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On 02/11/2019 at 16:05, Kubohype said:

Takefusa Kubo's pass is 15, way too high, in relations with both adult members and other youth members in Spain. Considering Kubo's performance in Spain, he is overrated. Frankly speaking, he's potential range should go down as well. -8 seems appropriate, unless there is a clear basis, other than Japanese hype train, that Kubo will outperform Kagawa Shinji. Currently, expectation of him seems to be based on two facts, that he is a youth in prestigious team, and Japanese fans think that he is going to become Japanese Messi. 

It’s no coincidence that SEGA is a japanese company. 

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Tercera Division teams:

Racing Murcia are not in the game.(https://www.transfermarkt.com/racing-murcia-fc/startseite/verein/75083)  -note that if you add the team Archie Thompson no longer plays for them (https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/video/1632308803779/archie-thompson-missed-spain?playlist=latest-videos-twg&fbclid=IwAR1xjSwOz0t4Ydc2sIM1u24IDUMbW_ZenqnLEXzLGpkL9Dof_ZJ5F35PTio)

This is also true for La Union Atletico (Murcia) and miscellaneous others.

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André Costa ya desde el año pasado estaba en los juveniles del Rayo Vallecano, este año está en los juevniles del leganes y se le conoce como André Luque

Sanse ( Raúl San Segundo) se fue al Jerez CF

Ivan Riveiro (Iván Riveiro Vallose fue al Silva SD

Saúl Garcia (Saúl Garcia Darriba) se fue al Gimnastica de Torrelavega

Álvaro Martín de Frías juega de extremo izquierdo (MPI)

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In case the SI team is still not sure about adding Luis Carbonell into the game. Here I post some links. He's one of the best striker of his generation and he is playing really good in the Youth League and the U-19 Spanish League, so his CA/PA should also reflect that. He's been pretended by big teams such as FC Barcelona.

https://www.elperiodicodearagon.com/noticias/realzaragoza/cuidado-monstruo_1394716.html

https://www.heraldo.es/noticias/deportes/futbol/real-zaragoza/2019/11/07/luis-carbonell-en-el-nombre-del-gol-en-el-real-zaragoza-1342613.html

He has a very speacial contract until 2023 with an ascending release clause (500000€ each season):

https://www.elperiodicodearagon.com/noticias/realzaragoza/clausula-rescision-luis-carbonell-es-ascendente-ahora-situa-1-5-millones-euros_1393400.html+

EDIT: 

I don't really know if Club Vision inaccuracies belong to this topic but here I go:

Current Real Zaragoza Club Vision is as follows:

 

Spoiler

 

- CLUB CULTURE:

  • Sign players under 23

- ONGOING/FIVE YEAR PLAN

  • Work within wage budget
  • Max. Contract Length of 1 year for Players Over 34 
  • Min. Contract Length of 3 years for First Team Players 
  • 19/20 season reach 2nd division playoff
  • 20/21 promotion

 

 

 

 

Club Vision should be more like this:

Spoiler

 

- CLUB CULTURE:

  • Sign players under 23 (it doesn't make much sense because age hasn't been taken into account for the latest signings)
  • Develop Young Players  (This one fits more as the club is currently using a lot of home-grown players in the First Team and the board want to use junior for the future so would make sense to add this one. Also, U-19 Real Zaragoza players has a lot of potential)

- ONGOING/FIVE YEAR PLAN

 

 

Edited by RotDob

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Can we look at reducing the Home reputation of Hospitalet's Gabriel Cichero (8829890).  He starts the game in the Venezuelan NT but he hasn't really been a part of that for a while and isn't anywhere near the squad these days

 

Malaga

Juanpi's (67142869) full name is Juan Pablo Añor Acosta 

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On this beta version Mickaël Gaffoor is playing by Andorra C.F. (lower leagues) but actually he's playing for Piqué's side F.C. Andorra of 2nd division B Group 3.

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I think Moussa Wague is a bit too highly rated in the game as he is yet to prove himself at the highest level on a consistent basis. He would be a leading player in most La Liga teams and outshine many already established players on the division. The potential should remain high but his CA could do with a good downgrade imo.

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In game the player Martin Ødegaard from Real Madrid is loaned out to Real Sociedad, as he is in real life.
Except his loan length is set at 2 years, when in fact his loan contract is 1 year with an option to extend for an additional season after his first year.

When playing a save as Real Madrid you should have the option to recall Martin Ødegaard during the summer transfer window of 2020, as would be possible in real life. Whereas in game, it is not possible to recall Martin Ødegaard after the first year loaned out, you do not get the option to recall him after his first year.

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Cristian Português (Real Sociedad)

Surprisingly, he has scored a total of 28 goals in the last three seasons (in La Liga).
And this season, he also has 4 goals and 3 assists in 12 matches.
He is without doubt the ace of Real Sociedad this season.

But, why are his finishing and composure stats below 13?
I don't understand.
Now he is used as a rotation member for Real Sociedad in FM2020.

And in fact, his position is almost a winger. LW or RW (The game says he's a CAM).

I hope you will make it realistic soon.
Thank you.

Edited by lookass

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Hugo  Diaz (67216726) has one league appearance listed in his history for Leeds United for the season 2018/19 when he did not make a single appearance for the first team that season. He did play in one league game in 2017/18 which is accurately reflected in his history but 2018/19 should show no appearances.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/hugo-diaz/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/534697/plus/0?saison=2018&verein=&liga=&wettbewerb=&pos=&trainer_id=

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Ferrol (1727) have an incorrect history record for 2016/17 showing that they competed in Third Division Group 1 for that year which needs removing. They have a correct record for that year also showing that they finished in 7th place in Segunda B1 so that can stay but the Third Division Group 1 record needs deleting.

The stats that Ferrol have in the 2016/17 for Third Division Group 1 season actually relates to RC Villabes (814059) who happen to have that season missing from their history.

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Rafinha and Denis Suarez have salaries of 5.8M and 4.7M annually, respectively. These salaries are totally disproportionate and unreal and unaffordable for a team like Celta de Vigo. Only those 2 players take a large part of the team's salary budget, which makes the game unreal. I do not know the exact real figures, but I assure you that they do not reach 2M or 3M annually in any of the 2 cases ... since Iago Aspas is the best paid in the workforce and does not reach them.

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On 02/11/2019 at 07:47, Bigpole said:

I'd like to check if wages of some players in Primera Division

- Sandro (Valladolid) ears 78k, average salary in club is around 8-15k

@Zoiberg I was going to mention this for the Everton researcher but perhaps it's better for you for the January update, I've seen Sandro's wages on his Everton contract often reported as being more like £120,000 than what they are currently set as, e.g. : https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-set-loan-fee-misfit-14202278

I haven't seen anything to suggest what % Valladolid are paying but there's comments here that suggest that Everton are still paying the majority of it and their contribution is probably in line with what they'd normally pay a player of his status: "Salary is a confidential issue, but Everton have behaved quite well with us." http://sportwitness.co.uk/valladolid-director-praises-everton-sandro-deal-explains-loan-decision/

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10 hours ago, Schwoods said:

@Zoiberg I was going to mention this for the Everton researcher but perhaps it's better for you for the January update, I've seen Sandro's wages on his Everton contract often reported as being more like £120,000 than what they are currently set as, e.g. : https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-set-loan-fee-misfit-14202278

I haven't seen anything to suggest what % Valladolid are paying but there's comments here that suggest that Everton are still paying the majority of it and their contribution is probably in line with what they'd normally pay a player of his status: "Salary is a confidential issue, but Everton have behaved quite well with us." http://sportwitness.co.uk/valladolid-director-praises-everton-sandro-deal-explains-loan-decision/

Hi @Schwoods thanks, already talked about this with Pete, and will have it sorted ASAP. Valladolid pays around 1M€ wages of Sandro, and his wages at Everton will be lowered.

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On 07/11/2019 at 10:07, Jamadi said:

Hi, some more suggestions for Levante:

Data issues:

- Not sure if this is related to data or not, but Levante stadium architecture is wrong this year and has nothing to do with his real counterpart. In FM20 the stadium has no stands in the corners, when Ciutat de Valencia has no open spaces in the corners. This is weird because in previous FMs the stadium generated for Levante was ok, similar enough to the real one, so this issue is completely new.  I think this would be very important to be fixed for the release, because this makes the immersion to the game much worse when you see the matches with the 3D engine. The solution should be easy, just assign the same stadium as FM19.

 - The kits are not updated, and 2nd and 3th kits are completely different this year.

...

Hello, 

The kits were already updated in the yesterday's beta update, but the stadium issue is still there.

As stated by SI staff in the following post, this is an issue for the researchers to solve: 

I put the images here as well:

Levante stadium in FM19 (right design):

ciutatdevalenciafm19.thumb.jpg.7cdab46bf7aa27f8c651ded8b6f2a9fa.jpg

Levante stadium in FM20 (wrong design):

ciutatvalenciafm20.thumb.jpg.15301b5ee3e88c7d4f53579a7ba3e737.jpg

 

@Zoiberg could you get this fixed for release?

Many thanks.

 

 

 

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Messi's CA is set too low, meaning he declines in every save very quickly. Loses all his 20s apart from flair and determination which are obviously non CA-based

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On 04/11/2019 at 22:35, andremengao said:
 
Please, regarding staff, we need the following adjustments for Deportivo:
 
CT A:
Remove Hernando:
 
 
MT A:
Remove Dieguez and Alvarino, add Carbó:
 
Scouting A:
Please remove Tito, Belo and Devesa, and add the ones below as possible:
 
For B, there is a bug posted, so I can't see the members to comment...
 
U19:
All 5 members, from Manager to Physio shall be adjusted:
 
Regarding the Sponsorship table for spanish second division, there is also a problem, as most of teams does not have money from sponsor, and Depor is 1st, where shall not, at least considering the new rich Almeria.
 
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@Zoiberg, are these points regarding transfers, players in and out and staff being checked? I've got no answer from you since August 14th.
 
Many thanks.
 
Kind regards,

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Marc Roca is probably the best passer of the ball in the league, think his passing is set to 13? I thought his defensive attributes (positioning/tackling) were probably slightly too high though 

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13 hours ago, andremengao said:
 
Please, regarding staff, we need the following adjustments for Deportivo:
 
CT A:
Remove Hernando:
 
 
MT A:
Remove Dieguez and Alvarino, add Carbó:
 
Scouting A:
Please remove Tito, Belo and Devesa, and add the ones below as possible:
 
For B, there is a bug posted, so I can't see the members to comment...
 
U19:
All 5 members, from Manager to Physio shall be adjusted:
 
Regarding the Sponsorship table for spanish second division, there is also a problem, as most of teams does not have money from sponsor, and Depor is 1st, where shall not, at least considering the new rich Almeria.
 
image.thumb.png.dcfc7dba002bb1a26d36531eb3402d9c.png
 
@Zoiberg, are these points regarding transfers, players in and out and staff being checked? I've got no answer from you since August 14th.
 
Many thanks.
 
Kind regards,

Most of this should be fixed for release.

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Hey, 

Javi Puado goes on loan from Espanyol to Real Zaragoza for 1 year and will pay the 100% of his wage.

https://www.heraldo.es/noticias/deportes/futbol/real-zaragoza/2019/11/16/el-real-zaragoza-confirma-la-cesion-de-puado-1344307.html

This move comes as part of the special option Real Zaragoza had to sign a player because of Dwamena's long term injury (heart issues, probably retiring). So Dwamena is no longer playing for Zaragoza.

https://macholevante.com/la-lfp-comunica-la-baja-de-dwamena-como-jugador-del-real-zaragoza-por-su-patologia-cardiaca/

I don't know if this move should be in for the release or it will be part of the winter update.

Thanks!

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Hiya,

CE Sabadell (ID:1675) (2B spanish Group 3) has wrong staff.

  • Javier Pérez (dir. youth academy) was sacked out few years ago.
  • Genís (Chief Scout) was sacked out few years ago too.

  • Pep Molet (Scout) was sacked out.

  • Daniel Soteras (Under19 manager) out.

  • Second team's manager (Toni Rodriguez) was sacked too.

(http://www.cesabadell.cat/es/primer-equipo/plantilla/sabadell/3)

 

The player Iosu Ozkoidi can also play as Left Winger, in fact he has been playing in that position last two seasons. It could be interesting if you add him the hability to play good at this position.

(You can check in CE Sabadell's website Iosu's main position (left winger): http://www.cesabadell.cat/es/primer-equipo/plantilla/sabadell )

Edited by alcasanc

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Elche averaging 30000+ in game (FMT but presumably full fat game too?) - only averaging 9000 after 8 games in real life. 

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Abut CD Leganes:

Leganes has 10% of future transfer of Thomas Partey

https://as.com/futbol/2019/01/07/primera/1546886040_476709.html

Facundo Garcia

The 50% of next transfer is going to Olimpo

En-Nesiry

15 millions € deal for Malaga is over. No longer exist.

Szyanowski has spanish nationality too

https://as.com/futbol/2019/07/18/primera/1563457955_632244.html

IR Tanger Affiliated team

https://www.cdleganes.com/noticia/el-c-d-leganes-firma-un-acuerdo-de-colaboracion-con-el-ittihad-de-tanger

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- Gerard Moreno should have a value for right wing, been playing there quite a bit. Also feel like a ppm of likes to lob keeper.

- Alex Mula is right footed.

- Mario Hermoso has incorrect Height, Weight and Jumping. Height should be 184cm, weight should be 75 and since his height is wrong his jumping should increase.

- Guidetti seems a bit overrated, I just suggest a new review.

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Ander Barrenetxea should be more filled out. Skin colour etc. Plus his height should be 178cm and he is right footed not left.

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Sime Vrsaljko of Atletico Madrid has a transfer fee of 6.5M euros on history page for returning to them after last year's loan. Obviously a mistake.

Edited by Seqw

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On 2019. 11. 20. at 오후 9시 16분, elGordo said:

Ander Barrenetxea should be more filled out. Skin colour etc. Plus his height should be 178cm and he is right footed not left.

Hi, @elGordo?
You can solve the problem by using this. geeekyPDC.fmf
Thank you.

Edited by lookass
hanging a file.

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The council appears as the owner of the Levante stadium (Ciutat de Valencia), this should be changed as in real life the owner is the club. Also the build date is wrong, this should be 9/9/1969:

https://eldesmarque.com/valencia/levante-ud/208056-el-levante-cumple-110-anos-y-el-ciutat-de-valencia-celebra-su-50-aniversario-2

Edited by Jamadi

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Maybe it's time to assign a fixed PA to Martin Ødegaard? He's now 21 and has played a few full senior seasons.

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A boo boo has been made  for Villarreal.

boo booo.PNG

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Hi!

Clarify me please why Almeria's owner has chairman status 1000 only, if he just joined to club and ready to invest money?

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Jan Oblak - his consistency  should be raised above any keeper in the game, and since several of the other top keepers has got 17, I believe Oblak should have somewhere in the rate of 18-20. 

I just cant see what more he can do, he has more clean sheets than any other top keeper and been the best goal keeper in La Liga for 4 or 5 seasons in a row, if thats not consistency - what is?

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I might be wrong on this, but something tells me salaries in Segunda B1, B2, B3 and B4 are quite off. Several players earning €15,000 - €25,000 per month, surely it is not so high in real life? (playing with Marbella FC) where by the way, they have new owners since 2018, which are not reflected in the game (http://www.surinenglish.com/sport/201811/20/chinese-group-completes-purchase-20181120142345.html)  and here it is in Spanish https://www.marca.com/futbol/mas-futbol/segunda-b-grupo-iiii/2018/11/19/5bf2f0a146163f6b978b4580.html
 

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7 hours ago, sweem said:

I might be wrong on this, but something tells me salaries in Segunda B1, B2, B3 and B4 are quite off. Several players earning €15,000 - €25,000 per month, surely it is not so high in real life? (playing with Marbella FC) where by the way, they have new owners since 2018, which are not reflected in the game (http://www.surinenglish.com/sport/201811/20/chinese-group-completes-purchase-20181120142345.html)  and here it is in Spanish https://www.marca.com/futbol/mas-futbol/segunda-b-grupo-iiii/2018/11/19/5bf2f0a146163f6b978b4580.html
 

I told them about the owners during the beta, still nothing changes

EDIT: not only that, the ex-president seems not to sell the club in the game after the 5 seasons i've been playing the club, he always refuse all trades xD 

Edited by HanLolo
More info after seasons

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Álvaro Morata ID:67117360 has his first part of the 18-19 season history with Chelsea missing (before he went on loan to Atl. Madrid). He should have 16 matches and 5 goals.

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Real Madrid's Rodrygo natural fitness is all over the place. I create new games very often (don't ask) and sometimes the value of his natural fitness is 3 or 5 witch is REALLY unrealistic and other times is 14 or 15. Once I checked and it was 20 !

This happened in another FM with Marcus Rashford. Would this be considered a bug ?

Cheers

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