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On ‎20‎/‎03‎/‎2020 at 17:34, Brother Ben said:

@joseph_hirst To answer your question, no it would really struggle

Stretch to £275 and you can get this, ex business models I would guess, we use them at my work, solid as a rock last for years.  Ideal for the amount of leagues you want to run

Thanks for the help, annoyingly the one you've linked there is the exact model of my work laptop but I can't install Steam on it :(

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Hi guys,

I'm only looking to play FM (gaming wise) and usually only load 4 major leagues (England, Germany, Spain, Italy) with two tiers apart from England where I load down to League 2.

Just wondering if the below laptop would run it smoothly enough?

 

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10 hours ago, DCBeast said:

Hi guys,

I'm only looking to play FM (gaming wise) and usually only load 4 major leagues (England, Germany, Spain, Italy) with two tiers apart from England where I load down to League 2.

Just wondering if the below laptop would run it smoothly enough?

 

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She be ok - not great. It only has 256gb storage - you'd want to increase that at some timein the future it will fill up fast.

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The Specs for my laptop are as follows (approx 4 years old from PC Specialist):

INTEL(R) CORE(TM) i7-6700HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz

Memory 16.0 GB DDR

GPU Intel(R) HD Graphics 530

GPU 1 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 965M

Do people think this laptop will comfortably run a few leagues on FM 20 (before i download it)? 

Any advice would be greatly appreciated

 

 

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13 hours ago, mon_irl said:

Close to pulling the trigger on this one, seems a decent deal and should easily boss Football Manager at any kind of leagues / database chosen?

Anything to warn me of? (Age of Empires is a distance secondary issue)

https://www.box.co.uk/OMEN-by-HP-Obelisk-875-0005na-5MM75EA-_2456130.html#DetailTop

You have very little storage - try these

https://www.box.co.uk/OMEN-by-HP-Obelisk-875-0005na-5MM75EA-_2456130.html
https://www.box.co.uk/HP-Pavilion-Power-580-100na-4NF08EA-Ga_2355919.html
https://www.box.co.uk/DG.E0HEK.027-Acer-Nitro-N50-600-Desktop-Gaming-Tower-_2348179.html

 

10 hours ago, 1gaz1 said:

The Specs for my laptop are as follows (approx 4 years old from PC Specialist):

INTEL(R) CORE(TM) i7-6700HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz

Memory 16.0 GB DDR

GPU Intel(R) HD Graphics 530

GPU 1 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 965M

Do people think this laptop will comfortably run a few leagues on FM 20 (before i download it)? 

Any advice would be greatly appreciated

It is free to play at the moment.

9 hours ago, Brother Ben said:

Definitely 

but you could, you know, just download it and find out?

This

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12 minutes ago, Mr Tom said:

Will a i5 1035g1 be good to run fm (fast and smoothly), with 5 or so leagues??? Or is a 3500u better???

3500u is about 7 years old.

The 1035g1 would be a much newer processor and better for FM. It should be ok for 5 or so leagues.

What's the budget?

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33 minutes ago, Smurf said:

3500u is about 7 years old.

The 1035g1 would be a much newer processor and better for FM. It should be ok for 5 or so leagues.

What's the budget?

He means the Ryzen which is fairly new - https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-i5-1035G1-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3500U/3558vs3421

They are fairly similar but the Intel has a slight advantage, both are low power cpus so they will probably throttle a fair bit under heavy load.

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5 hours ago, EdL said:

He means the Ryzen which is fairly new - https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-i5-1035G1-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3500U/3558vs3421

They are fairly similar but the Intel has a slight advantage, both are low power cpus so they will probably throttle a fair bit under heavy load.

So, basically your saying that the i5 1035G1 can run fm smoothly???   

I know desktops have more punch,but when a Ryzen 5 or i5 desktop cost 500 and another amount for the monitor and that. I will leave it😂

 

either of these will be fine?
 

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-s340-14-laptop-intel-core-i5-256-gb-ssd-blue-10199553-pdt.html

 

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-pavilion-15-bc550na-15-6-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5-gtx-1050-512-gb-ssd-10193844-pdt.html

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Of those two, get the second one for sure, a proper laptop with higher power CPU, not Win10 S (that is a cut down version of windows with some limitations)

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4 minutes ago, EdL said:

Actually I just looked more into the limitations of Win 10 S, you cannot run Steam on it as it only allows apps from the Microsoft app store, so 100% do not buy the Lenovo!

 

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/03/windows-10-s-microsoft-faster-pc-comparison

Thanks pal. I didn’t even know that was a thing. I will look out for that😀
 

prefered the screen on that as well😂

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19 minutes ago, EdL said:

Actually I just looked more into the limitations of Win 10 S, you cannot run Steam on it as it only allows apps from the Microsoft app store, so 100% do not buy the Lenovo!

 

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/03/windows-10-s-microsoft-faster-pc-comparison


just out interest. Can fm20 run smoothly with a i310th gen or the Ryzen 3 3200u???

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Probably I can't be too specific as I've not tried it and it very much depends what your expectations are for number of leagues you run and what your speed is acceptable to you and 3d perf depends on the graphics card, would always recommend a system with dedicated card rather than onboard

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19 hours ago, Smurf said:

3500u is about 7 years old.

The 1035g1 would be a much newer processor and better for FM. It should be ok for 5 or so leagues.

What's the budget?

Can a i3 1005g1 or Ryzen 3200u run it well. For example, the top five leagues???

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7 minutes ago, Mr Tom said:

Can a i3 1005g1 or Ryzen 3200u run it well. For example, the top five leagues???

Unknown - I have never tested any processors or stress loads with top five leagues!

What are the top five leagues for you? How many divisions? Database size? 

How fast is fast for you?
A week in the game at 10 minutes a week might be fast for me but slow for you.

How many career seasons do you play? If you play 100 seasons like I do - it might struggle after 20 seaons, it might struggle at 10 seasons - the answer is just too ambigious.

@EdL

 

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Yes thats basically what I was trying to say, its not an easy question to answer, so I don't want to give a definitive answer and potentially mislead you - I would say they would probably be ok, its not going to be super fast or anthing as they are lower end processors but they are modern enough the performance shouldn't be terrible

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My computer loads up for about 5 mins then goes to a blue screen (crash dump) it does it all the time so every time I try to do something it gets halfway through and goes to blue sceen. So I think it's time for a new computer. Anybody got any recommendations? I know it's a big ask but my budget isn't very big. But I need a fast computer for playing fm. Thanx all

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20 minutes ago, Barry1983 said:

My computer loads up for about 5 mins then goes to a blue screen (crash dump) it does it all the time so every time I try to do something it gets halfway through and goes to blue sceen. So I think it's time for a new computer. Anybody got any recommendations? I know it's a big ask but my budget isn't very big. But I need a fast computer for playing fm. Thanx all

What does "isn't very big" mean - a £1000 is small to me - but could be big for someone else.

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Been researching into building a custom pc and i'm going to do it.

£2k budget

I only play Football Manager, Stellaris, Cities Skyline, Civ 6 and some other strategy games. 

I'm really building it to make Football Manager run as well as possible though. I like to play with tons of leagues loaded and over 200k players...I know no setup could run that fast but just wondering what would be best? 

What do you think of these 2 i came up with?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Calum1995/saved/#view=qHXJf7

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Calum1995/saved/#view=LchF8d

 

 

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30 minutes ago, Barry1983 said:

Max about £200-250 told you not very big

Generally I tell people to not bother with a budget so low - and to keep saving as I feel you might as well throw your money away.

Have you considered Google Stadia? 

 

18 minutes ago, Calum955 said:

Been researching into building a custom pc and i'm going to do it.

£2k budget

I only play Football Manager, Stellaris, Cities Skyline, Civ 6 and some other strategy games. 

I'm really building it to make Football Manager run as well as possible though. I like to play with tons of leagues loaded and over 200k players...I know no setup could run that fast but just wondering what would be best? 

What do you think of these 2 i came up with?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Calum1995/saved/#view=qHXJf7

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Calum1995/saved/#view=LchF8d

I'd go with the Intel one to be honest.

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2 minutes ago, Smurf said:

Generally I tell people to not bother with a budget so low - and to keep saving as I feel you might as well throw your money away.

Have you considered Google Stadia? 

 

I'd go with the Intel one to be honest.

What budget would you suggest if I were to save up? And what is Google stadia? 

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35 minutes ago, Calum955 said:

Been researching into building a custom pc and i'm going to do it.

£2k budget

I only play Football Manager, Stellaris, Cities Skyline, Civ 6 and some other strategy games. 

I'm really building it to make Football Manager run as well as possible though. I like to play with tons of leagues loaded and over 200k players...I know no setup could run that fast but just wondering what would be best? 

What do you think of these 2 i came up with?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Calum1995/saved/#view=qHXJf7

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Calum1995/saved/#view=LchF8d

 

 

My advice would be don't spend £2k to play those games, it is unecessary, especially 32GB RAM will not be any help, I'd stick with 16GB for now unless you have some other non-game requirement where 32GB would actually get used.

I'd also get cheaper motherboards, unless you are really going for hardcore overclocking they aren't worth the money then and even then its debatable.

You will probably find you can get a WIn10 licence cheaper than that as well (check amazon for example).

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3 minutes ago, Smurf said:

I will look at both thanx. Av u got any links then for desktops if I save up and go for double my price? Thanx

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6 hours ago, Smurf said:

Unknown - I have never tested any processors or stress loads with top five leagues!

What are the top five leagues for you? How many divisions? Database size? 

How fast is fast for you?
A week in the game at 10 minutes a week might be fast for me but slow for you.

How many career seasons do you play? If you play 100 seasons like I do - it might struggle after 20 seaons, it might struggle at 10 seasons - the answer is just too ambigious.

@EdL

 

So, would it be fine if I had the premier league to the national league north/league? And would it still run more leagues, if I wanted???

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3 hours ago, Mr Tom said:

So, would it be fine if I had the premier league to the national league north/league? And would it still run more leagues, if I wanted???

As he said, he doesn't know, because he's not tested all available processors to see how well each performs.

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Hi, 

My desktop PC is now used by my kids and but is a few years old and starting to play up

Now looking to getting a laptop for them where something that will play Sims 4 (to high specs) and obviously football manager 

Daughter is also interested in photography so needs to be good enough for photo editing aswell if possible 

Budget around 700. I've looked around but it's a minefield to be honest and I'm not very tech savvy  any help where I get best for the budget would be greatly appreciated please 

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1 hour ago, rangersw12 said:

Hi, 

My desktop PC is now used by my kids and but is a few years old and starting to play up

Now looking to getting a laptop for them where something that will play Sims 4 (to high specs) and obviously football manager 

Daughter is also interested in photography so needs to be good enough for photo editing aswell if possible 

Budget around 700. I've looked around but it's a minefield to be honest and I'm not very tech savvy  any help where I get best for the budget would be greatly appreciated please 

As a designer - I know the needs for the photo editing software and this is would suffice and in your budget.

https://www.box.co.uk/30026175-Medion-Erazer-P6605_2496888.html

With a 128gb SD drive only the OS should really be installed on that drive - you should really set up the rest of the computer to install on the other larger drive.

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-install-apps-separate-drive-windows-10

With the OS on the 128gb drive it will boot your computer up really fast and have a good working speed. 

Graphics Card is helpful for both FM and for photography.

2000gb Hard Drive is essential for large storage of photos - and also the software for photo editing will need large volumes of hard disk drive for the "Scratch Disk" which it will use this space to store the history of the document so it doesn't fill up your RAM. It's temporary storage and the larger the scratch disk typically the better.

 

The only downside on this is the RAM - it's 8gb which is adequate for FM - but for photo editing 16gb would be ideal if not even 32gb.

In saying that - it's £600 which leaves £100 for RAM upgrade - if you are uncomfortable doing it yourself, then a place like Currys/PC World can do it for you and it should be reasonably costed.

 

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5 minutes ago, Barry1983 said:

Sorry its the same one. Both pics are the same computer. So your saying its OK? 

It fits the specs for FM so it should run ok - nothing amazing - but it will run.

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Hi, I'm in the same boat as most people on here.  Looking for a budget laptop to play FM 2020.  All i would really use this laptop for is FM. Was hoping to only spend 3-400 on it. Happy to consider refurbished ect.  Or am I in dreamland with this budget? Played last years on the Ipad but really don't emjoy the touch version.

 

Any help and links to possible laptops is appreciated.

 

Mac

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23 minutes ago, mac2020 said:

Hi, I'm in the same boat as most people on here.  Looking for a budget laptop to play FM 2020.  All i would really use this laptop for is FM. Was hoping to only spend 3-400 on it. Happy to consider refurbished ect.  Or am I in dreamland with this budget? Played last years on the Ipad but really don't emjoy the touch version.

Any help and links to possible laptops is appreciated.

Mac

I can't find anything I'd be comfortable recommending.

 

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2 hours ago, Smurf said:

As a designer - I know the needs for the photo editing software and this is would suffice and in your budget.

https://www.box.co.uk/30026175-Medion-Erazer-P6605_2496888.html

With a 128gb SD drive only the OS should really be installed on that drive - you should really set up the rest of the computer to install on the other larger drive.

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-install-apps-separate-drive-windows-10

With the OS on the 128gb drive it will boot your computer up really fast and have a good working speed. 

Graphics Card is helpful for both FM and for photography.

2000gb Hard Drive is essential for large storage of photos - and also the software for photo editing will need large volumes of hard disk drive for the "Scratch Disk" which it will use this space to store the history of the document so it doesn't fill up your RAM. It's temporary storage and the larger the scratch disk typically the better.

 

The only downside on this is the RAM - it's 8gb which is adequate for FM - but for photo editing 16gb would be ideal if not even 32gb.

In saying that - it's £600 which leaves £100 for RAM upgrade - if you are uncomfortable doing it yourself, then a place like Currys/PC World can do it for you and it should be reasonably costed.

 

Thank you for your help

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Hi, I have a budget of around 600-700 looking for a laptop to play fm on at full settings, is this a possibility and if so could anyone provide me with one that will last for a few seasons to come as this is a treat for myself 

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35 minutes ago, Barry1983 said:

Would this be any better? Thanx

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Firstly, none of those images actually says what model/speed processor it has.

Secondly, I wouldn't go for it. It's a 2nd generation i5 processor, so regardless of the specific model, it's going to be approx 8 years old, and the graphics card is poor anyway. Even if it ran FM, I'd be dubious on how long it'd last without a hardware failure that puts you back to having to either get a new PC or trying to buy compatible parts to fix it.

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1 hour ago, Joe Churchie said:

Hi, I have a budget of around 600-700 looking for a laptop to play fm on at full settings, is this a possibility and if so could anyone provide me with one that will last for a few seasons to come as this is a treat for myself 

I have no idea what full settings means. But 600-700 you're looking at low-mid range - probably wouldn't achieve "full settings".

This would be good though.

https://www.box.co.uk/30026175-Medion-Erazer-P6605_2496888.html

 

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https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/medion-erazer-p15603-core-i5-9300h-8gb-1tb-hdd-256gb-ssd-15.6-inch-geforc-30027146/version.asp

Thank you so much for replying, I don't know much about laptops at all but would be gutted to waste money on something unsuitable. 

I just wanted 3d graphics with no lag and a few of the major leagues, would you think this would be suitable, I know it's above the budget but if its good I'd pay a bit more

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4 minutes ago, Joe Churchie said:

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/medion-erazer-p15603-core-i5-9300h-8gb-1tb-hdd-256gb-ssd-15.6-inch-geforc-30027146/version.asp

Thank you so much for replying, I don't know much about laptops at all but would be gutted to waste money on something unsuitable. 

I just wanted 3d graphics with no lag and a few of the major leagues, would you think this would be suitable, I know it's above the budget but if its good I'd pay a bit more

Your one has more storage 

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/medion-p15609-core-i7-9750h-8gb-512gb-ssd-15.6-inch-geforce-gtx-1650-window-30028175/version.asp

The above is slightly better processor - and adequate storage.

That's about it really - either or - perfectly fine.

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3 hours ago, JordanMillward_1 said:

Firstly, none of those images actually says what model/speed processor it has.

Secondly, I wouldn't go for it. It's a 2nd generation i5 processor, so regardless of the specific model, it's going to be approx 8 years old, and the graphics card is poor anyway. Even if it ran FM, I'd be dubious on how long it'd last without a hardware failure that puts you back to having to either get a new PC or trying to buy compatible parts to fix it.

OK thanx you. Do you have any recommendations I can have a look at? I'm not very good at picking pcs. 

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