RDF Tactics Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 First off, may i apologise to those who have supported my training guides and shared tweaked tactics. Also apologise to those who were waiting for me to reply to there questions I have decided to remove my content for the time being (if i'm still allowed here) due to differences with Moderators and SI Staff. i was banned on the 26th April due to have a previous banning. My ban previously was because of bad behaviour. This ban was a warning because of my previous ban. Makes sense? yeah exactly. I was given an explanation and in that explanation i did no wrong doing. i was banned because the mod assumed the thread was going in the wrong direction. Today, i wanted to make a complaint only for the SI to tell me i already have made a complaint (which i haven't) and that they were happy with the outcome of the ban THOUGH this ban was no explained to me when it was given. I was then told by the Moderator that he had a headache, the reason why he couldn't write the explanation but was well enough to issue a ban. i broke NO rules but still, received a ban. Not that my content is valuable to this site, but I care about the work I share and I'm passionate about it. So therefore, if I can not make a complaint and SI staff are happy i was banned me for no reason other than because of a ban before, my content should be removed as it's clear this forum has no regards to my feelings what so ever. I stay up all night to help and share work, and to get treated like this doesn't feel nice, specially when i just want to help people i hope people can understand my frustration. thanks guys. SAFE HANDS V2.fmf QUICK HANDS V1.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
herne79 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 @afizzyuk Thanks for sharing your tactics. Can I please ask you to stop posting in capitals, especially your thread titles (which I'll edit). Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted March 23, 2019 Author Share Posted March 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, herne79 said: @afizzyuk Thanks for sharing your tactics. Can I please ask you to stop posting in capitals, especially your thread titles (which I'll edit). Thanks. Apologies. Never knew it was an issue. New to uploading tactics. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony1885mfc Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Going to try this on a new save with Millwall. Looking into the future, at what point would you suggest changing from safe to quick? Predicted league finish? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
8BuggieNights15 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Fantastic results, Having success on my current save with the same formation from one of Knap's tactics, Doesn't make sense to change now but I'll keep it as a backup btw thanks for taking the time to properly introduce your tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djhagster Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 @afizzyuk assuming it would help the tactic if the IF was right footed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted March 23, 2019 Author Share Posted March 23, 2019 18 minutes ago, tony1885mfc said: Going to try this on a new save with Millwall. Looking into the future, at what point would you suggest changing from safe to quick? Predicted league finish? Yeah I would use quick when you're predicted top 4...OR when you feel you have players technically gifted enough 13 minutes ago, 8BuggieNights15 said: Fantastic results, Having success on my current save with the same formation from one of Knap's tactics, Doesn't make sense to change now but I'll keep it as a backup btw thanks for taking the time to properly introduce your tactics Thanks man. I believe you should share a little info at least Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted March 23, 2019 Author Share Posted March 23, 2019 1 minute ago, djhagster said: @afizzyuk assuming it would help the tactic if the IF was right footed? Yes. Though Lamela didn't perform too badly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matiz96 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 show the best results from West Ham? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebugel Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 What version is your tests with? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony1885mfc Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Finished the season by winning the league, used safe in all but one game. I have scored more goals and won more games with other tactics but what I like about this tactic is it seems far more consistent. I also took on the responsibility of training which I have never done before. Tbh it left my head in a bit of spin. I only used 0 match week, 1 match week and 2 match. All defeats in the league seemed to coincide with having to change the starting line up due to injuries, suspensions or players needing a rest. I also instant result every game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 14 minutes ago, tony1885mfc said: Finished the season by winning the league, used safe in all but one game. I have scored more goals and won more games with other tactics but what I like about this tactic is it seems far more consistent. I also took on the responsibility of training which I have never done before. Tbh it left my head in a bit of spin. I only used 0 match week, 1 match week and 2 match. All defeats in the league seemed to coincide with having to change the starting line up due to injuries, suspensions or players needing a rest. I also instant result every game. what do you put when instant? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted March 23, 2019 Author Share Posted March 23, 2019 5 hours ago, matiz96 said: show the best results from West Ham? Will try and post later as I'm in the middle of a new test 2 hours ago, thebugel said: What version is your tests with? The newest which I believe is 19.3.4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted March 23, 2019 Author Share Posted March 23, 2019 26 minutes ago, tony1885mfc said: All defeats in the league seemed to coincide with having to change the starting line up due to injuries, suspensions or players needing a rest. That's the same issues I have! During test I try and purposely get knocked out of cup comps so my players can be fit. Specially at Tottenham, Eriksen and a couple others couldn't play 2 games In a row without being knackered or need of rest, so frustrating as it doesn't seem the AI have same issue. Funny enough, at Tottenham it was the B team that won the cups, I then played a strong team in the late rounds of CL But I recommend people to have a big squad for rotation and not start anyone below 91% condition Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted March 23, 2019 Author Share Posted March 23, 2019 38 minutes ago, tony1885mfc said: Finished the season by winning the league, used safe in all but one game. I have scored more goals and won more games with other tactics but what I like about this tactic is it seems far more consistent Also I advise you when you get promoted to change time wasting to "SOMETIMES". Working great with Brighton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinbad7104 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Perfect, I've taken over a relegated Sampdoria in Dec 2021. These two tactics should give me the perfect foundation to rebuild them with. First game using SAFE HANDS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted March 23, 2019 Author Share Posted March 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, Sinbad7104 said: Perfect, I've taken over a relegated Sampdoria in Dec 2021. These two tactics should give me the perfect foundation to rebuild them with. First game using SAFE HANDS Excellent! A little hint, what worked for me during Brighton test, playing away I moved time wasting to "sometimes" from the start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony1885mfc Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 6 hours ago, cragswfc said: what do you put when instant? Do you mean from the drop down box? If thats the case then I leave it blank Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
whispers Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 I seem to be losing pretty hard with quickhands with spurs. It seems like crosses are an insane weak point with this tactic. Or my defenders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goku4 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Conceding so many goals on counter attack... but it does not surprise me: very high d-line + high loe + attacking mentality + only the two center backs on defend duty... sometimes you just need to have a look at the set-up , in order to assume whether the tactic is really a consistent "game breaker" or not. I don't know how you tested it mate, but this defensive record with west ham in first season? I will never believe that. Tested it myself with West Ham, got trashed at home against chelsea 1-5, lost to wolves at home 0-1 and now away half time against leicester running behind a 2-0... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corei Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 22 saat önce, 8BuggieNights15 said: Fantastic results, Having success on my current save with the same formation from one of Knap's tactics, Doesn't make sense to change now but I'll keep it as a backup btw thanks for taking the time to properly introduce your tactics Which knap 4123 you use mate ? Also to OP thanks for the tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted March 24, 2019 Author Share Posted March 24, 2019 4 hours ago, whispers said: I seem to be losing pretty hard with quickhands with spurs. It seems like crosses are an insane weak point with this tactic. Or my defenders 2 hours ago, goku4 said: Conceding so many goals on counter attack... but it does not surprise me: very high d-line + high loe + attacking mentality + only the two center backs on defend duty... sometimes you just need to have a look at the set-up , in order to assume whether the tactic is really a consistent "game breaker" or not. I don't know how you tested it mate, but this defensive record with west ham in first season? I will never believe that. Tested it myself with West Ham, got trashed at home against chelsea 1-5, lost to wolves at home 0-1 and now away half time against leicester running behind a 2-0... sorry to hear about your results. With spurs, i felt the test was too easy so weird you're having these problems. i'm constantly tweaking and testing, will post any updates i have. @goku4 yes, screenshots are above, i only post 1st season results. Finished 1st with West Ham, 2nd with Brighton, dominated with Spurs and unbeaten with Lpool (results of that are in my 442 thread). Bare in mind i tested with FMT, though its the same match engine, things like squad harmony and stuff doesn't effect results too much. somebody else posted their Milwall results, he also achieved best defence in league Defence is supposed to be the strength of this tactic so apologies if not working for you. Neither is this tactic a "game breaker" thats not what i'm trying to achieve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinbad7104 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Finished the season going up as champions. (highlighted games) The squad is nowhere near good enough in depth or technically imo so will be near enough a whole squad rebuild now hopefully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goku4 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 5 hours ago, afizzyuk said: sorry to hear about your results. With spurs, i felt the test was too easy so weird you're having these problems. i'm constantly tweaking and testing, will post any updates i have. @goku4 yes, screenshots are above, i only post 1st season results. Finished 1st with West Ham, 2nd with Brighton, dominated with Spurs and unbeaten with Lpool (results of that are in my 442 thread). Bare in mind i tested with FMT, though its the same match engine, things like squad harmony and stuff doesn't effect results too much. somebody else posted their Milwall results, he also achieved best defence in league Defence is supposed to be the strength of this tactic so apologies if not working for you. Neither is this tactic a "game breaker" thats not what i'm trying to achieve thats all I say about "best defense"... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goku4 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 5 hours ago, afizzyuk said: sorry to hear about your results. With spurs, i felt the test was too easy so weird you're having these problems. i'm constantly tweaking and testing, will post any updates i have. @goku4 yes, screenshots are above, i only post 1st season results. Finished 1st with West Ham, 2nd with Brighton, dominated with Spurs and unbeaten with Lpool (results of that are in my 442 thread). Bare in mind i tested with FMT, though its the same match engine, things like squad harmony and stuff doesn't effect results too much. somebody else posted their Milwall results, he also achieved best defence in league Defence is supposed to be the strength of this tactic so apologies if not working for you. Neither is this tactic a "game breaker" thats not what i'm trying to achieve thats all I say about "best defense"... btw. championship is not a good reference to demonstrate how good a tactic is or how good the defence/offence is... have been bundesliga champion with frankfurt, wolfsburg and leipzig in the first season and have been destroyed with the same tactics in the epl... some leagues are so weak that you don't really need the perfect tactic to become a champion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted March 24, 2019 Author Share Posted March 24, 2019 1 hour ago, goku4 said: thats all I say about "best defense"... btw. championship is not a good reference to demonstrate how good a tactic is or how good the defence/offence is... have been bundesliga champion with frankfurt, wolfsburg and leipzig in the first season and have been destroyed with the same tactics in the epl... some leagues are so weak that you don't really need the perfect tactic to become a champion Best defence? I also tested in the prem as you can see in screenshots that I won the league EPL with West Ham and Tottenham. This tactic is for people who want to use it. Other people have also got success. If it doesn't work for you then you don't have to use it, or you can tweak it so it fits your team like other managers do. Also, in your screen shot, that's not my tactic plugged in. My tactic isn't 433elmagicov3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goku4 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 1 hour ago, afizzyuk said: Best defence? I also tested in the prem as you can see in screenshots that I won the league EPL with West Ham and Tottenham. This tactic is for people who want to use it. Other people have also got success. If it doesn't work for you then you don't have to use it, or you can tweak it so it fits your team like other managers do. Also, in your screen shot, that's not my tactic plugged in. My tactic isn't 433elmagicov3 I have changed set pieces as I dont want to exploit ME weaknesses therefore saved it as another... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goku4 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 there you go... you have just one reference except yourselve. this is someone who has played championship. wonder what his results in the epl are like... I dont want to discuss whether it is good or not. but trying to sell the tactic as defensively solid is just not right. the set up is just crying for the AI to break it with counter attacks or just hoof balls for keeper. the reality is the same... I was regularly getting ripped of... it is amazing going forward, but if you do not have superb defensive players, youre destined to be ripped of. I kind of have the feeling that a lot of tactic uploaders are manipulating their seasons to catch attention... even with barcelona you can not get statistics like that... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted March 24, 2019 Author Share Posted March 24, 2019 27 minutes ago, goku4 said: there you go... you have just one reference except yourselve. this is someone who has played championship. wonder what his results in the epl are like... I dont want to discuss whether it is good or not. but trying to sell the tactic as defensively solid is just not right. the set up is just crying for the AI to break it with counter attacks or just hoof balls for keeper. the reality is the same... I was regularly getting ripped of... it is amazing going forward, but if you do not have superb defensive players, youre destined to be ripped of. I kind of have the feeling that a lot of tactic uploaders are manipulating their seasons to catch attention... even with barcelona you can not get statistics like that... Are you actually accusing me of manipulating? As in cheating? Lol. When I first started posting, I posted SS of my game status. I stopped as there was no need. Also I feel you are just plugging in and playing and not reacting during the matches? Of course you can get statistics like this in FM. Other uploaders such as Knapp and TFF produce better results, and so do their users. I'm just simply uploading tactics (for free) so users can use them. If it doesn't work for you then I'm sorry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRFC23 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Works pretty well for me at Liverpool! Nice job Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braumiller Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 44 minutes ago, goku4 said: there you go... you have just one reference except yourselve. this is someone who has played championship. wonder what his results in the epl are like... I dont want to discuss whether it is good or not. but trying to sell the tactic as defensively solid is just not right. the set up is just crying for the AI to break it with counter attacks or just hoof balls for keeper. the reality is the same... I was regularly getting ripped of... it is amazing going forward, but if you do not have superb defensive players, youre destined to be ripped of. I kind of have the feeling that a lot of tactic uploaders are manipulating their seasons to catch attention... even with barcelona you can not get statistics like that... lol - comedy gold right here @afizzyuk kutgw - quality tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goku4 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 10 hours ago, afizzyuk said: sorry to hear about your results. With spurs, i felt the test was too easy so weird you're having these problems. i'm constantly tweaking and testing, will post any updates i have. @goku4 yes, screenshots are above, i only post 1st season results. Finished 1st with West Ham, 2nd with Brighton, dominated with Spurs and unbeaten with Lpool (results of that are in my 442 thread). Bare in mind i tested with FMT, though its the same match engine, things like squad harmony and stuff doesn't effect results too much. somebody else posted their Milwall results, he also achieved best defence in league Defence is supposed to be the strength of this tactic so apologies if not working for you. Neither is this tactic a "game breaker" thats not what i'm trying to achieve 1 hour ago, TRFC23 said: Works pretty well for me at Liverpool! Nice job Play with West Ham, Fulham, Everton without transfers and show me the results of the first season... You can play just basic plug and play formation from SI with Liverpool + Kai Havertz, Harry Kane etc... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted March 25, 2019 Author Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, goku4 said: Play with West Ham, Fulham, Everton without transfers and show me the results of the first season... You can play just basic plug and play formation from SI with Liverpool + Kai Havertz, Harry Kane etc... you don't like the tactic. nobody will create a file and post screenshots just for you mate. you really don't have to use it if you dislike it. Or any of the tactics i share. People can be whoever they want and sign whoever they want and use the tactic to be successful. i posted already some screenshots, my West Ham squad clearly has 0 signings and in first season. Even my results for Brighton are there too. Also bare in mind there's only so many pictures i can upload in a post. I cannot post screenshots of every result and every page you want. If you follow my other thread, you'll see that i post results during tests too. funny enough, the beginning of creating this tactic started on the other thread as Palace where i posted results, of me losing too. so again, if you're looking for a game breaker, you're looking in the wrong place Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinbad7104 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Squad rebuild pretty much done. No superstars or wonderkids in there just a good set of lads Who thought it'll be a laugh to go to Milan and twit Inter 2nd game of the season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
whispers Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 7 hours ago, goku4 said: Play with West Ham, Fulham, Everton without transfers and show me the results of the first season... You can play just basic plug and play formation from SI with Liverpool + Kai Havertz, Harry Kane etc... Just so you know. Nobody gets as good results as the maker of the tactics. Knap, TFF etc gets way better results than the users of said tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuryBlade Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, whispers said: Just so you know. Nobody gets as good results as the maker of the tactics. Knap, TFF etc gets way better results than the users of said tactics. Have to disagree with this. Spend time learning the tactic, looking at how it functions and what players work best where and there’s no reason you can’t get equal or better results. Look at the previous thread from @afizzyuk where I have taken his tactic, worked on it with my Inter side and tweaked to fit my players and style, and I’m unbeaten in 34 games now. @tom19720930 also went unbeaten for a whole season with Atletico. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goku4 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, BuryBlade said: Have to disagree with this. Spend time learning the tactic, looking at how it functions and what players work best where and there’s no reason you can’t get equal or better results. Look at the previous thread from @afizzyuk where I have taken his tactic, worked on it with my Inter side and tweaked to fit my players and style, and I’m unbeaten in 34 games now. @tom19720930 also went unbeaten for a whole season with Atletico. Once again, you are talking about Atletico, Inter... try to play with Betis or Fiorentina, Atalanta etc... This is much more of a reference. I did not see any reference with a mid-table team except the tactic creator. The reason why many tactic creators achieve the best results is due to them manipulating the results. So imagine, you have a good run of like 15-20 unbeaten games and you feel like the tactic is something that will success with any team. so you want to upload it, but how to get the most attention? if you can demonstrate an unbeaten season or a championship without any transfers and with a lower classed team... I dont say that the tactic is completely bad, I see beautiful football often, but there is no way that you can achieve these kind of statistics in the very first season with west ham in the epl with this tactic! it has soooo many flaws and weaknesses... it would take the AI at most 10 games to notice these and then there begins the long balls and counter attacks... it is very imbalanced... after like 23 games had conceded 42 goals... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuryBlade Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 minute ago, goku4 said: Once again, you are talking about Atletico, Inter... try to play with Betis or Fiorentina, Atalanta etc... This is much more of a reference. I did not see any reference with a mid-table team except the tactic creator. The reason why many tactic creators achieve the best results is due to them manipulating the results. So imagine, you have a good run of like 15-20 unbeaten games and you feel like the tactic is something that will success with any team. so you want to upload it, but how to get the most attention? if you can demonstrate an unbeaten season or a championship without any transfers and with a lower classed team... I dont say that the tactic is completely bad, I see beautiful football often, but there is no way that you can achieve these kind of statistics in the very first season with west ham in the epl with this tactic! it has soooo many flaws and weaknesses... it would take the AI at most 10 games to notice these and then there begins the long balls and counter attacks... it is very imbalanced... after like 23 games had conceded 42 goals... I think a bigger problem is that too many people think you can plug a tactic in and then do nothing else. You have to constantly be assessing and reassessing before, during and after games. During a game, making sure you pay attention to what is happening, how the opposition are playing, are your players doing what they should. What areas are struggling or being targeted by the opposition. You have to then tweak and react every single match. No real life manager sits on the touch line and does nothing for 90 mins! People need to stop thinking they can win everything without putting the effort in to do so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuryBlade Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 And the original tactic anyway I had working at Cesena. I left them for Inter with Cesena sat in 5th in Serie A in my first year in the division. The tactics are good, but you have to actually manage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDF Tactics Posted March 25, 2019 Author Share Posted March 25, 2019 52 minutes ago, goku4 said: Once again, you are talking about Atletico, Inter... try to play with Betis or Fiorentina, Atalanta etc... This is much more of a reference. I did not see any reference with a mid-table team except the tactic creator. The reason why many tactic creators achieve the best results is due to them manipulating the results. So imagine, you have a good run of like 15-20 unbeaten games and you feel like the tactic is something that will success with any team. so you want to upload it, but how to get the most attention? if you can demonstrate an unbeaten season or a championship without any transfers and with a lower classed team... I dont say that the tactic is completely bad, I see beautiful football often, but there is no way that you can achieve these kind of statistics in the very first season with west ham in the epl with this tactic! it has soooo many flaws and weaknesses... it would take the AI at most 10 games to notice these and then there begins the long balls and counter attacks... it is very imbalanced... after like 23 games had conceded 42 goals... Can you please explain who we manipulate results? Of course we're not going to post bad tests. But stop accusing of manipulating without explaining. Are you saying tactic creators cheat? I won the league with Wolfsburg and Betis and Bournemouth. All first season, I posted everything you are asking for. But you clearly did not see that. Not to brag, my other thread is a popular thread for a reason! It works for people, lower rep or big rep. Again, the AI will notice your style, you as a manager will then change stuff. You are obviously not doing that if your complaining about long balls. How about drop your DL? People who get success with tactics constantly tweak little things, not just download a tactic and play 38 games with the downloaded tactic. For example, Brighton I had Shane Duffy, accererlation of 8, I will not play with a very high line away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuryBlade Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, afizzyuk said: Can you please explain who we manipulate results? Of course we're not going to post bad tests. But stop accusing of manipulating without explaining. Are you saying tactic creators cheat? I won the league with Wolfsburg and Betis and Bournemouth. All first season, I posted everything you are asking for. But you clearly did not see that. Not to brag, my other thread is a popular thread for a reason! It works for people, lower rep or big rep. Again, the AI will notice your style, you as a manager will then change stuff. You are obviously not doing that if your complaining about long balls. How about drop your DL? People who get success with tactics constantly tweak little things, not just download a tactic and play 38 games with the downloaded tactic. For example, Brighton I had Shane Duffy, accererlation of 8, I will not play with a very high line away @afizzyuk you’re forgetting they don’t want to have to think. They just want instant success. I suggest people have a look at my post on your previous tactic thread looking at how analysis during a game can be done and why it is so important: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 7 hours ago, BuryBlade said: I think a bigger problem is that too many people think you can plug a tactic in and then do nothing else. You have to constantly be assessing and reassessing before, during and after games. During a game, making sure you pay attention to what is happening, how the opposition are playing, are your players doing what they should. What areas are struggling or being targeted by the opposition. You have to then tweak and react every single match. No real life manager sits on the touch line and does nothing for 90 mins! People need to stop thinking they can win everything without putting the effort in to do so. Jos luhukay did lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazingortega Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Works really good for my arsenal team. When I’m chasing goal I change slightly and when I’m trying to preserve a lead also Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bsup68 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 On 25/03/2019 at 11:45, BuryBlade said: I think a bigger problem is that too many people think you can plug a tactic in and then do nothing else. You have to constantly be assessing and reassessing before, during and after games. During a game, making sure you pay attention to what is happening, how the opposition are playing, are your players doing what they should. What areas are struggling or being targeted by the opposition. You have to then tweak and react every single match. No real life manager sits on the touch line and does nothing for 90 mins! People need to stop thinking they can win everything without putting the effort in to do so. Yeah it's quite some tinkering with everything most of the time, great for experienced fm players and for players with enough spare time, but it could also be be quite a challenge, if not a problem for the newbie or the casual player. Agreed no real life manager sits on the touch line doing nothing for 90 mins. but we got to remember that FM isn't real life, but a game. A game i guess that most of us play for fun, I know i do and have done that since CM Italia '95 on my old Amiga, but it might end up being a bit too time consuming if the tinkering aspects gets to be a even bigger part of the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRMAINTAIN Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 What do you generally tinker when up preserving a lead? Time wasting and mentality? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuryBlade Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 7 hours ago, bsup68 said: Yeah it's quite some tinkering with everything most of the time, great for experienced fm players and for players with enough spare time, but it could also be be quite a challenge, if not a problem for the newbie or the casual player. Agreed no real life manager sits on the touch line doing nothing for 90 mins. but we got to remember that FM isn't real life, but a game. A game i guess that most of us play for fun, I know i do and have done that since CM Italia '95 on my old Amiga, but it might end up being a bit too time consuming if the tinkering aspects gets to be a even bigger part of the game. Having started playing CM2 when my dad bought it for me in 1997, I completely get your point. I could do a season in a few hours, options were minimal and fun was high. The game does seem more like a job nowadays but it does a great job of realistically simulating real life. FM Touch is excellent for the more casual player or newbie wanting to learn the game. Also for those wanting to learn, there are many great threads in these forums, a lot of them stickied so easy to find which contain wealths of info to help get you started. Anything by @Cleon is worth reading! In terms of tinkering, the more you put in to begin with, the less you have to do later on. Having done lots of experimenting, I’m at a point where I’m happy with my tactics and know exactly what to change and when in game so it isn’t that time consuming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuryBlade Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 6 hours ago, MRMAINTAIN said: What do you generally tinker when up preserving a lead? Time wasting and mentality? A lot of this depends on your starting tactic and what you see happening in game. For example if the opposition have a big target man up front who turns like a dumper truck, I don’t need to worry about him running in behind. Therefore dropping deeper would be a mistake because it would allow them to push up in support and win second balls from his knock downs. In my tactic, I tend to change the following: Player roles- make them more defensive- eg IWBs become standard FB(d). Player positions: I’ll withdraw a striker and add a Regista for extra defensive cover and to help keep the ball time wasting to as often as possible GK slow pace down. In the dying minutes I’ll drop deeper and press lower, asking GK to distribute long so to avoid giving the ball away by trying to roll it out to a CB. Passibg to more direct near the end, again, I don’t want them losing possession on the edge of our area by playing short tiki taka. Hope that gives you some ideas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinbad7104 Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Second season done.. Not bad at all! Not sure if I'll stick with them or seek pastures new now though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
whispers Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 I'm rather surprised by how many AI teams play 4123 tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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