AbdelBarrada Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Hello, I want to share my tactical approach with Leeds United and ask your advice for possible improvements Current Situation So far we're doing very well with 1. in the Championship and win 5 matches out of 7. Player Statistics Goals Patric Bamford 5 (league leader), Pablo Hernandez 3, Kalvin Philips 2, Helder Costa, Stuart Dallas 1 Assists Pablo Hernandez 3 Mateusz Klich 2 Helder Costa, Jacke Clarke, Kalvin Philips, Luke Ayling, Gaetano Berardi 1 My Tactical Approach In posession: I want all team to support attacks so positive mentality I want possesion football, so shorter passing and PoD I use positive mentality because I want to give Pablo Hernandez (my most talented createtor) big space to operate Transition/Out of posession I want to get ball as soon as possible so High Press and Counter If opponent can play behind my defence I change Prevent GK distribution and change Higher defensive line to Standart Player Instructions Pablo Hernandez -> Roam From Position to give him more freedom Helder Costa -> Get further forward to use his speed I have some thougts and questions about my tactic: I know that generally #10's work with #9's. Pablo Hernandez is my absolute #10 but when I use him with my Advanced Forwards Tyler Roberts and Eddie Nketiah both of them play bad, so I'm ussing another #10 Patrick Bamford as DLF-Su, any idea? When I see Leeds Squad my first thought about scoring goals was using Hernandez's passing, and my right side's crossing ability (Clarke & Ayling), and using Helder Costa's pace (Accelaration 16, Agility 15, Pace 15) and exploit left side of the opponent, but I score only 1 goal with this approach, any advice? Generally my opponents positioned themselves as above so hard to make this happens and my only solutions is makeing my fullbacks WB-su and overlap both sides to strech them, any idea on creating space? Thank you, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Experienced Defender Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 hour ago, AbdelBarrada said: I want possesion football, so shorter passing and PoD Short pass & PoD are okay, but AP on attack duty is more suited to counter-attacking and fast attacking styles. 1 hour ago, AbdelBarrada said: I use positive mentality because I want to give Pablo Hernandez (my most talented createtor) big space to operate Based on what do you believe that positive (or any particular) mentality is what gives a player "big space to operate"? 1 hour ago, AbdelBarrada said: Helder Costa -> Get further forward to use his speed As an IF on attack duty, he is already hard-coded to get further forward. 1 hour ago, AbdelBarrada said: I want to get ball as soon as possible so High Press and Counter I guess you meant Counter-press, not Counter? 1 hour ago, AbdelBarrada said: 1 hour ago, AbdelBarrada said: So far we're doing very well with 1. in the Championship and win 5 matches out of 7 If you are doing so well (as you obviously are, given the league table), then don't make changes to your tactic (so long as you are getting results). Because changing a tactic that works can (sometimes) do more harm than good, even if the changes are logical and sensible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robson 07 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Looks a good system on the face of it. Personally I'd let it run as it is for now. Think it will do well in the Championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbdelBarrada Posted October 8, 2019 Author Share Posted October 8, 2019 15 hours ago, Experienced Defender said: Short pass & PoD are okay, but AP on attack duty is more suited to counter-attacking and fast attacking styles. Based on what do you believe that positive (or any particular) mentality is what gives a player "big space to operate"? As an IF on attack duty, he is already hard-coded to get further forward. I guess you meant Counter-press, not Counter? If you are doing so well (as you obviously are, given the league table), then don't make changes to your tactic (so long as you are getting results). Because changing a tactic that works can (sometimes) do more harm than good, even if the changes are logical and sensible. @Experienced Defender thank you for your suggestions Pablo Hernandez frequently comes to deep I think because of "Dictates Tempo" trait, so I leave him as an AP-a I changed Attacking Width to Wide from Extremely Wide because of Positive mentality you mentioned I only change the place of my right and left winger because I want to use my Right back as WB-su (Luke Ayling has a "Get forward whenever possible" trait) so I will use my left back as IWB-Su, and also Helder Costa is naturally left footed My recent tactic: We beat Cardiff 3-0 and we're at 1st place with 21 points @Robson 07 thank you, hope we will move up to Premier Leage at the end of the season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 17 hours ago, AbdelBarrada said: I have some thougts and questions about my tactic: I know that generally #10's work with #9's. Pablo Hernandez is my absolute #10 but when I use him with my Advanced Forwards Tyler Roberts and Eddie Nketiah both of them play bad, so I'm ussing another #10 Patrick Bamford as DLF-Su, any idea? When I see Leeds Squad my first thought about scoring goals was using Hernandez's passing, and my right side's crossing ability (Clarke & Ayling), and using Helder Costa's pace (Accelaration 16, Agility 15, Pace 15) and exploit left side of the opponent, but I score only 1 goal with this approach, any advice? Generally my opponents positioned themselves as above so hard to make this happens and my only solutions is makeing my fullbacks WB-su and overlap both sides to strech them, any idea on creating space? Thank you, Bamford has 5 goals in presumably 7 games so something up top is working Working the ball into the box will hinder your IF-A, the main supply to him should be crosses coming him from the right to the far post & balls from your AP-A, I think an AP-S might be a better choice to supply him then have Bamford on DLF-A so that he isn't pushing the backline back That box doesn't look too packed, it's 3 v 5 but as above, WBIB isn't a great choice, the ingame hints & tips suggests this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbdelBarrada Posted October 8, 2019 Author Share Posted October 8, 2019 @Johnny Ace thank you, I remove WBIB and my shot conversion rate increased surprisingly I Use Bamford as DLF-Su becase he has a player trait "comes to get deep" and my idea is Bamford to pull one central defender and create some space for Helder Costa (IF-A) is it logical? This is Helder Costa's latest goal to Cardiff I always try to make. Pablo Hernandez comes to deep to collect ball, by he pass the left wing Costa starting to run behind the defence and scores with whipped cross. But I think this works only against to high defensive lines, hard to score against deep lines with this way 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Great goal, that's the sort of thing I was on about @AbdelBarrada Even with a move further up the pitch he'll be able to attack the far post & score Yes, Bamford dropping deeper will help with Costa getting on the end of moves, hopefully Bamford will be one of the ones supplying him. Just keep an eye on Hernandez & Bamford, the DLF-S & AP-A isn't a combo I've worked with before, just check both aren't sitting in the same area 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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