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JoseRR's FM09 Big Euro Nation Challenge!

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Introduction

Welcome to the second season of the European Small Club to Big Club From a Big European Nation Challenge. (A bit wordy I know but it does exactly what it says on the tin I suppose :D) - this challenge is all about taking one of those bigger nation small clubs to glory.

The Aim

To take a small club who were previously unplayable in the game from the lower divisions of a nation outlined below, leading them to success in their national top division and ultimately to achieve Champions League glory.

The Possible Countries

The available countries for this challenge have been deemed “too big” for previous challenges of this type. The ‘Big European Nations’ chosen are:

Holland

France

Spain

Italy

Portugal

Germany

League Reset Dates

Based on FM08, a list of all the league reset dates (TBC) are shown below. If you have found any changes to this, please let me know.

  
France     -   19th June
Germany    -   19th June
Italy      -   29th June
Portugal   -   23rd June
Spain      -   9th July

The Rules -Playing

Load a game with all the available divisions within the nation you selected only (only one nation is allowed).

A large database should be ticked (although you are free to choose a medium or small database option if you wish). Any official SI patch may be used, but no other edited databases can be used for this challenge.

Attribute masking should be enabled, with no additional players from any nation loaded.

The extra levels of detail that you can change while in the game are up to you, as they shouldn't make a difference. It is advised that you select ‘Load all Players’ for the country you are in. (This has been proven to provide you with over 50% more players in some countries!)

Add yourself as an unemployed manager, the details are not important at all, as you will not use this man to manage your club.

Go on holiday until the reset date of your chosen nation, this shouldn't take that long, perhaps about an hour. Saving on the day before this date may give you a better choice of teams by reloading the game then going on holiday for one day, I would strongly recommend trying this.

Retire your unemployed manager. Add a new manager, the options are up to you but 'past experience' must be set to the lowest possible which is 'Sunday league footballer'. I understand that choosing different nationalities may have an effect later on, but I trust people will be sensible with this. I would expect people to use their own true nationalities.

Then choose to take over any club which has been promoted to the bottom playable league of your nation.

You must now manage this club to the national top division title, then progress to be champions of Europe. This doesn’t have to occur in the same season, just with the same club. Should you be sacked at any point during the game, you may either re-start the challenge with a new team and a new save game, or you may wish to continue on your current save game, taking over a club at the end of the season under the same rules as before.

There are no restrictions on parent and feeder clubs, and you must be able to scout a player before you buy them - you don’t have to actually scout them, just that the option is available.

The use of any external utilities and editors (Such as Genie Scout or FMM) are prohibited.

The Rules - Posting

Player naming is allowed. (This is a warning for those of you who do not wish to see this)

Discussion on tactics is allowed. (This is another warning for those of you who do not wish to see this)

Please use screenshots for any aspect of your game you wish to share - this is actively encouraged!

When you join the challenge, could you post a screenshot of your manager's profile as soon as you join your club.

Progress of your club should be documented using this thread, we want to hear the story of your club all the way through. Please keep us updated, even if you are doing really badly.

At the end of every season, could everyone post some kind of season review, including at least a screenshot of a league table and the clubs transfer page. If you give this a title in bold it makes it a bit easier to pick out.

How to Post a Screenshot

  • While in FM, press the 'Prt Sc' button (usually next to F12 on your keyboard).

  • Open an image editing program such as Paint and paste the image

  • Save the file as a JPEG

  • Upload the image to an image hosting website such as Photobucket or Imageshack

  • Post the direct Url to the image here.

I would like to wish everyone taking on this challenge the best of luck on a long and hard journey to footballing success! Let the challenge commence!

I hope everything has been covered in the opening post, if you have any questions, please feel free to ask!

UNFORTUNATELY THERE IS CURRENTLY A BUG WHICH DOESN'T ALLOW YOU TO PLAY BEYOND THE FIRST SEASON IN ITALY (SERIE C), IT WILL BE FIXED IN THE NEXT PATCH!

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Just to let you know, I haven't got FM09 yet so if anyone could confirm the reset dates when they start up it would be a big help :thup: Once I get 09 I will start up my game!

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And it's here!! \o/ Just finalising my French game so will be starting tonight. At the moment it's going to be between FC Martigues and Red Star 93 i think.

Looking forward to starting this. Hopefully i'll enjoy it as much as Como. I'll confirm the French re-set date when i know it.

good luck everyone - i can vouch that this is a great challenge and is up there with Dafuges and Gundos challenges. give it a go, you might just like it!!

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I forget the name of it, but can you actually manage in whatever the lowest league on offer in France is, or is it the next lowest? I seem to remember a problem with one of them last year, because it was mainly reserve squads.

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Great to see you back for another go mate :thup: Best of luck with whoever you choose! Thaks for the reset date as well.

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I forget the name of it, but can you actually manage in whatever the lowest league on offer in France is, or is it the next lowest? I seem to remember a problem with one of them last year, because it was mainly reserve squads.

you can't actually manage in the CFA (i think as i'm not actually quite there yet.) the CFA is almost full of reserve teams but one team is promoted from each of the 4 CFA divisions. I am anticipating that i'll be managing in the 'National' league, the third tier.

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Great to see you back for another go mate :thup: Best of luck with whoever you choose! Thaks for the reset date as well.

where else could i go?? :D i did debate giving dafuges or Gundos challenge another go, but as i had my best ever game on FM on this challenge last year, added to the fact i believe in the thread, and that you got the thread going so quick, where else could i begin???

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That was certainly the idea this time, getting it started quickly.

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It would be rude not to give this another go wouldn't it...

I've got unfinished business in Italy. :thup:

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And I will be onboard as soon as I receive my copy, No stock available in Wellington, New Zealand until Monday 9am, so I will be heading into work with a 3pm finish and hoping to buy it on the way home and straight into this game, I have some unfinished business, I believe in this thread and I actually enjoy the lower leagues in Bigger Europe more than any other game I have played on FM :)

No Como this year for anyone. But good to see a good following at the beginning lets get this thread pumping guys.

I might have search around the web and see if I can't find a full list of the teams we will be playing as :)

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Italian Teams Playable for JoseRR's

Girone A          Girone B              Girone C

Biellese          Renate                Montebelluna
Casale            P.B. Vercelli         Secilese
Rivarolese        Colognese             Union Quinto
Lavagnese         Solbiatese            Choggia S.
Spezia            US Sestese            Somma
Lottogiaveno      Voghera               Pordenone
Derthona          Casteggio Broni       Tamai
Sarzanese         AlzanoCene            Trento
Sestri Levante    Tritium               Domegliara
Rivoli            Caratese              Sanivitese
Novese            Merate                Montecchio M.
Pro Settimo       Turate                Belluno
Albese            Olginatese            Eurotezze
Cuneo             Darfo Boario          Sandona
Valle d'Aosta     Calcio Caravaggese    Virtus Verona
Savona            Fanfulla              Jesolo
Virtus Entella    Verolese              Bolzano
Cirie             Borgomanero           Sagittaria Julia
Sestrese          

Girone D             Girone E            Girone F

Albignasego          Arrone              Atl. Trivento
Calenzano            AS Sestese          Campobasso
Carpi                Sansepolcro         Casoli
Castel San Pietro    Lucchese            Cento Buchi
Castellana           Mobilieri Ponsacco  Chieti
Castellarano         Deruta              Elpidiense
Camacchio Lidi       Pontedera           Fano
Crociati Noceto      Montevarchi         Grottammare
Este                 Pontevecchio        Luco Canistro
Feralpi Lonato       Gavorrano           Maceratese
Fiorenzuola          Rieti               Morro d'Oro
Mezzolara            Forcoli             Olympia Agnonese
Russi                Scandicci           Pro Vasto
Salo                 Cecina              Real Montecchio
Santarcangelo        Sangimignano        Recanatese
Suzzara              Sansovino           R.C. Angolana
Varucchio            Fortis Juventus     Santegidiese
Virtus Castelfranco  Orvietana           Tolentino
                    Armando Picchi
                    Massese

Girone G             Girone H            Girone I

Arzachena            Angri               Acicatena
Astrea               Bitonto             Adrano
Boville Ernica       Brindisi            Castiglione
Budoni               Fasano              Castrovillari
Calangianus          ASD Francavilla     HinterReggio
Castelsardo          FC Francavilla      Libertas Acate
Civita Castellana    Gelbison Cilento    Messina
Civitavecchia        Grottaglie          Neapolis M.
Cynthia              Ischia Isolaverde   Nissa
Ferentino            Matera              Palazzolo
Gaeta                Nocerina            Puteolana
Guidonia M.          Pianura             Rosarno
Lupa Frascati        Pomigliano          Sapri
Monterotondo         Sant'Antonio        Savoia
Morolo               Sibilla Flegrea     Sircusa
Tavolara             Sporting Genzano    Trapani
Villacidrese         Turris              Vico Equense
Viterbese            Venafro             Viribus Unitis
                                        Vittoria

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Red Star FC - French National - The Beginning.

And so i introduce to you the new manager of Red Star 93. The team looks like this, and this is the squad i have inherited. All of the players were on rolling contracts so that helps me get rid of any deadwood slightly. a lot of the players are pretty good though so contracts have been offered out. i have overhauled the staff somewhat and am pretty happy.

For those interested, a brief history of Red Star 93.....

Red Star Football Club 93 is a Frenchfootball club, founded by Jules Rimet (yes, the founder of the World Cup...) in Saint-Ouen, Seine-Saint-Denis, Paris in 1897. They played in Ligue 1 at periods of 1932-1933, 1934-1938, 1939-1948 (not included 1940-1944 period due to France occupied by Germany), 1965-1966, 1967-1973 and 1974-1975. The best result was 7th in 1946-47 season.

"Red Star" is not a translation; the club's name in French is "Red Star", rather than "Étoile Rouge".

Coupe de France Winners (5) : 1921, 1922, 1923, 1928, 1942

Former players include Cyril Domoraud and Tony Cascarino :eek:, and Former managers include Roger Lemerre and Philip Troussier.

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French Clubs Playable for JoseRR's

Groupe A                 Groupe B

FC Monteceau Bourgogne   Hyeres FC
SR Colmar                Sporting Toulon
Besancon RC              AS Lyon Duchere
FC Mulhouse              Gaxelec Ajaccio
USL Dunkerque            Agde
AFC Compiegne            ASF Andrezieux
Vesoul HS                FC Villefranche
US Raon                  US Mariginane
US Moissy                FC Martigues
Sainte-Genevieve Sports  ES Frejus
Olympique Noisy          Gap FC
                        Jura Sud Foot
                        CA Bastia
                        AS Saint-Priest

Groupe C                 Groupe D

Pau FC                   ES Viry-Chatillon
AS Moulins               US Quevilly
US Luzenac               AS Vitre
EDS Montlucon            Stade Plabennecois
Vendee Lucon             Red Star Paris
US Albi                  Villemomble Sports
Aurillac FAC             FC Rouen
Stade Bordelais          UJA Alfortville
Vendee Fontenay          US Orleans
FC Bergerac              La Vitreenne FC
AS Yzeure                GSI Pontivy
Balma SC                 RCF Paris
US Colomiers
Genets Anglet
SO Romorantin
SO Chatellerault

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Thanks for the lists LLR, they make interesting reading.

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German Clubs Playable in JoseRR's

Baden-Wurttemberg    Bayern               Bremen

SpVgg Au/Iller       SpVgg Ansbach        SG Aumund-Vegesack
Bahlinger SC         TSV Aindling         Bremer SV
TSG Balingen         1. FC Bad Kotzting   VfL 07 Bremen
TSV Crailsheim       SpVgg Bayreuth       FC Bremerhaven
ASV Durlach          TSV Buchbach         OSC Bremerhaven
SGV Freiberg         FSV Erlangen-Bruck   Brinkumer SV
SG Sonnenhof G.      VfL Frohnlach        Blumenthaler SV
FV Illertissen       SpVgg Bayern Hof     Habenhauser FV
Kehler FV            FC Ismaning          TSV Osterholz-Tenever
VfL Kirchheim/Teck   FC Memmingen         TSV Melchoirshausen
VfR Mannheim         TSV Rain am Lech     TuS Schwachhausen
FC Nöttingen         FC Scheinfurt 05     Turkspor Bremen
Offenburger FV       SV Seligenporten     SC Vahr-Blockdiek
1. FC Normannia SG.  TSG Thannhausen      KSV Vatan Spor
FC 08 Villingen      SpVgg Weiden         TSV Wulsdorf
FC Astoria Walldorf  Wurzburger FV
                    Wurzburger Kickers

Hamburg                  Hessen                    Neidersachen-West

HSV Barmbeck-Uhlenhorst  FC Bayern Alzenau         SV Bad Rothenfelde
ASV Bergedorf 85         KSV Baunatal              SV Badvenstedt
TSV Buchholz             1. FC Eschborn            PreuBen Hameln
SV Curslack-Neuengamme   FSV 1926 Fernwald         Arminia Hannover
SC Egenbuttel            SV Buchonia Flieden       TSV Havelse
SV Halstenbek-Rellingen  Rot-WeiB Frankfurt        Heesseler SV
SC Concordia Hamburg     Borussia Fulda            VfV Borussia Hildesheim
SC Condor Hamburg        Hunfelder SV              SC Langenhagen
SC Victoria Hamburg      KSV Klein-Karben          Germania Leer
VfL 93 Hamburg           FSC Lohfelden             TuS Lingen
SC Vorwarts-Wacker Hmbg  Germania Ober-Roden       SV Meppen
SV Lurup                 Eintracht Stadtallendorf  Eintracht Nordhorn
Meiendorfer SV           Viktoria Urberach         VfB Oldenberg
NTSV Neindorf            OSC Vellmar               TuS Pewsum
FC Eintract Norderstedt  SC Waldgirmes             BSV Schwarz-WeiB Rehden
FC Voran Ohe             TSG Worsdorf
Uhlenhorster SC Paloma   RSV Wurges

Neidersachsen-Ost        Nordost-Nord              Nordost-Sud

FT Braunschweig          FSV Bentwisch             VfB Auerbach
SV Blau-WeiB Bornreihe   Berlin AK 07              Budissa Bautzen
TuS Celle FC             Berliner FC Dynamo        SC Borea Dresden
SV Drochtersen-Assel     BFC Preussen              FC Eilenburg
MTV Gifhorn              Tennis Borussia Berlin    1. FC Gera 03
Goslarer SC 08           Brandenbrger SC Sud 05    Germania Halberstadt
SCW Gottingen            SV Flakensee-Finkenkrug   1. FC Lokomotive Leipzig
FC Hansa Luneburg        Greifswalder SV           SSV Markrenstadt
TuS Heeslingen           Torgelower SV Greif       ZFC Meiselwitz
VfL Maschen              Lichterfelder FC          VfB PoBneck
FC Eintrach Northeim     Ludwigsfelder FC          FC Grun-WeiB Wolfen
BSV Olper                TSG Neustreitz            FSV Zwickau
VSK Osterholz-Scharmbeck FSV Optik Rathenow
TSV Ottersberg           Reinickendorfer Fusche
Rotenburger SV           Spandauer SV
TuS Guldenstern Stade    Germania Schoneiche
SSV Vorsfelde

Nordrhein-Westfalen      Schleswig-Holstein     Sudwest

Bonner SC                TSV Altennholz         SG Betzdorf
Germania Dattenfeld      FT Elder Budelsdorf    SG Bad Brisig
Dalbrucker SC            Eckenforder SV         Rot-Weiss Hasborn-Dautweiler
Schwarz-Weiss Essen      SpVgg Flensburg 08     SC Hauenstein
FC Gutersloh             Heider SV              FC Homburg
Hammer SpVg              Heikendorfer SV        SC Idar-Oberstein
SC Westfalia Herne       SV Henstedt-Rhen       Sportfreunde Kollerbach
VfB Huls                 VfR Horst              TuS Mayen
SC Fortuna Koln          Husumer SV             TuS Machtersheim
SF Oestrich Iserlohn     Itzhoer SV             SV Mettlach
SV Schermbeck            SC Comet Kiel          Borussia Neunkirchen
Sportfreunde Siegen      FC Killa Kiel          SV Niederauerbach
SSVg Velbert             TSV Kropp              FK Pirmasens
SG Wattenscheid 09       VfR Neumunster         SV Rossbach
                        NTSV Strand 08         1. FC Saarbrucken
                        SV Schlesqig 06        SV Alemannia Waldalgesheim
                                               SpVgg EGC Wirges

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Thanks for the lists LLR, they make interesting reading.

No problem, Its interesting to see some of the clubs and it makes me feel part of the challenge before I get the game on Monday :)

ROFL I just checked out Spain and in the Tercera División one level below the playable Division 2 B, there are 360 clubs in 18 divisions, I will write this up but just a warning it is going to be a rather long list haha. And I thought the german one was bad with 189 teams and Italy with 166 teams. There are a huge number of playable teams in this Challenge so a large variety for you all to choose from, I am tempted by one of the teams in Italy with names of bigger clubs included, so Football teams like Virtus Verona or Fortis Juventus, then again maybe building a rivalry would be cool the likes of ASD Francavilla or FC Francavilla if they both come up.

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It's interesting to see teams like Messina in the lower leagues.

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It's interesting to see teams like Messina in the lower leagues.

I think that was the biggest surprise when I was searching through the Serie D, so I had to check and make sure, now reading an Italian page about Serie D was not so easy, but their name was mentioned, I was sorta shocked, can't find out why they are down there though. Can't remember them in Serie C2 last season either...

Well that is why, haha after a little more searching I found this...

Football Club Messina Peloro are an Italian football club based in Messina, Sicily originally founded in 1900. The club has spent most of its history in the lower Italian football leagues. They last competed in Serie B in 2007–08, this following three consecutive seasons in Serie A. On July 2008 Messina were excluded from professional football due to financial issues, being later registered into amateur Serie D, where they are currently playing.

So they had financial trouble and got made into amateurs, gutted.

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Spanish Clubs Playable in JoseRR's

Grupo 1       Grupo 2               Grupo 3

Bouzas        Siero                 Albericia 
Céltiga       Caudal                Atl. Deva 
Gran Peña     Astur                 Barreda 
Alondras      Oviedo                Bezana 
Coruxo        Condal                Cayón 
Arousa 	      Mosconia              Castro
Villalonga    Ceares                Escobedo 
Portonovo     Lealtad               Gimn. Torrelavega 
Ourense       Candás                Guarnizo
Órdenes       Ribadesella           Laredo 
Compostela    Llanes                Noja 
Negreira      Cudillero             Rayo Cantabria 
Cerceda       Tuilla                Reocín 
Verín 	      Langreo               Ribamontán 
Lalín 	      Universidad Oviedo    Santoña
Montañeros    Gijón Industrial      Siete Villas
Santa Comba   Covadonga             Solares 
Somozas       Navarro               Tropezón 
Narón         Avilés Industrial     Velarde 
             Nalón                 Vimenor

Grupo 4           Grupo 5         Grupo 6

Amorebieta        Amposta         Burjassot
Amurrio           Balaguer        Catarroja
Arenas de Getxo   Banyoles        Crevillente
Baskonia          Blanes          Eldense
Beasain           Cassà           Gandía
Durango           Cornellà        Jove Español 
Elgoibar          Europa          J.B. Cristo
Gernika           L'Hospitalet    La Nucía
Lagun Onak        Manlleu         Novelda
Laudio            Mataró          Onda
Leioa             Palamós         Pego
Ordizia           P. Mafumet      Puçol
Portugalete       Prat            Ribarroja
San Ignacio       Premià          Torrevieja
Santurtzi         Rapitenca       Utiel 
Zalla             Reus Deportiu   Villajoyosa
Zamudio           Santboià
Zarautz           Vilanova
                 Vilajuïga

Grupo 7           Grupo 8          Grupo 9

Alcalá            Aguilar          Adra
Alcobendas        Almazán          Alhaurino
Atl. Pinto        Ávila            A. Armilla
Ciempozuelos      Arandina         Baza 
C. Ofigevi        Astorga          C. Vícar
C. Villalba       Becerril         C. de Níjar
Fuenlabrada       Bembibre         Granada Atl.
Las Rozas         Burgos           Granada 74
Móstoles          Cebrereña        Loja
Parla             G. Segoviana     Mengíbar
Pegaso            Huracán Z        Motril
P. Bonita         Íscar            Ronda
R. Mahadahonda    La Granja        Santa Fé
S. Ana            Mirandés         Unión Estepona
S.S. Reyes        Norma S.L.       Vélez
Vallecas          Palencia         Vera
                 Salmantino
                 Santa Marta

Grupo 10          Grupo 11           Grupo 12

Alcalá            Alaior             Castillo
Antoniano         Alcudia            Gáldar
Atl. Sanluqueño   Andratx            Huracán
Ayamonte          Arenal             Granadilla
Cartaya           Artà               Laguna
Chiclana          Atl. Ciudadella    Las Zocas
Coria             Binissalem         Los Llanos
Dos Hermanas      Cala D´Or          Marino
Jerez Industrial  Campos             Mensajero
Mairena           Constancia         Orientación Marítima
Los Barrios       Ferriolense        Realejos
Los Palacios      Manacor            Tegueste
Pozoblanco        Mercadal           Teguise
Puerto Real       Montuïri           Tenisca
San Roque         Poblense           Tijarafe
Villanueva        Santanyí           Unión Antigua
                 Soledad            Victoria
                 Sporting Mahonés

Grupo 13          Grupo 14              Grupo 15

Atl. Pulpileño    CD Badajoz            Aluvión
Bala Azul         UD Badajoz            Aoiz
Beniel            Cacereño              Ardoi
Calasparra        Cerro Reyes           Chantrea
Caravaca          Ciudad Plasencia      Cirbonero
Cieza             Díter Zafra           Egüés
Ciudad de Lorca   Don Benito            Huarte
Jumilla           Imperio               Idoya
La Unión          Jerez                 Iruña
Lumbreras         La Estrella           Izarra
Mazarrón          Miajadas              Lagunak
Moratalla         Moralo                Lourdes
Muleño            Olivenza              Mendi
Murcia Dptva.     Plasencia             Murchante
Pinatar           Sanvicenteño          Mutilvera
Plus Ultra        Santa Marta           Oberena
Pozo Estrecho     Sporting Villanueva   Peña Azagresa
Santomera         Valdelacalzada        Peña Sport
Yeclano           Valdivia              River Ega
                 Villanovense          San Juan
                                       Tudelano

Grupo 16            Grupo 17          Grupo 18

AF Calahorra        Alcañiz           Alcázar
Agoncillo           Andorra           Almansa
Alberite            Barbastro         Azuqueca
Anguiano            Binéfar           Daimiel
Arnedo              Brea              Hellín
Berceo              Atl. Calatayud    Illescas
Calahorra           Cuarte Ind.       La Roda
Calasancio          Ebro              Manchego
Cenicero            Ejea              Marchamalo 
Fundación Logroñés  Fraga             Piedrabuena
Haro                Giner Torrero     Socuéllamos
CD Logroñés         La Muela          Talavera
Náxara              Monzón            Tarazona
Oyonesa             Sabiñánigo        Toledo
River Ebro          San Lorenzo       Tomelloso
San Marcial         Sariñena          Torpedo 66
Tedeón              Teruel            U. Criptanense
Villegas            Utebo             Villarrobledo
Varea               Villanueva
Yagüe

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Portugese Clubs Playable in JoseRR's

Serie A            Serie B                    Serie C 	

F.C. Amares        Aliados F.C. de Lordelo    Académico de Viseu F.C.
G.D. Bragança      Amarante F.C.              F.C. Arouca
Brito S.C.         F.C. Famalicão             S.C. Dragões Sandinenses
G.D. Joane         F.C. Maia                  G.C. Figueirense
C.A. Macedo de C   U. Nogueirense F.C.        G.D. Milheiroense
F.C. Marinhas      C.F. Oliveira do Douro     F.C. Oliveira do Hospital
S.C. Mirandela     A.D. Oliveirense           A.D. Sanjoanense
Mondinense F.C.    Padroense                  S.C. São João de Ver
Morais F.C.        U.S.C. Paredes             G.D.R.C. Social de Lamas
G.D. Prado         F.C. Pedras Rubras         U.D. Tocha
S.C. Valenciano    Rebordosa A.C.             C.D. Tondela
S.C. Vianense      A.D. São Pedro da Cova     C.F. União de Lamas
Vidago F.C.        G.D. Serzedelo             A.D. Valecambrense
Vieira S.C.        G.D. Torre de Moncorvo     A.D. Valonguense

Serie D                     Serie E 

G.C. Alcobaça               S.U. 1º de Dezembro
U.D. Caranguejeira          G.D. Alcochetense
U.D. Gândara                S.C.E. Bombarralense
C.D. Lousanense             A.C. Cacém
A.C. Marinhense             C.S.D. Câmara de Lobos
C.A. Mirandense             O Elvas C.A.D.
G.D.R. Monsanto             S.C. Estrela
A.D. Penamacorense          Estrela F.C. de Vendas Novas
S.C. Pombal                 A.D. Fazendense
A.D. Portomosense           G.D. Igreja Nova
U.D. Serra                  C. Oriental de Lisboa
Sertanense F.C.             U.D. Santana
G.D. Sourense               S.U. Sintrense
F.C.E. Unhais da Serra      S.L. Cartaxo

Serie F                     Serie Azores

S.C.M. Aljustrelense        S.C. Angrense
S.R. Almancilense           C. Boavista de São Mateus
Amora F.C.                  Capelense S.C.
F.C. Barreirense            Fayal S.C.
G.D. Beira-Mar              J.D. Lajense
C.D. Cova da Piedade        S.C. Marítimo
J.S. Campinense             C.U. Micaelense
G.D. Fabril                 S.C. Praiense
F.C. Ferreiras              C.D. Rabo de Peixe
Imortal D.C.                Santiago F.C.
Lusitano G.C.
G.U.S. Montemor
C.D.R. Quarteirense
Silves F.C.

So thats now all bar Holland, which I can't remember how it works, but I will try and find a team list and compile it if I can :)

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Doesn't Holland have a closed-league system? I might have a go at this when I get WWSM. So many challenges to do...

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Doesn't Holland have a closed-league system? I might have a go at this when I get WWSM. So many challenges to do...

Well I just had a read of the Holland League system and it appears that they have had a closed League System, but as of 2008/09 they are moving to promotion/relegation between the Eerste Divisie and the Hoofdklasse, although the Dutch FA is looking at adding a Topklasse inbetween these two as a Semi-Professional League instead of having a direct step-up, but I think from what I understand this Promotion/Relegation should be in place in FM09, so I shall make a list of the Hoofdklasse teams and hopefully they are playable after a season on holiday.

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Well I just had a read of the Holland League system and it appears that they have had a closed League System, but as of 2008/09 they are moving to promotion/relegation between the Eerste Divisie and the Hoofdklasse, although the Dutch FA is looking at adding a Topklasse inbetween these two as a Semi-Professional League instead of having a direct step-up, but I think from what I understand this Promotion/Relegation should be in place in FM09, so I shall make a list of the Hoofdklasse teams and hopefully they are playable after a season on holiday.

Ya I read that on wiki the other day...can't wait to play in Holland with promotion/relegation. :)

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Dutch Clubs Playable in JoseRR's

Saturday A              Saturday B         Saturday C 

ARC                     Ajax *             Be Quick '28
ASWH                    Bennekom           Berkum
Barendrecht             DOVO               Excelsior '31
Capelle                 Geinoord           Flevo Boys
DOTO                    GVVV               Genemuiden
Excelsior Maassluis     Hoek               Go Ahead Kampen
Heerjansdam             Jodan Boys         Harkemase Boys
Katwijk                 Kozakken Boys      HHC Hardenberg 
Lisse                   SDC Putten         Nunspeet
Noordwijk               Spakenburg         ONS Sneek
Quick Boys              Sparta Nijkerk     Oranje Nassau
Rijnsburgse Boys        RKAV Volendam      PKC '83
Scheveningen            IJsselmeervogels   Staphorst
Ter Leede               Zwaluwen '30       WHC

Sunday A 	        Sunday B           Sunday C 

ADO '20                 Baronie            Achilles '29
AFC                     DESK               Alcides
Argon                   Deurne             Babberich
DWV                     Dijkse Boys        De Bataven
Elinkwijk               EVV                Be Quick 1887
Haaglandia              JVC Cuijk          Germania
HBS                     Gemert             HSC '21
Hilversum               Longa              Joure
Hollandia               Meerssen           Lienden
Omniworld               OJC Rosmalen       Quick '20
Türkiyemspor            Papendrecht        Sneek Wit Zwart
VUC                     Schijndel          De Treffers
VVSB                    UNA                WKE
Westlandia              Venray             WSV

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Isn't Omniworld already playable in the Eerste Divisie? I remember I had them as a feeder club before... (though irl they're in the relegation zone :p)

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Damn you're right that means that the 08/09 list doesn't seem to match up haha...Gutted I may have to try and figure it out from some more sites...

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Well interestingly after an investigation it turns out Omniworld in the lower League is "FC Omniworld Amateurs" a seperate club in FM :p

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Are all the Dutch clubs playable in this challenge amateur teams? (If yes, would they turn semi-pro when they're promoted to the Eerste Divisie?)

The promotion/relegation system in Holland has sparked my interest in possibly doing this challenge. :D

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Are all the Dutch clubs playable in this challenge amateur teams? (If yes, would they turn semi-pro when they're promoted to the Eerste Divisie?)

The promotion/relegation system in Holland has sparked my interest in possibly doing this challenge. :D

Well it looks like they will be, but once I get the game in bout 22 hours by the time I get home from work I will be running a game through a year on each League to make sure of the dates etc. Holland being the big one to check, if it doesn't come after the first season I may run through a second cause it does mention something about promotion in 2009/10 so that would be two years into the game, we will see what happens.

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Hmmmm. This challenge souns like my cup of team.

This is my list of things to do in FM this time around

Complete Dafuges challenge

Complete Gundo's challenge

Complete JoseRR's challenge

Complete the San Marino double challenge.

So much to do so little time.

I think I will be going to Italy where the work permit issues will make this a lot tougher than it already is.

I really do love the lower leagues

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The new Era of Champions - FC Barcelona "B"

Faz Rodrigo has taken over the helm from Josep Guardiola, who was in-charge of FC Barcelona "B" for a little over a year now.

With the current FC Barcelona "B" squad looking very strong to challenge for the Segunda División B Grupo III trophy, Head Coach Faz will be looking to further strengthen the squad.

It is still unknown whether the Head Coach has what it takes to bring FC Barcelona "B" to the dizzy heights of their parent club FC Barcelona which is currently in the La Liga; however a latest interview with the man himself, shows one extremely confident young manager:

"Well, in order to succeed, our desire for success has to be greater then our fear of failure; and we do have an extremely desirable team" - Faz Rodrigo

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Well, I was looking around at the Spanish Division B, also known as the Segunda Division B, leagues and deciding which team to choose for this challenge. (I know I have chosen Barcelona B above; but I read somewhere in Wiki that a reserve team cannot be in the same league as the 1st team, or something like that). Anyway, I did some searching for the teams that were newly promoted from the Tercera Division, to the Segunda Division B and these following teams were the newly promoted after the Play-offs were played:

(Posted in the following format)

Team Name (may vary in FM) - Value of Club, Training Facility Standard, Youth Facility Standard

Segunda División B1:

Ciudad Santiago - 925K, fairly basic training fac, basic youth fac + youth academy

Racing Santander B - 3.2M, top training fac, average youth fac + Youth academy

Segunda División B2:

Las Palmas B - 3.8m, good training fac, good youth fac

sangonera - 300K, basic training fac, minimal youth fac

Real Murcia B - 350K, average training fac, excellent youth fac + youth academy

Ciudad Lorquí - 210k, basic training fac, minimimal youth fac

CDA Navalcarnero - 425K, adequate training fac, adequate youth fac

Segunda División B3:

UD Alzira - 350k, fairly basic training fac, minimal youth fac

UE Sant Andreu - 3M, good training fac, adequate youth fac

Valencia Mestalla - 5.5m, good training fac, good youth fac

Atlético Baleares - 1.9M, basic training fac, minimal youth fac

PD Santa Eulalia - 220k, average training fac, minimal youth fac

Segunda División B4:

CD San Fernando - 625K, adequate training fac, adequate youth fac

CD Roquetas - 300k, adequate training fac, adequate youth fac

Antequera CF - 350K, adequate training fac, adequate youth fac

Balompédica Linense - 975k, adequate training fac, adequate youth fac

Sporting de Gijón - 3.9M, top training fac, average youth fac + youth Academy

This is to help those who wish to choose spain as their choice for this challenge. Good luck!

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Welcome RVN and Benjaminoo. It's good to see a wider spread of leagues and teams this year, and Holland certainly could be an exciting prospect! Best of luck to everyone involved so far :thup:

Thanks also to all the work LLR has been putting into the thread!

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good luck Benjaminoo. I have a 'rival' in France now!! ha ha. :D

Actually, I've signed a few players from Red Star ;)

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Actually, I've signed a few players from Red Star ;)

who have you signed? am still trawling the free transfers looking for players. Got Auxerre as a parent lcub and got a good young CB from them. working on a couple of others too.

think it's going to be tougher in France with Red Star than it was with Como... Not that that's a bad thing!! ;) played a coupleof home friendlies against National teams, losing 2-1 and a 0-0 draw. Trying to fine tune my formation. debating a 4-4-1-1 but may revert back to 4-4-2.

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I signed Jamel Zahiri and Luc Ekwalla from Red Star. Zahiri dosen't start but Ekwalla does.

I got PSG as a parent club ;) They gave me 5 players who are pretty good, but not showing it atm..

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My FC Barcelona B already has a good base of players! I'm quite surprised to see so many Liga Adelante (2nd League) quality of players in the squad! :D

Edit: I just found out a major disadvantage..Any player I sign for will stay in the main Barcelona team instead of coming to the B Team! :S

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has any one got a save game in italy they could upload as my pc is taking hours been waiting an hour and a half and im only in november.

thanx max

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That could be a bit of a problem!

Very much of a problem!

I've signed 2 quality keepers but they are both being 'pulled' to the main team! :(

But I think I may have found a solution to it; seems that when offering them a contract, I specified a 'Key Player' status for them; thus when they have agreed to sign, they'll automatically go to the first team.

Not sure if this is a bug or it is supposed to happen that way.. Nevertheless, shall try to make the best of what I have then. :D

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I guess it would be part of the clubs link, seeing as the 'B' team really are the same club! Best of luck trying under even harder circumstances than normal mate :thup:

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I'm pretty sure the 'B' team can't get promoted to the same league as their first team side?

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I'm pretty sure the 'B' team can't get promoted to the same league as their first team side?

they can'tdo... might make completing the challenge a little tricky!!

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Won't it be a bit pointless to take over a 'B' team knowing that you can't guide them to Champions League glory?

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That could be a bit of a problem!
I'm pretty sure the 'B' team can't get promoted to the same league as their first team side?

Oh man, so I guess I can never complete the challenge! But anyway, I'll just try to get them up and see what will happen. It'll be interesting to see the messages, news conference and etc when the time comes FC Barcelona "B" is supposed to get promoted to La Liga! (if that happens..heh) :D

Some quick updates..

FC Barcelona "B" has just completed their friendly matches and are now making the final preparations for the opening match against Gava.

FC Barcelona "B" Friendlies Results

Current Squad

Current Finances Not much changes here

Board Confidence Nothing extraordinary here either; hopefully, the upcoming opening matches will make the green bar longer!

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