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Please post any data issues related to Poland here.

As much of the data is subjective we’d ask that you respect everyone’s opinion and accept that the final decision is that of our club researchers and our heads of research.          

We also request you please adhere to the following three point plan when posting in the data topics:

·        State what you think is specifically wrong with a particular piece of data.              

·        State what you think the data should be.                            

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Please note that any non-data issues for Poland should be posted in the appropriate thread within the League Specific Issues Forum. This would include issues such as league scheduling and league rules.

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FM 2020, contains a boy named Kacper Kozlowski, born 16.10.2003. Previously, Football Manager did not include players who were born after September 1, and reached the age of 16 in the release year of the game. Is it because of a special license or something like that?

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To complete this case. Wiki and Transfermarkt indicate the same date of birth. So this is not a data error. Even the boy has a photo in the game. This will be something special. :)

Edited by lionel29

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Volodymyr Hladkyy (Chelmianka) - should be striker (20) attacking mid (17) and mc (12) 

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Hello. 

I have some bugs in Polish Ekstraklasa.

Wisła Cracow:
1. Piotr Świątko is not Wisla's player anymore. Club pass away the player and the new contract with Miedz Legnica is not "a loan" - as in the game.  / https://wislakrakow.com/swiatko-odchodzi-z-wisly/ /

2. Budget in Wisla is 439k euro at start of the game. To be honest. Wisła got 40 mln PLN debit. So shoul be -10 mln euro  at the beginning. We have November now, and this polish Club is "on the Edge".

3. Hoyo-Kowalski who played 4 games in Ekstraklasa is too weak.  How it its possible, that player who is shining now is terrible in phisical attributes?!

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12 hours ago, Soviet said:

 

Piotr Jaroszek z KP Starogard gra dla Kaszubii ( https://www.facebook.com/kskaszubia/photos/a.402509803289403/1180349352172107)
Adrian Wysiecki jest w Wda Lipusz ( https://www.facebook.com/wdalipusz/posts/ 920027844999275 /)

 

 

11 hours ago, Bigpole said:

Volodymyr Hladkyy (Chelmianka) - powinien być napastnikiem (20) atakującym mid (17) i mc (12) 

 

10 hours ago, jonasz1906 said:



Wisła Kraków:
1. Piotr Świątko nie jest już zawodnikiem Wisły. Klub oddał zawodnika, a nowy kontrakt z Międzem Legnicą nie jest „pożyczką” - jak w grze. / https://wislakrakow.com/swiatko-odchodzi-z-wisly/ /

3. Hoyo-Kowalski, który rozegrał 4 mecze w Ekstraklasie jest zbyt słaby. Jak to możliwe, że gracz, który świeci teraz, ma straszne atrybuty fizyczne ?!

Thank you, changes reported.

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image.thumb.png.ebdfa879c8e3d23ae6e2e0e09251fc41.png

His physicals looks okay I think (take his age into consideration, he'll grow obviously), but 15 heading and 15 marking? Is he really that good? 

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Transfer values and transfer destinations for players in the Ekstraklasa seem way off. First season, Lech sell Gumny for £975k to Rosenborg - Lech were reportedly asking for upwards of 7 million euro this summer, with clubs much bigger that Rosenborg interested. Other players leaving include Wieteska for £375k, Gytkjaer for £450k, and Jevtic for £350k. 

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For some reason Lucjan Brychczy's (ID: 710469) age gets randomised each savegame. His correct DOB is 13/06/1934.

Edited by joeys
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20 hours ago, lionel29 said:

FM 2020, contains a boy named Kacper Kozlowski, born 16.10.2003. Previously, Football Manager did not include players who were born after September 1, and reached the age of 16 in the release year of the game. Is it because of a special license or something like that?

We decided to make an exception for Kacper because of a big attention around him, and obviously because of a big talent that he has. He will be the only player born after September 1 2003 in Polish database.

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2 hours ago, joeys said:

For some reason Lucjan Brychczy's (ID: 710469) age gets randomised each savegame. His correct DOB is 13/06/1934.

Lucjan Brychczy's birth date is correct in the database. Could you please add some screenshots from the game with his age?

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5 hours ago, endtime said:

Transfer values and transfer destinations for players in the Ekstraklasa seem way off. First season, Lech sell Gumny for £975k to Rosenborg - Lech were reportedly asking for upwards of 7 million euro this summer, with clubs much bigger that Rosenborg interested. Other players leaving include Wieteska for £375k, Gytkjaer for £450k, and Jevtic for £350k. 

It looks unreal. We will look into this

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7 hours ago, Bigpole said:

image.thumb.png.ebdfa879c8e3d23ae6e2e0e09251fc41.png

His physicals looks okay I think (take his age into consideration, he'll grow obviously), but 15 heading and 15 marking? Is he really that good? 

All of his technical attributes are random and chosen by the game engine. His physical attributes were modified

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6 hours ago, Bigpole said:

Mariusz Kryczka - Radomiak

Change reported, thanks

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One thing I don't get - why the game is so inconsistent with u21 status? Lech, ŁKS, Jagiellonia, Śląsk, Pogoń and few other teams have their players with u21 status, Lechia, Legia, Cracovia don't. 

Screens below explain better what I'm on about

image.thumb.png.fe0753ecc17b555d00105282f5802c64.pngimage.thumb.png.74bdbbc131a70d6e9853f7aa9f9625b8.png

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I have a Question about  UNDER-22 rule in polish League. We don't have any "sign" about U-22 player, just U-21 /you do not need to register that player/. And to be honest - you must "click" on every player to search U-22 player [you must have at last 1 U-22 player on the pitch]. 

It is possible to create U-22 info near players, when you are on "choose the squad" window?

 

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6 hours ago, endtime said:

Transfer values and transfer destinations for players in the Ekstraklasa seem way off. First season, Lech sell Gumny for £975k to Rosenborg - Lech were reportedly asking for upwards of 7 million euro this summer, with clubs much bigger that Rosenborg interested. Other players leaving include Wieteska for £375k, Gytkjaer for £450k, and Jevtic for £350k. 

agree. In my game:
Gytkjaer  [LECH] -> Maccabi Tel Awiw for 475k euro
Jevtic  [LECH] -> Luzern, 325k euro
Damian Gaska [Slask] -> Lech , 500k euro [it will be normal IF Jevtic and Gytkjaer will be more expensive]

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Radosław Sobolewski

I understand that he is "new coach" - sometimes is hard to tell - how good are you at the beginnng of your carrier. But. Sobolewski is famous from Motivation. In my game he has only 11 points in this aspect. 

Jakub Rzezniczak [ in past - he was national player] - said very positive words about Sobolewski's Motivaton and tactical workshop https://sport.se.pl/pilka-nozna/ekstraklasa/jakub-rzezniczak-o-trenerze-wisy-plock-pod-jednm-wzgledem-sobolewski-przypomina-mi-berga-aa-TzJX-kv2b-1pfF.html


i also got crash in my game, when I added video to yt. and yes, the result is... not good 

 

Edited by jonasz1906
link to yt

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3 hours ago, Kuba said:

Lucjan Brychczy's birth date is correct in the database. Could you please add some screenshots from the game with his age?

 

here from my current save game and I'm pretty sure I've seen another example on youtube stream

Edited by joeys

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5 hours ago, Kuba said:

We decided to make an exception for Kacper because of a big attention around him, and obviously because of a big talent that he has. He will be the only player born after September 1 2003 in Polish database.

OK, that sounds interesting. I wonder if there will be more such cases, but I understand that there are rules to protect children.

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Warta Poznań errors:

Tomasz Kaczor and Izabella Łukomska-Pyżalska are no longer at the club.

Bartłomiej Farjaszewski is owner of the club. New chairman is Michał Wieczorek link others mentioned in this document - Farjaszewski (owner), Meissner (lawyer), Majewski (long time first team employee) and Janicki (chief executive) link

Wojciech Tomaszewski (coach & HoyD) link profile in sortitoutsi DB

Robert Graf is only DoF

Wojciech Danielewicz is a physio link

Jarosław Frankowski no longer works at the club

Kamil Szulc is a manager of U17 squad link

Manager of U18 is Przemysław Bereszyński link

Youth team is here Dawid Forszpaniak (link) and Filip Małek (link) should be added to DB.

Warta's stadium doesen't have 4988 capacity. West sector (1881 seats) is outdated.  

Edited by Michal

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17 hours ago, Michal said:

Warta Poznań errors:

Tomasz Kaczor and Izabella Łukomska-Pyżalska are no longer at the club.

Bartłomiej Farjaszewski is owner of the club. New chairman is Michał Wieczorek link others mentioned in this document - Farjaszewski (owner), Meissner (lawyer), Majewski (long time first team employee) and Janicki (chief executive) link

Wojciech Tomaszewski (coach & HoyD) link profile in sortitoutsi DB

Robert Graf is only DoF

Wojciech Danielewicz is a physio link

Jarosław Frankowski no longer works at the club

Kamil Szulc is a manager of U17 squad link

Manager of U18 is Przemysław Bereszyński link

Youth team is here Dawid Forszpaniak (link) and Filip Małek (link) should be added to DB.

Warta's stadium doesen't have 4988 capacity. West sector (1881 seats) is outdated.  

All changes reported, thanks

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On 01/11/2019 at 21:23, Bigpole said:

One thing I don't get - why the game is so inconsistent with u21 status? Lech, ŁKS, Jagiellonia, Śląsk, Pogoń and few other teams have their players with u21 status, Lechia, Legia, Cracovia don't. 

Screens below explain better what I'm on about

image.thumb.png.fe0753ecc17b555d00105282f5802c64.pngimage.thumb.png.74bdbbc131a70d6e9853f7aa9f9625b8.png

Do this situation take place through all season? Can you check what game is ahead of those teams? For example, when it will be friendly game, U-21 rule is not required and U-21 icon will not be displayed

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On 01/11/2019 at 21:28, jonasz1906 said:

I have a Question about  UNDER-22 rule in polish League. We don't have any "sign" about U-22 player, just U-21 /you do not need to register that player/. And to be honest - you must "click" on every player to search U-22 player [you must have at last 1 U-22 player on the pitch]. 

It is possible to create U-22 info near players, when you are on "choose the squad" window?

 

The U-22 player rule is incorrect in the game. Now it is U-21 player rule in the game, and we are working on it to change it to U-22. The U-22 icon in the first team selection menu will be shown

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21 hours ago, lionel29 said:

OK, that sounds interesting. I wonder if there will be more such cases, but I understand that there are rules to protect children.

As I know it does not happen too often. The only example of player younger then September 1 from last years was Martin Odegaard in 2015

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On 01/11/2019 at 21:46, jonasz1906 said:

Radosław Sobolewski

I understand that he is "new coach" - sometimes is hard to tell - how good are you at the beginnng of your carrier. But. Sobolewski is famous from Motivation. In my game he has only 11 points in this aspect. 

Jakub Rzezniczak [ in past - he was national player] - said very positive words about Sobolewski's Motivaton and tactical workshop https://sport.se.pl/pilka-nozna/ekstraklasa/jakub-rzezniczak-o-trenerze-wisy-plock-pod-jednm-wzgledem-sobolewski-przypomina-mi-berga-aa-TzJX-kv2b-1pfF.html


i also got crash in my game, when I added video to yt. and yes, the result is... not good 

 

We will look into his motivation, thanks

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18 minutes ago, Kuba said:

Do this situation take place through all season? Can you check what game is ahead of those teams? For example, when it will be friendly game, U-21 rule is not required and U-21 icon will not be displayed

yes, you were right, teams that haven't had their u21 players 'marked' were before euro matches/super cup. Now it's working.

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19 hours ago, Kuba said:

As I know it does not happen too often. The only example of player younger then September 1 from last years was Martin Odegaard in 2015

I think Freddy Adu was in FM at the age of 14.

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Kamil Stachyra 718289 -> Chełmianka (29.10.2019-30.06.2019)

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ŁKS's goalkeeper Michał Kołba is currently suspended for PED usage. - http://www.sport.pl/pilka/7,65039,25361382,michal-kolba-bramkarz-lks-u-lodz-skazany-za-doping-ale-moze.html
The length of his suspension is unknown, and he can still appeal POLADA's decision.
He was not released by the club, however he is no longer listed on their website - https://lkslodz.pl/sezon/kadra/

Górnik Zabrze's keeper Dawid Kudła is currently in custody, charged with rape.
He was also not released by his club, which stated they will not make a direct comment regarding his case. - http://www.90minut.pl/news/299/news2996012-Dawid-K-aresztowany.html

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Why Wojtkowski (1998) is not included in the U-21 limit in Ekstraklasa?

Edited by Pucek

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On 10/11/2019 at 13:35, KibolLP said:

ŁKS's goalkeeper Michał Kołba is currently suspended for PED usage. - http://www.sport.pl/pilka/7,65039,25361382,michal-kolba-bramkarz-lks-u-lodz-skazany-za-doping-ale-moze.html
The length of his suspension is unknown, and he can still appeal POLADA's decision.
He was not released by the club, however he is no longer listed on their website - https://lkslodz.pl/sezon/kadra/

Górnik Zabrze's keeper Dawid Kudła is currently in custody, charged with rape.
He was also not released by his club, which stated they will not make a direct comment regarding his case. - http://www.90minut.pl/news/299/news2996012-Dawid-K-aresztowany.html

Both suspensions started in the middle of round. It is the same situation as with injuries that take place during season. We will add this suspensions in the winter update, if nothing will change until winter, of course.

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On 11/11/2019 at 15:13, Pucek said:

Why Wojtkowski (1998) is not included in the U-21 limit in Ekstraklasa?

There is a problem with U-22 player rule in Polish Ekstraklasa which should be solved until game release.

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On 11/11/2019 at 20:31, KibolLP said:

Mateusz Pieńczak is missing from the database. He's a young Cracovia central-back, included in the 1st team almost a year ago.

Here's more:
https://www.transfermarkt.pl/mateusz-pienczak/profil/spieler/650292
http://www.90minut.pl/kariera.php?id=36239
https://cracovia.pl/kadra/

We will add him in the winter update, thanks

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On 08/11/2019 at 14:44, KibolLP said:

Lech Poznań's stadium is no longer named "INEA Stadion". After the sponsorship deal ended the name was changed back to "Stadion Miejski".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadion_Miejski_(Pozna%C5%84)
https://www.lechpoznan.pl/aktualnosci,2,zakonczenie-wspolpracy-miedzy-inea-a-lech-poznan-i-marcelin-management,30966.html

It is reported to the translate team, thanks

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On 05/11/2019 at 23:36, Bigpole said:

Kamil Stachyra 718289 -> Chełmianka (29.10.2019-30.06.2019)

Transfer reported, thanks

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3 minutes ago, joeys said:

How about ESA18? Any plans for that?

is this official? If not - it won't be in the game.

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On 11/17/2019 at 9:12 PM, Kuba said:

Bruk-Bet Termalica have no reserves in the game, even though they have a reserve team again since this season.

http://www.termalica.brukbet.com/nowa/aktualnosc/8424-przygotowania-rezerw

 

22 hours ago, Bigpole said:

I know it was after deadline but partnership between Gornik Łęczna and Chełmianka should be added for winter patch.

https://www.dziennikwschodni.pl/sport/pilka-nozna/ii-liga-pilka-nozna/gornik-leczna-laczy-sily-z-chelmianka-chelm-i-bks-lublin,n,1000250508.html

 

We will add in the winter update, thanks

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Could You please check the wages in Widzew? AFAIK it's impossible, that Mandiangu and Zejdler are paid better than Robak (if the gossips are correct, he should earn some 50-60 000 PLN  monthly, not 20 000 as visible at the screen).

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