New Laptop/PC Advice -Please Read the Opening Post

[Kieran Plyth]

1 minute ago, kevhamster said:

I wouldn't recommend that, even for a fairly basic setup. 

That's not a good processor at all by current standards and will likely be very slow. 

Plus, with only 64GB storage you'll likely find yourself running short on disk space quite quickly. 

Cheers bud, what should I be looking for then as I've got absolutely no clue what I'm looking for? I've just been looking for various cheap laptops.

[kevhamster]

4 minutes ago, Kieran Plyth said:

Cheers bud, what should I be looking for then as I've got absolutely no clue what I'm looking for? I've just been looking for various cheap laptops.

What's your budget? 

And do you want to play in 3D?

Edited November 25, 2019 by kevhamster

[Kieran Plyth]

2 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

What's your budget? 

Around £250

Mate I've not played the game in 3 years so I'm easy I just fancy getting back into it.

Edited November 25, 2019 by Kieran Plyth

[kevhamster]

7 minutes ago, Kieran Plyth said:

Around £250

Mate I've not played the game in 3 years so I'm easy I just fancy getting back into it.

At that sort of budget, you're only really going to get something halfway decent by getting a refurb model most likely. 

This one won't be amazingly quick but should be able to handle the game at an acceptable speed and should probably be able to play 3D at medium settings (you may need to tweak some to low possibly but the game is pretty good at figuring out what your computer can handle. 

https://www.laptopstation.co.uk/product/laptops/e725016gb-3/

I've used these guys myself and their 12 month warranty on their refurb machines is legitimate. 

[Kieran Plyth]

1 minute ago, kevhamster said:

At that sort of budget, you're only really going to get something halfway decent by getting a refurb model most likely. 

This one won't be amazingly quick but should be able to handle the game at an acceptable speed and should probably be able to play 3D at medium settings (you may need to tweak some to low possibly but the game is pretty good at figuring out what your computer can handle. 

https://www.laptopstation.co.uk/product/laptops/e725016gb-3/

I've used these guys myself and their 12 month warranty on their refurb machines is legitimate. 

Nice one mate cheers

[LeedsFM20]

Would either of these be any good for fm20? 

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/3114168

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-s130-14igm-14-intel-celeron-laptop-64-gb-emmc-grey-10185212-pdt.html

[kevhamster]

7 minutes ago, LeedsFM20 said:

Would either of these be any good for fm20? 

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/3114168

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-s130-14igm-14-intel-celeron-laptop-64-gb-emmc-grey-10185212-pdt.html

Realistically, no. 

[Ole1995]

Hi all, looking for a machine that can load quite a fair few leagues.  At least 20+ leagues and a database of 100-150k+ players. Enjoy hovering over the many leagues simulated or journeyman/scouting/lower tier management. Will download player faces+ and a lower league databases possibly also. Portability isn’t an issue, so I’m relatively flexible with either laptop or desktop. Although as a previous laptop user, I am used to playing FM in various locations of the house 

1 https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/msi-gf75-thin-9sc-051uk-core-i7-9750h-16gb-512gb-ssd-17.3-inch-fhd-geforce-9s7-17f212-431/version.asp
 i7 9750H [4.5ghz turbo clock speed],
 [16GB RAM 2666Mhz].
 GeForce GTX 1650 4GB
I’ve read that notebooks can struggle getting to that max of 4.5ghz clock speed due to fans/cooling ect.. Although on 1-2 cores instead of all 6, it can get close enough?

2  https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/form-view/cosmosVIII-15/15-6-Cosmos-VIII/1/?gclid=CjwKCAiAlO7uBRANEiwA_vXQ-yJUg3VtylRsDRicCbQY6OS1sll8VR5tTpMV8JNnCGqMpIiqFQOc9BoCxWIQAvD_BwE 
i7 9750H
16GB RAM 2666Mhz
Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 3GB 

3 https://www.amazon.co.uk/CyberpowerPC-Sniper-i5-2060-Gaming-Spec-Delta/dp/B0187L1U8O/ref=sr_1_30?m=AOJUIW65VI5BZ&marketplaceID=A1F83G8C2ARO7P&qid=1574718498&s=merchant-items&sr=1-30&th=1
Pre-built desktop with i5 9600KF processor and 16gb RAM looks at a pretty good price in comparison. Is there something that might shy you away such as a poor motherboard or something I'd know very little about?

Should the laptops be capable of running a very large database of 120k or more players and as many leagues as possible? If I’m being too optimistic with the laptops I may sway the way of the desktop computer linked. The i3 desktop Smurf recently configured a few posts back also presents an option.
 Is there a laptop of the 2 you would choose solely for FM and browsing/word+excel processing? With custom built one being 100£ cheaper in mind.
@Smurf @kevhamster @JordanMillward_1
Have to comment on the great job being done on this thread and some of the other FM benchmarking threads. I came into this knowing absolutely zilch! 
Sorry for the long post, appreciate any feedback or if there is anything better you are able to find, thank you!

[Gee_Simpson]

If you don't necessarily need a laptop, always always go for the desktop option as you get more for your money. Laptops are overpriced. Obviously if you need a laptop for it's portability then fair enough but if it's just for use in the house then a desktop is the better option. 

[Gee_Simpson]

3 hours ago, Gee_Simpson said:

Can anyone tell me what kind of GPU is needed to run the graphics settings at maximum and also gives a 5 star rating? 

Looking at 3 cards for my new build:

https://www.ebuyer.com/910791-sapphire-radeon-rx-570-pulse-4gb-graphics-card-11266-67-20g?mkwid=s_dm&pcrid=51482416379&pkw=&pmt=&gclid=CjwKCAiAlO7uBRANEiwA_vXQ-1HDDWaiuMbL0W-NtcOBhFzi0zC6p_lef7rifAcwNbzqcjWEKE6G3BoC1rQQAvD_BwE £119. 99

https://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/Palit+NVIDIA+GeForce+GTX+1660+SUPER+6GB+StormX+Turing+Graphics+Card+?productId=72026 £197.99

https://www.amazon.co.uk/PowerColor-56-8GBHBM2-2D2HD-OC-Graphics-Black/dp/B07BRCZG3M/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=Vega+56&qid=1574713959&sr=8-3 £248.99

I'm looking to future proof the GPU for a good minimum of 5 years just like I have done with buying the i9 9900k CPU. Not sure if going for the Vega 56 is a bit much though, although it may stop me from having to upgrade the GPU to keep up with future FM's. 

Can anyone help me with this? Especially in regards to the 5 star rating. My current GT 640 is now rated 1 star when in FM19 it was 3 stars. Not sure which GPU to go for here. 

[kevhamster]

Just now, Gee_Simpson said:

If you don't necessarily need a laptop, always always go for the desktop option as you get more for your money. Laptops are overpriced. Obviously if you need a laptop for it's portability then fair enough but if it's just for use in the house then a desktop is the better option. 

Agreed. Most people, on here at least, seem to prefer the idea of a laptop though! 

Desktop is better though, if you have space and no need for portability. Not only from value, but also due to the ease of upgrading components which is usually not an option with a laptop. 

[kevhamster]

3 minutes ago, Gee_Simpson said:

Can anyone help me with this? Especially in regards to the 5 star rating. My current GT 640 is now rated 1 star when in FM19 it was 3 stars. Not sure which GPU to go for here. 

It's really hard to say without knowing how much FM's 3D engine will change over 5 years. 

Presently, the cheapest one should be plenty.  Will that be the same even next year? Nobody knows. 

@Smurf is more knowledgeable on dedicated graphics cards than I am, but even he would be guessing when it comes to future system requirements. 

[kevhamster]

34 minutes ago, Ole1995 said:

Hi all, looking for a machine that can load quite a fair few leagues.  At least 20+ leagues and a database of 100-150k+ players. Enjoy hovering over the many leagues simulated or journeyman/scouting/lower tier management. Will download player faces+ and a lower league databases possibly also. Portability isn’t an issue, so I’m relatively flexible with either laptop or desktop. Although as a previous laptop user, I am used to playing FM in various locations of the house 

1 https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/msi-gf75-thin-9sc-051uk-core-i7-9750h-16gb-512gb-ssd-17.3-inch-fhd-geforce-9s7-17f212-431/version.asp
 i7 9750H [4.5ghz turbo clock speed],
 [16GB RAM 2666Mhz].
 GeForce GTX 1650 4GB
I’ve read that notebooks can struggle getting to that max of 4.5ghz clock speed due to fans/cooling ect.. Although on 1-2 cores instead of all 6, it can get close enough?

2  https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/form-view/cosmosVIII-15/15-6-Cosmos-VIII/1/?gclid=CjwKCAiAlO7uBRANEiwA_vXQ-yJUg3VtylRsDRicCbQY6OS1sll8VR5tTpMV8JNnCGqMpIiqFQOc9BoCxWIQAvD_BwE 
i7 9750H
16GB RAM 2666Mhz
Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 3GB 

3 https://www.amazon.co.uk/CyberpowerPC-Sniper-i5-2060-Gaming-Spec-Delta/dp/B0187L1U8O/ref=sr_1_30?m=AOJUIW65VI5BZ&marketplaceID=A1F83G8C2ARO7P&qid=1574718498&s=merchant-items&sr=1-30&th=1
Pre-built desktop with i5 9600KF processor and 16gb RAM looks at a pretty good price in comparison. Is there something that might shy you away such as a poor motherboard or something I'd know very little about?

Should the laptops be capable of running a very large database of 120k or more players and as many leagues as possible? If I’m being too optimistic with the laptops I may sway the way of the desktop computer linked. The i3 desktop Smurf recently configured a few posts back also presents an option.
 Is there a laptop of the 2 you would choose solely for FM and browsing/word+excel processing? With custom built one being 100£ cheaper in mind.
@Smurf @kevhamster @JordanMillward_1
Have to comment on the great job being done on this thread and some of the other FM benchmarking threads. I came into this knowing absolutely zilch! 
Sorry for the long post, appreciate any feedback or if there is anything better you are able to find, thank you!

If you're going to go for a laptop, they seem to be almost identical in terms of specs, except the graphics card in which option 1 is the stronger of the two, albeit not by much. Either is more than adequate for FM20. 

The desktop PC has a CPU which looks quite similar to the laptops, but still a little bit better.  If you don't need the portable nature of a laptop, then a desktop is generally more sensible to recommend. 

That said, look carefully at the reviews of the Amazon seller themselves. The thing to remember, when you're buying a custom built PC, the warranty is only as good as the seller (if indeed there is one). You may want to look around for stores which specialise in custom building PC's to make sure you're getting a warranty which can be trusted.  I'd personally be a little dubious of Amazon sellers, especially as the one experience I've had of something similar, the seller vanished from Amazon before the warranty they supposedly offered was supposed to expire, meaning I was stuck when a component failed.  Emails undeliverable etc! 

Edited November 26, 2019 by kevhamster

[Gee_Simpson]

1 hour ago, kevhamster said:

Agreed. Most people, on here at least, seem to prefer the idea of a laptop though! 

Yeah, it surprises me!

1 hour ago, kevhamster said:

It's really hard to say without knowing how much FM's 3D engine will change over 5 years. 

Presently, the cheapest one should be plenty.  Will that be the same even next year? Nobody knows. 

@Smurf is more knowledgeable on dedicated graphics cards than I am, but even he would be guessing when it comes to future system requirements. 

It's a tough one.

If the 3D engine improved significantly over the next few years then the dearest option would probably be the best choice to stay on top of it but the cheapest option could easily be good enough for a few years also.

I just think with the jump from my card being 3 stars on FM19 to 1 star on FM20 suggests in a few years time the 3D engine will be improved by quite a bit.

I've went for the pricey CPU in the i9 9900k so it lasts me 5 years minimum, maybe I should do the same with regards to the GPU also, but it is a risk.

Edited November 26, 2019 by Gee_Simpson

[Smurf]

5 hours ago, Gee_Simpson said:

Can anyone help me with this? Especially in regards to the 5 star rating. My current GT 640 is now rated 1 star when in FM19 it was 3 stars. Not sure which GPU to go for here. 

 

5 hours ago, kevhamster said:

It's really hard to say without knowing how much FM's 3D engine will change over 5 years. 

Presently, the cheapest one should be plenty.  Will that be the same even next year? Nobody knows. 

@Smurf is more knowledgeable on dedicated graphics cards than I am, but even he would be guessing when it comes to future system requirements. 

In the game star rating is often incorrect - I wouldn't pay attention to it - to be honest it's hard to know why it's part of the game at all. 

In saying that - it's a pretty old graphics card but it's within minimum specs required so should be fine.

[EXCLUSIVEEE]

7 hours ago, Gee_Simpson said:

Can anyone help me with this? Especially in regards to the 5 star rating. My current GT 640 is now rated 1 star when in FM19 it was 3 stars. Not sure which GPU to go for here. 

What monitor you use and what is your budget for GPU?

Edited November 26, 2019 by EXCLUSIVEEE

[billyydaviss]

Can somebody help me please, will this laptop work well with FM?

https://www.lenovo.com/gb/en/laptops/legion-laptops/legion-y-series/Lenovo-Legion-Y530-15ICH/p/88GMY501020?clickid=WO0U1eS3KxyJWfewUx0Mo3E1Ukn3QVWSxS2ZXM0&Program=3766&pid=221109&acid=ww:affiliate:74clty&cid=uk:affiliate:rk5fv4

 

It will be the £699 model :)

[lufc_4_eva]

Hi All, 

Looking at getting a new all in one PC budget around £400-£500ish

i have seen these 2 online in the Black Friday sales would these be okay to play with 6-8 leagues loaded & a large database 

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/desktop-pcs/desktop-pcs/hp-24-f0014na-23-8-intel-core-i5-all-in-one-pc-2-tb-hdd-white-10182220-pdt.html

https://ao.com/product/dqbbhek004-acer-desktop-black-69335-253.aspx
 

or if anyone else has any decent suggestions 

thanks 

[kevhamster]

1 hour ago, billyydaviss said:

Can somebody help me please, will this laptop work well with FM?

https://www.lenovo.com/gb/en/laptops/legion-laptops/legion-y-series/Lenovo-Legion-Y530-15ICH/p/88GMY501020?clickid=WO0U1eS3KxyJWfewUx0Mo3E1Ukn3QVWSxS2ZXM0&Program=3766&pid=221109&acid=ww:affiliate:74clty&cid=uk:affiliate:rk5fv4

 

It will be the £699 model

In short, yes.

Very good CPU, dedicated graphics card which will enable you to play 3D at high settings.

[kevhamster]

44 minutes ago, lufc_4_eva said:

Hi All, 

Looking at getting a new all in one PC budget around £400-£500ish

i have seen these 2 online in the Black Friday sales would these be okay to play with 6-8 leagues loaded & a large database 

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/desktop-pcs/desktop-pcs/hp-24-f0014na-23-8-intel-core-i5-all-in-one-pc-2-tb-hdd-white-10182220-pdt.html

https://ao.com/product/dqbbhek004-acer-desktop-black-69335-253.aspx
 

or if anyone else has any decent suggestions 

thanks 

Go for the Currys one.  The CPU is considerably better, bigger screen, more storage.

The whole package is miles better than the one at AO.

Edited November 26, 2019 by kevhamster

[Gee_Simpson]

7 hours ago, Smurf said:

 

In the game star rating is often incorrect - I wouldn't pay attention to it - to be honest it's hard to know why it's part of the game at all. 

In saying that - it's a pretty old graphics card but it's within minimum specs required so should be fine.

In regards to the 3 options for my first build though? Would the RX 570 be more than enough for now or should I go all out for the Vega 56? 

[Gee_Simpson]

5 hours ago, EXCLUSIVEEE said:

What monitor you use and what is your budget for GPU?

I use quite an old 23 inch LG IPS 1080p monitor, it's fine for FM: https://www.lg.com/africa/monitors/lg-23MP65HQ-P

As I say, I don't play any other PC game tbh, so the Vega or even the 1660 may be way too much? Money isn't really an issue here, but I do want it to run FM at max for the next few years. 

Edited November 26, 2019 by Gee_Simpson

[billyydaviss]

1 hour ago, kevhamster said:

In short, yes.

Very good CPU, dedicated graphics card which will enable you to play 3D at high settings.

Cheers Kev!

[Gee_Simpson]

I may as well just go for this considering it's only FM I play on PC. 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B071NS93PH/ref=cm_cr_arp_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8

Only £5 more than the RX 570, seems a great deal for £125! The Vega 56 and GTX 1660 Super are pointless when it's solely for FM. If I need to upgrade the RX 580 in a few years that will be fine, especially with the RX 580 only being £125 now.

That's the good thing about desktops, they are much easier to upgrade than a laptop. Honestly I would advise anyone looking in here, if you only play FM in the house like me, go for a desktop as it's much better value. Apparently they are easy to build yourself which I will find out next week! My first time building one, it's cheaper to build it yourself also. 

Edited November 26, 2019 by Gee_Simpson

[Ole1995]

19 hours ago, kevhamster said:

If you're going to go for a laptop, they seem to be almost identical in terms of specs, except the graphics card in which option 1 is the stronger of the two, albeit not by much. Either is more than adequate for FM20. 

The desktop PC has a CPU which looks quite similar to the laptops, but still a little bit better.  If you don't need the portable nature of a laptop, then a desktop is generally more sensible to recommend. 

That said, look carefully at the reviews of the Amazon seller themselves. The thing to remember, when you're buying a custom built PC, the warranty is only as good as the seller (if indeed there is one). You may want to look around for stores which specialise in custom building PC's to make sure you're getting a warranty which can be trusted.  I'd personally be a little dubious of Amazon sellers, especially as the one experience I've had of something similar, the seller vanished from Amazon before the warranty they supposedly offered was supposed to expire, meaning I was stuck when a component failed.  Emails undeliverable etc! 

Thanks a lot for your help. Yeah definitely, I'm sceptical about the Amazon one too, going to give that one a miss for sure. I've been messing around with some of the builds on PC specialist ect. Seems you can build a PC with the i5 9600k processor and keep it within £800-900 if you compromise slightly on the graphics card. Reputable seller too.
As for the laptops, when you say adequate for FM, do you mean roughly for the database/ leagues I mentioned? A bit specific sorry, I'm just not sure how much the larger database and many leagues may affect the performance of the machine? Thanks again. Ole

[Ole1995]

19 hours ago, Gee_Simpson said:

If you don't necessarily need a laptop, always always go for the desktop option as you get more for your money. Laptops are overpriced. Obviously if you need a laptop for it's portability then fair enough but if it's just for use in the house then a desktop is the better option. 

I know what you mean, hopefully going to arrive with the decision this week (I hope) . Think i'm just used to the portability of the laptop. Sundays lounged on the sofa, football on the TV, FM on the laptop, ect. . But yeah the portability is not so much a necessity as I don't need the machine so much away from home or anything. 

[glosoli]

Wing back or winger runs towards the byline and blasts the ball into the side netting, It's not surprising to me anymore. The frustrating thing is, he applauds himself while running back to his position. I would fine his sorry non-talented feet if I could...

[Gee_Simpson]

1 hour ago, glosoli said:

Wing back or winger runs towards the byline and blasts the ball into the side netting, It's not surprising to me anymore. The frustrating thing is, he applauds himself while running back to his position. I would fine his sorry non-talented feet if I could...

Wrong thread mate 

[kevhamster]

3 hours ago, Ole1995 said:

Thanks a lot for your help. Yeah definitely, I'm sceptical about the Amazon one too, going to give that one a miss for sure. I've been messing around with some of the builds on PC specialist ect. Seems you can build a PC with the i5 9600k processor and keep it within £800-900 if you compromise slightly on the graphics card. Reputable seller too.
As for the laptops, when you say adequate for FM, do you mean roughly for the database/ leagues I mentioned? A bit specific sorry, I'm just not sure how much the larger database and many leagues may affect the performance of the machine? Thanks again. Ole

A large database like the one you've said you want is going to have an impact regardless of what sort of system you have, and I think may be above the recommended for FM in any case.

That said, the CPU's in those laptops are pretty close to the top of the range, so you're going to struggle to find much better currently.

And I've heard good things about PC Specialist.  Seems they know their stuff, which is just as well given their name lol.

Edited November 26, 2019 by kevhamster

[footballguy5566]

Hi everyone 

I' looking for a laptop to run FM 2020 and are unsure as to how quick these three would run it if at all, please help want to buy in time for Christmas. 

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9160745?clickOrigin=searchbar:home:sku:9160745

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/8794215?clickOrigin=searchbar:productdetails:sku:8794215

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/1165298?clickOrigin=searchbar:productdetails:sku:1165298

[Leedsfan11]

On 25/11/2019 at 12:16, kevhamster said:

The Currys one is the better of the two.

Currys one unavailable would either of these be suitable and which is better 

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/3068984

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9396461

 

Edited November 26, 2019 by Leedsfan11

[kevhamster]

1 minute ago, Leedsfan11 said:

Currys one unavailable would either of these be suitable and which is better 

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/3068984

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9396461

They are identical in terms of technical specs, however I'd recommend the Lenovo on the basis that it seems to have one extra USB port and what would appear to be a better sound system.

It's also £50 cheaper, so winner.

And it will handle FM well enough.  I have the next spec down CPU on my own laptop and it handles the game well and even plays 3D at high settings on the integrated graphics.

[JordanMilly]

11 minutes ago, Leedsfan11 said:

Currys one unavailable would either of these be suitable and which is better 

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/3068984

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9396461

 

First one, as it's cheaper but otherwise the same in terms of hardware, but has another USB port and better sound.

EDIT: Damn, @kevhamster beat me to it, but yea, what he said.

Edited November 26, 2019 by JordanMillward_1

[kevhamster]

1 minute ago, JordanMillward_1 said:

First one, for the slightly better processor.

The processors are identical.

[Leedsfan11]

15 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

They are identical in terms of technical specs, however I'd recommend the Lenovo on the basis that it seems to have one extra USB port and what would appear to be a better sound system.

It's also £50 cheaper, so winner.

And it will handle FM well enough.  I have the next spec down CPU on my own laptop and it handles the game well and even plays 3D at high settings on the integrated graphics.

Thanks

Noticed that the other one has burst of 3.6  on processor whereas first one doesn't. Does this make much difference?  Does the first one meet minimum requirements for processor speed

 

 

[kevhamster]

4 minutes ago, Leedsfan11 said:

Thanks

Noticed that the other one has burst of 3.6  on processor whereas first one doesn't. Does this make much difference?  Does the first one meet minimum requirements for processor speed

 

 

They both have the same processor, just that for whatever the burst speed hasn't been listed on the Argos page for the other one.

My laptop has the Ryzen 5 2500U, which is an older version and therefore not quite as strong and it plays FM just fine.

Technically, the base clock speed is lower than FM recommends, but due to the way these newer processors work (specifically the AMD Ryzens and the Intel Core I3, i5, i7 etc), it's a lot more complicated than just looking at the clock speed.  But, I assure you this CPU will handle a decent sized FM database.

Edited November 27, 2019 by kevhamster

[glosoli]

8 hours ago, Gee_Simpson said:

Wrong thread mate 

Damn, thanks for the heads up

[kevhamster]

9 hours ago, footballguy5566 said:

Hi everyone 

I' looking for a laptop to run FM 2020 and are unsure as to how quick these three would run it if at all, please help want to buy in time for Christmas. 

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9160745?clickOrigin=searchbar:home:sku:9160745

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/8794215?clickOrigin=searchbar:productdetails:sku:8794215

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/1165298?clickOrigin=searchbar:productdetails:sku:1165298

None of those. This one instead 

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/3068984?rec=PDP[8794215]:bottomSlider:P1:OHAT:alternative:3068984:cz2BI6sc96IOUGyeegwU

EDIT: Should expand.  Those are all Ryzen 3's, and two of them only have 4GB of RAM.  This one here is a Ryzen 5, which is decent.  Plus it has 8GB of RAM.  Also, as I've found myself, the integrated graphics on these CPUs handle the 3D graphics on FM at high settings.

Edited November 27, 2019 by kevhamster

[EXCLUSIVEEE]

12 hours ago, Gee_Simpson said:

I may as well just go for this considering it's only FM I play on PC. 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B071NS93PH/ref=cm_cr_arp_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8

Only £5 more than the RX 570, seems a great deal for £125! The Vega 56 and GTX 1660 Super are pointless when it's solely for FM. If I need to upgrade the RX 580 in a few years that will be fine, especially with the RX 580 only being £125 now.

 

I wouldnt go for 4GB GPU. 

PALIT GTX1660 DUAL 6GB or POWERCOLOR RX 580 AXRX580 8GBD5-DHDM

[kevhamster]

55 minutes ago, EXCLUSIVEEE said:

I wouldnt go for 4GB GPU. 

PALIT GTX1660 DUAL 6GB or POWERCOLOR RX 580 AXRX580 8GBD5-DHDM

If he's only playing FM, at this point in time a 6GB GPU is kinda overkill.  My laptop plays the 3D engine smoothly at high settings using the integrated graphics.

If he was playing other games as well, then definitely.  But as he's only playing FM............

[footballguy5566]

5 hours ago, kevhamster said:

None of those. This one instead 

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/3068984?rec=PDP[8794215]:bottomSlider:P1:OHAT:alternative:3068984:cz2BI6sc96IOUGyeegwU

EDIT: Should expand.  Those are all Ryzen 3's, and two of them only have 4GB of RAM.  This one here is a Ryzen 5, which is decent.  Plus it has 8GB of RAM.  Also, as I've found myself, the integrated graphics on these CPUs handle the 3D graphics on FM at high settings.

Thanks v much i'll have a look at it!

[Mark H]

Not sure the best place to post this, but you seem a savvy lot.

I've bought a new laptop (thanks @kevhamster for the advice) but doesn't come with a disc drive. All my previous laptops have come with a disc drive.

I've also got every box from CM1 (amiga) onwards to FM19. 

Question is, if I buy Fm20 in the box, does it come with a steam code, so I can keep the box, and the disc never has to leave the box?

[kevhamster]

 

3 minutes ago, Mark H said:

Not sure the best place to post this, but you seem a savvy lot.

I've bought a new laptop (thanks @kevhamster for the advice) but doesn't come with a disc drive. All my previous laptops have come with a disc drive.

I've also got every box from CM1 (amiga) onwards to FM19. 

Question is, if I buy Fm20 in the box, does it come with a steam code, so I can keep the box, and the disc never has to leave the box?

I believe so, yes.  It has to be activated through Steam, so it seems daft to think that it may not.  I'm 99% sure that it does, but perhaps best to ask SI via email or Twitter, as then you would get a response to confirm for sure.

That said, you can buy USB optical disc drives for around £10 if you're stuck.  

Edited November 27, 2019 by kevhamster

[Mark H]

Just now, kevhamster said:

 

I believe so, yes.  It has to be activated through Steam, so it seems daft to think that it may not.  I'm 99% sure that it does, but perhaps best to ask SI via email or Twitter, as then you would get a response.

That said, you can buy USB optical disc drives for around £10 if you're stuck.  

Thanks mate, It was confirmed in the FM19 FAQs but doesn't say (As far as I can see) in the FM20 FAQs. 

I'll drop them a tweet. Cheers again!!!

[kevhamster]

7 minutes ago, footballguy5566 said:

Thanks v much i'll have a look at it!

Nice one.

I can advocate for these Ryzen 5's from personal experience.

The Intel i5 etc based laptops are still going to be stronger in terms of speed of processing, but the Ryzen 5's are very good and the integrated graphics are excellent.  I mean, you're not going to be playing Red Dead 2 on them, but they're fine for FM.  I've also found them to be able to handle Euro Truck Simulator 2 at quite high settings at 1080p, so damned good for integrated.

[footballguy5566]

2 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

Nice one.

I can advocate for these Ryzen 5's from personal experience.

The Intel i5 etc based laptops are still going to be stronger in terms of speed of processing, but the Ryzen 5's are very good and the integrated graphics are excellent.  I mean, you're not going to be playing Red Dead 2 on them, but they're fine for FM.  I've also found them to be able to handle Euro Truck Simulator 2 at quite high settings at 1080p, so damned good for integrated.

Cheers, how many leagues did you run on the ryzen 5 and did it run pretty quick?

 

[kevhamster]

Just now, footballguy5566 said:

Cheers, how many leagues did you run on the ryzen 5 and did it run pretty quick?

 

On FM19, I ran the following nations with all available leagues loaded and a large player database:

Belgium, England, France, Germany, Holland, Italy, Scotland and Spain.

Quick is relative, as I have no idea what your expectations are.  However, I found the processing speed to be quick enough for my taste, and it was certainly quicker than the laptop I had been using before (which had an Intel 5th Gen i3 CPU).

I've not tested it fully with FM20 yet, as my original laptop with this spec developed a fault (not related to the CPU), and the last month has been a bit of back and forth with the store until I got a replacement machine under warranty which I literally only received yesterday.  But based on what I have seen so far, I have no reason to think it will be any different in FM20.

[footballguy5566]

49 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

On FM19, I ran the following nations with all available leagues loaded and a large player database:

Belgium, England, France, Germany, Holland, Italy, Scotland and Spain.

Quick is relative, as I have no idea what your expectations are.  However, I found the processing speed to be quick enough for my taste, and it was certainly quicker than the laptop I had been using before (which had an Intel 5th Gen i3 CPU).

I've not tested it fully with FM20 yet, as my original laptop with this spec developed a fault (not related to the CPU), and the last month has been a bit of back and forth with the store until I got a replacement machine under warranty which I literally only received yesterday.  But based on what I have seen so far, I have no reason to think it will be any different in FM20.

Just a quick question it says it has Windows 10s and  ive seen two comments saying it cannot run as you can only run apps from the windows app store?

 

[kevhamster]

2 minutes ago, footballguy5566 said:

Just a quick question it says it has Windows 10s and  ive seen two comments saying it cannot run as you can only run apps from the windows app store?

 

Nope, that's not correct.  Windows 10 runs pretty much anything that's current.

[Gee_Simpson]

5 hours ago, EXCLUSIVEEE said:

I wouldnt go for 4GB GPU. 

PALIT GTX1660 DUAL 6GB or POWERCOLOR RX 580 AXRX580 8GBD5-DHDM

Thanks for the suggestion but I agree with @kevhamster

4 hours ago, kevhamster said:

If he's only playing FM, at this point in time a 6GB GPU is kinda overkill.  My laptop plays the 3D engine smoothly at high settings using the integrated graphics.

If he was playing other games as well, then definitely.  But as he's only playing FM............

I will definitely only be playing FM as I do all my other gaming on my PS4 Pro and then the PS5.

Part of me thinks I should go for a 1660 or the Vega 56 to be on the safe side but the RX 580 4GB is probably already plenty for FM and another few versions after those?