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I realised after a bit of researchm that I may have to up budget, especially as I prefer 17in screen..

Have found these at £1,299  £1,499  £1,999 and £1,799. I could not see a lot of difference in specs so would go for cheapest. Which would be best choice or are there better alternatives?

Dell G7 17 7000 17.3-inch FHD 60Hz IPS Anti-Glare LED Gaming Laptop - Intel-Core i7-9750H, 16 GB RAM, 256GB SSD & 1TB, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with 8GB GDDR6, Fingerprint Reader, Windows 10 Home

 

HP OMEN 17-cb0005na 17.3 Inch FHD 144 Hz Gaming Laptop, Intel Core i7-9750H, 16 GB RAM, 512 GB SSD, 1 TB HDD, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6 GB GDDR6 Dedicated) Graphics, Windows 10 Home - Black

 

ASUS ROG Strix Scar III G731GW 17.3" FHD 240Hz Thin Bezel Gaming Laptop (Intel i7-9750H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 8GB, 1TB PCI-e SSD, 16GB RAM, Per Key RGB, Windows 10)

 

ASUS ROG Strix HERO G731GV 17.3 Inch Full HD 144 Hz Gaming Laptop - (Black) (Intel i7-9750H, Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB , 512 GB PCI-e SSD + 1 TB SSHD, 16 GB RAM, Per Key RGB)

 

 

 

 

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14 hours ago, knap said:

@Smurf

I realised after a bit of researchm that I may have to up budget, especially as I prefer 17in screen..

Well if that's the budget!

Chassis & Display
Octane Series: 17.3" Matte Full HD 144Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080) + G-Sync
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 Eight Core Processor i9-9900K (3.6GHz) 16MB Cache
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair 2400MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2060 - 6.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W)

Price: £1,964.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.ie/saved-configurations/octaneVI-17/VYqXS75cYW/

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That is cracking for the price. I was looking at cheapest with the best spec based on the OP information.

 

If the Budget was say £1,300 what would be best spec? Keep CPU 16MB RAM and cheaper graphics and SSD Drive?

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2 hours ago, knap said:

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You can customise it whatever way you want.

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After a few changes I could only get the price down to about £1,750, so looks like the Dell is best option for price.

Thanks for advice.

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7 hours ago, Smurf said:

Well if that's the budget!

Chassis & Display
Octane Series: 17.3" Matte Full HD 144Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080) + G-Sync
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 Eight Core Processor i9-9900K (3.6GHz) 16MB Cache
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair 2400MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2060 - 6.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W)

Price: £1,964.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.ie/saved-configurations/octaneVI-17/VYqXS75cYW/

Hi

 

I was considering the Octane with the i9-9900K (and the RTX2080) but have read that heat/cooling could be a problem. Presumably this would not be the case with FM20?

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1 hour ago, knap said:

After a few changes I could only get the price down to about £1,750, so looks like the Dell is best option for price.

Thanks for advice.

I wouldn't say that

Chassis & Display
Octane Series: 17.3" Matte Full HD 144Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080) + G-Sync
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor i7-9700K (3.6GHz) 12MB Cache
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair 2400MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2060 - 6.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st Storage Drive
NOT REQUIRED
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated 6 in 1 Card Reader (SD /Mini SD/ SDHC / SDXC / MMC / RSMMC)

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56 minutes ago, Steve Atherton said:

Hi

 

I was considering the Octane with the i9-9900K (and the RTX2080) but have read that heat/cooling could be a problem. Presumably this would not be the case with FM20?

Depends on cooling situation - you can contact the guys at pc specialist and ask them.

From a bottleneck point of view techincially it's sound.

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Hello, I'm thinking about buying FM2020

My laptop:

Win10

Intel Core i5 5200 2.2GHz

8gb ram

Intel HD Graphic 5500

AMD Radeon ™ R9 M375

 

I would like to start the game with the two highest leagues from Poland, England and Italy. The database depends on your tips. Is it possible on this laptop?

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22 minutes ago, maciejros said:

Hello, I'm thinking about buying FM2020

My laptop:

Win10

Intel Core i5 5200 2.2GHz

8gb ram

Intel HD Graphic 5500

AMD Radeon ™ R9 M375

 

I would like to start the game with the two highest leagues from Poland, England and Italy. The database depends on your tips. Is it possible on this laptop?

The i5-5200 is a U type processor - which is a 5th gen processor (5xxx) where the 5 denotes the gen.

We are on generation 10 at the moment - so it's clearly roughly 5 years old. And I would consider this becoming end of life (EOL). 

In that regard - I wouldn't recommend it for FM.

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Looking for a laptop for the budget of around £1k up or down a little don't mind. 

 

What i'm looking for is something that will play on a large database, guaranteed no issue. 

Won't overheat or get very hot (I get weary when a pc gets hot) and would like to use it in bed or whatever.

Touch screen would be an interesting bonus (not essential at all)

Ideally best hardware so I don't need to upgrade next yr. Laptop would be used only for FM, maybe single player games like Witcher or Europa Universalis and movies.   

Could you list multiple laptops that fit the range please. 

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Hello fellow football managers!  Im looking for a new laptop and im basically one click away from buying this one https://www.webhallen.com/se/product/312364-Asus-G731GT-H7101T-17-3-FHD-IPS-120hz-i7-9750H-16GB-512GB-SSD-GTX-1650-Win-10 but since im not that good on computers i just wanted an opinion on how it will run for all leauges from England (vanarama and above) + 2 leagues from 5 nations + 1 league from 17 nations and players database with around 100 000k - 120 000k , other then that i can add that lap top will only be used for playing FM and watching sports, and i only play in commentary or 2d. It would be much appriciated to get an opinion from you guys, Cheers!

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Looking for a semi-decent laptop in the $500-600 range. 

Ideally would run 3D to a decent extent (mainly for replays anyway), and then be able to load the top few leagues from the top European countries and perhaps a DB of at least 60,000 players, if not a bit more.

Any suggestions would be welcomed. 

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Hi

I am considering these two laptops MSI Prestige 15 & Asus UX534ftc

Do anyone know which would run FM better? They will mainly be used for my studies (Some PLC programming and Autodesk fusion 360) and FM. Alternatives are welcomed but it is important for me that my next laptop is lightweigt and in the same price category as the two i have linked to.

 

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Hi all,

I am looking at purchasing a refurbished late 2013 MacBook Pro with the following specs:

-8GB RAM

-Intel i5-4258U

-Intel Iris 5100

I was wondering if this device would be able to play FM20 at a good speed. Comments appreciated.

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Hi guys,

I would like help deciding between two laptops. I'm in Australia and I'm tossing up between MSI Prestige 15 and Aftershock Vapor Pro 15 (Eluktronics Mag 15 in USA, XMG Fusion 15 in Europe). They are both roughly the same price here with the specs below.

- MSI Prestige 15 has i7 10th gen 10710U, NVIDIA 1650 Max Q graphics, 16GB ram, 512GB SSD

- Aftershock Vapor 15 Pro has i7 9th gen 9750H, NVIDIA 1660TI graphics, 16GB ram, 512GB SSD

I know that the Vapor Pro 15 will perform better all round (as it is capable of playing AAA games with higher fps), but what I am more concerned with is whether or not I'll be able to notice much of a difference with playing FM. I would like to play journeyman saves so I'd like to load as many leagues and with as high a setting as possible.

Does anyone know how much of a time difference I would realistically be able to notice between the two?

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Hello,I know nothing about lap tops,I wanted to buy one for about £600-750.anyone got any good advice on one in thos price range.i know it wont be a world beater at this price but any help would be welcome .i will mostly use it to play fm .thank you 

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I cannot believe nobody is helping out here - unbeliveable! I spent a long time keeping this great thread going - it's a reboot of an original thread from years ago.

Can someone please help these kind folk out? I can no longer dedicate time to help each individual person.

Can someone take over for a while?

 

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On 14/02/2020 at 16:05, Polski97 said:

Looking for a laptop for the budget of around £1k up or down a little don't mind. 

 

What i'm looking for is something that will play on a large database, guaranteed no issue. 

Won't overheat or get very hot (I get weary when a pc gets hot) and would like to use it in bed or whatever.

Touch screen would be an interesting bonus (not essential at all)

Ideally best hardware so I don't need to upgrade next yr. Laptop would be used only for FM, maybe single player games like Witcher or Europa Universalis and movies.   

Could you list multiple laptops that fit the range please. 

Here are a few that might suit you. After about £800 or so, to get much better the price jumps up a fair bit.

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/dell-g3-15-3590-15-6-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5-gtx-1650-1-tb-hdd-256-gb-ssd-10196336-pdt.html

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-legion-y540-15irh-15-6-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5-gtx-1660-ti-1-tb-hdd-128-gb-ssd-10193597-pdt.html

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/acer-nitro-5-an515-54-15-6-intel-core-i5-gtx-1650-gaming-laptop-1-tb-hdd-128-ssd-10194209-pdt.html

Those would all do the job you're wanting them to do, and have plenty of storage space for more games if needed.

On 18/02/2020 at 22:19, Zeenan said:

Hello fellow football managers!  Im looking for a new laptop and im basically one click away from buying this one https://www.webhallen.com/se/product/312364-Asus-G731GT-H7101T-17-3-FHD-IPS-120hz-i7-9750H-16GB-512GB-SSD-GTX-1650-Win-10 but since im not that good on computers i just wanted an opinion on how it will run for all leauges from England (vanarama and above) + 2 leagues from 5 nations + 1 league from 17 nations and players database with around 100 000k - 120 000k , other then that i can add that lap top will only be used for playing FM and watching sports, and i only play in commentary or 2d. It would be much appriciated to get an opinion from you guys, Cheers!

That should do the job fine, I'd imagine you'd probably be able to add more leagues/nations than that, but it all comes down to how quickly you want it to run. But yea, very nice choice.

On 20/02/2020 at 14:53, SBII said:

Hi

I am considering these two laptops MSI Prestige 15 & Asus UX534ftc

Do anyone know which would run FM better? They will mainly be used for my studies (Some PLC programming and Autodesk fusion 360) and FM. Alternatives are welcomed but it is important for me that my next laptop is lightweigt and in the same price category as the two i have linked to.

 

Given they're using the new 10th gen processors, I honestly couldn't say how well they'd run FM. This is because FM relies on single core power, rather than work spread across multiple cores, and I have no experience in how well the newer generation processors scale up their processing power as they turbo.

On 23/02/2020 at 12:21, lewisbennett3956 said:

Hi all,

I am looking at purchasing a refurbished late 2013 MacBook Pro with the following specs:

-8GB RAM

-Intel i5-4258U

-Intel Iris 5100

I was wondering if this device would be able to play FM20 at a good speed. Comments appreciated.

No, I wouldn't go for that, unless you can honestly not afford anything else. That processor is not only 7 years old and so hitting the end of useful life for most gaming uses, but it's a U-type too, which means it is designed around low power usage, rather than high performance. It's not a lot over the minimum requirements for processing power, and you might find you end up needing a new laptop sooner rather than later.

On 24/02/2020 at 09:41, laptopadvice said:

Hi guys,

I would like help deciding between two laptops. I'm in Australia and I'm tossing up between MSI Prestige 15 and Aftershock Vapor Pro 15 (Eluktronics Mag 15 in USA, XMG Fusion 15 in Europe). They are both roughly the same price here with the specs below.

- MSI Prestige 15 has i7 10th gen 10710U, NVIDIA 1650 Max Q graphics, 16GB ram, 512GB SSD

- Aftershock Vapor 15 Pro has i7 9th gen 9750H, NVIDIA 1660TI graphics, 16GB ram, 512GB SSD

I know that the Vapor Pro 15 will perform better all round (as it is capable of playing AAA games with higher fps), but what I am more concerned with is whether or not I'll be able to notice much of a difference with playing FM. I would like to play journeyman saves so I'd like to load as many leagues and with as high a setting as possible.

Does anyone know how much of a time difference I would realistically be able to notice between the two?

The Vapor would actually be better for FM anyway, as the new 10th gen processors have a low starting speed (below the requirements for FM, actually) but allow themselves to ramp up to high speeds. The issue there is that it relies on temperatures, etc, keeping such that they're able to ramp up to higher speeds. The 9th gen processor in the Vapor, on the other hand, has a pretty high starting speed, can go up to basically match the max for the 10th gen, and given FM utilises a single core a lot more than it does multiple cores, the 10th gen having more cores won't make much difference.

 

On 25/02/2020 at 13:34, Weasek said:

Hello,I know nothing about lap tops,I wanted to buy one for about £600-750.anyone got any good advice on one in thos price range.i know it wont be a world beater at this price but any help would be welcome .i will mostly use it to play fm .thank you 

For the bottom/middle of your price range, I'd go for something like this:

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/acer-nitro-5-17-3-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5-gtx-1050-256-gb-ssd-10202548-pdt.html

Towards the higher end of your price range, you'd be looking at something like this:

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/msi-gf63-thin-15-6-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5-gtx-1650-256-gb-ssd-10195496-pdt.html

And if you can afford to get to approx £800, you'd be able to get this:

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/dell-g3-15-6-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5-gtx-1050-1-tb-hdd-256-gb-ssd-10196091-pdt.html

All of those will happily run FM, all have good processors, the £799 one would have more storage space and a better processor, but all of them are very capable.

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16 minutes ago, JordanMillward_1 said:

Here are a few that might suit you. After about £800 or so, to get much better the price jumps up a fair bit.

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/dell-g3-15-3590-15-6-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5-gtx-1650-1-tb-hdd-256-gb-ssd-10196336-pdt.html

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-legion-y540-15irh-15-6-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5-gtx-1660-ti-1-tb-hdd-128-gb-ssd-10193597-pdt.html

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/acer-nitro-5-an515-54-15-6-intel-core-i5-gtx-1650-gaming-laptop-1-tb-hdd-128-ssd-10194209-pdt.html

Those would all do the job you're wanting them to do, and have plenty of storage space for more games if needed.

That should do the job fine, I'd imagine you'd probably be able to add more leagues/nations than that, but it all comes down to how quickly you want it to run. But yea, very nice choice.

Given they're using the new 10th gen processors, I honestly couldn't say how well they'd run FM. This is because FM relies on single core power, rather than work spread across multiple cores, and I have no experience in how well the newer generation processors scale up their processing power as they turbo.

No, I wouldn't go for that, unless you can honestly not afford anything else. That processor is not only 7 years old and so hitting the end of useful life for most gaming uses, but it's a U-type too, which means it is designed around low power usage, rather than high performance. It's not a lot over the minimum requirements for processing power, and you might find you end up needing a new laptop sooner rather than later.

The Vapor would actually be better for FM anyway, as the new 10th gen processors have a low starting speed (below the requirements for FM, actually) but allow themselves to ramp up to high speeds. The issue there is that it relies on temperatures, etc, keeping such that they're able to ramp up to higher speeds. The 9th gen processor in the Vapor, on the other hand, has a pretty high starting speed, can go up to basically match the max for the 10th gen, and given FM utilises a single core a lot more than it does multiple cores, the 10th gen having more cores won't make much difference.

 

For the bottom/middle of your price range, I'd go for something like this:

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/acer-nitro-5-17-3-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5-gtx-1050-256-gb-ssd-10202548-pdt.html

Towards the higher end of your price range, you'd be looking at something like this:

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/msi-gf63-thin-15-6-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5-gtx-1650-256-gb-ssd-10195496-pdt.html

And if you can afford to get to approx £800, you'd be able to get this:

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/dell-g3-15-6-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5-gtx-1050-1-tb-hdd-256-gb-ssd-10196091-pdt.html

All of those will happily run FM, all have good processors, the £799 one would have more storage space and a better processor, but all of them are very capable.

Thank you very much for the advice I will look into these now.i will try &push my budget (convince my wife)for the best one

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17 hours ago, JordanMillward_1 said:

Given they're using the new 10th gen processors, I honestly couldn't say how well they'd run FM. This is because FM relies on single core power, rather than work spread across multiple cores, and I have no experience in how well the newer generation processors scale up their processing power as they turbo.

Thanks for the help, i think that i have decided to buy the XMG Fusion 15 instead as it seems, looking at your answers to others, that the i7 9750H is a decent choice. 

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Hi I’ve just brought this pc:

Lenovo Legion T530 90JY002YUK Desktop PC, AMD Ryzen 5 Processor, 16GB RAM, 1TB HDD + 128GB SSD, Radeon RX 570, Black

will it run fm at a decent speed? Ideally I want to run the 5 main leagues as well as a few extra ones but that isn’t the end of the world 

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11 hours ago, ghb__ said:

Hi I’ve just brought this pc:

Lenovo Legion T530 90JY002YUK Desktop PC, AMD Ryzen 5 Processor, 16GB RAM, 1TB HDD + 128GB SSD, Radeon RX 570, Black

will it run fm at a decent speed? Ideally I want to run the 5 main leagues as well as a few extra ones but that isn’t the end of the world 

Can you say what model processor it uses? Just saying "Ryzen 5 Processor" isn't enough information, there's a lot of those. It should run the leagues you want alright though.

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1 hour ago, JordanMillward_1 said:

Can you say what model processor it uses? Just saying "Ryzen 5 Processor" isn't enough information, there's a lot of those. It should run the leagues you want alright though.

https://www.johnlewis.com/lenovo-legion-t530-90jy002yuk-desktop-pc-amd-ryzen-5-processor-16gb-ram-1tb-hdd-128gb-ssd-radeon-rx-570-black/p3947307
 

here’s the link to the pc

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Not the best processor for FM (FM prefers single-core power, which generally Intel does better than AMD), but it should run things without an issue, and not bad for the price.

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19 minutes ago, JordanMillward_1 said:

Not the best processor for FM (FM prefers single-core power, which generally Intel does better than AMD), but it should run things without an issue, and not bad for the price.

Thanks for your help!

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Hi. I bought a new laptop with specs AMD Ryzen 5 3500U, 8GB RAM και AMD Radeon Vega 8. I checked before I buy the laptop if I can run the game and while I saw I could run it very easily, I am facing a lot of problems as the game has very big loading game and the match engine runs with one star in low settings. Could someone let me know if I bought the wrong laptop if there is something else goin on?

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2 hours ago, Andreas7 said:

Hi. I bought a new laptop with specs AMD Ryzen 5 3500U, 8GB RAM και AMD Radeon Vega 8. I checked before I buy the laptop if I can run the game and while I saw I could run it very easily, I am facing a lot of problems as the game has very big loading game and the match engine runs with one star in low settings. Could someone let me know if I bought the wrong laptop if there is something else goin on?

It'll run it (although the base speed of the processor is minimum spec for the game, it's only the turbo speed, if the processor can manage to reach it, that'll run it well), but it isn't the best processor for the game, I'm afraid. It also depends on how many nations/leagues/players you're trying to run the game with. With that processor, I'd try to keep it down to half a dozen nations and their leagues to keep it from slowing down too much.

What was your budget for the laptop?

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8 minutes ago, JordanMillward_1 said:

It'll run it (although the base speed of the processor is minimum spec for the game, it's only the turbo speed, if the processor can manage to reach it, that'll run it well), but it isn't the best processor for the game, I'm afraid. It also depends on how many nations/leagues/players you're trying to run the game with. With that processor, I'd try to keep it down to half a dozen nations and their leagues to keep it from slowing down too much.

What was your budget for the laptop?

I run it with six nations. My main problem is the match engine. I was expecting that with the Vega 8 I would be able to enjoy the matches in very good detail. My budget was £500.

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Just now, Andreas7 said:

I run it with six nations. My main problem is the match engine. I was expecting that with the Vega 8 I would be able to enjoy the matches in very good detail. My budget was £500.

I'd turn the graphics down if that's the main issue - Vega 8 is basically the AMD version of the Intel graphics processing chips, it's not a proper dedicated graphics card.

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Hello all,

Great thread thank you. I’m considering getting a Surface Pro- mainly because I’m travelling/flying a lot so something ‘tablet-like’ might suit. Has anyone got any experience of FM on a Surface Pro?

Thanks in advance!

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4 hours ago, Toonarmyfc said:

Hello all,

Great thread thank you. I’m considering getting a Surface Pro- mainly because I’m travelling/flying a lot so something ‘tablet-like’ might suit. Has anyone got any experience of FM on a Surface Pro?

Thanks in advance!

Which Surface Pro? There are a number of models, and the hardware of the one you pick will make a difference.

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10 hours ago, JordanMillward_1 said:

Which Surface Pro? There are a number of models, and the hardware of the one you pick will make a difference.

Thanks @JordanMillward_1

Looking at the options, it’d be the Tablet version rather than the laptop. Surface Pro 7, and the choice is whether to go for the i5 or if it’s worth the extra $ for the i7 16GB 256GB model. 

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18 minutes ago, Toonarmyfc said:

Thanks @JordanMillward_1

Looking at the options, it’d be the Tablet version rather than the laptop. Surface Pro 7, and the choice is whether to go for the i5 or if it’s worth the extra $ for the i7 16GB 256GB model. 

I honestly can't say, because the Surface Pro 7 uses the new 10th generation Intel processors, which have a low base processing speed (below the minimum requirements for FM), with a half-decent processor speed that is the maximum they can reach, but seem to rely more on multi-core processing. This isn't good for FM, because FM relies on single-core processing much more.

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49 minutes ago, JordanMillward_1 said:

I honestly can't say, because the Surface Pro 7 uses the new 10th generation Intel processors, which have a low base processing speed (below the minimum requirements for FM), with a half-decent processor speed that is the maximum they can reach, but seem to rely more on multi-core processing. This isn't good for FM, because FM relies on single-core processing much more.

I don't imagine its much of a worry they will be fast, base clock speed is not a great tool for expressing performance these days, but for minimum specs it is very hard to describe but a latest gen i5 or i7 CPU will be plenty fast enough

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Having  said that I wouldn't generally recommend Surface for gaming as thats not what they are designed for, and they don't generally have great cooling.

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@JordanMillward_1 and @Smurf.   Just wanted to say thanks.  Couple years ago you suggested a laptop for fm and has been great. Thanks for the advice, was just what i wanted and has served me well 

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On 02/03/2020 at 00:12, EdL said:

I don't imagine its much of a worry they will be fast, base clock speed is not a great tool for expressing performance these days, but for minimum specs it is very hard to describe but a latest gen i5 or i7 CPU will be plenty fast enough

Yeah base clock speed means very little, like you say any modern i5 or i7 will run the game.  I use a windows tablet with this processor - Intel Core i5-7Y54, its base speed is 1.2Ghz which in theory based on minimum specs should not run the game but it does, and it does it pretty well with 3 nations fully loaded.  

Heat can be an issue as you suggest but a lot of the time i put it into low power mode and it still runs along nice and smoothly on my commute

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So FM is single threaded!
Would have thought it was and ideal application for multithreading (threads or processes), even if only for running all the 'background' league matches.

All those modern AMD cpu cores/threads wasted.  Find it hard to accept; but if so then ..... pathetic.

Was looking to upgrade my ancient i7 laptop, so guess this is important.

Edited by bringbacklilnux

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1 hour ago, bringbacklilnux said:

So FM is single threaded!
Would have thought it was and ideal application for multithreading (threads or processes), even if only for running all the 'background' league matches.

All those modern AMD cpu cores/threads wasted.  Find it hard to accept; but if so then ..... pathetic.

Was looking to upgrade my ancient i7 laptop, so guess this is important.

It’s not single threaded, it just doesn’t take Full advantage of multiple threads unless you run leagues in full detail

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19 hours ago, bringbacklilnux said:

So FM is single threaded!

No - it's not single threaded but uses single thread for a large portion.

Got this answer from @Neil Brock

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I spoke to someone and this is the jist of what he and I came to:

For how the game uses threads - it will create as many threads for playing matches and shortlisting as you have cores (including hyperthreads).

But the performance you see varies on the setup for example with matches - Quick Matches for instance (so for loaded but non-managed in leagues) it's are so fast anyway it gets to the point where it doesn't make that much more difference having more cores.

If you use detail level to set more stuff to full match you'll start seeing betters gains for more cores, but of course will still be slower than by just not having the league loaded, or having it at a low detail level.

Similar sort of thing with shortlisting the more / leagues players you have loaded the more benefits you can potentially see with more cores, however this is probably more than offset by the general slowdown from having more stuff loading as there's still a large portion of the game which is single threaded

In regards to best processors, as a general guide we tend to suggest using the following comparison site as a good gauge of the performance capabilities - https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmark-List.2436.0.html 

Basic rule of thumb is the higher it is on the list, the better it is. You can edit it to show processors for desktops and also those that are considered 'archived' via the restriction options. 

Hope some of this is of use. 

 

 

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@Smurf can you remember when I posted this? I think we may have made further changes for FM20, but can't remember if I got this info for FM19 or FM20. 

Cheers. 

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Thats still true, the details that have changed this year is for playing matches I improved some of the scheduling to squeeze more performance out of it.

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On 05/03/2020 at 11:23, Neil Brock said:

@Smurf can you remember when I posted this? I think we may have made further changes for FM20, but can't remember if I got this info for FM19 or FM20. 

Cheers. 

I think it was around the same time this post went up.

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On 05/03/2020 at 11:23, Neil Brock said:

@Smurf can you remember when I posted this? I think we may have made further changes for FM20, but can't remember if I got this info for FM19 or FM20. 

Cheers. 

 

On 05/03/2020 at 17:16, EdL said:

Thats still true, the details that have changed this year is for playing matches I improved some of the scheduling to squeeze more performance out of it.

 

On 08/03/2020 at 16:20, Smurf said:

I think it was around the same time this post went up.

Any update on this?

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