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@Smurf I’ve come to the conclusion I want an Mac due to course work, editing and being already on the apple eco system so wondering if this MacBook Pro would work on fm20? https://www.johnlewis.com/2019-apple-macbook-pro-13-3-inch-touch-bar-with-touch-id-intel-core-i5-8gb-ram-128gb-ssd/p4259072

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5 hours ago, MerseyReds said:

No mate, you recommended the one below which I appreciate but I also wanted to know if the graphics card below is perfect for the 3D match engine

 

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5 Dedicated Graphics

https://www.laptopoutlet.co.uk/asus-tuf-fx504ge-e4031t-15-6-laptop-intel-core-i5-8300h-2-3-ghz-4-0-ghz-turbo-quad-core-processor-8gb-ram-1tb-hdd-128gb-ssd-full-hd-display-nvidia-gf-gtx-1050ti-4gb-gddr5-dedicated-graphics-windows-10-home.html

Yeh it is fine

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11 minutes ago, zakbrown96 said:

@Smurf I’ve come to the conclusion I want an Mac due to course work, editing and being already on the apple eco system so wondering if this MacBook Pro would work on fm20? https://www.johnlewis.com/2019-apple-macbook-pro-13-3-inch-touch-bar-with-touch-id-intel-core-i5-8gb-ram-128gb-ssd/p4259072

Yeh they work just fine but very expensive for what is under the hood. You can get a better Windows laptop for half the price.

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On 06/10/2019 at 15:13, Smurf said:

Yeh they work just fine but very expensive for what is under the hood. You can get a better Windows laptop for half the price.

Any recommendations? Ideally like it to be about 13inch screen and portable with ease, budget around £600 to  £1000

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I’m looking for a decent Laptop to run FM20 as my laptop has died, it will jus mostly be used for FM I’d like it to have decent graphics and be quick I usually run about 12 leagues with about 90k players and download player faces/badges etc I play in 3D and my last laptop struggled a bit towards its death 

my budget will be between roughly £500/£650 

 

i know its a question thats been answered hundreds ov times on the thread sorry

 

Thanks

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hello 

I have a budget of 500£. I play with lots of leagues loaded and big database. Is there a laptop that will be able to run the game smoothly on that price? 

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I’m buying FM 2020 after years of not buying the game. I’m also buying a new Mac Mini. I don’t understand if the graphics card is good enough, anyone know?

 

The only info I find on apple is:
  • Intel UHD Graphics 630

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On 06/10/2019 at 18:31, stainyg said:

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/acer-nitro-5-an515-52-15-6-intel-core-i5-gtx-1050-gaming-laptop-256-gb-ssd-10194184-pdt.html

Thinking about getting this, usually play 3 or 4 leagues on large database and in 3D. Not bothered about graphics being amazing just want them decent. Will this be ok?

That's fine.

20 hours ago, Jamizzle said:

I’m looking for a decent Laptop to run FM20 as my laptop has died, it will jus mostly be used for FM I’d like it to have decent graphics and be quick I usually run about 12 leagues with about 90k players and download player faces/badges etc I play in 3D and my last laptop struggled a bit towards its death 

my budget will be between roughly £500/£650 

i know its a question thats been answered hundreds ov times on the thread sorry

Thanks

https://www.box.co.uk/FX504GD-E41275T-ASUS-TUF-FX504GD-E41275T_2458989.html

Note - it may not do all the leagues/database size to the speed you require - recommend reducing leagues/players until desired speed of progress is ok.

17 hours ago, putamadre said:

hello 

I have a budget of 500£. I play with lots of leagues loaded and big database. Is there a laptop that will be able to run the game smoothly on that price? 

Probably  best you can do on that budget https://www.box.co.uk/81HN00S6UK-Lenovo-V130_2560659.html

1 hour ago, BigBoy10 said:

Hi @Smurf 

looking for a quick bit of advice, will this laptop run FM 20 well? With space to download facepacks etc. 
 

http://www.cheaplaptopcompany.co.uk/laptops/hp-745-g2-ssd?sort=p.price&order=ASC

Thanks.

Nope.

1 hour ago, Stevmon said:

I’m buying FM 2020 after years of not buying the game. I’m also buying a new Mac Mini. I don’t understand if the graphics card is good enough, anyone know?

 

The only info I find on apple is:
  • Intel UHD Graphics 630

Why a Mac Mini? Terribly expensive for what is under the hood.

The UHD Graphics 630 is integrated in the Intel processor - it can run the 3D engine but you'll have to adjust the 3D match settings detail level to something you are happy with.

Again - why Mac Mini? You can buy a PC for half the price that is twice as good.

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I think the answer is no, but anyone have any idea if FM 2020 will run on the new Surface Pro X running an ARM version of Windows 10? If not that then maybe the PC version of FM Touch 2020? 

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6 hours ago, Stevmon said:

I’m buying FM 2020 after years of not buying the game. I’m also buying a new Mac Mini. I don’t understand if the graphics card is good enough, anyone know?

 

The only info I find on apple is:
  • Intel UHD Graphics 630

Should note that I intend to play FM with the 2D match engine.

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5 hours ago, Smurf said:

That's fine.

https://www.box.co.uk/FX504GD-E41275T-ASUS-TUF-FX504GD-E41275T_2458989.html

Note - it may not do all the leagues/database size to the speed you require - recommend reducing leagues/players until desired speed of progress is ok.

Probably  best you can do on that budget https://www.box.co.uk/81HN00S6UK-Lenovo-V130_2560659.html

Nope.

Why a Mac Mini? Terribly expensive for what is under the hood.

The UHD Graphics 630 is integrated in the Intel processor - it can run the 3D engine but you'll have to adjust the 3D match settings detail level to something you are happy with.

Again - why Mac Mini? You can buy a PC for half the price that is twice as good.

Prefer Mac and have the money :) plus other reasons. Only need to know that the graphics cars won’t get me into trouble (even though I’ll probably end up with the 2D engine).

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hey guys

i will be building a new pc , mostly for Strategy games and of course Football Manager

im in a dilemma on what CPU i need , im going for either a Intel i9 9900k or the new Ryzen 3950x

which one suited to my needs on FM

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@Smurf this has been really helpful. I’m not ready to purchase quite yet, but hopefully putting the guide to practice. How would you evaluate the below options.

https://www.newegg.com/p/1TS-000D-036Z7?Item=9SIADVH8J94162

https://www.newegg.com/p/1TS-001A-00X76?Item=9SIAA0SABN7554

https://www.newegg.com/p/1TS-0016-00HZ2?Item=9SIAEYA9PD4314

 

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On 29/09/2019 at 12:00, stato_bennett said:

@Smurf

I'm looking at getting a Window Surface or something of that ilk (portable and touchscreen) for both work but also to play FM20 and beyond...

I tend to play with a large database with probably about 10 leagues normally although I do use Dan's English Lower League database sometimes.

Ideally I'd like to use 3D graphics as well but that's not set in stone. I have about £1000 roughly at the minute as a budget but that budget can be flexible

Having looked a bit around I've found these two and was wondering if either of these would be good for FM20

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-envy-x360-15-6-amd-ryzen-5-2-in-1-256-gb-ssd-black-10193319-pdt.html

Or

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/acer-spin-5-sp513-53n-13-3-intel-core-i7-2-in-1-laptop-512-ssd-silver-10193937-pdt.html

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13 hours ago, Stevmon said:

Prefer Mac and have the money :) plus other reasons. Only need to know that the graphics cars won’t get me into trouble (even though I’ll probably end up with the 2D engine).

If you have the money then buy a super laptop - you'd get much bang for your buck.

But if you're set on it it would be fine.

13 hours ago, Staffman said:

hey guys

i will be building a new pc , mostly for Strategy games and of course Football Manager

im in a dilemma on what CPU i need , im going for either a Intel i9 9900k or the new Ryzen 3950x

which one suited to my needs on FM

Either is fine for FM.

12 hours ago, BigBoy10 said:

@Smurf thanks for the reply, what’s the best I can get for £300 maximum.

Cheers.

Nothing. Better off waiting till you have more money.

11 hours ago, s0ni42 said:

@Smurf this has been really helpful. I’m not ready to purchase quite yet, but hopefully putting the guide to practice. How would you evaluate the below options.

https://www.newegg.com/p/1TS-000D-036Z7?Item=9SIADVH8J94162

https://www.newegg.com/p/1TS-001A-00X76?Item=9SIAA0SABN7554

https://www.newegg.com/p/1TS-0016-00HZ2?Item=9SIAEYA9PD4314

 

This one

https://www.newegg.com/p/1TS-000D-036Z7?Item=9SIADVH8J94162

 

9 hours ago, stato_bennett said:

Neither of them - but I will come back to you - just need to get something done here.

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1 hour ago, Smurf said:

Both are very good - but I'd go for the 2nd one as it's a new processor.

 

 

Thank you @Smurf will get it ordered 

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5 minutes ago, stato_bennett said:

My only problem with that one is I need a computer that is touch screen for occasional work that will be done on it

Well you won't find much better so in the price range you're in.

 

 

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On 15/09/2019 at 16:10, Smurf said:

 

4gb won't be enough - please let us know your budget and we can take a look and see if there's anything we can find online.

 

 

Sorry for late reply been busy but what gb is enough at min I’m looking at a Apple Mac is that good enough? 

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6 minutes ago, Breezybaby1 said:

Sorry for late reply been busy but what gb is enough at min I’m looking at a Apple Mac is that good enough? 

Also can u let me know if there’s any cheaper options if possible. Thanks 

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5 minutes ago, Breezybaby1 said:

Ok so I apologise if I’m on the wrong thread before hand. So I’m about to purchase a laptop after a few years of playing football manager touch, however as a student I’m on a budget so I can’t exactly splash out on a expensive laptop. Most of the laptops around my budget range have 4gb ram is this good enough to run football manager or no? I also have no idea about specs and so on with laptops so thanks for all you guys help in advance. 

 

5 minutes ago, Breezybaby1 said:

Sorry for late reply been busy but what gb is enough at min I’m looking at a Apple Mac is that good enough? 

 

On your first post about buying a computer - copied above - you said you were looking for at 4gb RAM laptops as this is all you can afford.

Now you come back and say you can buy an Apple Mac?

Apple Mac start at about £1000 

 

If you spend £1000 on a laptop you'll get a far superior computer for Football Manager.

Of course, if you still want this Apple Mac then go for it.

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Smurf said:

 

 

On your first post about buying a computer - copied above - you said you were looking for at 4gb RAM laptops as this is all you can afford.

Now you come back and say you can buy an Apple Mac?

Apple Mac start at about £1000 

 

If you spend £1000 on a laptop you'll get a far superior computer for Football Manager.

Of course, if you still want this Apple Mac then go for it.

 

 

 

Yeah I’m a student now so I get student finance so I can afford to get loose a little bit lol. So Apple Mac is superior for it? Something I most likely will go for but is there any cheaper option. 

Thanks 

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I currently have a Lenovo G50  and it can't seem to cope with FM at all and is even really slow on FM touch.

Ideally I'd spend around £350-400. I only play one nation but like a large database if possible. I always play text commentary so not worried about graphics. I've been looking at the two below- is the ACER worth the extra money and going beyond my budget?

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-pavilion-14-ce0525sa-14-intel-pentium-gold-laptop-128-gb-ssd-silver-10193349-pdt.html?fbclid=IwAR25Td-iR4PDeZgbTmqFPtUgnlZXIxXxriKj-6cJBw8O85G9xNb0CoScEGo

 

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/acer-aspire-5-a514-52-14-intel-core-i5-laptop-256-gb-ssd-black-10195338-pdt.html?fbclid=IwAR2JkXwIetGqKy17OJ6X31jqILW0iUsusTUvY2k3VN75uGw8afGLt21b5_A

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5 hours ago, Breezybaby1 said:

Yeah I’m a student now so I get student finance so I can afford to get loose a little bit lol. So Apple Mac is superior for it? Something I most likely will go for but is there any cheaper option. 

Thanks 

In no way did I say Apple Mac was superior for it.

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8 hours ago, Smurf said:

Both are very good - but I'd go for the 2nd one as it's a new processor.

 

 

Before I order would I be better off with this one and save few quid? As only be using it for fm but want some future proofing https://www.very.co.uk/hp-pavilion-gaming-15-bc500na-intel-core-i5-8gb-ram-512gb-ssd-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050-3gb-156in-full-hd-touchscreen-laptop-shadow-black/1600401457.prd

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2 hours ago, Smurf said:

In no way did I say Apple Mac was superior for it.

Well one that’s good enough to run it at a cheaper price than the Mac preferably? 

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12 hours ago, zakbrown96 said:

Before I order would I be better off with this one and save few quid? As only be using it for fm but want some future proofing https://www.very.co.uk/hp-pavilion-gaming-15-bc500na-intel-core-i5-8gb-ram-512gb-ssd-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050-3gb-156in-full-hd-touchscreen-laptop-shadow-black/1600401457.prd

Good

11 hours ago, Breezybaby1 said:

Well one that’s good enough to run it at a cheaper price than the Mac preferably? 

This is considerably better  https://www.box.co.uk/G531GU-AL315T-ASUS-ROG-Strix-G531GU-AL315T_2601655.html

A Mac at this price would be entry price point. 

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@Smurf

 

what one one would I say I was about to order this one u recommend

https://www.box.co.uk/FX504GD-E41275T-ASUS-TUF-FX504GD-E41275T_2458989.html

 

but then I saw this and it looks a lot better from  what I can see for an extra £50

https://www.very.co.uk/hp-pavilion-gaming-15-bc500na-intel-core-i5-8gb-ram-512gb-ssd-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050-3gb-156in-full-hd-touchscreen-laptop-shadow-black/1600401457.prd

 

 Thanks

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Hello, looking for a new desktop for FM20. Im not really bothered about good graphics card etc just want it to be able to load A LOT of leagues / players and still run quickly

Budget is up to £1,000 but could maybe go a bit higher if needed

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

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28 minutes ago, Jamizzle said:

@Smurf

 

what one one would I say I was about to order this one u recommend

https://www.box.co.uk/FX504GD-E41275T-ASUS-TUF-FX504GD-E41275T_2458989.html

 

but then I saw this and it looks a lot better from  what I can see for an extra £50

https://www.very.co.uk/hp-pavilion-gaming-15-bc500na-intel-core-i5-8gb-ram-512gb-ssd-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050-3gb-156in-full-hd-touchscreen-laptop-shadow-black/1600401457.prd

 

 Thanks

A lot better how?

Both 15inch screens
Both 8gb RAM
Both GTX 1050 graphics card

Only slight upgrade is in processor and it's not even worth mentioning - you're paying an extra £50 for a small boost that is barely noticeable.

In saying that - if you're happy to pay £50 extra then go for it. It's slightly better - so should be ok.

 

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25 minutes ago, Nozzer said:

Hello, looking for a new desktop for FM20. Im not really bothered about good graphics card etc just want it to be able to load A LOT of leagues / players and still run quickly

Budget is up to £1,000 but could maybe go a bit higher if needed

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Case
PCS 6003B BLACK CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i3 Quad Core Processor i3-9350K (4.00GHz) 8MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF Z390-PLUS GAMING: ATX, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2666MHz (4 x 4GB)
Graphics Card
4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 - HDMI
1st Storage Drive
NOT REQUIRED
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W)

 
down_right_arrow.gifGet Ghost Recon: Breakpoint with select SAMSUNG SSDs!

DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 450W VS SERIES™ VS-450 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster Hyper 212X (120mm) Fan CPU Cooler Black Edition
Thermal Paste
COOLER MASTER MASTERGEL MAKER THERMAL COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 12 to 14 working days

Price: £916.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.ie/saved-configurations/intel-z370-pc/uw2TRPX8en/

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5 hours ago, Smurf said:

Case
PCS 6003B BLACK CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i3 Quad Core Processor i3-9350K (4.00GHz) 8MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF Z390-PLUS GAMING: ATX, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2666MHz (4 x 4GB)
Graphics Card
4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 - HDMI
1st Storage Drive
NOT REQUIRED
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W)

 
down_right_arrow.gifGet Ghost Recon: Breakpoint with select SAMSUNG SSDs!

DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 450W VS SERIES™ VS-450 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CoolerMaster Hyper 212X (120mm) Fan CPU Cooler Black Edition
Thermal Paste
COOLER MASTER MASTERGEL MAKER THERMAL COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 12 to 14 working days

Price: £916.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.ie/saved-configurations/intel-z370-pc/uw2TRPX8en/

Add about 100 pound and you can buy PC with Ryzen 3600 (little bit better single core performance and about 70% better multicore) and GTX 1660.

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22 hours ago, RaoulDuke44 said:

Add about 100 pound and you can buy PC with Ryzen 3600 (little bit better single core performance and about 70% better multicore) and GTX 1660.

The ryzen has a slower clock base speed. It has more cores/threads but that has been repeatedly downplayed for FM - as a lot of the game is still handled in the single thread.

Ok FM will and does create as many threads and uses as many cores are as available.

In the single core performance rating

Ryzen 5 3600 2912
i3 9350K 2638    

The difference isn't huge and I'd prefer the base speed over more cores for FM.

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that is the single thread rating though, I'd expect the Ryzen to be faster tbh

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1 hour ago, EdL said:

that is the single thread rating though, I'd expect the Ryzen to be faster tbh

Yeah but once you overclock the i3 it'll blow the Ryzen away.  Single thread rating is what FM likes, the benchmark thread shows that

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9 hours ago, EdL said:

that is the single thread rating though, I'd expect the Ryzen to be faster tbh

I would love to test it but cant. I am only going off raw specs and of course our conversations.

What makes you say that anyway.

8 hours ago, Brother Ben said:

Yeah but once you overclock the i3 it'll blow the Ryzen away.  Single thread rating is what FM likes, the benchmark thread shows that

I agree.

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I had to buy an ultrabook for work, I totally will run FM20, but I don't know if it's gonna be really fast. I play only with 2D visual and set database to medium - custom - with players from Europe and South America, average of 70000 players loaded.

Specs:

i7-8565U Quad-core da 1,8 GHz with Turbo boost (fino a 4,6 GHz)
NVIDIA® GeForce® MX150 2GB GDDR5 VRAM
RAM 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3
SSD 512gb

All i want is some good speed on loading (I usually add logos and cut out faces, should I not? Do they slower the game?)

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@Smurf I’m hoping I’ve found the laptop for me, can you take a quick look at this and let me know what you think please. Everything looks good🤞🏽Someone selling this for bang on £300 so would be perfect! 

https://uk.store.asus.com/asus-k550iu-go075t-15-6-laptop-amd-fx-9830p-3-0-ghz-3-7-ghz-turbo-quad-core-processor-amd-radeon-rx460-4gb-dedicated-graphics-8gb-ram-1tb-hdd-128gb-ssd-windows-10-home-64-bit-90nb0db2-m00980.html

Cheers😁

 

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3 hours ago, Smurf said:

I would love to test it but cant. I am only going off raw specs and of course our conversations.

What makes you say that anyway.

I agree.

Well yeah if you overclock it perhaps, but I wasn't aware we were talking about overclocking, but the Ryzen at stock has a higher single core perf, its not just clock speed the defines single threaded perf.

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It also depends how you play the game if you run more leagues in full detail more cores becomes important, but on default settings it is less so.

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Hello I managed to drop my laptop and was told £200 to repair it so decided to get a new one 

https://www.reevoo.com/p/toshiba-satellite-l50-c-1xm-1

 

that was my previous one and worked fine with 10 leagues and low graphics I’m after something a bit better and wanted to know if this is ok and an upgrade on what I had previously 

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/dell-inspiron-15-3000-15-6-amd-ryzen-5-laptop-256-gb-ssd-silver-10190038-pdt.html

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7 hours ago, EdL said:

Well yeah if you overclock it perhaps, but I wasn't aware we were talking about overclocking, but the Ryzen at stock has a higher single core perf, its not just clock speed the defines single threaded perf.

You can overclock Ryzen too.

7 hours ago, EdL said:

It also depends how you play the game if you run more leagues in full detail more cores becomes important, but on default settings it is less so.

I think most of us run more leagues, in the long run Ryzen is definitely better.

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