenheim 1846", this is definitly the long name for Heidenheim.
I only had the FM 2017, and there Karlsruhe is shown correctly as "Karlsruher SC" in the searching and in the table. Again, it looks inconsistent for me. Ok, now I recognize what I wrote... Now I remembered because in FM 2017 it is all with long names. Its because there was no licences for Bundesliga in FM and the data of the correct team names was of the german meistertrainerforum. They did it correct ;)

I hope I dont annoy you with this, but when I look at the table or list of teams to choose its weird for me when there are teams with long names beside teams with short names ;)

Edited by JWebxx

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1 hour ago, JWebxx said:

OK, but I only posted that, because when you choose your team, all teams in 1. Bundesliga and all in 2. Bundesliga,  but the three teams I posted, are shown in long names. Perhaps this is inconsistent then?

I recognized that in 3.Liga there are more teams with the short name.

Perhaps you can check this again and thank you for your work.

Again with Karlsruher SC as example, in the table and in searching , you can find "Karlsruhe" as short name and other teams are shown in long names e.g. "1. FC Heidenheim 1846", this is definitly the long name for Heidenheim.
I only had the FM 2017, and there Karlsruhe is shown correctly as "Karlsruher SC" in the searching and in the table. Again, it looks inconsistent for me. Ok, now I recognize what I wrote... Now I remembered because in FM 2017 it is all with long names. Its because there was no licences for Bundesliga in FM and the data of the correct team names was of the german meistertrainerforum. They did it correct ;)

I hope I dont annoy you with this, but when I look at the table or list of teams to choose its weird for me when there are teams with long names beside teams with short names ;)

I understand but I'm afraid we can't change these.

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8 minutes ago, Simon Tipple said:

I understand but I'm afraid we can't change these.

Again thank you for your work. No Problem. But its interesting what short names Bundesliga is sending you ;)

I'm sure, the guys of meistertrainerforum will have a file to change this like in former versions :)

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On 01/11/2019 at 23:30, Super Saiyajin Karn3ol said:

Some mistake or corrections

 

- FC Gütersloh stadium have the wrong name Energieversum Stadion --> Heidewaldstadion(https://fcguetersloh.de/aus-energieversum-stadion-wird-wieder-das-heidewaldstadion)

- Adrian Babic is the new Chefscout(Schalke) (https://schalke04.de/personal/fc-schalke-04-verpflichtet-adrian-babic-als-chefscout/)

  - Uwe Vester should be a normal scout 

- Temel Hop doesnt play for FC Güterloh (https://www.haller-kreisblatt.de/sport/lokalsport/22432522_Verstaerkung-aus-der-Oberliga-SV-Haeger-holt-Temel-Hop-vom-FC-Guetersloh.html)

- Ivan Porobija isnt a physio from Schalke. I cant find any Information about him 

- Dennis Schmitz and Tim Roussis are physios from Schalke (https://schalke04.de/funktion/funktionsteam/)

 - Michael Reschke is the technical director and not the director of Football.  The better choice is Jochen Schneider he negotiate with players and clubs.(https://schalke04.de/personal/michael-reschke-wird-technischer-direktor-beim-fc-schalke-04/)

-Stambouli main position shoud be Defender(Cebtre) he played this position two season in a row.

 

As far as I can tell the stadium name is correct in the db, and Stambouli is a DC.

Have fixed the other issues.

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On 02/11/2019 at 06:31, elazulreal said:

Additions to Schalke issues mentioned above;

Name of the Schalke II player Berkhan Firat needs to be corrected as "Berkan Firat". (https://www.dfb.de/datencenter/personen/berkan-firat/spieler)

Nabil Bentaleb was transfer listed in summer, made some transfer negotiations but remained in the club, he is not featuring in the squad currently. He should be transfer listed in the beginning of the game and his playing time should be downgraded to Squad Player from Regular Starter. (https://twitter.com/s04_en/status/1144196409194926081

 

 

Fixed Berkan. We don't set transfer status or squad status in the db, but will look into it.

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On 03/11/2019 at 08:13, YasoKuul said:

Thore Jacobsen is loaned from Werder Bremen to Magdeburg: https://www.transfermarkt.de/thore-jacobsen/profil/spieler/236986

Jonah Osabutey is loaned from Werder Bremen to Mouscron: https://www.transfermarkt.de/jonah-osabutey/profil/spieler/269766

Park Gyu-Hyun and Park Kyu-hyun is the same player (loaned from Ulsan to Bremen): https://www.transfermarkt.de/kyu-hyun-park/profil/spieler/639240

Louis Poznanski has been transferred to Werder Bremen reserve team: https://www.transfermarkt.de/louis-poznanski/profil/spieler/393922

Björn Dreyer is new assistant manager at Werder Bremen reserve team: https://www.transfermarkt.de/bjorn-dreyer/profil/trainer/39907

Christian Brand is coach at Werder Bremen youth team: https://www.transfermarkt.de/christian-brand/profil/trainer/4610

Clemens Fritz should be added to the game as loan manager: https://www.transfermarkt.de/clemens-fritz/profil/trainer/74148

All done, thank you.

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6 hours ago, Simon Tipple said:

Done, transfer dates/contract end dates would be handy if you have them?

Jonathan Benteke - Alemania Aachen (18.10.2019)

Sascha Schünemann - Hansa Rostock (03.10.2019)
Kevin Bönisch - FC Oberlausitz Neugersdorf (10.10.2019)
Hendrik Ostermann - SV Eichede (09.10.2019)

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On 03/11/2019 at 22:04, gijsvanboven said:

Leon Schneider plays in 2nd of fc Koln and not with cottbus

 

https://www.transfermarkt.nl/leon-schneider/profil/spieler/356325

 

 

On 04/11/2019 at 09:28, gijsvanboven said:

Marvin Alexa  plays in U19 of Leverkusen and not with sandhausen

 

https://www.transfermarkt.nl/marvin-alexa/profil/spieler/534440

Done

On 04/11/2019 at 11:35, gijsvanboven said:

Tobias Stirl plays in Wolfsburg 2 and not with frankfurt

 

https://www.transfermarkt.nl/tobias-stirl/profil/spieler/379959

Done

On 04/11/2019 at 12:14, gijsvanboven said:

Julian Günther-Schmidt plays in Carl Zeiss Jena and not by augsburg

 

https://www.transfermarkt.nl/julian-gunther-schmidt/profil/spieler/161079

 

Caiuby plays not by augsburg is a free player

 

https://www.transfermarkt.nl/caiuby/profil/spieler/54137

 

 

Schmidt - done.

Caiuby - couldn't find anything official, only thing I could find was that his contract expires June 2020.

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On 04/11/2019 at 20:21, pingjockey said:

Chemnitzer FC stadium is listed as Commerzbank-Arena Frankfurt in game.

Chemnitzer's stadium is Stadion an der Gellerstraße.

In case this was missed

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On 04/11/2019 at 13:29, gijsvanboven said:

benedict Hollerbach plays not by bayern munchen u19. He plays by stuttgart u19

 

https://www.transfermarkt.nl/benedict-hollerbach/profil/spieler/453870

 

Louis Poznanski plays not by bayern munchen u19. He plays by werder bremen ll

 

https://www.transfermarkt.nl/louis-poznanski/profil/spieler/393922

 

 

Done

On 04/11/2019 at 13:57, gijsvanboven said:
 Frederik Jakel missing by RB Leipzig
 
 
 

Done

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On 04/11/2019 at 14:31, msv1902 said:

Leroy-Jaques Mickels signed this summer for MSV Duisburg. In Game he is a player from Verl. 

Done

On 04/11/2019 at 23:56, Supermanne said:

Marcin Kaminski-VfB Stuttgart is injured with a rupture of cruciate ligament

https://www.transfermarkt.de/marcin-kaminski/verletzungen/spieler/129358

Done

On 05/11/2019 at 01:21, pingjockey said:

Chemnitzer FC stadium is listed as Commerzbank-Arena Frankfurt in game.

Chemnitzer's stadium is Stadion an der Gellerstraße.

Fixed

On 05/11/2019 at 13:17, Bahamontes said:

Marek Mintal is the new caretaker manager of 1.FC Nürnberg and will succeed to Damir Canadi and Erik Orie.

 

Thanks

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https://community.sigames.com/topic/495372-germany-data-issues/?do=findComment&comment=12072679
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If someone could delete those post´s, i sadly cant ...

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made one full post, with links and all that.

 

BVB related Stuff:
** Former Players **

- Alexanders Isak ( now plays for Real San Sebastian) fee was 6.5Mil €. Dortmund has an BuyBack Option for 30mil €m, and his Release Clause is 70mi.€ not 26.5Mil €
https://www.transfermarkt.de/alexander-isak/profil/spieler/349066

-  David Odonkor he isnt a Manager anymore. He is a Player again. Ended his Bad Pyrmont Job -> went to Turkey to 2.League side Eskisehirspor -> DoF and Assistent Manager -> wants to help his Friends at Wilhelmshaven( 7.League - Bezirksliga ). Is allowed to play at the 1. of January due the registration.

https://www.sport1.de/fussball/2019/07/david-odonkor-wird-sportlicher-leiter-von-eskisehirspor-in-tuerkei
http://www.svwilhelmshaven.de/new.php?mainMenu=3&subMenu=13&newsContent=0&id=7937
https://www.fupa.net/spieler/david-odonkor-42826.html

** Legends, Icons, Favourite Personnel **

- Dede isnt a Club Icon, he is a Club Legend.
- Jakub Kuba Blaszczykowski is a Fan Favorite, so Favoured Personnel.

- Matthias Sammer  ( right now an external Consultant for BVB ( Zorc & Watzke) he won everything with Dortmund as a Player. Championchips, Club WorldCup, UCL .. he won the Bundesliga Title as a Manager/Trainer with Dortmund, got to the Uefa Cup Final with them .. -> he is an Icon.

- Stefan Reuter Favoured Personnel -> Icon. Played 12 years for Dortmund, won everything with them. Was Captain for a long time. 6 Years.

- Michael Zorc -> Icon -> LEGEND
1 Player - 1 Team for his whole life.
17 Years as a Player, 450+ Games. 131 Goals.
9!! Years Club Captain, and since 1997, he still works for Dortmund.
He is a LEGEND.

- Sebastian Kehl - is an Icon. 13 years BVB, stayed in the bad times, had ups and downs with the Team, long injuries, Titles, was Team Captain for 6 Years, and works for them again.

- Marc Bartra - is Favoured Personnel .. he was here for a short time, but he never left our Heart. he loved and still loves the club. Fan Favourite, Club Favourite. He never stopped working, and thats what we love. He got injured during that Bomb Attack against the BVB Bus ...

** Loan **
- Andre Schürrle -> he has an Buy-Option for 8Mil € -> at the Start it shows already as an "done Deal" for 7.5Mil €
https://www.transfermarkt.de/andre-schurrle/profil/spieler/58205

** Staff **

BVB U19 Manager/Trainer is Michael Skibbe
https://www.transfermarkt.de/michael-skibbe/profil/trainer/681

BVB U23 / BVB II Assistent Manager David Solga, he gets fired every time a new BVB Save starts, and i dont know why?

 

** 1.Team **
Mateu Morey - has an Pro Contract, was bought for the first team, trains with them, went in PreSeason with them, sadly he got injured -> thats why he plays some games for the U23  -> should be in the first Team from the Game Start.
https://www.transfermarkt.de/mateu-morey/profil/spieler/388513

Steven Ruprecht - was transfered from Fortuna Köln to BVB U23. He has nothing to do with the first Team.  BVB -> BVB U23
https://www.transfermarkt.de/steven-ruprecht/profil/spieler/31608

Marco Hober - was transfered from Lotto to BVB U23 -> has nothing to do with the first Team. BVB -> BVB U23
https://www.transfermarkt.de/marco-hober/profil/spieler/195765

- Brandt - he isnt a ML or AML anymore, he played most Games last Year as an CAM, and also under Favre this Season  mostly CAM

- Sancho 12 Passing , Sancho had the most Assist´s in all of the Big Leagues last Season, he ended up with 17! Assist´s in Bundesliga, 6 again this Season. In Total 18/19 & now .. he has 42 BundesligaGames 15 Goals and 23 Assist´s. His Dribbling Stat fits, but Passing? i mean as the best Assist-giver?

- Brandt 13 Passing, kinda the same as i stated for Sancho. He had 14 Assist´s and 7 Goals in 33 Bundesliga Games, he had an awesome Season,and not the first Season with that amount of Assist´s.

- Reus 12 Passing, same .. but for some more Years. i know he is already 30, but 12 Passing for all his Chances he creates? he doesnt only score them, he also creates most of BVB´s chances.

 

** BVB U23 **
- Tobias Raschl,signed a Pro Contract  06.03.2019 until 30.06.2022. He belongs to the first Team, gets playing Time in BVB U23 & plays for BVB U19 UCL
https://www.transfermarkt.de/tobias-raschl/profil/spieler/384745

- Luca Unbehaun,signed a Pro Contract  06.03.2019 until 30.06.2022. He belongs to the first Team, gets playing Time in BVB U19 & plays for BVB U19 UCL
https://www.transfermarkt.de/luca-unbehaun/profil/spieler/388815

-> Pro Contract from both https://www.transfermarkt.de/bvb-profivertrage-fur-raschl-amp-unbehaun-ricken-bdquo-hohe-durchlassigkeit-bestatigen-ldquo-/view/news/331150

- Kolbeinn Birgir Finnsson is a Left Back, he played every Game for Dortmund U23 on that Position
https://www.transfermarkt.de/kolbeinn-birgir-finnsson/leistungsdaten/spieler/320421

Missing Players:

- Jonas Hupe
https://www.transfermarkt.de/jonas-hupe/profil/spieler/300582

- Lucien Haryluk
https://www.transfermarkt.de/lucien-hawryluk/profil/spieler/384740

- Julius Schell
https://www.transfermarkt.de/julius-schell/profil/spieler/336008

- Arif Et
https://www.transfermarkt.de/arif-et/profil/spieler/235549

- Magnus Kaastrup
https://www.transfermarkt.de/magnus-kaastrup/profil/spieler/400549
https://www.transfermarkt.de/offiziell-dortmund-verpflichtet-danischen-u19-nationalspieler-kaastrup-aus-aarhus/view/news/336752 + buy option for 5 Mil €


** Youth **

- Emre Aydinel plays for the U23 now, and for the U19 UCL Team
https://www.transfermarkt.de/emre-aydinel/profil/spieler/335001

-Patrick Osterhage plays now for the U23 Team.
https://www.transfermarkt.de/patrick-osterhage/profil/spieler/443331

- Youssoufa Moukoko isnt in the Game, yes he is 14years old right now. But he is a starter for the U19 BVB and U19 UCL Team. He´ll get 15yo on the 20.November .. he should be in the game!
https://www.transfermarkt.de/youssoufa-moukoko/profil/spieler/467720

- Kamal Bafounta, was a Wonderkid last Year, but now he is one of the worst at BVB U19? he had a long injury but that doesnt erase all of his Skills or potential

Missing Players:

- Dominik Schönnenbeck
https://www.transfermarkt.de/dominik-schonnenbeck/profil/spieler/385406

- Leon Klußmann
https://www.transfermarkt.de/leon-klussmann/profil/spieler/387708

- Berkan Aras
https://www.transfermarkt.de/berkan-aras/profil/spieler/467413

- Mert Ahmet Akbulut
https://www.transfermarkt.de/mert-ahmet-akbulut/profil/spieler/477939

- Maximilian Meier
https://www.transfermarkt.de/maximilian-meier/profil/spieler/467715

- Mert Göckan
https://www.transfermarkt.de/mert-gockan/profil/spieler/386111

- Emir Terzi
https://www.transfermarkt.de/emir-terzi/profil/spieler/386104

- Maik Amedick
https://www.transfermarkt.de/maik-amedick/profil/spieler/467424

- Felix Schlüsselburg
https://www.transfermarkt.de/felix-schlusselburg/profil/spieler/386114

- Reda Khadra
https://www.transfermarkt.de/reda-khadra/profil/spieler/405686

- Malte Wengerowski
https://www.transfermarkt.de/malte-wengerowski/profil/spieler/520716

- Ansgar Knauff
https://www.transfermarkt.de/ansgar-knauff/profil/spieler/429874

- Julias Fynn Rauch
https://www.transfermarkt.de/julius-fynn-rauch/profil/spieler/522107


** Social Groups **
Im kinda confused here.

Why is Sancho in "others"? he is Friends with everyone in the Team, has awesome chemistry with them, talks with them and all that. Yes he had 1 Problem in his BVB Time, he came late onces that was some weeks ago. But thats no reason to put him in "others"

Secomdary Group B: " mostly speak Spanish, and have been at the club for roughly the same length"
Guerreiro 2016, Zagadou 2017, Hakimi 2018, Balerdi 2019

Guerreiro, Zagadou, Hazard, Witsel, Akanji are our big French Connection, they are always together and are totally integrated in the Team.

Balerdi Hakimi Morey Alcacer +- Guerreiro are our other big Connection, with Spanish Speaking Players.

so its kinda confusuing, because its kinda mixed up?

 

 

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Erolind Krasniqi signed with Rot-Weiss Essen: https://www.transfermarkt.de/erolind-krasniqi/profil/spieler/425545

Damir Bektic signed with Energie Cottbus: https://www.transfermarkt.de/damir-bektic/profil/spieler/270403

Daniel Bierofka resigned as manager of 1860 Munich: https://www.transfermarkt.de/daniel-bierofka/profil/trainer/38870

Hannover 96 released manager Mikro Slomka: https://www.transfermarkt.de/mirko-slomka/profil/trainer/697

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1 hour ago, rosicky1990 said:

made one full post, with links and all that.

I will get to your posts don't worry, thanks for posting. We don't set friendship groups in the database, although if you know if he is close friends with any team mates in particular we could add them as favourite staff to reflect that. We can't change Legends/Icons at this stage but can keep them in mind for the future.

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@Simon Tipple i didnt made the "Full Post" because i was in a need of a Reply :D  i made it, because i guess its better to have it in one full post, and not 4+ small post´s.

And that Friendship stuff, i mean i was just looking at the Social Group´s and that looked mixed up. Because i thought its like that, that the same Language and that kinda reflect it. so i was curious why a Player like Zagadou is in a "Spanish speaking Group" even tho he doesnt speak spanish. But Alcacer isnt in that Group. Or a born and raised in France Player like Guerreiro isnt in the French Group. dont really important for me, but it looked a bit switched up for me.

& Legends/Icon´s yeah do it for the Future, because for me its a nice "look" if you see all of those Legends, because Dortmund for example looks kinda empty :D even tho many of those guys are in the Game.

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Severin Buchta (92088305) - Contract at Türkgücü München was terminated, is now without club  https://www.transfermarkt.de/severin-buchta/profil/spieler/230804

Pablo Pigl (91123957) - Türkgücü München ---> FC Pipinsried  https://www.transfermarkt.de/pablo-pigl/profil/spieler/94666

Stephan Thee (91002961) - Türkgücü München ---> FC Pipinsried  https://www.transfermarkt.de/stephan-thee/profil/spieler/48407

Sebastian Mitterhuber (35014451) - Türkgücü München ---> Türkspor Augsburg  https://www.transfermarkt.de/sebastian-mitterhuber/profil/spieler/39735

Florian Mayer (91180870) - Türkgücü München ---> TSV Landsberg  https://www.transfermarkt.de/florian-mayer/profil/spieler/190692

Christoph Rech (92026382) - Türkgücü München ---> FC Pipinsried  https://www.transfermarkt.de/christoph-rech/profil/spieler/126289

Martin Holek (25022581) - Türkgücü München ---> SpVgg Bayern Hof  https://www.transfermarkt.de/martin-holek/profil/spieler/180549

Luka Odak (35018714) - Türkgücü München ---> FC Pipinsried  https://www.transfermarkt.de/luka-odak/profil/spieler/39736

Giovanni Goia (91167263) - Türkgücü München ---> Türkspor Augsburg  https://www.transfermarkt.de/giovanni-goia/profil/spieler/156716

Orhan Akkurt (92025925) - Türkgücü München ---> FC Ismaning   https://www.transfermarkt.de/orhan-akkurt/profil/spieler/116809

Issa N'Diaye (13114726) -  Contract at Türkgücü München expired, is now without club  https://www.transfermarkt.de/issa-ndiaye/profil/spieler/209928

 

Philipp Mandla (91144807) - SpVgg Erkenschwick ---> TuS Haltern  https://www.transfermarkt.de/philipp-mandla/profil/spieler/231497

 

 

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18 hours ago, YasoKuul said:

Erolind Krasniqi signed with Rot-Weiss Essen: https://www.transfermarkt.de/erolind-krasniqi/profil/spieler/425545

Damir Bektic signed with Energie Cottbus: https://www.transfermarkt.de/damir-bektic/profil/spieler/270403

Daniel Bierofka resigned as manager of 1860 Munich: https://www.transfermarkt.de/daniel-bierofka/profil/trainer/38870

Hannover 96 released manager Mikro Slomka: https://www.transfermarkt.de/mirko-slomka/profil/trainer/697

Thanks - need official link rather than transfermarkt ideally, but have found them and verified all. :thup:

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On 05/11/2019 at 13:54, Simon Tipple said:

Done.

Have retired Clemens, do you have a link to show he's now working as an U19 Data Analyst?

McKenna is set as Assistant in the DB, as is Bugera. The website suggests Bugera is still and assistant, but have changed him to a coach.

I've added Morabet and Filipovic.

Jonjic's 2012 history isn't really needed, we'd usually only go back as far as their club at 16 years old.

Will leave the subjective suggestions for the researcher to consider.

Thanks for all of these :) I'm afraid I don't have a source other than transfermarkt for Clemens, I learned about his new role through conversation.

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