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4 hours ago, gianpi91 said:

Thank you. Actually FM would be the only game, but I would like to be in place for at least 4-5 years without having to change PCs. For the rest internet, streaming, office and little else.

I would also be considering making me a desktop, since I use the notebook almost always on my desk. But a desktop gaming for FM alone and other operations is not wasted?

You might be able to get as good a computer for a similar price at least for a desktop - for example: https://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/system/weekly-sales-I

The processor in that PC is roughly equal to the i7 in the second laptop you linked, but has a better graphics card, and would be much easier to upgrade in future if needed. The laptop should cover FM for several years now though, and would have the benefit of being portable.

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I would just like to know how many years this set up will be good for football manager

I5 8600k at 5ghz

16gb ddr4 3200mhz ram

Rtx 2060 6gb 

500gb samsung nvme drive

Thanks!

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4 hours ago, jckc221013jamie said:

I would just like to know how many years this set up will be good for football manager

I5 8600k at 5ghz

16gb ddr4 3200mhz ram

Rtx 2060 6gb 

500gb samsung nvme drive

Thanks!

That'll run it absolutely fine. I'd double check the alleged speed of the processor though, as the normal top speed for the i5-8600k is 4.3Ghz, which means either the store you're looking at is telling fibs, or is highly overclocked, which could reduce reliability and the lifetime of the processor.

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7 hours ago, jckc221013jamie said:

I would just like to know how many years this set up will be good for football manager

I5 8600k at 5ghz

16gb ddr4 3200mhz ram

Rtx 2060 6gb 

500gb samsung nvme drive

Thanks!

1, 2 maybe 10 - it's impossible to know.

But I'd imagine you'd be very good for a long time.

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Can you advise if I buy the FM2020 for MAC that it will work with the hardware and software I have on my MAC Laptop as per attached pictures

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26 minutes ago, Frosty2582 said:

Can you advise if I buy the FM2020 for MAC that it will work with the hardware and software I have on my MAC Laptop as per attached pictures

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Due to it having this i5-4260u processor, it may run it, if the laptop is cool and able to boost its processing speed up to full, but if it does run FM20, it likely won't run it well.

I'd suggest downloading the demo from Steam to try it out first, before buying the game.

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14 hours ago, Frosty2582 said:

Can you advise if I buy the FM2020 for MAC that it will work with the hardware and software I have on my MAC Laptop as per attached pictures

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13 hours ago, JordanMillward_1 said:

Due to it having this i5-4260u processor, it may run it, if the laptop is cool and able to boost its processing speed up to full, but if it does run FM20, it likely won't run it well.

I'd suggest downloading the demo from Steam to try it out first, before buying the game.

Correct on the processor - however it is only a 1.4ghz processor. It would have to be running cool to take advantage of the Turbo Boost technology - which Mac Book Airs are notoriously famous for getting hot which could trottle the processor speed. 

FM on a Mac requires 1.8ghz speeds. 

I can't vouch for any of these - but it would certainly save your lap from being scorched during play https://www.aliexpress.com/popular/macbook-air-cooler.html

 

RAM

I would upgrade to 8gb RAM (the max allowed anyway)

Something like the below - make sure it can fit before buying (there's a link on the page for make sure it fits (edit* which doesn't seem to work for Apple))

https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-CMSX8GX3M2A1600C9-Vengeance-Laptop-Memory/dp/B006EWUOL8?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_2

https://www.ifixit.com/Answers/View/183064/Can+I+upgrade+the+memory+ram+in+a+Mabook+Air+Early+2014

2nd Edit* Hmmm - seemingly the RAM is soldered to the motherboard - so no upgrade option available. Sorry!

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Afternoon chaps.

Going to be off work for a few months and going to get myself a new laptop. Not looking for anything spectacular I’ll only be using it to play FM and browse the web. I generally only load leagues from the top 4 or 5 countries. 
 

Does this look like it could do the job for me? Link

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1 hour ago, Ausie said:

Afternoon chaps.

Going to be off work for a few months and going to get myself a new laptop. Not looking for anything spectacular I’ll only be using it to play FM and browse the web. I generally only load leagues from the top 4 or 5 countries. 
 

Does this look like it could do the job for me? Link

It would work - but the hard drive would fill up fast! Not a lot of space there.

This would be ok too - it's refurbished though - check the fineprint for the deal https://www.box.co.uk/(Grade-B)-Acer-Extensa-15-2540_2725492.html

 

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On 10/01/2020 at 01:17, Welshace said:

Oh they've definitely got it wrong.. i play all of the total war series ( they are my second favourite games after fm, of course) .. and it runs three kningdoms on ultra at around 50fps .. very high at 100fps... bare in mind those requirement checkers aren't reliable in a lot of cases... its always better to check out youtube i find... you can usually find the game being benchmarked on your graphics card there...

Bare in mind that the above has weaker specs than the medion too....

Thanks mate. All really useful. Having a tough time choosing though!! Definitely more knowledgeable on it all now!

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Anyone recommend a good laptop for the below specs please:

- Min 15.6 inch screen (currently got a Dell e5470 and I can’t stand having to scroll for stats etc on FM)

- Max Budget £750 (although obviously cheaper the better)

- Want to be able to run a hefty FM Game (plenty of countries/leagues, large dB) for a long term journeyman career and it be fast enough to not drive me crazy or let my missus think I don’t need to be fully focussed at all times

 

I don’t use 3D (only 2D Classic but sometimes even only commentary).

 

other than that would only be used for day to day internet browsing etc (possibly some rollercoaster tycoon) nothing major
 

 

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10 hours ago, Jackk! said:

Anyone recommend a good laptop for the below specs please:

- Min 15.6 inch screen (currently got a Dell e5470 and I can’t stand having to scroll for stats etc on FM)

- Max Budget £750 (although obviously cheaper the better)

- Want to be able to run a hefty FM Game (plenty of countries/leagues, large dB) for a long term journeyman career and it be fast enough to not drive me crazy or let my missus think I don’t need to be fully focussed at all times

 

I don’t use 3D (only 2D Classic but sometimes even only commentary).

 

other than that would only be used for day to day internet browsing etc (possibly some rollercoaster tycoon) nothing major
 

 

https://www.box.co.uk/30027142-Medion-Erazer-P15601_2756373.html

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5 hours ago, Vribo FC said:

I just bought a Lenovo IdeaCentre T540-15ICB / i5-9400F / 8GB / 512GB M.2 / GTX 1660 / Win 10. It's fantastic when playing FM20. Quick and smooth. Recommended! 

Price around 800 euro. 

Link to swedish specs and webshop:

https://www.netonnet.se/art/dator-surfplatta/stationara-datorer/desktop/lenovo-ideacentre-t540-15icb-90l10045mw/1009212.8943/

IT looks great. 

It is a desktop - so if you don't have a monitor you will need to also factor this cost in. 

 

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https://www.very.co.uk/1600420476.prd

 

what are the thoughts on this one? 
 

Basically looking for something I can use for a medium database and I’m not too fussed about using the 3D engine. I just would like something to run the game that will be quick and reliable, and as cheap as possible! 
 

thanks

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31 minutes ago, Mc2189 said:

https://www.very.co.uk/1600420476.prd

 

what are the thoughts on this one? 
 

Basically looking for something I can use for a medium database and I’m not too fussed about using the 3D engine. I just would like something to run the game that will be quick and reliable, and as cheap as possible! 
 

thanks

If you're looking to get it from Very, I'd look at this one too:

https://www.very.co.uk/medion-erazer-p6605-156inch-ci5-8300h-8gb-1tb-gtx-1050-gaming-laptop/1600423672.prd

It doesn't have an SSD hard drive, only a normal HDD one, so it won't boot as fast, but it has much more storage space, the SSD wouldn't make a huge difference to loading time for FM anyway, and it has a better processor.

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9 minutes ago, JordanMillward_1 said:

If you're looking to get it from Very, I'd look at this one too:

https://www.very.co.uk/medion-erazer-p6605-156inch-ci5-8300h-8gb-1tb-gtx-1050-gaming-laptop/1600423672.prd

It doesn't have an SSD hard drive, only a normal HDD one, so it won't boot as fast, but it has much more storage space, the SSD wouldn't make a huge difference to loading time for FM anyway, and it has a better processor.

 

4 minutes ago, Mc2189 said:

Thank you. Would I get a lot more for my money looking elsewhere?

https://www.box.co.uk/30026175-Medion-Erazer-P6605_2496888.html

 

Same laptop, with SSD and double the HDD , same price...

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Thank you so much for your help. 
 

obviously when it comes to spec and stuff I’m not the best. Would the laptops mentioned be a real significant upgrade on my current one? 
 

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13 minutes ago, Mc2189 said:

Thank you so much for your help. 
 

obviously when it comes to spec and stuff I’m not the best. Would the laptops mentioned be a real significant upgrade on my current one? 
 

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Well your CPU is circa 2013 - that makes it about 7 years old - and probably reaching end of life.

The 8300H processor was made in 2018 so it's taking advantage of things that the 2013 processor can't because they didn't exist before.

The scores for single core are a lot higher (almost double) - and important for FM.

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That’s great, thank you for your help I really appreciate it. 
 

Had to take a few years out from FM with family and other boring stuff. Tried the new version on my laptop......and......well........

 

thanks again!

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17 hours ago, Smurf said:

IT looks great. 

It is a desktop - so if you don't have a monitor you will need to also factor this cost in. 

 

Yeah, true. Bought a generic 24 inch monitor from the same place for around 120 euro. Working great. I could have used my old monitor, but it didn't support 1080 HD. 

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Hi all,

I was just wondering if anyone had a good recommendation for a new laptop which runs FM smoothly?

My budget would be somewhere around €600-700, and the laptop would preferably have a 13''-14'' screen as my current is too big and heavy to carry around all the time(16'' screen).

Also, I purchased FM2020 from the official website before Christmas and installed it on my current laptop.

How would I go about getting it installed on the new laptop? Can I just uninstall off this one and go from there?

Thanks in advance for your assistance :)

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Bit late but budget is about 900 pound. Want a laptop that runs relatively smooth on 2d and with most leagues as playable so will probs need a new processor. Touchscreen and the laptop looking smart would be a plus. 
Will also be using it for uni so will prefer/need to have a nice keyboard so it feels nicer to work.

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11 hours ago, DCBeast said:

Hi all,

I was just wondering if anyone had a good recommendation for a new laptop which runs FM smoothly?

My budget would be somewhere around €600-700, and the laptop would preferably have a 13''-14'' screen as my current is too big and heavy to carry around all the time(16'' screen).

Also, I purchased FM2020 from the official website before Christmas and installed it on my current laptop.

How would I go about getting it installed on the new laptop? Can I just uninstall off this one and go from there?

Thanks in advance for your assistance :)

@DCBeast 13-14 inch laptops are generally more expensive because they make small form parts specifically to get them portabler installing on any computer - login to your steam account and install it. You can install the game on as many computers as you like, but you can only be logged into your steam account on 1 computer at a time.

As an example - this is the cheapest I can see

https://www.box.co.uk/8FH65EAABU-HP-Pavilion-14-ce3501na_2842541.htm

 

9 hours ago, louismarcus said:

Bit late but budget is about 900 pound. Want a laptop that runs relatively smooth on 2d and with most leagues as playable so will probs need a new processor. Touchscreen and the laptop looking smart would be a plus. 
Will also be using it for uni so will prefer/need to have a nice keyboard so it feels nicer to work.

 

@louismarcus You won't get most leagues playable for 900 pound. Well you could, but it would run as slow as a tortoise going uphill on a rainy day in the mud. Adding in touchscreen is an additional cost and would take any in cash what you need to put towards your processor.

I know you only play 2D - but most laptops with an integrated graphics card (built onto the processor) don't come with the high end processors required for what you want.

If we take away the touchscreen - this would be best - https://www.box.co.uk/30027143-Medion-Erazer-P15601_2756374.html

If you wanted touchscreen - this would be best - https://www.box.co.uk/30025976-Medion-Akoya-S4403_2496883.html
But it is considerably worse than the one without the touchscreen linked above this one.

 

IF you want it all - and as close to your dream you're looking at extreme prices:
https://www.box.co.uk/NH.Q4VEK.006-Acer-Predator-Triton-900-PT917-71_2559533.html
https://www.box.co.uk/20QV00BPUK-Lenovo-ThinkPad-X1-Extreme-(2nd-Gen)_2714896.html
https://www.box.co.uk/20QV00BTUK-Lenovo-ThinkPad-X1-Extreme-(2nd-Gen)_2714898.html
 

 

 

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@Smurf

Thanks for the advice. The second one looks good but would it be fast with top 5 leagues playable. What’s the best laptop for under 900 pounds which has a fast processor and gaming graphics card but that is light with a nice keyboard. Maybe too much to ask for but any more suggestions.

what about these?

https://www.box.co.uk/20QN000MUK-Lenovo-ThinkPad-P53_2691801.html

https://www.box.co.uk/4RE79EAABU-HP-Pavilion-15-cx0999na_2485084.html

https://deals.dell.com/en-uk/productdetail/3pvy

 

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https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-l340-15-6-intel-core-i5-gtx-1650-gaming-laptop-128-gb-ssd-10193779-pdt.html

 

how good will this laptop be if i want to run a game with circa 100,000 players and around 10 countries loaded?

 

https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/asus-fx505dy-15-6-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-5-rx-560x-256-gb-ssd-10194549-pdt.html

 

would this one be noticeably better?

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41 minutes ago, ChelseaFan7 said:

The first one has a better processor for FM, but both don't have all that much in terms of hard drive space.

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I've narrowed my list down to the following but now my indecision has kicked in 🤦‍♂️, so looking for some guidance from those in the know please 👍

The last one in the list is a pcspecialist.co.uk custom build coming in at £692. Thanks in advance for your help guys. 

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@koomaroo - It depends on what you plan to play on your laptop, just FM, or other things too. This is because, whilst the bottom one has the best processor for FM, it doesn't have a particularly good graphics card, and so if you were planning on playing other games too, I'd go with the 3rd one as the best all-rounder that'd be good for FM, other games, and have plenty of storage space.

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On 15/01/2020 at 19:20, JordanMillward_1 said:

Very nice catch. Yea

I bought that one a week ago, based on @Welshace's recommendation. Very happy with it :thup:

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9 hours ago, JordanMillward_1 said:

The first one has a better processor for FM, but both don't have all that much in terms of hard drive space.

Would you be able to recommend me a laptop that could run what I'm looking for? I'm not well versed in all of this. Thanks.

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4 hours ago, ChelseaFan7 said:

Would you be able to recommend me a laptop that could run what I'm looking for? I'm not well versed in all of this. Thanks.

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/medion-erazer-p6705-core-i5-8300h-8gb-1tb-hdd-128gb-ssd-15.6-inch-geforce-30026164/version.asp

This has a slightly less powerful processor (but by only a tiny amount, likely not enough for you to even notice), but much more storage space, and for a similar price.

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5 hours ago, ChelseaFan7 said:

Would you be able to recommend me a laptop that could run what I'm looking for? I'm not well versed in all of this. Thanks.

 

18 minutes ago, JordanMillward_1 said:

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/medion-erazer-p6705-core-i5-8300h-8gb-1tb-hdd-128gb-ssd-15.6-inch-geforce-30026164/version.asp

This has a slightly less powerful processor (but by only a tiny amount, likely not enough for you to even notice), but much more storage space, and for a similar price.

This one is savage - and it's a refurb but only Open Box which means it should be like brand new

https://www.box.co.uk/(Open-Box)-Acer-Nitro-5_2862939.html

 

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I have decided to get a PC instead as my laptop somehow manages to run my preferred setup on  4 stars, it even does 3D which I don't use.

My budget is £500 without a monitor.

I only browse the internet, use catch up TV sites or sky go and play football manager so a PC optimized for FM would be great.

I've found this https://www.lenovo.com/gb/en/desktops-and-all-in-ones/legion-desktops/legion-t-series-towers/Lenovo-Legion-T530-AMD/p/90JY002YUK?ef_id=EAIaIQobChMI35TFteGP5wIVzbTtCh3z9gdXEAUYASABEgJfMvD_BwE:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!4309!3!372728316131!!!g!790294946580!&cid=gb:sem|se|google|G-UK-Shopping-PLA-Brand-Gaming|90JY002YUK&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI35TFteGP5wIVzbTtCh3z9gdXEAUYASABEgJfMvD_BwE

It rates good on PC benchmark but is there anything better I could get?

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15 hours ago, JordanMillward_1 said:

@koomaroo - It depends on what you plan to play on your laptop, just FM, or other things too. This is because, whilst the bottom one has the best processor for FM, it doesn't have a particularly good graphics card, and so if you were planning on playing other games too, I'd go with the 3rd one as the best all-rounder that'd be good for FM, other games, and have plenty of storage space.

@JordanMillward_1 thanks for the feedback 👍

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Hey Smurf and gang, I've been playing FM for a few years but I keep dropping away from it because when I click any button or tab, it takes aaaggges to load, like over 10seconds to load my tactics screen, never mind trying to drag players around positions. It's virtually unplayable. I'm assuming this isn't FM's base performance and a laptop upgrade would eliminate that, so I'm looking for a laptop at around max £700. 

Worth noting that I may choose to use this laptop for other games (such as Civ, The Sims, maybe some first person games that are PC exclusive if possible). I've looked at this one:

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-l340-15-6-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5-gtx-1650-128-gb-ssd-10193779-pdt.html

after seeing it suggested a couple times. How would you imagine this running FM20 specifically, but also other games that would be more demanding? I would also use this for some probably light web browsing.

I also saw you suggest this one a few times:

https://www.box.co.uk/30026175-Medion-Erazer-P6605_2496888.html

but (maybe I'm new to this) I don't recognise the brand so I'm hesitant.

Thanks for any and all help!

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3 minutes ago, louismarcus said:

Are these specs any good for 900 pounds. It’s from pc specialist, any thoughts.00E75B61-DFA0-4BF1-87F2-22EA0512A39E.thumb.jpeg.8cc133f94bb602ac19c37f1ddb7dc7a7.jpeg

I asked for help above so do have limited knowledge but from reading a lot in here if your main usage is FM then there is no need at all for a six core processor, apparently single core is all you need so no point getting more than a dual core if FM is your main reason for buying a new PC or laptop.

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That isn't at all true for anything I'd suggest a bare minimum 4 core machine these days

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6 minutes ago, EdL said:

That isn't at all true for anything I'd suggest a bare minimum 4 core machine these days

Really? I actually have less idea at what I'm trying to buy than I thought :thdn:

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Budget - I'd like to pay around £500 but willing to pay up to £750 for a desktop only please.

I like to play FM full version with a large db, English league 2 and above, Ligue 1, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga all as playable and then the SPL, Liga Nos & Eredivisie on view only.

I only use commentary when playing and that's unlikely to change as I've played FM ever since around CM04 and have never got in to the 2D or 3D.

Please help here experts, whatever desktop will run FM the best for my price range please as that will be the thing that takes up most resources for me, thank you so much.

(I've reached my maximum posts per day so will respond tomorrow to anyone who helps me).

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Reached my maximum posts today

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20 hours ago, Smurf said:

 

This one is savage - and it's a refurb but only Open Box which means it should be like brand new

https://www.box.co.uk/(Open-Box)-Acer-Nitro-5_2862939.html

 

 

20 hours ago, JordanMillward_1 said:

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/medion-erazer-p6705-core-i5-8300h-8gb-1tb-hdd-128gb-ssd-15.6-inch-geforce-30026164/version.asp

This has a slightly less powerful processor (but by only a tiny amount, likely not enough for you to even notice), but much more storage space, and for a similar price.

Is there much if a difference between these two lads? If the first one is noticeably better then I'll get that, I'm just a little wary on it being a refurb or am I being unnecessarily cautious here?

 

Thanks for your suggestions btw. 

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14 hours ago, peteraiken said:

Hey Smurf and gang, I've been playing FM for a few years but I keep dropping away from it because when I click any button or tab, it takes aaaggges to load, like over 10seconds to load my tactics screen, never mind trying to drag players around positions. It's virtually unplayable. I'm assuming this isn't FM's base performance and a laptop upgrade would eliminate that, so I'm looking for a laptop at around max £700. 

Worth noting that I may choose to use this laptop for other games (such as Civ, The Sims, maybe some first person games that are PC exclusive if possible). I've looked at this one:

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-l340-15-6-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5-gtx-1650-128-gb-ssd-10193779-pdt.html

after seeing it suggested a couple times. How would you imagine this running FM20 specifically, but also other games that would be more demanding? I would also use this for some probably light web browsing.

I also saw you suggest this one a few times:

https://www.box.co.uk/30026175-Medion-Erazer-P6605_2496888.html

but (maybe I'm new to this) I don't recognise the brand so I'm hesitant.

Thanks for any and all help!

The one in Curry's has the better CPU, but given you are looking to play a few games you may find the small storage restrictive.

Both will run everything you've listed more than adequately, but I would go for the one at Box of the two, purely down to the larger amount of storage.

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15 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

The one in Curry's has the better CPU, but given you are looking to play a few games you may find the small storage restrictive.

Both will run everything you've listed more than adequately, but I would go for the one at Box of the two, purely down to the larger amount of storage.

Thanks for your reply, I was strongly leaning towards the Box one purely because of the storage. I actually went and customised one myself at PCSpecialist.com and have mildly blown my budget on these specs:

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I believe these to be better than both of those I initially posted, but it's about £150 over my budget, but if it would last me longer and cover a wider potential for gaming I'd probably be happy enough. Sorry to latch onto you for this since you just replied, but you seem to be knowledgeable so would you have any thoughts on this?

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46 minutes ago, peteraiken said:

Thanks for your reply, I was strongly leaning towards the Box one purely because of the storage. I actually went and customised one myself at PCSpecialist.com and have mildly blown my budget on these specs:

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I believe these to be better than both of those I initially posted, but it's about £150 over my budget, but if it would last me longer and cover a wider potential for gaming I'd probably be happy enough. Sorry to latch onto you for this since you just replied, but you seem to be knowledgeable so would you have any thoughts on this?

Aye, the PC Specialist one would beat out the two you posted, and should last you the next few versions of the game at minimum, baring any huge changes to the minimum requirements. 

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2 hours ago, ChelseaFan7 said:

 

Is there much if a difference between these two lads? If the first one is noticeably better then I'll get that, I'm just a little wary on it being a refurb or am I being unnecessarily cautious here?

 

Thanks for your suggestions btw. 

Reviews:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Acer-Nitro-5-Core-i5-9300H-GeForce-GTX-1650-Laptop-Review.420481.0.html

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Medion-Erazer-P6705-MD61206.380321.0.html

 

The Acer is better in my opinoin and only an extra 20 quid. 

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