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Please post any data issues related to South Korea here.

As much of the data is subjective we’d ask that you respect everyone’s opinion and accept that the final decision is that of our club researchers and our heads of research.          

We also request you please adhere to the following three point plan when posting in the data topics:

·        State what you think is specifically wrong with a particular piece of data.              

·        State what you think the data should be.                            

·        State reasons/proof for your suggested corrections/improvements.                         

Please note that any non-data issues for South Korea should be posted in the appropriate thread within the League Specific Issues Forum. This would include issues such as league scheduling and league rules.

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Kim Dae-won the main position is wing, but the striker plays.

Jeong Seung-won  Wingseonsu he works as a winger,right hand

 

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K league Junior

Team

Anyang Technical High School(ID:5703117) is FC Anyang's U-18 team. (Anyang Techincal High School football team Founded 1970, but they contract youth team agreement since 2013)

Hyunpung High School(ID:66010043) is Deagu FC's U-18 team. (since 2009)

Source : http://www.kleague.com/youth/about/junior (Korean), https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/K리그_주니어(korean)

 

Edited by JUFAFA
Some content is should be moved for league Issues

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Cheongju FC (ID :66010583) and Cheongju City Football Club (ID : 66010582) was merged to Cheongju City Football Club. and they using name as Cheongu FC (Korean:청주 FC).

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Ki Sung-yueng and Koo Ja-cheol retired from the national team.  - https://twitter.com/theKFA/status/1090537306497286144

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Gangwon FC's staff list is should be updated.

in current DB, Gangwon have too many Physio than real.

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In Gangwon's (Senior) Staff page( https://gangwon-fc.com/athlete/%ec%bd%94%ec%b9%ad%ec%8a%a4%ed%83%9c%ed%94%84/ ), Gangwon has only two Physio (Kim Chan-Jong & Lee Gyu-Seong).

Park Hyo-Jin is moved Job to Assistant manager.

Kim Hyun-Joon is Coach, he was Yeungnam University's Manager in 2017, 2018 seasons. At 2010 Season, He started Football Staff carrer as Yeungnam University's coach by Kim Byung-Soo's suggestion. Because Kim Byung-Soo was Yeungnam University's manager(2008-2016). (Source : http://www.footballjournal.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=9469)

Kim Seung-Ahn (ID:5704941) is GoalKeeping Coach.

Jang Seok-Min is Pyhsical Coach(it may be Fitness Coach in FM). (In FM 2019, He was player in DB. ID: 66011980)

Hong Dong-Hui is Data Analysist.

 

U-18 Team Coach (https://gangwon-fc.com/youth/u-18/)

Choi Jin-Kyoo is U-18 team's Manager.

Kang Joo-Hyung is U-18 team's Assistant Manager.

Kim Tae-Soo should be update to U-18 team's GoalKeeping Coach(In beta, he is Senior team's GoalKeeping Coach)

Jeon Kwang-Hwan(In FM 2019, ID : 5705296) is U-18 team Coach.

 

Manage Director should be changed Cho Tae-Ryong to Park Jong-Wan. (http://gangwon-fc.com/%EA%B0%95%EC%9B%90fc-%EC%A3%BC%EC%A3%BC%EC%B4%9D%ED%9A%8C-%EB%B0%8F-%EC%9D%B4%EC%82%AC%ED%9A%8C-%EC%97%B4%EC%96%B4-%EB%B0%95%EC%A2%85%EC%99%84-%EB%8C%80%ED%91%9C%EC%9D%B4%EC%82%AC-%EC%84%A0%EC%9E%84/)

Moved Staff (currently not Gangwon FC)

Bae Myung-ho is currently Kitchee Sports Club's Physical Coach. He was Vietnam's Physical Coach in 2019 (Vietnam national football team) (https://sports.news.naver.com/news.nhn?oid=109&aid=0004042858)

gangwon_coaching_staff.jpg

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In 19, Daegu FC moved to the new stadium and became a popular club with almost full crowds. In terms of percentage, 80-90% of the spectators watch the home game of Daegu FC.
However, on the FM2020 game, it seems to be attracting the same crowd mobilization and popularity as the FM2019 (about 3000 ~ 4000 spectators), so it doesn't seem to reflect reality.
My question is whether or not each team will be able to move the data from FM2019 as it is, and the transfer market will be reflected only for the team.
I keep enjoying the FM series, but it seems that my personal stats are almost the same.

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FC Seoul's staff list is should be updated. In their website (http://www.fcseoul.com/club/player/player_list.jsp),

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Kim Sung-Jae(ID:5701086) is Seoul's Assistant Manager (since 2018).

Baek Min-Chul(ID:5701068) & Yoon Hee-Joon(ID:5701404) are working for Senior Squad & Rserve Team. I think they should be Senior Squad In FM for reality.

Park Hyuk-Soon(ID:5702093) is Senior Squad Coach. He was U-15 team's Coach in 2017, 2018 seasons.

Lee Jae-Hong(ID:5704608) is Fitness Coach.

Kim Jung-Hoon(김정훈) is Data Analyst.

 

Adilson(ID : 5622779) is currently not working for seoul. he went Brazil for Coach licence last year. but he didn't came back.

Source : https://www.goal.com/kr/뉴스/아디-코치가-브라질로-돌아간-이유는/120hjbh5lbwdp1jujpx0l6s1we

 

Myung Jin-Young(In FM19, ID:5701432) is U-18 team's Manager.

Kim Jin-Gyu(In FM19, ID:5703419) is U-18 team's Coach.

Won Jong-Duk(In FM19, ID:5701067) is U-18 team's GoalKeeping Coach .

Hwang Ji-Hwan(황지환) is U-18 team's Fitness Coach.

 

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Seoul E-land's staff list is should be updated.

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Han Man-Jin should be removed.

 

Hwang Hee-Hoon(ID:5703610) is Goalkeeping Coach since 2015. (Source : https://www.transfermarkt.com/hee-hoon-hwang/leistungsdaten/spieler/264071, )

Jun Hyun-Gyu(정현규) is Fitness Coach since 2019. (https://www.yna.co.kr/view/AKR20181226122600007)

Koo Dae-Ryung(ID : 5701972) is Scout & Coach since 2019.

Ryoo Byung-Hoon(ID : 5701408) is Coach since 2019.

 

Source : (https://www.yna.co.kr/view/AKR20181226122600007, https://www.seoulelandfc.com/team/staff )

 

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Hi @Gripper I sent you a message privately regarding Doing some research for  you if you manage to get chance to have a look

 

Cheers 

Jason

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Daejeon Citizen is champion of K League in 2014. They doesn't playing 'Korean Challengers League Advanced'.

but their team member have wrong Carrer Milestones.

For example, Adriano(ID:19038577) was team member of Daejeon Citizen in 2014. but he have '2014 Winner of Korean Challengers League Advanced' as Daejeon Citizen Carrer in FM.

They should have carrer '2014 Winner of K League 2' not '2014 Winner of Korean Challengers League Advanced'.

 

Here is member list, they have same issue.

박주원 Park Joo-Woon(ID:66029001)

김한섭 Kim Han-Sup(ID:5704065)

장원석 Jang Won-Seok(ID:66006679)

안영규 Ahn Young-Gyu(ID:66014226)

임창우 Rim Chang-Woo(ID:66010090)

정석민 Jeong Seok-Min(ID:66010027)

김종국 Kim Jong-Gook(ID:66011807)

Vanderlei (ID:19152800)

Adriano(ID:19038577)

황지웅 Hwang Ji-Woong(ID:66014092)

유연승 Yoo Yeon-Seung(ID:66032137)

김상필 Kim Sang-Pil (ID:66028520)

서명원 Seo Myeong-Won (ID:66014586)

황진산 Hwang Jin-San (ID:66002999)

신동혁 Shin Dong-Hyuk (ID:19041942)

김은중 Kim Eun-Joong (ID:5701203)

김찬희 Kim Chan-Hee (ID:66014479)

김영승 Kim Yung-Seung (ID:66032138)

김성수 Kim Sung-Soo (ID:66029003)

송주한 Song Ju-Han (ID:66032143)

김선규 Kim Sun-Kyu (ID:66010067)

한상혁 Han Sang-Hyuk (ID:66032141) * He is working GoalKeeping Coach for Yuseong High School(유성 생명과학 고등학교, ID:5704284) source: https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%ED%95%9C%EC%83%81%ED%98%81_(%EC%B6%95%EA%B5%AC_%EC%84%A0%EC%88%98)

이인식 Lee In-Shik (ID:66032921)

김대중 Kim Dae-Jung (ID:66031218)

Francinilson (ID:19153809)

 

윤원일 Yoon Weon-Il (ID:66003905) * He is working coach for Ulsan Citizen FC(ID:66045534). Source : https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%EC%9C%A4%EC%9B%90%EC%9D%BC_(1986%EB%85%84), https://www.facebook.com/ulsancitizen/posts/221885585364435/

 

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Incheon

Lee Chun-Soo(ID:5701923)'s position is '전력강화부장' . this position is working negotitate player & scouting player.

I think his position should be Director of Football.

 

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As I mentioned last FM19 Forum,

 

Cho Young-Wook (66040958) played in Korea Univ. (136429) just for 2017.

Not 2015~2016.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cho_Young-wook

 

He played in 언남고 (5711541) for 2014~2016.

 

You should fix his History - Career Stats / Milestones.

Edited by SCLIM6

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Seo Kyung-Ju (서경주, ID:66044571) is not RB, RBW. he is LB, LBW.

Source : https://www.transfermarkt.com/gyeong-ju-seo/profil/spieler/645845, Seoul E-land's facebook.(please check Below Link or attached image, It's Korean, but it confirmed using their back number)

Won Ki-Jong (원기종, ID:66042567) can play as STC.

Source : Seoul E-land's facebook(please check Below Link or attached image)

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Son Heung-min is Korea A-team captain. But in this game, his leadership ability is too low. It's 5. I think captain leadership stats are 5 is too low. 

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KIM HYUNG SU who works at Suwon samsung U18 DATA ANALYST. PLEASE ADD.

CARRER : 2015-2017 - CHANG WON FC(NATIONAL LEAGUE) 2018~CURRENT - SUWON U18
DATE OF BIRTH : 1992.06.07
BORN IN BUSAN, KOREA

 

[SUWON SAMSUNG U18 STAFF]

MANAGER - KIM SEOK WOO

PHYSICAL - KIM JU PYO

REHAB - CHOI SEUNG GYU

MEDICAL - LEE GWONG HYUNG

GK COACH - KO JAE YOON

COAHES - GANG SUNG NAM / KWAK HEE JU

DATA ANALYST - KIM HYUNG SU

 

LEE JAE SUK - U15 GK GOCAH / JO JAE MIN - 1ST TEAM SCOUTER / NAM GUNG WOONG - YOUTH SCOUTER

 

IN GAMES, TEAM WANTS TO REDUCE U18 STAFF

BUT, TEAM WANTS TO DEVELOPE YOUTH TEAM.

SO, REMOVE THAT COMMENTS PLEASE.

 

 * ALL THESE CONTENTS, YOU CAN FIND COMPETITION GUIDE BOOKS. LIKE 2019 K-LEAGUE YOUTH CHAMPIONSHIPS

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some non-player's contract job data is wrong. for example, two 'Chairman' issue. some of 'Chairman' issues are below.

- In FM, Vítor José Lopes Silvestre is South Korea National Team's Chairman. it should be changed to GK Coach.

- In Fm, Heo Chang-Soo & Jang Ki-joo are FC Seoul's Chairman. Actually Jang Ki-joo is not working for FC seoul now. - source(Korean) : http://www.fcseoul.com/club/info/front.jsp , https://news.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2017/11/28/2017112802274.html

- In Fm, Kim Dong-Tak is Jeonbuk Hyundai Motors's Chairman. but he is Vice-Director. I think he should be change to Director in FM. - source(Korean) : http://www.hyundai-motorsfc.com/club/office.asp

- In Fm, Jang Yung-Bok is Pohang Steelers's Chairman. but he is Director. - source(korean) : https://sports.news.naver.com/news.nhn?oid=109&aid=0004087324

 

 

 

 

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http://www.kleagueunited.com/2020/01/news-2020-k-league-rules-changes.html

Change name & Owner change

- Two K League 2 clubs have changed their names. Asan Mugunghwa have now made the transition from a police team to a citizen club and are called Chungnam Asan Football Club. Fellow Chungnam Province neighbours Daejeon Citizen now Daejeon Hana Citizen following Hana Financial Group's takeover.

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You've had a hard time making new patches.

But after a brief look at this patch, I write because I have some problems.

The same person was duplicated.

1. Cho Suk-Young 66045860 / Cho Seok-Young 66046990

2. Jeong Ho-Keun 66045864 / Jeong Ho-Geun 66047003

 

Player's name was entered incorrectly.

1. Chung Suwon-Won 83335596 -> The right name for this player is Chung Sung-won.

(https://www.vitoriasc.pt/pt/news/index/view/chung-sungwon-chegou-a-cidade-berco)

 

The player's team and career is missing,

Koo Bon-Hyeok 45104460

https://www.transfermarkt.com/bon-hyeok-ku/profil/spieler/449052

 

The nationality of the person concerned is wrong.

Im Kwan-Shik 5701300

The nationality is set in RSA. South Korea is right nationality.

 

The team's name is still mistranslated.

66040770 is not '쳥택 시민 축구단' but '평택 시민 축구단'.

 

Thank you for your hard work.
However, I hope these problems will be corrected as soon as possible.

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On 2019. 10. 28. at 오후 11시 49분, Simon Tipple said:

Please post any data issues related to South Korea here.

As much of the data is subjective we’d ask that you respect everyone’s opinion and accept that the final decision is that of our club researchers and our heads of research.          

We also request you please adhere to the following three point plan when posting in the data topics:

·        State what you think is specifically wrong with a particular piece of data.              

·        State what you think the data should be.                            

·        State reasons/proof for your suggested corrections/improvements.                         

Please note that any non-data issues for South Korea should be posted in the appropriate thread within the League Specific Issues Forum. This would include issues such as league scheduling and league rules.

Ki Sung Yueng 66000674 FA to RCD Mallorca

(https://www.transfermarkt.com/sung-yong-ki/profil/spieler/81796)

Lee Chung-Yong 5708979 VfL Bochum to Ulsan Hyndai

(https://www.transfermarkt.com/chung-yong-lee/profil/spieler/81801)

The transfer was not reflected.

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Note that most of the reported issues above have been fixed where it does not conflict with licensing and where it was possible to do. The Ki Sung Yeung move was missed so apologies for that and the Lee Chung-Yong happened only a couple of days ago so was too late to include.

Overall we've made over 750,000 record changes for this update (there can be up to 250 fields in a record so this equates to millions of changes but we don't track individual field changes) . We can't list all changes or respond to every single report here on the forums and with so many changes to cover things can be missed and mistakes made but these will be a very small percentage (remember that only the mistakes are reported)

We really do appreciate all feedback and try to tackle them all with the resources we have.

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36 minutes ago, Woodg SI said:

Note that most of the reported issues above have been fixed where it does not conflict with licensing and where it was possible to do. The Ki Sung Yeung move was missed so apologies for that and the Lee Chung-Yong happened only a couple of days ago so was too late to include.

Overall we've made over 750,000 record changes for this update (there can be up to 250 fields in a record so this equates to millions of changes but we don't track individual field changes) . We can't list all changes or respond to every single report here on the forums and with so many changes to cover things can be missed and mistakes made but these will be a very small percentage (remember that only the mistakes are reported)

We really do appreciate all feedback and try to tackle them all with the resources we have.

I apologise for writing nervously. But really, this is an important issue. The question of whether it was reflected or not and to what extent it is applicable. Just upload it and make sure that each user is reflected in the next patch. The administrative section of Korea may provide necessary information if it is difficult for you to collect it. It's not that difficult. Because we're making our own rosters. I just hope we can communicate better with each other. I hope you think that writing here is also an expression of healthy interest. P.S. Is the data surveyor who provides information about South Korea not Korean or knows about this place? If so, please let me know how to give them information. Or give me a form to provide you with information.

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6 hours ago, Woodg SI said:

Note that most of the reported issues above have been fixed where it does not conflict with licensing and where it was possible to do. The Ki Sung Yeung move was missed so apologies for that and the Lee Chung-Yong happened only a couple of days ago so was too late to include.

Overall we've made over 750,000 record changes for this update (there can be up to 250 fields in a record so this equates to millions of changes but we don't track individual field changes) . We can't list all changes or respond to every single report here on the forums and with so many changes to cover things can be missed and mistakes made but these will be a very small percentage (remember that only the mistakes are reported)

We really do appreciate all feedback and try to tackle them all with the resources we have.

66043327 is not '정원 대학교' but '중원 대학교'.

66045526 is not '월 마운틴 FC(Wall Mountain FC)' but '벽산 FC(Byuksan Football Club)'. /official facebook(https://www.facebook.com/gobyucksan/?epa=SEARCH_BOX) /wiki(https://namu.wiki/w/서울 벽산 플레이어스 FC)

66045527 is not '용인 지역 클럽(Yongin Social Club)' but '용인 축구회(Yongin FC **It's different from the team that used to be in the database, 축구회 means an amateur soccer club. a friendly football team) This is the KFA's posting of them.(https://m.post.naver.com/viewer/postView.nhn?volumeNo=16268891&memberNo=17035333)

66045528 is not '안산 타임 골 FC(Ansan Time Goal FC)' but '안산 각골 축구회(Ansan Gakgol 축구회)' The club is in 안산시(Ansan-si)

66045528 is not 'FC 동 파인 화학(FC East Fine Chemistry)' but 'FC 동우화인켐(FC DongWoo Fine-Chem)' The club is in 평택시(Pyeongtaek-si). This club is a soccer club that works for this company.(https://recruit.dwchem.co.kr/main/index.jsp)

66045530 is not '동 두천 FC(East Ducheon FC)' but '동두천시 ONE TEAM(Dongducheonsi ONE TEAM)' The club is in 동두천시(Dongducheon-si)

66045531 is not 'FC 인천 타워(FC Incheon Tower)' but '인천 송월 FC(Incheon Songwol FC) or 송월 FC(Songwol FC)' The club is in 중구(Jung-gu), 인천광역시(Incheon Metropolitan City) / wiki(https://namu.wiki/w/인천 송월 FC?from=인천중구송월FC)

66045532 is not '대전 대덕 스타즈(Daejeon Daeduk Stars)' but '대전 위너스타 FC(Daejeon Winner Star FC)' The club is in 대덕구(Daedeok-gu), 대전광역시(Daejeon Metropolitan City) / wiki(https://namu.wiki/w/대전 위너스타 FC?from=대전 대덕 위너스타 FC)

66045533 is not '북 광주 해군(North Gwangju Navy)' but '광주 북구 해병대 축구단(Gwangju Bukgu Navy FC)' The club is in 북구(Buk-gu), 광주광역시(Gwangju Metropolitan City) / This is the KFA's posting of them.(https://post.naver.com/viewer/postView.nhn?volumeNo=18206529&memberNo=17035333)

66043326 is not 'CL Fire' but 'SL 라이팅 FC(SL Lighting FC)' The club is in 천안시(Cheonan-si) / This club is a football club that works for this company(https://www.slworld.com/Korea/Field/korea_01.asp)

66043322 is not '소아 비트리(SoAH BeTree)' but '세아베스틸(SeAH Besteel)' The club is in 군산시(Gunsan-si) / This club is a football club that works for this company(https://www.seahbesteel.co.kr/main.jsp) / It's an article about this team.(http://www.footballjournal.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=8060)

66043319  is not '대전 트라이앵글 코퍼레이션(Daejeon Triangle Corporation)' but '대전도시공사 둥글이(Daejeon City Corporation(DCCO) Dunggeuri)' The club is in 대전광역시(Daejeon Metropolitan City), It is a list of matches at that time.(https://m.blog.naver.com/dufmedia/221215172611) / This club is a soccer club that works for this company(http://www.dcco.kr/)

66040769  is not '무한 화학(Moohan Chemistry)' but '유한 화학(Yuhan Chemistry)' This club is a football club that works for this company(http://www.yuhanchem.co.kr/) / The club is in 안산시(Ansan-si) This is the KFA's posting of them.(https://post.naver.com/viewer/postView.nhn?volumeNo=6794568&memberNo=17035333)

66040768 is not '고려 타이어(Koryo Tyre)' but '한국 타이어(Hankook Tire)'. This club is a football club that works for this company(https://www.hankooktire.com/global/), The club is in 대전광역시(Daejeon Metropolitan City)

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6 hours ago, Woodg SI said:

Note that most of the reported issues above have been fixed where it does not conflict with licensing and where it was possible to do. The Ki Sung Yeung move was missed so apologies for that and the Lee Chung-Yong happened only a couple of days ago so was too late to include.

Overall we've made over 750,000 record changes for this update (there can be up to 250 fields in a record so this equates to millions of changes but we don't track individual field changes) . We can't list all changes or respond to every single report here on the forums and with so many changes to cover things can be missed and mistakes made but these will be a very small percentage (remember that only the mistakes are reported)

We really do appreciate all feedback and try to tackle them all with the resources we have.

About,club Asan Mugunghwa(136424)

With the end of the 2019 season, Asan Mugunghwa Football Team has been disbanded and disappeared into the history of the National Police Agency. Since then, Asan FC of South Chungcheong Province will take part in the K League 2 in the 2020 season as the foundation was decided by succeeding Asan Mugunghwa.

Strictly speaking, the two clubs are separate clubs. This part has not been reflected at all. What a disappointment.

Asan FC should be newly added to the database. 

 

About, club Daejeon Citizen(130774)

Daejeon Hana Citizen is a K League 2 professional football team based in Daejeon Metropolitan City. It will take over the rights and assets of its former citizen club Daejeon Citizen to join the K League 2 in the 2020 season.
Among K-League soccer teams, a foundation established by a company is apparently running a soccer team. This is because it is impossible to acquire stocks directly from KEB Hana Bank from existing major shareholders of Daejeon Citizen because of Korea's 'policy of separating bank capital from industrial capital.' Therefore, Daejeon Citizen became the third Korean club in K League history to sell its soccer team business to a foundation corporation, after FC Anyang and Suwon FC.

Unlike the former, the two clubs are the same. So you should change the name and ownership of the club.

The new name is 대전 하나 시티즌(Daejeon Hana Citizen)

 

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