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Hey mate. Just been reading through this thread and I have to say your contribution along with others is astounding. Much appreciated. I looked at the following laptops and would like advice on which to opt for that would be good for the next version of football manager. I'm ideally looking for a laptop that can run the 3d match engine very smoothly, run a large database and a couple of countries without running slow. 

Thanks 

 

 

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ASUS TUF FX504GE 15.6" Full HD Gaming Laptop Core i5-8300H, 8GB, 1TB+128GB SSHD

SKU: RFB-FX504GE-E4031T

 

 
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Hello everyone I have done abit of reading on a new laptop as I currently have a i3 5th gen which is obviously going slow now. 

I have a budget of about £600 max. I understand that processors that are underclocked are not good for FM but is this the case with 8th gen i5s for example or just older gens? Would it be worth getting a processor such as the i5-8300h instead? Not sure if the 1.6ghz standard on the U processor would be an issue. 

Dont play on 3d graphics but understand a dedicated graphics card is better, so happy to get one but just a entry level nothing too mad.

i will always get at least 8gb of ram. 

 

Also, does anyone remember getting a laptop last black friday and wether any of the gaming laptops of about £800 reduced by a couple hundred? Thanks any help is apperciated.

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1 hour ago, Domnoble7 said:

Hello everyone I have done abit of reading on a new laptop as I currently have a i3 5th gen which is obviously going slow now. 

I have a budget of about £600 max. I understand that processors that are underclocked are not good for FM but is this the case with 8th gen i5s for example or just older gens? Would it be worth getting a processor such as the i5-8300h instead? Not sure if the 1.6ghz standard on the U processor would be an issue. 

Dont play on 3d graphics but understand a dedicated graphics card is better, so happy to get one but just a entry level nothing too mad.

i will always get at least 8gb of ram. 

 

Also, does anyone remember getting a laptop last black friday and wether any of the gaming laptops of about £800 reduced by a couple hundred? Thanks any help is apperciated.

Could stretch to this. With a i5-9300h processor and a dedicated graphics card and 8gb ram and SSD storage. Think thats good for £650 tbh?

 

https://ao.com/product/6rs54eaabu-hp-laptop-black-69729-251.aspx?&WT.z_PT=Computing&WT.z_AT=Gaming Laptop&WT.z_MT=Search&WT.z_MAT=HP&WT.z_FT=Free Standing&WT.z_PC=6RS54EAABU&WT.srch=1&WT.z_KW=6RS54EAABU&WT.z_DT=m&WT.z_RTM=PLA&ef_id=EAIaIQobChMIrI_P_8CF5QIViZntCh2SMQ2QEAQYASABEgLzPvD_BwE:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!8149!3!284991695031!!!g!612139538616!&&WT.z_CN=CE - Laptop - Brand&WT.z_AG=CE - Laptop - HP&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIrI_P_8CF5QIViZntCh2SMQ2QEAQYASABEgLzPvD_BwE

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On 29/09/2019 at 12:00, stato_bennett said:

@Smurf

I'm looking at getting a Window Surface or something of that ilk (portable and touchscreen) for both work but also to play FM20 and beyond...

I tend to play with a large database with probably about 10 leagues normally although I do use Dan's English Lower League database sometimes.

Ideally I'd like to use 3D graphics as well but that's not set in stone. I have about £1000 roughly at the minute as a budget but that budget can be flexible

I’d also love to know about this as very keen on the base model of the new surface https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/p/surface-laptop-3/8VFGGH1R94TM/34SW?activetab=techspecs wonder if @Smurf can help 

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Are there any decentish laptops around £300 that will run fm 2020? I don't need all the leagues - just the main big ones (England, Germany, France, Italy, Spain) and I'm not worried about it being super quick - just needs to be smooth and not feel laggy in 2d mode

 

I've had laptops in past that have really struggled with the switch in engine from fm18. Thanks! 

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On 30/09/2019 at 18:00, Jimbokav1971 said:

Hi all. I'm looking for some different advice to that normally asked. Im not looking for an ultra quick machine that is going to blast through seasons, but I do want one that will run in 3d.

Im looking for a 1st pc for a 9 year old and need a dedicated graphics card (I think), to run the game in 3d. I'm not overly concerned with speed, just so long as it works, but would like some general advice. 

As it's only for a 9 year old I want it as cheap as possible, but at the same time it needs to be able to run FM20 in 3d, (because I think he's old enough to give FMT a go now).

At the same time I dont know what I need and what I dont need so I want to make sure that what I buy does the job, but at the same time I want it to be cheap because he's only 9!

Suggestions and ideas would be appreciated. I'm looking for a desktop rather than a laptop or something else. That's about it really. Help please. 🤔😁

Budget would really help here  - cheap for me might be expensive for someone else.

As he's 9 he will probably want to play other games - and you will also need to purchase a Monitor.

Case
COOLERMASTER ELITE 130 CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i3 Quad Core Processor i3-9300 (3.70GHz) 8MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® STRIX B360-I GAMING: Mini-ITX, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2666MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060 SUPER - HDMI, DP - VR Ready!

 
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1st Storage Drive
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500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W)

 
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DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 350W VS SERIES™ VS-350 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Noctua NH-L9i Low Profile, Super Quiet CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
COOLER MASTER MASTERGEL MAKER THERMAL COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
GIGABIT LAN PORT + Wi-Fi (Wi-Fi excluded on H310I-PLUS)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 4 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
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United Kingdom - English Language
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Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
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BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Monitor
Samsung LS24D330HSX/EN 24" LED monitor
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3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days

Price: £1,222.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-sff-gaming/zXgZMmHdjV/

 

On 02/10/2019 at 09:06, Paul Antono said:

Dear all,

For 2-3 leagues and medium settings for 3d which option is better?

First is : i5-7200U,8gb,1T HDD,GTX MX150(ACER)
OR
second : Ryzen 5 2500U,8gb,256 SSD,VEGA 8(DELL)

Thanks a lot

In this instance I'd go with the i5 7200 U as it's base processor is 2.5ghz - FM requies 2.2ghz 

The Ryzen does not meet FM minimum specs.

On 03/10/2019 at 00:13, zakbrown96 said:

Anyone know If this laptop is any good on:  Link

getting from very as have an 20% discount code 

Not that one for the same reason as posted above

https://www.box.co.uk/FX504GD-E41275T-ASUS-TUF-FX504GD-E41275T_2458989.html

 

On 03/10/2019 at 18:49, Tanzinho said:

Will this run the game at a reasonable speed. I do like a big database, but it's not necessary, I've been more into british only signings anyway so not much need for players from Belarus...

The main issue i've had this time around on my macbook pro (old thing) is that the 3d engine doesnt work (2D occasionally crashes too) so I've had to instant result and it's been a horrible experience.

laptop will be used for streaming and general typing/browsing too.

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/8245355?&cmpid=GS001&_$ja=tsid:59158|acid:532-198-3455|cid:598756200|agid:24290293370|tid:aud-641224040817:pla-482123448231|crid:86846330570|nw:g|rnd:5786344259965374563|dvc:c|adp:1o5|mt:|loc:9045654&gclid=Cj0KCQjwuNbsBRC-ARIsAAzITuf6898doMRJRpeSIJAuBy4vTeNmo_NPZ0wTKi7GCopLonSnwUy4ICkaAo7BEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

It's a bit under spec for FM but should be ok.

17 hours ago, MerseyReds said:

@Smurf

Hey mate. Just been reading through this thread and I have to say your contribution along with others is astounding. Much appreciated. I looked at the following laptops and would like advice on which to opt for that would be good for the next version of football manager. I'm ideally looking for a laptop that can run the 3d match engine very smoothly, run a large database and a couple of countries without running slow. 

Thanks 

KEY FEATURES

 

KEY FEATURES

 

KEY FEATURES

 
ASUS TUF FX504GE 15.6" Full HD Gaming Laptop Core i5-8300H, 8GB, 1TB+128GB SSHD

SKU: RFB-FX504GE-E4031T

 

 

They're all the same really - go for the last one - it's a tiny bit better.

 

15 hours ago, Domnoble7 said:

Hello everyone I have done abit of reading on a new laptop as I currently have a i3 5th gen which is obviously going slow now. 

I have a budget of about £600 max. I understand that processors that are underclocked are not good for FM but is this the case with 8th gen i5s for example or just older gens? Would it be worth getting a processor such as the i5-8300h instead? Not sure if the 1.6ghz standard on the U processor would be an issue. 

Dont play on 3d graphics but understand a dedicated graphics card is better, so happy to get one but just a entry level nothing too mad.

i will always get at least 8gb of ram. 

 

Also, does anyone remember getting a laptop last black friday and wether any of the gaming laptops of about £800 reduced by a couple hundred? Thanks any help is apperciated.

FM requires 2.2ghz - I'd be only looking at processors with a minimum of 2.2ghz base speed.

 

13 hours ago, Domnoble7 said:

Could stretch to this. With a i5-9300h processor and a dedicated graphics card and 8gb ram and SSD storage. Think thats good for £650 tbh?

 

https://ao.com/product/6rs54eaabu-hp-laptop-black-69729-251.aspx?&WT.z_PT=Computing&WT.z_AT=Gaming Laptop&WT.z_MT=Search&WT.z_MAT=HP&WT.z_FT=Free Standing&WT.z_PC=6RS54EAABU&WT.srch=1&WT.z_KW=6RS54EAABU&WT.z_DT=m&WT.z_RTM=PLA&ef_id=EAIaIQobChMIrI_P_8CF5QIViZntCh2SMQ2QEAQYASABEgLzPvD_BwE:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!8149!3!284991695031!!!g!612139538616!&&WT.z_CN=CE - Laptop - Brand&WT.z_AG=CE - Laptop - HP&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIrI_P_8CF5QIViZntCh2SMQ2QEAQYASABEgLzPvD_BwE

Looks good!

 

8 hours ago, zakbrown96 said:

I’d also love to know about this as very keen on the base model of the new surface https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/p/surface-laptop-3/8VFGGH1R94TM/34SW?activetab=techspecs wonder if @Smurf can help 

There's no information on the specs reallly - I wouldn't bother. 

8 hours ago, Sc0ttzilla said:

Are there any decentish laptops around £300 that will run fm 2020? I don't need all the leagues - just the main big ones (England, Germany, France, Italy, Spain) and I'm not worried about it being super quick - just needs to be smooth and not feel laggy in 2d mode

I've had laptops in past that have really struggled with the switch in engine from fm18. Thanks! 

https://www.box.co.uk/(Open-Box)-Asus-VivoBook-Max-X541UA-GO79_2280140.html

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1 hour ago, Smurf said:

Budget would really help here  - cheap for me might be expensive for someone else.

As he's 9 he will probably want to play other games - and you will also need to purchase a Monitor.

Case
COOLERMASTER ELITE 130 CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i3 Quad Core Processor i3-9300 (3.70GHz) 8MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® STRIX B360-I GAMING: Mini-ITX, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2666MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060 SUPER - HDMI, DP - VR Ready!

 
down_right_arrow.gifGet Call of Duty: Modern Warfare with select NVIDIA GeForce RTX GPUs!

1st Storage Drive
NOT REQUIRED
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W)

 
down_right_arrow.gifGet Ghost Recon: Breakpoint with select SAMSUNG SSDs!

DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 350W VS SERIES™ VS-350 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Noctua NH-L9i Low Profile, Super Quiet CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
COOLER MASTER MASTERGEL MAKER THERMAL COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
GIGABIT LAN PORT + Wi-Fi (Wi-Fi excluded on H310I-PLUS)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 4 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Monitor
Samsung LS24D330HSX/EN 24" LED monitor
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days

Price: £1,222.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-sff-gaming/zXgZMmHdjV/

 

In this instance I'd go with the i5 7200 U as it's base processor is 2.5ghz - FM requies 2.2ghz 

The Ryzen does not meet FM minimum specs.

Not that one for the same reason as posted above

https://www.box.co.uk/FX504GD-E41275T-ASUS-TUF-FX504GD-E41275T_2458989.html

 

It's a bit under spec for FM but should be ok.

They're all the same really - go for the last one - it's a tiny bit better.

 

FM requires 2.2ghz - I'd be only looking at processors with a minimum of 2.2ghz base speed.

 

Looks good!

 

There's no information on the specs reallly - I wouldn't bother. 

https://www.box.co.uk/(Open-Box)-Asus-VivoBook-Max-X541UA-GO79_2280140.html

Thanks Smurf. May I ask what is better between the one you recommended and the one that has a 17.3 inch screen? Also would either be absolutely fine with 3d match engine.

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11 minutes ago, MerseyReds said:

Thanks Smurf. May I ask what is better between the one you recommended and the one that has a 17.3 inch screen? Also would either be absolutely fine with 3d match engine.

I thought I already told you.

It's just a bit better - not really sure and couldn't be bothered looking back to be honest.

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1 hour ago, Smurf said:

Budget would really help here  - cheap for me might be expensive for someone else.

As he's 9 he will probably want to play other games - and you will also need to purchase a Monitor.

Case
COOLERMASTER ELITE 130 CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i3 Quad Core Processor i3-9300 (3.70GHz) 8MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® STRIX B360-I GAMING: Mini-ITX, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2666MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060 SUPER - HDMI, DP - VR Ready!

 
down_right_arrow.gifGet Call of Duty: Modern Warfare with select NVIDIA GeForce RTX GPUs!

1st Storage Drive
NOT REQUIRED
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W)

 
down_right_arrow.gifGet Ghost Recon: Breakpoint with select SAMSUNG SSDs!

DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 350W VS SERIES™ VS-350 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Noctua NH-L9i Low Profile, Super Quiet CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
COOLER MASTER MASTERGEL MAKER THERMAL COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
GIGABIT LAN PORT + Wi-Fi (Wi-Fi excluded on H310I-PLUS)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 4 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Monitor
Samsung LS24D330HSX/EN 24" LED monitor
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days

Price: £1,222.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-sff-gaming/zXgZMmHdjV/

 

In this instance I'd go with the i5 7200 U as it's base processor is 2.5ghz - FM requies 2.2ghz 

The Ryzen does not meet FM minimum specs.

Not that one for the same reason as posted above

https://www.box.co.uk/FX504GD-E41275T-ASUS-TUF-FX504GD-E41275T_2458989.html

 

It's a bit under spec for FM but should be ok.

They're all the same really - go for the last one - it's a tiny bit better.

 

FM requires 2.2ghz - I'd be only looking at processors with a minimum of 2.2ghz base speed.

 

Looks good!

 

There's no information on the specs reallly - I wouldn't bother. 

https://www.box.co.uk/(Open-Box)-Asus-VivoBook-Max-X541UA-GO79_2280140.html

Like the look of this, tiny bit over budget but v doable thank you! 

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1 hour ago, Smurf said:

I thought I already told you.

It's just a bit better - not really sure and couldn't be bothered looking back to be honest.

No mate, you recommended the one below which I appreciate but I also wanted to know if the graphics card below is perfect for the 3D match engine

 

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5 Dedicated Graphics

https://www.laptopoutlet.co.uk/asus-tuf-fx504ge-e4031t-15-6-laptop-intel-core-i5-8300h-2-3-ghz-4-0-ghz-turbo-quad-core-processor-8gb-ram-1tb-hdd-128gb-ssd-full-hd-display-nvidia-gf-gtx-1050ti-4gb-gddr5-dedicated-graphics-windows-10-home.html

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@Smurf I’ve come to the conclusion I want an Mac due to course work, editing and being already on the apple eco system so wondering if this MacBook Pro would work on fm20? https://www.johnlewis.com/2019-apple-macbook-pro-13-3-inch-touch-bar-with-touch-id-intel-core-i5-8gb-ram-128gb-ssd/p4259072

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5 hours ago, MerseyReds said:

No mate, you recommended the one below which I appreciate but I also wanted to know if the graphics card below is perfect for the 3D match engine

 

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5 Dedicated Graphics

https://www.laptopoutlet.co.uk/asus-tuf-fx504ge-e4031t-15-6-laptop-intel-core-i5-8300h-2-3-ghz-4-0-ghz-turbo-quad-core-processor-8gb-ram-1tb-hdd-128gb-ssd-full-hd-display-nvidia-gf-gtx-1050ti-4gb-gddr5-dedicated-graphics-windows-10-home.html

Yeh it is fine

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11 minutes ago, zakbrown96 said:

@Smurf I’ve come to the conclusion I want an Mac due to course work, editing and being already on the apple eco system so wondering if this MacBook Pro would work on fm20? https://www.johnlewis.com/2019-apple-macbook-pro-13-3-inch-touch-bar-with-touch-id-intel-core-i5-8gb-ram-128gb-ssd/p4259072

Yeh they work just fine but very expensive for what is under the hood. You can get a better Windows laptop for half the price.

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On 06/10/2019 at 15:13, Smurf said:

Yeh they work just fine but very expensive for what is under the hood. You can get a better Windows laptop for half the price.

Any recommendations? Ideally like it to be about 13inch screen and portable with ease, budget around £600 to  £1000

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I’m looking for a decent Laptop to run FM20 as my laptop has died, it will jus mostly be used for FM I’d like it to have decent graphics and be quick I usually run about 12 leagues with about 90k players and download player faces/badges etc I play in 3D and my last laptop struggled a bit towards its death 

my budget will be between roughly £500/£650 

 

i know its a question thats been answered hundreds ov times on the thread sorry

 

Thanks

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I’m buying FM 2020 after years of not buying the game. I’m also buying a new Mac Mini. I don’t understand if the graphics card is good enough, anyone know?

 

The only info I find on apple is:
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On 06/10/2019 at 18:31, stainyg said:

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/acer-nitro-5-an515-52-15-6-intel-core-i5-gtx-1050-gaming-laptop-256-gb-ssd-10194184-pdt.html

Thinking about getting this, usually play 3 or 4 leagues on large database and in 3D. Not bothered about graphics being amazing just want them decent. Will this be ok?

That's fine.

20 hours ago, Jamizzle said:

I’m looking for a decent Laptop to run FM20 as my laptop has died, it will jus mostly be used for FM I’d like it to have decent graphics and be quick I usually run about 12 leagues with about 90k players and download player faces/badges etc I play in 3D and my last laptop struggled a bit towards its death 

my budget will be between roughly £500/£650 

i know its a question thats been answered hundreds ov times on the thread sorry

Thanks

https://www.box.co.uk/FX504GD-E41275T-ASUS-TUF-FX504GD-E41275T_2458989.html

Note - it may not do all the leagues/database size to the speed you require - recommend reducing leagues/players until desired speed of progress is ok.

17 hours ago, putamadre said:

hello 

I have a budget of 500£. I play with lots of leagues loaded and big database. Is there a laptop that will be able to run the game smoothly on that price? 

Probably  best you can do on that budget https://www.box.co.uk/81HN00S6UK-Lenovo-V130_2560659.html

1 hour ago, BigBoy10 said:

Hi @Smurf 

looking for a quick bit of advice, will this laptop run FM 20 well? With space to download facepacks etc. 
 

http://www.cheaplaptopcompany.co.uk/laptops/hp-745-g2-ssd?sort=p.price&order=ASC

Thanks.

Nope.

1 hour ago, Stevmon said:

I’m buying FM 2020 after years of not buying the game. I’m also buying a new Mac Mini. I don’t understand if the graphics card is good enough, anyone know?

 

The only info I find on apple is:
  • Intel UHD Graphics 630

Why a Mac Mini? Terribly expensive for what is under the hood.

The UHD Graphics 630 is integrated in the Intel processor - it can run the 3D engine but you'll have to adjust the 3D match settings detail level to something you are happy with.

Again - why Mac Mini? You can buy a PC for half the price that is twice as good.

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6 hours ago, Stevmon said:

I’m buying FM 2020 after years of not buying the game. I’m also buying a new Mac Mini. I don’t understand if the graphics card is good enough, anyone know?

 

The only info I find on apple is:
  • Intel UHD Graphics 630

Should note that I intend to play FM with the 2D match engine.

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5 hours ago, Smurf said:

That's fine.

https://www.box.co.uk/FX504GD-E41275T-ASUS-TUF-FX504GD-E41275T_2458989.html

Note - it may not do all the leagues/database size to the speed you require - recommend reducing leagues/players until desired speed of progress is ok.

Probably  best you can do on that budget https://www.box.co.uk/81HN00S6UK-Lenovo-V130_2560659.html

Nope.

Why a Mac Mini? Terribly expensive for what is under the hood.

The UHD Graphics 630 is integrated in the Intel processor - it can run the 3D engine but you'll have to adjust the 3D match settings detail level to something you are happy with.

Again - why Mac Mini? You can buy a PC for half the price that is twice as good.

Prefer Mac and have the money :) plus other reasons. Only need to know that the graphics cars won’t get me into trouble (even though I’ll probably end up with the 2D engine).

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@Smurf this has been really helpful. I’m not ready to purchase quite yet, but hopefully putting the guide to practice. How would you evaluate the below options.

https://www.newegg.com/p/1TS-000D-036Z7?Item=9SIADVH8J94162

https://www.newegg.com/p/1TS-001A-00X76?Item=9SIAA0SABN7554

https://www.newegg.com/p/1TS-0016-00HZ2?Item=9SIAEYA9PD4314

 

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@Smurf

I'm looking at getting a Window Surface or something of that ilk (portable and touchscreen) for both work but also to play FM20 and beyond...

I tend to play with a large database with probably about 10 leagues normally although I do use Dan's English Lower League database sometimes.

Ideally I'd like to use 3D graphics as well but that's not set in stone. I have about £1000 roughly at the minute as a budget but that budget can be flexible

Having looked a bit around I've found these two and was wondering if either of these would be good for FM20

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-envy-x360-15-6-amd-ryzen-5-2-in-1-256-gb-ssd-black-10193319-pdt.html

Or

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/acer-spin-5-sp513-53n-13-3-intel-core-i7-2-in-1-laptop-512-ssd-silver-10193937-pdt.html

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13 hours ago, Stevmon said:

Prefer Mac and have the money :) plus other reasons. Only need to know that the graphics cars won’t get me into trouble (even though I’ll probably end up with the 2D engine).

If you have the money then buy a super laptop - you'd get much bang for your buck.

But if you're set on it it would be fine.

13 hours ago, Staffman said:

hey guys

i will be building a new pc , mostly for Strategy games and of course Football Manager

im in a dilemma on what CPU i need , im going for either a Intel i9 9900k or the new Ryzen 3950x

which one suited to my needs on FM

Either is fine for FM.

12 hours ago, BigBoy10 said:

@Smurf thanks for the reply, what’s the best I can get for £300 maximum.

Cheers.

Nothing. Better off waiting till you have more money.

11 hours ago, s0ni42 said:

@Smurf this has been really helpful. I’m not ready to purchase quite yet, but hopefully putting the guide to practice. How would you evaluate the below options.

https://www.newegg.com/p/1TS-000D-036Z7?Item=9SIADVH8J94162

https://www.newegg.com/p/1TS-001A-00X76?Item=9SIAA0SABN7554

https://www.newegg.com/p/1TS-0016-00HZ2?Item=9SIAEYA9PD4314

 

This one

https://www.newegg.com/p/1TS-000D-036Z7?Item=9SIADVH8J94162

 

9 hours ago, stato_bennett said:

Having looked a bit around I've found these two and was wondering if either of these would be good for FM20

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-envy-x360-15-6-amd-ryzen-5-2-in-1-256-gb-ssd-black-10193319-pdt.html

Or

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/acer-spin-5-sp513-53n-13-3-intel-core-i7-2-in-1-laptop-512-ssd-silver-10193937-pdt.html

Neither of them - but I will come back to you - just need to get something done here.

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10 hours ago, stato_bennett said:

Having looked a bit around I've found these two and was wondering if either of these would be good for FM20

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-envy-x360-15-6-amd-ryzen-5-2-in-1-256-gb-ssd-black-10193319-pdt.html

Or

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/acer-spin-5-sp513-53n-13-3-intel-core-i7-2-in-1-laptop-512-ssd-silver-10193937-pdt.html

This would be better

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Notebook-Refresh-i7-8750H-GeForce-Keyboard/dp/B07JKSCJRS/ref=sr_1_4?fst=as%3Aoff&qid=1570609108&refinements=p_n_feature_browse-bin%3A1481783031%2Cp_36%3A9708210031%2Cp_n_feature_fifteen_browse-bin%3A8322531031%2Cp_n_feature_seven_browse-bin%3A8322553031&rnid=8322541031&s=computers&sr=1-4

 

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@Smurf is this any good? https://ao.com/product/9s716j9i22481-msi-laptop-grey-60472-251.aspx

or 

https://www.very.co.uk/msi-gf63-8rd-254uk-156-inch-intel-core-i7-8gb-ram-1tb-hard-drive-amp-128gb-ssd-gtx-1050-ti-4gb-graphics-gaming-laptop/1600397453.prd?cm_mmc=google-_-BAU+-+Generic-_-Msi+15.6"+Laptops-_-msi+15.6"+laptops_p33753211545_[*AdID*]&utm_campaign=Generic_Electricals+-+MSI+-+Laptops&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_term=msi+15.6"+laptops&campaigntype=acquisition&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1d23taWP5QIVjbHtCh2BcQavEAMYASAAEgIwAvD_BwE

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@Smurf is this any good? https://ao.com/product/9s716j9i22481-msi-laptop-grey-60472-251.aspx

or 

https://www.very.co.uk/msi-gf63-8rd-254uk-156-inch-intel-core-i7-8gb-ram-1tb-hard-drive-amp-128gb-ssd-gtx-1050-ti-4gb-graphics-gaming-laptop/1600397453.prd?cm_mmc=google-_-BAU+-+Generic-_-Msi+15.6"+Laptops-_-msi+15.6"+laptops_p33753211545_[*AdID*]&utm_campaign=Generic_Electricals+-+MSI+-+Laptops&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_term=msi+15.6"+laptops&campaigntype=acquisition&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1d23taWP5QIVjbHtCh2BcQavEAMYASAAEgIwAvD_BwE

Both are very good - but I'd go for the 2nd one as it's a new processor.

 

 

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7 hours ago, Smurf said:

This would be better

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Notebook-Refresh-i7-8750H-GeForce-Keyboard/dp/B07JKSCJRS/ref=sr_1_4?fst=as%3Aoff&qid=1570609108&refinements=p_n_feature_browse-bin%3A1481783031%2Cp_36%3A9708210031%2Cp_n_feature_fifteen_browse-bin%3A8322531031%2Cp_n_feature_seven_browse-bin%3A8322553031&rnid=8322541031&s=computers&sr=1-4

 

My only problem with that one is I need a computer that is touch screen for occasional work that will be done on it

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My only problem with that one is I need a computer that is touch screen for occasional work that will be done on it

Well you won't find much better so in the price range you're in.

 

 

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4gb won't be enough - please let us know your budget and we can take a look and see if there's anything we can find online.

 

 

Sorry for late reply been busy but what gb is enough at min I’m looking at a Apple Mac is that good enough? 

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Ok so I apologise if I’m on the wrong thread before hand. So I’m about to purchase a laptop after a few years of playing football manager touch, however as a student I’m on a budget so I can’t exactly splash out on a expensive laptop. Most of the laptops around my budget range have 4gb ram is this good enough to run football manager or no? I also have no idea about specs and so on with laptops so thanks for all you guys help in advance. 

 

5 minutes ago, Breezybaby1 said:

Sorry for late reply been busy but what gb is enough at min I’m looking at a Apple Mac is that good enough? 

 

On your first post about buying a computer - copied above - you said you were looking for at 4gb RAM laptops as this is all you can afford.

Now you come back and say you can buy an Apple Mac?

Apple Mac start at about £1000 

 

If you spend £1000 on a laptop you'll get a far superior computer for Football Manager.

Of course, if you still want this Apple Mac then go for it.

 

 

 

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On your first post about buying a computer - copied above - you said you were looking for at 4gb RAM laptops as this is all you can afford.

Now you come back and say you can buy an Apple Mac?

Apple Mac start at about £1000 

 

If you spend £1000 on a laptop you'll get a far superior computer for Football Manager.

Of course, if you still want this Apple Mac then go for it.

 

 

 

Yeah I’m a student now so I get student finance so I can afford to get loose a little bit lol. So Apple Mac is superior for it? Something I most likely will go for but is there any cheaper option. 

Thanks 

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I currently have a Lenovo G50  and it can't seem to cope with FM at all and is even really slow on FM touch.

Ideally I'd spend around £350-400. I only play one nation but like a large database if possible. I always play text commentary so not worried about graphics. I've been looking at the two below- is the ACER worth the extra money and going beyond my budget?

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-pavilion-14-ce0525sa-14-intel-pentium-gold-laptop-128-gb-ssd-silver-10193349-pdt.html?fbclid=IwAR25Td-iR4PDeZgbTmqFPtUgnlZXIxXxriKj-6cJBw8O85G9xNb0CoScEGo

 

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/acer-aspire-5-a514-52-14-intel-core-i5-laptop-256-gb-ssd-black-10195338-pdt.html?fbclid=IwAR2JkXwIetGqKy17OJ6X31jqILW0iUsusTUvY2k3VN75uGw8afGLt21b5_A

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Yeah I’m a student now so I get student finance so I can afford to get loose a little bit lol. So Apple Mac is superior for it? Something I most likely will go for but is there any cheaper option. 

Thanks 

In no way did I say Apple Mac was superior for it.

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8 hours ago, Smurf said:

Both are very good - but I'd go for the 2nd one as it's a new processor.

 

 

Before I order would I be better off with this one and save few quid? As only be using it for fm but want some future proofing https://www.very.co.uk/hp-pavilion-gaming-15-bc500na-intel-core-i5-8gb-ram-512gb-ssd-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050-3gb-156in-full-hd-touchscreen-laptop-shadow-black/1600401457.prd

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Before I order would I be better off with this one and save few quid? As only be using it for fm but want some future proofing https://www.very.co.uk/hp-pavilion-gaming-15-bc500na-intel-core-i5-8gb-ram-512gb-ssd-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050-3gb-156in-full-hd-touchscreen-laptop-shadow-black/1600401457.prd

Good

11 hours ago, Breezybaby1 said:

Well one that’s good enough to run it at a cheaper price than the Mac preferably? 

This is considerably better  https://www.box.co.uk/G531GU-AL315T-ASUS-ROG-Strix-G531GU-AL315T_2601655.html

A Mac at this price would be entry price point. 

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what one one would I say I was about to order this one u recommend

https://www.box.co.uk/FX504GD-E41275T-ASUS-TUF-FX504GD-E41275T_2458989.html

 

but then I saw this and it looks a lot better from  what I can see for an extra £50

https://www.very.co.uk/hp-pavilion-gaming-15-bc500na-intel-core-i5-8gb-ram-512gb-ssd-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050-3gb-156in-full-hd-touchscreen-laptop-shadow-black/1600401457.prd

 

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Hello, looking for a new desktop for FM20. Im not really bothered about good graphics card etc just want it to be able to load A LOT of leagues / players and still run quickly

Budget is up to £1,000 but could maybe go a bit higher if needed

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

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what one one would I say I was about to order this one u recommend

https://www.box.co.uk/FX504GD-E41275T-ASUS-TUF-FX504GD-E41275T_2458989.html

 

but then I saw this and it looks a lot better from  what I can see for an extra £50

https://www.very.co.uk/hp-pavilion-gaming-15-bc500na-intel-core-i5-8gb-ram-512gb-ssd-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050-3gb-156in-full-hd-touchscreen-laptop-shadow-black/1600401457.prd

 

 Thanks

A lot better how?

Both 15inch screens
Both 8gb RAM
Both GTX 1050 graphics card

Only slight upgrade is in processor and it's not even worth mentioning - you're paying an extra £50 for a small boost that is barely noticeable.

In saying that - if you're happy to pay £50 extra then go for it. It's slightly better - so should be ok.

 

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Hello, looking for a new desktop for FM20. Im not really bothered about good graphics card etc just want it to be able to load A LOT of leagues / players and still run quickly

Budget is up to £1,000 but could maybe go a bit higher if needed

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

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Add about 100 pound and you can buy PC with Ryzen 3600 (little bit better single core performance and about 70% better multicore) and GTX 1660.

The ryzen has a slower clock base speed. It has more cores/threads but that has been repeatedly downplayed for FM - as a lot of the game is still handled in the single thread.

Ok FM will and does create as many threads and uses as many cores are as available.

In the single core performance rating

Ryzen 5 3600 2912
i3 9350K 2638    

The difference isn't huge and I'd prefer the base speed over more cores for FM.

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