larnson Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 I'm trying to identify promising new regens (without using the in-game editor), and was wondering if there was any consensus on which attributes pointed to a player likely becoming a wonderkid, rather than waiting for my scouts to spot them. In previous games Determination was a key one, but I believe that has now changed. I tend to look for youngsters with surprisingly high mental attributes like Anticipation, Vision, Flair and Decisions, as well as good Technique. It doesn't seem to be working very well for me... Has anyone had any success doing this? Or do I need to keep waiting for my scouts to stumble across promising players.... Grateful for your thoughts! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0ni42 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 I’ve but a scouting template that starts by weeding out all the unfavorable personalities. Sure you can change and improve them over time but it’s a good first filter. Secondly, I identify a few attributes by position to again narrow the field. I don’t specifically filter for a single attribute to apply to all but certainly key in on a few as I’m looking at what is left from first two filters (work rate, teamwork, passing). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
larnson Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 Ahh, interesting. I hadn't thought about personalities at all, but that is a sensible first step. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wearesporting Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Well are you a fit players to your tactics guy or change tactics depending on what players you have guy generally? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Obviously the technical attributes for their position are important, but I have always put a lot of importance onto determination especially in young players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrenwwr Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Depends on the tactic and positions. Athletic attributes count for a lot. And more so wrt the position on the field. It's the spice of life your tactic can become completely useless Bc of eventually having all the wrong players and we blame the ME! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rien102 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Personnality filtering first, then I go to mental basic skills: Determination first but also Bravery (anywhere on the pitch except for some forwards, 10 to 12 is the absolute minimum for me) and teamwork (how high depends on the position) because I found it is one of the most difficult to improve since you can't focus directly on it (like dribbling for example). Physically, QPN of 12 combined with decent endurance and speed at start so you can focus on technical skills related to roles faster (instead of using the first two years to make the player tough enough to play complete games in heavy calendars...) In the end though, passed the attributes, it's all about game time and, for me, when I identify a newgen that is really promising, as soon as he hit the eighteen years old mark, he gets at least 10 subs of at least 20 minutes in the season he get to eighteen and the season after that, he starts at least 10 games plus subbing in 10 others. Of course it's preferable he's able to get decent marks (7.5 rating and more) but I found out that the year he get starts (don't need to be full games), I find that the attributes shot up, no matter what (or close to no matter what)... A really good prospect often hits his full potential by the age of 21 that way (at least for me) if I keep him or, otherwise, since his attributes go up really fast, when he's wanted, the bids are usually a better... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earnie is God! Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I find it more depends on what kind of team you want to build and how you want them to play. For me: All players ------------- Determination Work Rate Natural Fitness Stamina (Bravery) Attacking players ---------------------- Finishing Anticipation Off the ball Acceleration Agility Balance Support players -------------------- Passing Decisions Off the ball (positioning) Vision Defensive players ---------------------- Tackling Marking Anticipation Concentration Positioning Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hovis Dexter Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Personality and determination definitely but I stlll can’t bring myself to reject that player in my youth intake with 4 potential stars even if he has no ambition and determination of 2. I always think I should reject him but end up giving him a contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblongata21 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I thought professionalism also counted, along with ambition and determination Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNT3R Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 17 minutes ago, oblongata21 said: I thought professionalism also counted, along with ambition and determination In terms of development, all 3 are equally important, yes. All 3 are part of a personality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rien102 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 il y a 17 minutes, oblongata21 a dit : I thought professionalism also counted, along with ambition and determination Professionnalism and ambition are hidden attributes that can be seen only through personnality if you don't use editor. Yes they are but they are not "clear on the screen" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
herne79 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 It's perfectly possible to have a potential wonderkid with a poor personality and rubbish Determination. Likewise it's also possible to have a player with a great personality who'll only ever be good enough for the lower leagues. So keep most (if not all) newgens until at least the end of the season. That way your coaching staff will have a much better picture of their potential (read their reports and check the star ratings) and you can see how players are starting to develop. Making decisions within just a few days of youth intake day will give you a relatively narrow and often incorrect picture of the youngsters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yolixeya Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I don't think any specific attribute points to newgen succeeding. What I look for is a good CA for his age and good PA perceived by your scouts. Positive personality is preferable but I'll take the neutral ones like blanced also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hovis Dexter Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 3 hours ago, herne79 said: It's perfectly possible to have a potential wonderkid with a poor personality and rubbish Determination. Likewise it's also possible to have a player with a great personality who'll only ever be good enough for the lower leagues. So keep most (if not all) newgens until at least the end of the season. That way your coaching staff will have a much better picture of their potential (read their reports and check the star ratings) and you can see how players are starting to develop. Making decisions within just a few days of youth intake day will give you a relatively narrow and often incorrect picture of the youngsters. Hmm. Interesting. Food for thought. I'll give this a go in future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hovis Dexter Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 11 hours ago, Earnie is God! said: All players ------------- Determination Work Rate Natural Fitness Stamina (Bravery) etc cut for space A good list thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ben Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 4 hours ago, herne79 said: It's perfectly possible to have a potential wonderkid with a poor personality and rubbish Determination. Likewise it's also possible to have a player with a great personality who'll only ever be good enough for the lower leagues. So keep most (if not all) newgens until at least the end of the season. That way your coaching staff will have a much better picture of their potential (read their reports and check the star ratings) and you can see how players are starting to develop. Making decisions within just a few days of youth intake day will give you a relatively narrow and often incorrect picture of the youngsters. Good idea this. The OCD in me doesn't like to flood the youth team with too many players though, so yep i make rash decisions as I figure i'll never know either way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
larnson Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 Thanks for all the suggestions. I agree with the point about the importance of picking attributes to match the position. I guess what I was looking for was key attributes to look for when I'm scouting the worlds markets, to point my scouts in the right direction! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earnie is God! Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I stick by: DeterminationWork RateNatural FitnessStamina(Bravery) => perhaps not quite as important and a little leeway here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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