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Please post any data issues related to Italy here.

As much of the data is subjective we’d ask that you respect everyone’s opinion and accept that the final decision is that of our club researchers and our heads of research.          

We also request you please adhere to the following three point plan when posting in the data topics:

·        State what you think is specifically wrong with a particular piece of data.              

·        State what you think the data should be.                            

·        State reasons/proof for your suggested corrections/improvements.                         

Please note that any non-data issues for Italy should be posted in the appropriate thread within the League Specific Issues Forum. This would include issues such as league scheduling and league rules.

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At Juventus, or Zebre, Douglas Costa and Bernardeschi are on transfer list which is strange for me. Higuain, Mandzukic and even Dybala were on transfer list this summer but this is just my opinion.

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Andrea Mancini 43094471 -> Livorna
Francesco D'Orsi, Tommaso Mannucci - Lavagnese
Alessandro Celin -> Arzachena
Vincenzo Russo - Taranto
Carmelo Maesano - Palmese
Gabriele Gibilterra - Foggia
Angelo Scalzone - Savoia
Matteo Pellegrino - Licata

 

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Per la Juventus alla prima stagione ''Coppa Campioni: Raggiungi la finale (minimo)'' 4/4
Un po' esagerato,no?

De Ligt: peso 82 -> 89kg

Edited by ParanoidBuddha

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C'è un errore nella roma, mkhitaryan risulta "in prestito con obbligo d'acquisto 1/7/2020 per 25M", in realtà è un prestito secco.

Ragazzi un'altra cosa, non voglio fare il tifoso, ma i giocatori della lazio sono stra pompati, è una cosa indecente!

guardate la differenza tra Fabian ruiz e Luis Alberto
 

 

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In questo momento, Pasties ha scritto:

Juventus being called Zebre is very confusing

roba di licenze

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Just now, Pasties said:

Juventus being called Zebre is very confusing

Licensing issue. Nothing SI can do about it.

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1 minute ago, Soviet said:

Licensing issue. Nothing SI can do about it.

Had no idea. Thanks for the heads up

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Not only Juventus has a fake name but even part or all its staff (I still didn't check everyone). For example Barzagli is ''Federico Ranucci'' and Paratici is ''Matteo Cugini''.

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28 minutes ago, ParanoidBuddha said:

Not only Juventus has a fake name but even part or all its staff (I still didn't check everyone). For example Barzagli is ''Federico Ranucci'' and Paratici is ''Matteo Cugini''.

Sarri is also Ramondi..

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Ciro Immobile is quite possibly the only poacher who is great at everything except scoring goals and yet he's been given an 18 Finishing and 17 Composure.

 

Surely this is wrong and both values should be much lower ?

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A few issues with Fiorentina boardroom and staff members:

- Gino Salica and Gian Luca Baiesi are still listed as Directors but they're no longer part of Fiorentina after the recent takeover by Rocco Commisso. American CEO Mark E. Stephan, Joseph Commisso (Rocco's son) are new prominent members of the board, together with Joe Barone (not listed, but is de facto Rocco's right hand) http://www.legaseriea.it/it/serie-a/squadre/fiorentina

- Dario Dainelli isn't really a Scout, his job at Fiorentina is 'technical supervisor' so I think he should be listed as Technical Director in the game. http://www.fiorentina.it/ufficiale-dario-dainelli-torna-in-societa-sara-supervisore-dellarea-tecnica/

- Paolo Riela has been promoted to first team, so he's no longer an U20 Assistant Manager. He's now a Data Analyst for senior team. http://www.canteraviola.com/riela-promozione-definitiva-in-prima-squadra-il-ruolo/

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Andrea Bruno (ID: 43390175) of Entella U18 has the wrong preferred positions. The preferred positions are PC and TD. (source: https://www.transfermarkt.it/andrea-bruno/profil/spieler/533559)

Francesco Barba (ID: 43391571), in the season 2016/2017, was at Vigor Perconti (source: https://www.gazzettaregionale.it/notizie/lazio-occhi-su-barba-della-vigor-perconti)

 

Simone Milani (it's not in FM20 database but it's on the app "FMDB"), after the failure of the Pro Piacenza, was at Castiadas (italian D series) from January 2019 to June 2019,  and then in July 2019 signed for Torres (Italian D series) (source: https://www.transfermarkt.it/simone-milani/profil/spieler/289086)

 

 

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This is Barella (from Cagliari to Inter)

this is wrong what his profile says because:

1) loan for 12 milions + 25 milions at July 2020 + some bonus (more or less 8 milions) = 45 milions the cost of hiring

2) Cagliari, and I assure for that, dont pay any wages for duration of loan so Inter pay for that

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Alberto Di Pierri - LG Trino
Dario Maltese - Giana Erminio
Gianni Fabiano - Mestre
Jacopo Coletta - Lucchese Libertas
Alessandro Celestri - Montebelluna
Antonio Di Emma - Pomezia
Paolo De Cristofaro - Palestrina
Giordano Pantano - Nardo
Yusupha Bobb - Lecco
Stefano Marinai - Seravezza Pozzi
Mattia Sandrini - Castelbaldo
Vito Lavopa - Molfetta
Damiano Galantini - Castiadas
Michael Fiore - Sandona
Gennaro Troianiello - Gladiator 1924
Gabriel Buongarzoni - Atletico Fiuggi
Alessandro Longhi - Cerignola
Saverio Pedalino - Tuttocuoio
Christian Cenci - Tamai

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Giovanni Ignoffo (ID: 11072) is no longer the manager of US Avellino (ID:1108). The new manager is Ezio Capuano (ID: 3803857), who left Rieti (ID: 6100208) at the end of 18/19 season.

 

Also Giovanni Ignoffo (ID: 11072) was hired by Benevento Calcio between 2014 and 2017 and then he took over the Palermo U18 squad until the beggining of 19/20 season, when he left for Avellino and got fired in October.

 

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_Ignoffo

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezio_Capuano

Edited by joeys

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Gianluca Sansone - Cerignola (and his 18/19 history is doubled)
Sorin Radoi - Diegaro
Salvatore Incatasciato - ACD San Tomasso

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Andrea Belotti (imo) should have the 'attempts overhead kicks' PPM. I've seen him try bicycle kicks many, many times.

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Staff U20 Hellas Verona is:

Nicola Corrent (coach)

Roberto Piuzzi (second coach)

Sandro Bedin (atletich trainer)

Emanuele Lafratta (physioterapist)

Fabrizio Paese (goalkeeper trainer)

Gianmarco Splendori (recovery injuries)

Philipp Gerold (physiotherapist)

Marco Brighenti (match analyst)

Staff U18 is:

Antonio Porta (coach)

Marco Cazzadori (atletich trainer)

Mantia Angelo  (physiotherapist)

Stefano Vaini (recovery injuries)

 

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Gaetano Castrovilli (Fiorentina) has recently signed a contract extension through 2024 https://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Serie-A/Fiorentina/10-10-2019/castrovilli-fiorentina-rinnovo-firmato-lui-promette-diventero-bandiera-viola-350145699277.shtml

Also maybe his dribbling attribute (14) could use a slight upgrade at some point as he's one of the most successful dribblers in the league this season, on a pretty good sample now.

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I feel like Milik should have the "tries to round keeper" trait, as he's scored a number of goals using that trick in the past, most recently his goal against Atalanta (unless I'm misunderstanding what that trait means). I also feel like he should have slightly higher free kick taking; he scored several last season, and is almost always very dangerous from them even if he doesn't score; again, I'm pretty sure he hit the woodwork against Atalanta, and even his detractors tend to admit he's great at them.

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Fran Brodic (08/01/1997) is ot a player of REGGINA (Serie C, girone C). He is a player of REGGIANA (serie C girone B)

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1 ora fa, neoteros74 ha scritto:

Fran Brodic (08/01/1997) is ot a player of REGGINA (Serie C, girone C). He is a player of REGGIANA (serie C girone B)

Nice spot. We had reported correctly, but something went wrong (common error for non-native speaker). Reported again, thanks

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6 ore fa, kandersson ha scritto:

Cagliari have an obligation to buy Giovanni Simeone (currently on loan from Fiorentina) at the end of the season, while this clause is only optional in the game. http://it.violachannel.tv/vc13-dettaglio-breaking/items/id-30-08-2019_20-45-56_simeone-ceduto-al-cagliari.html Future fee is rumored to be around 16M euros.

Reported thanks

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Alex Sandro has a trait "Likes to lob the keeper", watched more than 100 his games for Juve and he never did that.

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8 ore fa, kandersson ha scritto:

Gaetano Castrovilli (Fiorentina) has recently signed a contract extension through 2024 https://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Serie-A/Fiorentina/10-10-2019/castrovilli-fiorentina-rinnovo-firmato-lui-promette-diventero-bandiera-viola-350145699277.shtml

Also maybe his dribbling attribute (14) could use a slight upgrade at some point as he's one of the most successful dribblers in the league this season, on a pretty good sample now.

New contract has been reported. I won't ask for a dribbling edit at this stage after few games, in january he will be re-evaluated properly

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19 ore fa, joeys ha scritto:

Giovanni Ignoffo (ID: 11072) is no longer the manager of US Avellino (ID:1108). The new manager is Ezio Capuano (ID: 3803857), who left Rieti (ID: 6100208) at the end of 18/19 season.

 

Also Giovanni Ignoffo (ID: 11072) was hired by Benevento Calcio between 2014 and 2017 and then he took over the Palermo U18 squad until the beggining of 19/20 season, when he left for Avellino and got fired in October.

 

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_Ignoffo

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezio_Capuano

This was already reported, you'll see in the game. thanks

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19 ore fa, ParanoidBuddha ha scritto:

Why isn't the decreto crescita in the game?

coders are working on, imagine it was not easy to implementate

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19 ore fa, Bigpole ha scritto:

Gianluca Sansone - Cerignola (and his 18/19 history is doubled)
Sorin Radoi - Diegaro
Salvatore Incatasciato - ACD San Tomasso

 

20 ore fa, Bigpole ha scritto:

Alberto Di Pierri - LG Trino
Dario Maltese - Giana Erminio
Gianni Fabiano - Mestre
Jacopo Coletta - Lucchese Libertas
Alessandro Celestri - Montebelluna
Antonio Di Emma - Pomezia
Paolo De Cristofaro - Palestrina
Giordano Pantano - Nardo
Yusupha Bobb - Lecco
Stefano Marinai - Seravezza Pozzi
Mattia Sandrini - Castelbaldo
Vito Lavopa - Molfetta
Damiano Galantini - Castiadas
Michael Fiore - Sandona
Gennaro Troianiello - Gladiator 1924
Gabriel Buongarzoni - Atletico Fiuggi
Alessandro Longhi - Cerignola
Saverio Pedalino - Tuttocuoio
Christian Cenci - Tamai

 

Il 31/10/2019 in 20:02 , Bigpole ha scritto:

Andrea Mancini 43094471 -> Livorna
Francesco D'Orsi, Tommaso Mannucci - Lavagnese
Alessandro Celin -> Arzachena
Vincenzo Russo - Taranto
Carmelo Maesano - Palmese
Gabriele Gibilterra - Foggia
Angelo Scalzone - Savoia
Matteo Pellegrino - Licata

 

Surely an amazing depth.

Anyway at this stage reporting a list of move to amateur and unplayable clubs without IDs, dates, contracts and source is quite pointless.

Please update with missing informations to have a chance to be reported in game before winter patch

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Il 31/10/2019 in 22:52 , Bakiano ha scritto:

Sarri is also Ramondi..

 

Il 31/10/2019 in 22:23 , ParanoidBuddha ha scritto:

Not only Juventus has a fake name but even part or all its staff (I still didn't check everyone). For example Barzagli is ''Federico Ranucci'' and Paratici is ''Matteo Cugini''.

 

Il 31/10/2019 in 22:13 , Pasties ha scritto:

Had no idea. Thanks for the heads up

 

Il 31/10/2019 in 22:12 , Soviet ha scritto:

Licensing issue. Nothing SI can do about it.

 

Il 31/10/2019 in 22:12 , red5788 ha scritto:

roba di licenze

 

Il 31/10/2019 in 22:11 , Pasties ha scritto:

Juventus being called Zebre is very confusing

As you may have read, another game has the exclusive rights for Juventus.

It's something neither we or SI can do anything about.

 

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11 minuti fa, Bakiano ha scritto:

Alex Sandro has a trait "Likes to lob the keeper", watched more than 100 his games for Juve and he never did that.

 

5 ore fa, Nuliag ha scritto:

I feel like Milik should have the "tries to round keeper" trait, as he's scored a number of goals using that trick in the past, most recently his goal against Atalanta (unless I'm misunderstanding what that trait means). I also feel like he should have slightly higher free kick taking; he scored several last season, and is almost always very dangerous from them even if he doesn't score; again, I'm pretty sure he hit the woodwork against Atalanta, and even his detractors tend to admit he's great at them.

 

18 ore fa, f1dgh ha scritto:

Andrea Belotti (imo) should have the 'attempts overhead kicks' PPM. I've seen him try bicycle kicks many, many times.

Reported thanks (despite I don't consider Milik's goal against Atalanta as a proper example)

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22 ore fa, Sirraf ha scritto:

gy2Wsi.jpg

This is Barella (from Cagliari to Inter)

this is wrong what his profile says because:

1) loan for 12 milions + 25 milions at July 2020 + some bonus (more or less 8 milions) = 45 milions the cost of hiring

2) Cagliari, and I assure for that, dont pay any wages for duration of loan so Inter pay for that

Reporting the loan wage issue (should not appear and don't know why)

12 mln Loan fee + 25 mln future transfer are already in. Bonuses are undisclosed and we can't be sure they will be fully paid atm

 

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A lot has been made of milan's vision on youth but due to their performance in the league, recently Gazidis came out and stated  https://www.rossoneriblog.com/2019/10/28/gazidis-on-elliotts-vision-increasing-the-revenues-of-milan-investing-in-experienced-players-acting-responsibly-to-make-the-club-healthier-and-more/

"We have a clear strategy to invest in young players who can improve over the years, players who will spend their best years among our ranks, becoming top players with us. After the investments in Bennacer, Theo, Leão, Paquetá and Piątek, we have the youngest team in Serie A. On the one hand, this is an important side of our strategy, but on the other hand it does not exclude investments in experienced players who can guide young players on their path of growth and improvement, like we did by buying Higuaín, and like we will do again."

"Do not sign players over the age of 30" is favoured in milans vision, should this be lowered to take into account of the above?

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In Juventus' aka Zebre's "History-Records Page" it shows Cristiano Ronaldo was bought from "Real Madrid C" and not Real Madrid proper.

It was this in FM19 as well. 

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Stefano Sensi from Inter should in my opinion at least be capable of playing AMC. In reality he plays more as a number 10 at inter. Never seen him play DM and there he is natural in game.

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On 01/11/2019 at 04:48, kandersson said:

A few issues with Fiorentina boardroom and staff members:

- Gino Salica and Gian Luca Baiesi are still listed as Directors but they're no longer part of Fiorentina after the recent takeover by Rocco Commisso. American CEO Mark E. Stephan, Joseph Commisso (Rocco's son) are new prominent members of the board, together with Joe Barone (not listed, but is de facto Rocco's right hand) http://www.legaseriea.it/it/serie-a/squadre/fiorentina

- Dario Dainelli isn't really a Scout, his job at Fiorentina is 'technical supervisor' so I think he should be listed as Technical Director in the game. http://www.fiorentina.it/ufficiale-dario-dainelli-torna-in-societa-sara-supervisore-dellarea-tecnica/

- Paolo Riela has been promoted to first team, so he's no longer an U20 Assistant Manager. He's now a Data Analyst for senior team. http://www.canteraviola.com/riela-promozione-definitiva-in-prima-squadra-il-ruolo/

To add to this, Fiorentina owner Rocco Commisso has today confirmed that Joe Barone is the new 'Direttore Generale' (Managing Director) of Fiorentina, and not merely his right hand man. http://www.fiorentina.it/commisso-nella-vita-fare-fast-e-meglio-centro-sportivo-sara-bellissimo-barone-nuovo-direttore-generale-stadio-costi-e-tempi-giusti-trofeo-entro-quattro-anni-su-ibra/

Also I'd suggest to add an affiliation (commercial link) between Fiorentina and New York Cosmos as they share same ownership, and have already been involved in media/commercial partnerships http://www.fiorentina.it/fiorentina-e-cosmos-commisso-in-posa-tra-le-sue-squadre/  https://www.fiorentina.it/a-novembre-il-derby-di-commisso-burgos-jr-ny-cosmos-amichevole-con-la-fiorentina/

 

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5 ore fa, SoloTitano ha scritto:

coders are working on, imagine it was not easy to implementate

Is there some possibility it will be implemented before the release of the game in 19th november?

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Krzysztof Piatek career history error. His Genoa season is marked as 2017/18 while it is 2018/19.

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6 ore fa, SoloTitano ha scritto:

Nice spot. We had reported correctly, but something went wrong (common error for non-native speaker). Reported again, thanks

If possible, perhaps Corazza would be modified; he's playing centre forward in Reggina and he is serie C's top scorer

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