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Moff's Trident - Severing the defensive line.


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Ok, i say its back but it never really went anywhere.

For the few of you who downloaded my original trident for 08, you may recognise this.

Anyway, basically i've created a tactic that seems to be working really well. It's called the trident (even though it looks like a spear) because it offers 3 waves of attack. I'll post a screen shot of the formation and talk about the needs of each position bellow

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Striker - Needs to be quick, have good first touch, finishing, off the ball and passing - this guy will be your target man with balls played to feet

AMC (left) - needs to basically be a striker, pace and finishing are essential for this guy, passing and long shots aren't too bad either

AMC (right) - This guy needs good creativity, passing and a bit of pace wouldn't hurt too much - this guy is your playmaker

ML & MR - good solid wingers needed here, high crossing, passing, off the ball and tackling (sp?) are essential here

MC - Defensive mid needed here, tackling, work rate, stamina etc. and a good passing attribute is always helpful

DL & DR - Defensive attributes are a must here, don't worry too much about attacking attributes, but crossing is always nice.

DC's - they have to be quick, good at marking and tall (oh, tackling helps too)

Download link - http://rapidshare.com/files/162791902/Moff_s_Trident_09_V1__Man_City__Sep_2008_.tac.html

Please note - this is not a wonderous tactic like KIMZ (the God that is) - i can't guarentee that this will let you score in double figures. Its a solid tactic both aggressively and defensively with a good Shot/Shots on target ratio and it doesn't conceed too shabilly. If you have any tweaks to make or questions please let me know, and try this out!

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The tactic looks good but please get ride of Hugo Viana if you want to achieve anytihing.

Ha, let me explain that - all my attacking mids, Robino, Pandev, Elano and dearest Matias Fernandes, have been dropping like flies, so i've needed to play my back up players. Viana's not a bad player so i don't know what you're chatting about.

Anyway, here's the new link http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=e282502ba5dff845d2db6fb9a8902bda :)

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ok, after a few games: am lovin' it

great goals with crosses from the wingers, usually scored by the other winger and lovely play.

I found a bit of a gap between the DCs and the rest of the team, will do some adjustments having them a bit more attacking mentality. Also I noticed a few players (wingers, AMC) have higher mentality than closing down, which has been discussed in another thread.

Haven't played any top sides yet, so I am not judging the defense yet. The target man usually gets pretty low rating though, and I tried most of the suitable ManU players for that position.

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ok, after a few games: am lovin' it

great goals with crosses from the wingers, usually scored by the other winger and lovely play.

I found a bit of a gap between the DCs and the rest of the team, will do some adjustments having them a bit more attacking mentality. Also I noticed a few players (wingers, AMC) have higher mentality than closing down, which has been discussed in another thread.

Haven't played any top sides yet, so I am not judging the defense yet. The target man usually gets pretty low rating though, and I tried most of the suitable ManU players for that position.

Glad you're having such good results with it!

i just threw in the target man option as a means to keeping the ball on the ground, so taking it out probably won't be such a bad thing. Let me know if you're tweaking makes it even better, happy playing!

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hmm, made some adjustments, lost community shield, tied against portsmouth and lost at home against newcastle 0-4!!! I guess I will have to make a different approach ;) every other shot was a goal, even so teh game was even. disastrous, I should resign really..

will mention my changes soon, so they can be avoided / analyzed

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Well after the most disastrous start for me in a Football Manager game ever I decided to give this a try as it is pretty much the same formation as I was playing but I couldn't get it to work. Which is kind of embarresing really as I am using Manchester United. Never had this problem before, is it just me or is it harder to play good football and score?

I have made some tweaks to it and played two games, 1-0 against Manchester City and 3-0 against Fulham. It is looking promising, I will let you know how it continues.

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luca: what tweaks did you make?

I tweaked:

DCs 4 more mentality

DR/L 2 more mentality

MC 1 more mentality

no target man

forward runs for wingers

higher closing down on individual settings, so they match mentality setting

I am now going back to the original settings and tweak from there again. even so my playmaker has been doing pretty well, I am considering giving both my AMCs a free role and remove the playmaker (unless I decide to give one of them both... but it would require a once in a lifetime player to do that well I think)

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I am still perfecting it before I post up here my version of it. I started a new game as I thought that considering how bad I had done before putting this tactic in place the morale of the team may be affecting it's performance.

I will let you know what happens shortly.

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I am using this tactic, had 2 wins and a draw but only won 1-0 both times. I am having some shots (5 last match but 0 on target). I am playing as Man Utd, if this tactic can be perfected it would be very nice.

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used the original minus target man with a bit more success now.

but the comebacks of teams seem much better these days... what do you guys do, if you are e.g. 2-0 up at halftime? happens a lot that I tie those games. all in all, defense doesn't seem too good with the current settings. considering dropping the man marking, even so with ferdindand/vidic I should have good enough players for that.

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