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I play FM 19 on a T430 lenovo. I use 2D which i also prefer and i play the game on low specs with not that much leagues clicked on etc. It works fine and has a nice speed too. The laptop looks solid on this. But i was wondering is this laptop also good enough for FM 20? Thanks for the help. 

Specs: 

i5 3320M 2.60Ghz
8 GB ram

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4 hours ago, Welshace said:

I still see no point in spending 1k on a laptop for fm... it's madness...

 

https://www.box.co.uk/30026124-Medion-Erazer-P6705_2614018.html

 

I have this.. the cpu is top notch for FM and all it needs is another stick of ram (£30) and you're good to go for a long long time..

So @Smurf and @Welshace could I get a decent upgrade to my laptop for less then £1,000 as I am happy to spend less if there aint much difference.

Here are my specs on my current laptop again to give you an idea what I am working with.

Display diagonal: 15.6 inch.

Processor: i7-6500U.

Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950M.

Internal memory: 8 GB DDR4-SDRAM.

Storage: 1256 GB HDD+SSD.

Battery: 4 hrs 44 Wh.

Weight: 2.27 kg.

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Any of those posted above by either of us is a massive upgrade to yours currently...  the one i posted above for £699 has a cpu that is 64% faster in effective performance and 88% faster for quad core performance... .. the other ones posted that are more expensive will be better in theory but FM won't push them that much and imo it isn't worth spending over £800 for a laptop purely for fm

 

(that said, i play AAA games on this laptop on the highest quality so its a great gaming laptop in general

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6 hours ago, Ronaldo Beckham said:

@Smurf what made you recommend this please as it better or at least the same as the one I was thinking of getting ?

Also the one you suggested is out of stock.

Good processor, double the ram, better graphics card - all the things for longevity.

Yeh you can go cheaper if you want and go a processor generation down, and less ram, and lesser graphics card - and spend a lot less. 

It's up to you - I was working within your specified budget and what you can get for your money.

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6 minutes ago, Smurf said:

Good processor, double the ram, better graphics card - all the things for longevity.

Yeh you can go cheaper if you want and go a processor generation down, and less ram, and lesser graphics card - and spend a lot less. 

It's up to you - I was working within your specified budget and what you can get for your money.

I agree with everything Smurf said here apart from the middle line, which could be misconstrued to mean you are downgrading massively.

 

The 9750H's gains over the 8750H are miniscule in real world tests, and ram is £30 .... you're essentially paying almost £400 extra for a graphics card upgrade, which isn't needed for FM when  the cheaper laptop's graphics card is massively overpowered for FM anyway.

 

Either way, it's cool they get all the info and different options :thup:

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36 minutes ago, Welshace said:

I agree with everything Smurf said here apart from the middle line, which could be misconstrued to mean you are downgrading massively.

 

The 9750H's gains over the 8750H are miniscule in real world tests, and ram is £30 .... you're essentially paying almost £400 extra for a graphics card upgrade, which isn't needed for FM when  the cheaper laptop's graphics card is massively overpowered for FM anyway.

 

Either way, it's cool they get all the info and different options :thup:

 

13 minutes ago, Ronaldo Beckham said:

Thank you @Smurf and @Welshace I really appreciate the advice.

It's about £60 to upgrade the RAM.  The 9750H is better thant the 8750H - even if it's marginal - which I don't agree with, I think it's a good bit better.  As you're better of buying a 16gb Pair to ensure latency is ok.

Anyway - the graphics card is better here by a good bit - and if you wanted to play other games than FM then it would be the one to to for. 

This is a factor in increased price. And in fairness, the other one recommended was 999, and this was only a few quid more, which gave a sizeable increase in graphics card.

And I would put the build of the HP up there to be better than that of the Medion - which would be a factor in price as well.

I can't really tell what motherboards are used in each and I'm not going to look them up, but I'd wager HP are better in this than Medion.

Anyway - just my two cents. And if the budget is there, why go cheap - buy cheap buy twice.

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3 minutes ago, Smurf said:

 

It's about £60 to upgrade the RAM.  The 9750H is better thant the 8750H - even if it's marginal - which I don't agree with, I think it's a good bit better.  As you're better of buying a 16gb Pair to ensure latency is ok.

Anyway - the graphics card is better here by a good bit - and if you wanted to play other games than FM then it would be the one to to for. 

This is a factor in increased price. And in fairness, the other one recommended was 999, and this was only a few quid more, which gave a sizeable increase in graphics card.

And I would put the build of the HP up there to be better than that of the Medion - which would be a factor in price as well.

I can't really tell what motherboards are used in each and I'm not going to look them up, but I'd wager HP are better in this than Medion.

Anyway - just my two cents. And if the budget is there, why go cheap - buy cheap buy twice.

Nah, £30 .. the 8gb ram comes on one stick.. matching ram is £30 right now to double it, but i take the rest of your points on board

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Just now, Welshace said:

Nah, £30 .. the 8gb ram comes on one stick.. matching ram is £30 right now to double it, but i take the rest of your points on board

I think paying extra can give a bit of a nicer build - but if it's just for FM it's hard to justify the money. Yeh, the cheaper model will be fine. 

Actually should have priced up a PC Specialist or Overclockers in that price bracket - get a much better build. 

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I aint getting it till Saturday so feel free to send me links to suggestions as I keep going back and forth now, thank you both for your help but I think I am more confused then I was before lol.

 

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1 minute ago, Ronaldo Beckham said:

I aint getting it till Saturday so feel free to send me links to suggestions as I keep going back and forth now, thank you both for your help but I think I am more confused then I was before lol.

 

Haha don't be confused.. it's just two different ways of going about it... 

If you want the very best you can get for the budget, don't go along with something like i was suggesting, there are much better options out there such as what Smurf was suggesting..

Or if you want to spend less but still upgrade over what you have, there are plenty of options for that too...

 

If you give us a bit more info about your needs and your budget, we can get closer to an option that fits

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Yeah so I just want a decent upgrade to what I have now, I want a laptop to last me at least 3 years or more without too many performance issues.

Price range well I am happy to pay £1000 for the right laptop but as you have said if I can get something nearly as good and way better then my current laptop as cheaply as possible then that would be awesome as it gives me more money to spend on other things that I fancy, I want to get a cooling pad as well and maybe a laptop bag etc.

I just want a decent laptop to play FM on, basically just an upgrade to what I have now.

Any advice or laptop suggestions are much appreciated.

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2 minutes ago, Ronaldo Beckham said:

Yeah so I just want a decent upgrade to what I have now, I want a laptop to last me at least 3 years or more without too many performance issues.

Price range well I am happy to pay £1000 for the right laptop but as you have said if I can get something nearly as good and way better then my current laptop as cheaply as possible then that would be awesome as it gives me more money to spend on other things that I fancy, I want to get a cooling pad as well and maybe a laptop bag etc.

I just want a decent laptop to play FM on, basically just an upgrade to what I have now.

Any advice or laptop suggestions are much appreciated.

What do you consider a decent performance in game? how big a database? how fast is fast enough for you?

 

I guess the question is.. what's wrong with your current one at the moment?

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The reason I spent over £1300 is because I always try and buy something that will last me at least 5 years. My current desktop: i7 3770 - 16gb RAM (recently upgraded from 8) has lasted me almost 7 years, I would imagine my new one: i9 9900k - 16gb ram will last me just as long as that. 

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5 minutes ago, Gee_Simpson said:

The reason I spent over £1300 is because I always try and buy something that will last me at least 5 years. My current desktop: i7 3770 - 16gb RAM (recently upgraded from 8) has lasted me almost 7 years, I would imagine my new one: i9 9900k - 16gb ram will last me just as long as that. 

And your current laptop? whats wrong with that?

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7 minutes ago, Welshace said:

What do you consider a decent performance in game? how big a database? how fast is fast enough for you?

 

I guess the question is.. what's wrong with your current one at the moment?

The main reason why I want a new one is wear and tear really, I have had it for aboug 3-4 years and also the laptop I use that is my media centre that I have connected to my tv is really old now so I want to use my current laptop as my laptop connected to my TV and then get a new laptop to play FM.

When it comes to FM it depends on who I want to manage and what player database I need, for example if I want to do a youth only challenge then I don't need a big database but if I want to do a save where I unearth hidden gems then I need a bigger database.

I just want the option to have an in depth FM game for player database, leagues etc but also at a decent speed.

I hope that makes sense in what I put lol.

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2 minutes ago, Ronaldo Beckham said:

The main reason why I want a new one is wear and tear really, I have had it for aboug 3-4 years and also the laptop I use that is my media centre that I have connected to my tv is really old now so I want to use my current laptop as my laptop connected to my TV and then get a new laptop to play FM.

When it comes to FM it depends on who I want to manage and what player database I need, for example if I want to do a youth only challenge then I don't need a big database but if I want to do a save where I unearth hidden gems then I need a bigger database.

I just want the option to have an in depth FM game for player database, leagues etc but also at a decent speed.

I hope that makes sense in what I put lol.

Yep defintely... sounds to me like you don't really need to push the boat out massively to meet your needs then.. as I said, the one i'm using currently is a massive improvement to your current one and i would have thought would suit your needs fine.... at that sort of price point you can get a whole load of options too.. might be worth doing as smurf suggested and going away from medion for better build quality and less sound?   i've got work to do now but will happily come back with some suggestions tomorrow :)

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26 minutes ago, Welshace said:

And your current laptop? whats wrong with that?

It's a desktop, and is starting to slow down quite a bit. The GPU in it is an old Nvidia GT 640 lol which has a FM graphics rating of 1 star, just in general it is starting to slow down, not just in FM. I've also read on here that loading thousands of players without adding the leagues saturates the market and makes it unbalanced. So if I want a lot of players in my game I load the league as playable which has a much bigger impact than just loading players from nations without the league. If someone from SI tells me otherwise then I will change my stance.

Also @roykela told me a few months ago that his upgrade from a 3570k to a 9700k was a massive difference in real life performance so that's one of the reasons I decided to go for it (again), yes, again as the last time I bought all the parts then sent them back! Well the ones that weren't past the 14 days return window which I misjudged (I thought everywhere had 30 days returns but obviously not!). I then had to sell the i9 9900k, RAM, SSD etc on ebay and I made around an £80 loss for nothing :lol::rolleyes:

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 I just got this laptop for FM20 

The CPU and GPU look great for the price but not seen it mentioned much. 

 

Is there something wrong with it or have people just missed this offer for £600?

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-l340-15-6-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5-gtx-1650-128-gb-ssd-10193779-pdt.html

 

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2 hours ago, Gee_Simpson said:

It's a desktop, and is starting to slow down quite a bit. The GPU in it is an old Nvidia GT 640 lol which has a FM graphics rating of 1 star, just in general it is starting to slow down, not just in FM. I've also read on here that loading thousands of players without adding the leagues saturates the market and makes it unbalanced. So if I want a lot of players in my game I load the league as playable which has a much bigger impact than just loading players from nations without the league. If someone from SI tells me otherwise then I will change my stance.

Also @roykela told me a few months ago that his upgrade from a 3570k to a 9700k was a massive difference in real life performance so that's one of the reasons I decided to go for it (again), yes, again as the last time I bought all the parts then sent them back! Well the ones that weren't past the 14 days return window which I misjudged (I thought everywhere had 30 days returns but obviously not!). I then had to sell the i9 9900k, RAM, SSD etc on ebay and I made around an £80 loss for nothing :lol::rolleyes:

Still making downpayments on it :D
I don't regret it for a second. Still flying here 
I think i was around year 2060 or something, with all leagues loaded and 380k players, and i was still amazed how quick it was.
Was happy with before the upgrade but the difference was very noticable after the upgrade.
The processing in FM20 seems to be even quicker. Could just be a placebo effect but it certainly feels quicker.

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2 hours ago, Ineffect said:

 I just got this laptop for FM20 

The CPU and GPU look great for the price but not seen it mentioned much. 

 

Is there something wrong with it or have people just missed this offer for £600?

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-l340-15-6-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5-gtx-1650-128-gb-ssd-10193779-pdt.html

 

I was looking at a similar one for the same price from Argos but it comes with 1050 rather than 1650 graphics and an extra 1TB https://www.argos.co.uk/product/3039061  . I was pretty close to buying it until I gave this thread a quick read and checked some setups on https://www.pcgamebenchmark.com/

12 hours ago, Welshace said:

I still see no point in spending 1k on a laptop for fm... it's madness...

 

https://www.box.co.uk/30026124-Medion-Erazer-P6705_2614018.html

 

I have this.. the cpu is top notch for FM and all it needs is another stick of ram (£30) and you're good to go for a long long time..

@Welshace What kind of setup can you run on this laptop? Over the last few FM's I tend to run larger databases, around150k players with as many leagues as possible. With graphics I tend to play on classic 2D but I assume this could handle the 3D if you're able to run AAA games to a good standard on this laptop.

I'm looking for something for work as well as FM so I'd also considered the ASUS TUF FX505 and the Acer Nitro 5

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9306767

https://www.box.co.uk/Acer-Nitro-5_2557789.html

 

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8 hours ago, roykela said:

Still making downpayments on it :D
I don't regret it for a second. Still flying here 
I think i was around year 2060 or something, with all leagues loaded and 380k players, and i was still amazed how quick it was.
Was happy with before the upgrade but the difference was very noticable after the upgrade.
The processing in FM20 seems to be even quicker. Could just be a placebo effect but it certainly feels quicker.

Lol, nice one :D

10 hours ago, Gee_Simpson said:

I've also read on here that loading thousands of players without adding the leagues saturates the market and makes it unbalanced. So if I want a lot of players in my game I load the league as playable which has a much bigger impact than just loading players from nations without the league. If someone from SI tells me otherwise then I will change my stance.

Does anyone have any knowledge about this?

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7 hours ago, matt_forest said:

I was looking at a similar one for the same price from Argos but it comes with 1050 rather than 1650 graphics and an extra 1TB https://www.argos.co.uk/product/3039061  . I was pretty close to buying it until I gave this thread a quick read and checked some setups on https://www.pcgamebenchmark.com/

@Welshace

 

Absolutely, that gtx 1650 for the same price as the 1050 laptop is a steal IMO.

 

I mean not the best but £600 it's worth it. Seen similar specs going for 850 

May be a little low on storage

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Hello, I’m buying a new pc to play football manager 20 on And I need a bit of help, below is the system details of the pc can someone please tell me if the game will work on it, Thanks 

Hard drive:500gb

Ram:4gb

intel celeron 2.2ghz processor

windows 10(64 bit)

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3 hours ago, Gee_Simpson said:

Lol, nice one :D

Does anyone have any knowledge about this?

A small amount of leagues and a lot of players can indeed make it unbalanced.
It will certainly be harder to sell players. As the clubs have a much bigger pool of players to bring in.
So a balance between leagues and amount of players is highly recommendable.
What a good balance is i wouldn't know, unfortunately.

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12 hours ago, matt_forest said:

I was looking at a similar one for the same price from Argos but it comes with 1050 rather than 1650 graphics and an extra 1TB https://www.argos.co.uk/product/3039061  . I was pretty close to buying it until I gave this thread a quick read and checked some setups on https://www.pcgamebenchmark.com/

@Welshace What kind of setup can you run on this laptop? Over the last few FM's I tend to run larger databases, around150k players with as many leagues as possible. With graphics I tend to play on classic 2D but I assume this could handle the 3D if you're able to run AAA games to a good standard on this laptop.

I'm looking for something for work as well as FM so I'd also considered the ASUS TUF FX505 and the Acer Nitro 5

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9306767

https://www.box.co.uk/Acer-Nitro-5_2557789.html

 

 

There's no denying the 1650 is better than the 1050 and the 1050 ti that comes in the laptop I linked.... but you do get a significantly better cpu in mine  for the same price so its a matter of what you want really...  for FM the one i linked will be better no doubt, but it depends if you're happy going with medion over an acer or asus I guess...

 

The one i use is currently running  a 180k player database with 14 leagues on full detail and maybe half a dozen more on view only.. i'm in my 3rd season and havent experienced any slow down at all, graphics wise i run fm on full detail 3d with no stuttering or issues at all..

 

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5 hours ago, Harry Ryan said:

Hello, I’m buying a new pc to play football manager 20 on And I need a bit of help, below is the system details of the pc can someone please tell me if the game will work on it, Thanks 

Hard drive:500gb

Ram:4gb

intel celeron 2.2ghz processor

windows 10(64 bit)

Steer well clear of that.  Although the clock speed is technically sufficient, those Celeron processors are not very good and you will likely have a a frustratingly slow game, plus it will be terrible for the 3D match engine.  Let me know your budget, your preferred setup for the game (as in countries loaded, database size, 3D or 2D) and whether you're looking for a laptop or desktop and I'll try to find an appropriate suggestion for you.

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On 03/12/2019 at 16:33, f.zaarour said:

I play FM 19 on a T430 lenovo. I use 2D which i also prefer and i play the game on low specs with not that much leagues clicked on etc. It works fine and has a nice speed too. The laptop looks solid on this. But i was wondering is this laptop also good enough for FM 20? Thanks for the help. 

Specs: 

i5 3320M 2.60Ghz
8 GB ram

Anyone...?

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5 minutes ago, f.zaarour said:

Anyone...?

You should expect a similar performance on FM20 as you get on FM19.  So, if it works for FM19, it should be fine for FM20 as well.

But, download the demo and give it a try.

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15 hours ago, roykela said:

A small amount of leagues and a lot of players can indeed make it unbalanced.
It will certainly be harder to sell players. As the clubs have a much bigger pool of players to bring in.
So a balance between leagues and amount of players is highly recommendable.
What a good balance is i wouldn't know, unfortunately.

Thanks. It would be good if someone from SI could clear this up. 

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12 hours ago, kevhamster said:

You should expect a similar performance on FM20 as you get on FM19.  So, if it works for FM19, it should be fine for FM20 as well.

But, download the demo and give it a try.

Thanks. Yeah it was oke on the demo. just if i use 2D and i think if i use not so much leagues etc. i hope it would be oke. We'll see. 

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23 hours ago, roykela said:

A small amount of leagues and a lot of players can indeed make it unbalanced.
It will certainly be harder to sell players. As the clubs have a much bigger pool of players to bring in.
So a balance between leagues and amount of players is highly recommendable.
What a good balance is i wouldn't know, unfortunately.

 

8 hours ago, Gee_Simpson said:

Thanks. It would be good if someone from SI could clear this up. 

I'm not from SI - but it's true and I remember having this discussion before with a member from SI.

Think about it:

5 leagues and massive database - you'd have players in limbo because squads are full and they don't sign anyone - so there would a lot more free transfers out there.

Bit of a waste of a massive database if you only need 5000 players to play 5 leauges (5*20teams = 100 *50 players = 5000 players) if you have a database of 50,000 players, where do the other 45,000 players go?

 

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@Welshace I am buying the laptop you got, just a question about RAM though, what specific RAM would I need to get to boost it from 8 to 16 if I wanted to do that.

Also can you recommend anywhere that do decent cooling pads?

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50 minutes ago, Ronaldo Beckham said:

@Welshace I am buying the laptop you got, just a question about RAM though, what specific RAM would I need to get to boost it from 8 to 16 if I wanted to do that.

Also can you recommend anywhere that do decent cooling pads?

Just bump it up to 16gb when buying - not sure where you're buying from but that is all you need to do.

In regards to cooling pads - I've bought 3 in my lifetime - the first one I bought was about £10 and it's the one I use all the time now.

At some point I needed another cooling pad as I had 2 laptops - so bought a fancier one for about £50 - and it was terrible. Then I bought another one for about the same again - it was terrible. 

Long story short, dumped the old laptop, moved the £10 cooling pad to the new laptop and still use it to this day.

Moral of the story is - you don't have to spend loads of money on it. 

I can't find the one I have right now but if I do find it I will let you know.

 

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58 minutes ago, Smurf said:

Just bump it up to 16gb when buying - not sure where you're buying from but that is all you need to do.

In regards to cooling pads - I've bought 3 in my lifetime - the first one I bought was about £10 and it's the one I use all the time now.

At some point I needed another cooling pad as I had 2 laptops - so bought a fancier one for about £50 - and it was terrible. Then I bought another one for about the same again - it was terrible. 

Long story short, dumped the old laptop, moved the £10 cooling pad to the new laptop and still use it to this day.

Moral of the story is - you don't have to spend loads of money on it. 

I can't find the one I have right now but if I do find it I will let you know.

 

Thanks @Smurf I already ordered the laptop now as I didn't see the option for 16gb RAM, I bought it from box.co.uk, I did ask them on Live Chat what DDR4 RAM I needed but they said they couldn't answer that and I would have to speak to Medion.

This is the laptop I bought Smurf https://www.box.co.uk/30026124-Medion-Erazer-P6705_2614018.html 

Are you able to tell me what RAM I need to buy, can you post a link please so I can order it, I know how to put the RAM in but failing that my mate is a computer technician and he would do it for me.

Also going back to cooling pads, I saw this one that looks decent, what do you think ?

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing-accessories/computer-accessories/laptop-and-monitor-stands/allsop-06484-laptop-cooling-stand-01064385-pdt.html?intcmpid=display~RR

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49 minutes ago, Ronaldo Beckham said:

Thanks @Smurf I already ordered the laptop now as I didn't see the option for 16gb RAM, I bought it from box.co.uk, I did ask them on Live Chat what DDR4 RAM I needed but they said they couldn't answer that and I would have to speak to Medion.

This is the laptop I bought Smurf https://www.box.co.uk/30026124-Medion-Erazer-P6705_2614018.html 

Are you able to tell me what RAM I need to buy, can you post a link please so I can order it, I know how to put the RAM in but failing that my mate is a computer technician and he would do it for me.

Also going back to cooling pads, I saw this one that looks decent, what do you think ?

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing-accessories/computer-accessories/laptop-and-monitor-stands/allsop-06484-laptop-cooling-stand-01064385-pdt.html?intcmpid=display~RR

https://www.mrmemory.co.uk/memory-ram-upgrades/medion/notebook/erazer-p6705#!ddr4-pc4-19200-2400mhz-260-pin-sodimm

The medion looks like it has it's fan on the right hand side - so I'd be going for a cooler with a fan specifically in this location - that's where I fell down before, I had 3 fans in the centre and the fan was at the back of the computer.

If there's a fan on the right hand side it should be good to go.

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I use havit cooling pads, they are decent quality... from amazon usually, as they are cheap.

 

~This one with the medion actually https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NNMB3KS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

 

And smurf has covered everything about Ram.. i get mine straight from Crucial, but only because I have a returning business discount deal with them.. as long as you get the right spec'd ram, you're good to go ( smurf has linked the correct one above )

 

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3 minutes ago, Welshace said:

I use havit cooling pads, they are decent quality... from amazon usually, as they are cheap.

 

~This one with the medion actually https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NNMB3KS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

 

And smurf has covered everything about Ram.. i get mine straight from Crucial, but only because I have a returning business discount deal with them.. as long as you get the right spec'd ram, you're good to go ( smurf has linked the correct one above )

 

Yeh you can get the RAM anywhere, Crucial, Kingston etc. 

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2 hours ago, Smurf said:

https://www.mrmemory.co.uk/memory-ram-upgrades/medion/notebook/erazer-p6705#!ddr4-pc4-19200-2400mhz-260-pin-sodimm

The medion looks like it has it's fan on the right hand side - so I'd be going for a cooler with a fan specifically in this location - that's where I fell down before, I had 3 fans in the centre and the fan was at the back of the computer.

If there's a fan on the right hand side it should be good to go.

Ok cool cheers for the help there @Smurf

1 hour ago, Welshace said:

I use havit cooling pads, they are decent quality... from amazon usually, as they are cheap.

 

~This one with the medion actually https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NNMB3KS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

 

And smurf has covered everything about Ram.. i get mine straight from Crucial, but only because I have a returning business discount deal with them.. as long as you get the right spec'd ram, you're good to go ( smurf has linked the correct one above )

 

Thank you for the recommendation @Welshace

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On 04/12/2019 at 13:09, Welshace said:

 

There's no denying the 1650 is better than the 1050 and the 1050 ti that comes in the laptop I linked.... but you do get a significantly better cpu in mine  for the same price so its a matter of what you want really...  for FM the one i linked will be better no doubt, but it depends if you're happy going with medion over an acer or asus I guess...

 

The one i use is currently running  a 180k player database with 14 leagues on full detail and maybe half a dozen more on view only.. i'm in my 3rd season and havent experienced any slow down at all, graphics wise i run fm on full detail 3d with no stuttering or issues at all..

 

Thanks for the advice. I'll likely go with the Medion but I've got a couple of weeks before I'll be buying so may keep my eye out for any sales or incase I might be able to up my budget a little (fingers crossed for a decent christmas bonus)

Saying that though this one did catch my eye

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/hp-15-dp0003na-core-i7-8750h-8gb-1tb-hdd-128gb-ssd-geforce-gtx-1060-windo-5mn30ea/version.asp

I did the benchmarks on it and it came out at 94% where the others were around 75-80%. Same i7 processor so I'm assuming the 1060 is better than both the 1050Ti and 1650 graphics cards. Doesn't look as pretty as the newer HP Pavilion 15s though

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1 hour ago, tbh said:

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/acer-aspire-5-a515-43-15-6-amd-ryzen-3-laptop-256-gb-ssd-silver-10198867-pdt.html - would this suffice? Not interested in 3D matches, only one or two countries loaded with a large database?

I wouldn't ---- and-----v

On 04/12/2019 at 11:04, roykela said:

A small amount of leagues and a lot of players can indeed make it unbalanced.
It will certainly be harder to sell players. As the clubs have a much bigger pool of players to bring in.
So a balance between leagues and amount of players is highly recommendable.
What a good balance is i wouldn't know, unfortunately.

On 05/12/2019 at 02:27, Gee_Simpson said:

Thanks. It would be good if someone from SI could clear this up. 

On 05/12/2019 at 10:33, Smurf said:

I'm not from SI - but it's true and I remember having this discussion before with a member from SI.

Think about it:

5 leagues and massive database - you'd have players in limbo because squads are full and they don't sign anyone - so there would a lot more free transfers out there.

Bit of a waste of a massive database if you only need 5000 players to play 5 leauges (5*20teams = 100 *50 players = 5000 players) if you have a database of 50,000 players, where do the other 45,000 players go?

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11 hours ago, Tilling said:

It's mid range - decent, not brilliant and not crap.

Should be fine.

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1 hour ago, Smurf said:

It's mid range - decent, not brilliant and not crap.

Should be fine.

 

Cheers. Would you have any recommendations for anything better at a similar price point? (+£50) It hasn't actually been shipped yet so I could still cancel it for a full refund and go for something else.

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48 minutes ago, Tilling said:

 

Cheers. Would you have any recommendations for anything better at a similar price point? (+£50) It hasn't actually been shipped yet so I could still cancel it for a full refund and go for something else.

£700

https://www.box.co.uk/Acer-Nitro-5_2557789.html

https://www.box.co.uk/Lenovo-Ideapad-Gaming-L340-15IRH_2834990.html

£650

https://www.box.co.uk/HP-Pavilion-15-cx0999na_2485084.html

£600

https://www.box.co.uk/Medion-Erazer-P6605_2496888.html

 

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