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7 hours ago, shd0w said:

That looks good for FM19/20, I'd be happy with that one.

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- Intel Core i7-8750H six core processor 
- 4Gb ram, 1Tb hd + 16Gb Intel Optane
- 15.6 FHD screen, nVidia GeForce GTX 1050 2Gb 
- Windows 10 Home

 

For £579 ... 

 

That seems a bit too good to be true right?

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22 hours ago, Ramsey717 said:

Hi there! I’m looking to buy a new laptop purely to run FM20 on. Want it to run smoothly and able to handle the matches on 3D. Would only want to run about 6-7 leagues in one save. My price range is between £500 and £1000 but it if I could get something around £800 to the job I would be happy! 

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NH.Q3MEK.001-Acer-Nitro-5-AN515-52-50TL_2424519.html this is the one I’ve been looking at currently, any other suggestions would be great!

Thanks! 

Hey, just wondering why you consider your choice above the others on the site with almost identical specs for much cheaper?

 

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX504GD-E41275T-ASUS-TUF-FX504GD-E41275T_2458989.html  for instance? 

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13 hours ago, shd0w said:

 

6 hours ago, JordanMillward_1 said:

That looks good for FM19/20, I'd be happy with that one.

 

4 minutes ago, Welshace said:

- Intel Core i7-8750H six core processor 
- 4Gb ram, 1Tb hd + 16Gb Intel Optane
- 15.6 FHD screen, nVidia GeForce GTX 1050 2Gb 
- Windows 10 Home

 

For £579 ... 

 

That seems a bit too good to be true right?

Guys - buyer beware!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-FX504GD-E4603T-Wide-View-Gaming-Laptop/dp/B07F3JGPW1

Read the reviews - it keeps going into recovery boot mode. 

You can probably fix it - but is it worth it? Probably not!

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I'm seeing a lot of people are still considering the still very expensive i7 7700hq over the i5 8300H even...

Please don't, you are throwing your money away.. the effective speed is better by a good margin on the newer i5 and the price difference is significant...  There is little to no reason to go with the 7700hq tbh.

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1 minute ago, Smurf said:

I tend to stay away from hp .. i never get on well with their native screens and find they overheat too easily.. but appreciate the suggestion.. you are right about the smaller ssd, but sata drives are super common and inexpensive, i'd rather fork out an extra £50 for one than settle for hardware that can't be swapped out like a dud screen on the hp

 

 

*just to note, hp are pretty damn good, this is just a personal issue i've had with them.. by all accounts, including people i've sold to, they are perfectly fine.

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8 minutes ago, Welshace said:

I tend to stay away from hp .. i never get on well with their native screens and find they overheat too easily.. but appreciate the suggestion.. you are right about the smaller ssd, but sata drives are super common and inexpensive, i'd rather fork out an extra £50 for one than settle for hardware that can't be swapped out like a dud screen on the hp

*just to note, hp are pretty damn good, this is just a personal issue i've had with them.. by all accounts, including people i've sold to, they are perfectly fine.

Yeh, heard some things in that regard.

Bottom line is you're buying a laptop on a budget, you won't get everything you want, and it won't always be rosey. Unless you want to fork out double that on the laptop - or even tripple that price to get something a bit more robust. 

You know the story with budget laptops, they are cheap for certain reasons.

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Hello

im looking on getting a new laptop for footy manager 2020 so can anyone give me any suggestions on which one to get? Have around a £600 budget and would like one which will run the game smoothly

@Smurf

 

Thanks

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Has anyone seen any i7-8750H laptops around for a semi decent price? can't seem to find any below £999 or so that aren't compromised in either graphics card selection or build quality of the chassis :(

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1 hour ago, Banno200 said:

Hello

im looking on getting a new laptop for footy manager 2020 so can anyone give me any suggestions on which one to get? Have around a £600 budget and would like one which will run the game smoothly

@Smurf

 

Thanks

There are literally dozens of suggestions on this and previous pages for your budget... you are also being vague as hell.  What does smoothly mean to you?  1 league and minimum graphics and a small database? a huge database, full graphics and 14 leagues?  what else are you using the laptop for?

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@Welshace

I tend to play with the large database and multiple leagues so could do with something which will take the high demand and when i mean by run smoothly is on my laptop now theres a bit of a delay clicking on various things

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3 minutes ago, Banno200 said:

@Welshace @Smurf

 

https://www.very.co.uk/lenovo-ideapad-330s-14ast-amd-a9nbsp4gbnbspramnbsp128gbnbspssd-14-inch-laptop/1600289390.prd

 

Would this laptop run fm19/20 with large databases and multiple leagues? A lot cheaper then my original budget as well

It's not great tbh.. it's an older gen chip and only a two core apu..

 

With your original budget this is a good shout...  

 

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/asus-fx504gd-e41275t-core-i5-8300h-8gb-256gb-ssd-15.6-inch-nvidia-geforce-g-fx504gd-e41275t/version.asp

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What is the generally accepted best CPU for a predominantly FM PC build these days? I'm currently toying between the 9700k or the 3700x.

Budget of around £1000 to include the following: CPU, Motherboard, RAM, M2 SSD

Already have a GTX 960 2GB graphics card, which seems to do the job for FM and other games at 1080p. Looking at M.2 for load and save times, and hoping to get a good overclock on the memory to help with processing times.

AMD: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/T7kVq4
Intel: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/mHkVq4

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48 minutes ago, Banno200 said:

It will do fine... you again, won't run fm to the max with it.. the graphics card onboard is fine, it will run the 3d, but the cpu is a low power spec, which means fm will struggle at times and will undoubtedly get a bit warm with extended play..

 

The difference in quality of life you will get for that extra £150 or so is massive.. really really massive

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1 hour ago, Abaddon879 said:

What is the generally accepted best CPU for a predominantly FM PC build these days? I'm currently toying between the 9700k or the 3700x.

Budget of around £1000 to include the following: CPU, Motherboard, RAM, M2 SSD

Already have a GTX 960 2GB graphics card, which seems to do the job for FM and other games at 1080p. Looking at M.2 for load and save times, and hoping to get a good overclock on the memory to help with processing times.

AMD: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/T7kVq4
Intel: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/mHkVq4

The higher on these lists the better for FM - typically

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmark-List.2436.0.html

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

 

 

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1 hour ago, Abaddon879 said:

What is the generally accepted best CPU for a predominantly FM PC build these days? I'm currently toying between the 9700k or the 3700x.

Budget of around £1000 to include the following: CPU, Motherboard, RAM, M2 SSD

Already have a GTX 960 2GB graphics card, which seems to do the job for FM and other games at 1080p. Looking at M.2 for load and save times, and hoping to get a good overclock on the memory to help with processing times.

AMD: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/T7kVq4
Intel: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/mHkVq4

For fm, intel still wins .. as far as amd have come with the ryzen line ( they are fantastic all rounders) the extra £50 you spent on the 9700k will be worth it in my experience with both...

graphics card is a bit of a bottleneck with such a powered system depending on what games you are looking at..

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Abaddon879 said:

What is the generally accepted best CPU for a predominantly FM PC build these days? I'm currently toying between the 9700k or the 3700x.

Budget of around £1000 to include the following: CPU, Motherboard, RAM, M2 SSD

Already have a GTX 960 2GB graphics card, which seems to do the job for FM and other games at 1080p. Looking at M.2 for load and save times, and hoping to get a good overclock on the memory to help with processing times.

AMD: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/T7kVq4
Intel: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/mHkVq4

 

Just now, Smurf said:

Sorry missed a few bits - 

GTX 960 would be fine for FM - but better pairing with as it might bottleneck for other games - but for FM it will be fine.

M2 SSD is good for loading up the system and general saving files. But has little or no impact for general day-to-day processing for FM - you won't see much gains in game speed - but nonetheless I wouldn't go for anything else either.

 

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40 minutes ago, Welshace said:

For fm, intel still wins .. as far as amd have come with the ryzen line ( they are fantastic all rounders) the extra £50 you spent on the 9700k will be worth it in my experience with both...

graphics card is a bit of a bottleneck with such a powered system depending on what games you are looking at..

Thanks, that's the same opinion that I've been arriving at. Despite the multi-threading being of some benefit when processing lots of leagues, the day to day processing power is still limited by the single core max clock speed, and here Intel is still dominant. 

As for the graphics card, I know its a little under-powered when combined with that CPU, however I don't tend to play any AAA titles, and so far I've not encountered any limiting issues from it. If the time comes when I do, I'm more than happy to drop an extra couple hundred on something like a 5700 or 2060 (or the equivalents at the time).

Time to go raid the proverbial piggy bank and build myself a shiny new rig.

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Just now, Abaddon879 said:

Thanks, that's the same opinion that I've been arriving at. Despite the multi-threading being of some benefit when processing lots of leagues, the day to day processing power is still limited by the single core max clock speed, and here Intel is still dominant. 

As for the graphics card, I know its a little under-powered when combined with that CPU, however I don't tend to play any AAA titles, and so far I've not encountered any limiting issues from it. If the time comes when I do, I'm more than happy to drop an extra couple hundred on something like a 5700 or 2060 (or the equivalents at the time).

Time to go raid the proverbial piggy bank and build myself a shiny new rig.

Great stuff, looks like you've got it sorted..

 

 

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Before I go ahead and buy this one now.. can anyone recommend a better spec'd laptop for less?

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2 hours ago, Welshace said:

It's not great tbh.. it's an older gen chip and only a two core apu..

 

With your original budget this is a good shout...  

 

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/asus-fx504gd-e41275t-core-i5-8300h-8gb-256gb-ssd-15.6-inch-nvidia-geforce-g-fx504gd-e41275t/version.asp

@Welshace that laptop is out of stock now, any alternative?

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3 hours ago, Welshace said:

Has anyone seen any i7-8750H laptops around for a semi decent price? can't seem to find any below £999 or so that aren't compromised in either graphics card selection or build quality of the chassis :(

NOt sure how you feel about PC Specialist

I'm a little bit over the amount you asked for.

Chassis & Display
Optimus Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD 120Hz 45% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Six Core Processor 9750H (2.6GHz, 4.5GHz Turbo)

 
down_right_arrow.gifGet Total War: Three Kingdoms & More w/ select Intel CPUs!

Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair 2400MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1650 - 4.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st Storage Drive
NOT REQUIRED
1st M.2 SSD Drive
250GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 2300MB/W)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated 6 in 1 Card Reader (SD /Mini SD/ SDHC / SDXC / MMC / RSMMC)
AC Adaptor
1 x 120W AC Adaptor
Battery
Optimus X Series 4 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre Cloverleaf UK Power Cable
Thermal Paste
COOLER MASTER MASTERGEL MAKER THERMAL COMPOUND
Sound Card
2 Channel High Def. Audio + SoundBlaster™ Cinema
Bluetooth & Wireless
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 (2.4 Gbps) + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
1 x USB 3.1 PORT (Type C) + 2 x USB 3.0 PORTS + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT
Keyboard Language
MULTI COLOUR BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Notebook Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 1MP HD WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Chassis
Clevo NH55RAQ (4GB GTX-1650, i7-9750H, 120Hz N4)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 8 working days

Price: £1,045.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.ie/saved-configurations/optimusX-15/2GZRN8GchW/

 

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1 minute ago, Welshace said:

Graphics card is a bit under for the processor - overall it's quite decent.

Going from that site I'd go with 

https://www.box.co.uk/17-w110na-HP-OMEN-17-w110na_2025523.html

https://www.box.co.uk/30026114-Medion-Erazer-X7859_2644525.html

https://www.box.co.uk/30025007-Medion-Erazer-X6805_2431524.html

 

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6 minutes ago, Smurf said:

Thanks mate, think i'm gonna go ahead and order the one i posted... the only one there i'd be willing to swap it with is the last one you posted, but essentially i'd be paying an extra £150 for an extra 30fps on games i play....  and I think i'm more than happy to compromise on ultra settings for very high etc...

 

Appreciate the advice! Been a long time since i bought a laptop for my own actual use rather than other people!

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8 minutes ago, Welshace said:

Thanks mate, think i'm gonna go ahead and order the one i posted... the only one there i'd be willing to swap it with is the last one you posted, but essentially i'd be paying an extra £150 for an extra 30fps on games i play....  and I think i'm more than happy to compromise on ultra settings for very high etc...

 

Appreciate the advice! Been a long time since i bought a laptop for my own actual use rather than other people!

I know the dilemma - it's definitely a hard spoke to spin when looking for yourself. 

The one  you have there is no problem at all - just your budget is 999. 

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1 minute ago, Smurf said:

I know the dilemma - it's definitely a hard spoke to spin when looking for yourself. 

The one  you have there is no problem at all - just your budget is 999. 

Yeah ...technically the budget is £999 but the thought of buying the mrs something nice with the extra £150 saved to soften the blow of spending some of my winnings already is too tempting.... a quiet life is all i want, and a quiet life where i can sit back and play fm on a decent machine is all anybody needs :)

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8 minutes ago, Welshace said:

Yeah ...technically the budget is £999 but the thought of buying the mrs something nice with the extra £150 saved to soften the blow of spending some of my winnings already is too tempting.... a quiet life is all i want, and a quiet life where i can sit back and play fm on a decent machine is all anybody needs :)

Spa weekend break would be good and gives you a weekend by yourself!

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12 hours ago, Welshace said:

I tend to stay away from hp .. i never get on well with their native screens and find they overheat too easily..

I have a HP, have played 712hrs of FM19 on it and it works well enough.
You are right about overheating though, it's a bit of an issue although it's only been a bit of a concern rather than it actually breaking down on me.

Specs aren't great but it does the job:
Operating System
    Windows 10 Home 64-bit
CPU
    Intel Core i5 @ 2.30GHz 
    Skylake-U/Y 14nm Technology
RAM
    8.00GB Single-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-11-28)
Motherboard
    HP 80A1 (U3E1)
Graphics
    Generic PnP Monitor (1366x768@60Hz)
    Intel HD Graphics 520 (HP)
Storage
    931GB Hitachi HGST HTS541010A9E680 (SATA )
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Sometimes I think people get too hung up on the numbers. Would I like a superfast machine with amazing graphics? Sure but people dismiss almost anything that isn't top notch far too easily.
I don't mean you. I'm pretty sure that this laptop I've just detailed was one you helped me pick out 2-3yrs ago via a previous version of this thread.

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17 minutes ago, Earnie is God! said:

I have a HP, have played 712hrs of FM19 on it and it works well enough.
You are right about overheating though, it's a bit of an issue although it's only been a bit of a concern rather than it actually breaking down on me.

Specs aren't great but it does the job:
Operating System
    Windows 10 Home 64-bit
CPU
    Intel Core i5 @ 2.30GHz 
    Skylake-U/Y 14nm Technology
RAM
    8.00GB Single-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-11-28)
Motherboard
    HP 80A1 (U3E1)
Graphics
    Generic PnP Monitor (1366x768@60Hz)
    Intel HD Graphics 520 (HP)
Storage
    931GB Hitachi HGST HTS541010A9E680 (SATA )
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Sometimes I think people get too hung up on the numbers. Would I like a superfast machine with amazing graphics? Sure but people dismiss almost anything that isn't top notch far too easily.
I don't mean you. I'm pretty sure that this laptop I've just detailed was one you helped me pick out 2-3yrs ago via a previous version of this thread.

Yeah pretty sure it was!..

 

And the laptop I bought myself today is the first new high range one I've had in about 15 years!..

 

I played fm19 on an old Lenovo ThinkPad with a 2nd gen low end i5 that could handle about 3 seasons before giving up the ghost ...

I agree completely about the numbers thing, but it's the equivalent of purchasing a car (don't do it mods) ... Any car will do the job, but you want to very best you can get :)

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13 hours ago, Banno200 said:

 

11 hours ago, Banno200 said:

https://www.very.co.uk/acer-nitro-5-intel-core-i5-8gb-ram-1tb-hard-drive-amp-256gb-ssd-nvidiareg-geforce-gtxtrade-1650-4g-gaming-laptop-black/1600392114.prd

I have increased my budget now, will this laptop be good enough to run 3d match engine on football manager??

 

1 hour ago, Banno200 said:

@Welshace @Smurf

is that laptop suitable for fm 19/20?

You're second option is fine.

 

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Hi all,

I've recently got back into Football Manager and looking for a laptop that basically, will solely be for Football Manager and no other games.

 

  • Budget: £300-400
  • Leagues: 4/5 Leagues (EPL, La Liga etc.) with a large database
  • Graphic Settings: I don't run the 3d graphic simulation settings for matchdays but want the loading to be prompt

I do like to download the badges, facepacks etc.

 

Apologies if I've missed any information

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27 minutes ago, Abreyy said:

Hi all,

I've recently got back into Football Manager and looking for a laptop that basically, will solely be for Football Manager and no other games.

  • Budget: £300-400
  • Leagues: 4/5 Leagues (EPL, La Liga etc.) with a large database
  • Graphic Settings: I don't run the 3d graphic simulation settings for matchdays but want the loading to be prompt

I do like to download the badges, facepacks etc.

Apologies if I've missed any information

https://www.box.co.uk/NX.EFREK.014-Acer-Extensa-15_2612001.html#DetailTop

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3 hours ago, Smurf said:

It's ridiculous the spec laptop you can get for that sort of budget these days.. that's an amazing lappy ..  8th gen i3 that boosts to 3.9ghz, 256gb ssd and 8gb ram for less than £400 .. mad

also, an update on my new laptop.. best laptop i've ever had, completely silent at all times, super fast, super powerful,.. would only suggest that anyone with an i7 8750H should 100% undervolt it to reduce throttling and reduce heat output.. it's reduced temps by 20c and i get an extra 40fps on most games.

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45 minutes ago, Welshace said:

It's ridiculous the spec laptop you can get for that sort of budget these days.. that's an amazing lappy ..  8th gen i3 that boosts to 3.9ghz, 256gb ssd and 8gb ram for less than £400 .. mad

also, an update on my new laptop.. best laptop i've ever had, completely silent at all times, super fast, super powerful,.. would only suggest that anyone with an i7 8750H should 100% undervolt it to reduce throttling and reduce heat output.. it's reduced temps by 20c and i get an extra 40fps on most games.

That's great! I'll try remember that one for others looking!

Yes, crazy spec! I often overlook i3's but on a lower budget, it's actually pretty damn good!

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27 minutes ago, Terrythepin said:

Ok so with FM2020 release just a month away, I’ve pre ordered and feel it’s time to buy a new laptop before it’s released! I’m hopeless at this kind of thing, any ideas on what to buy? I know the specs for the new game, I’ve put them in a picture on this post, but can I get a laptop for under £300 good enough to run the game with more than my usual 1.5 star run speed? Any help? Cheers 

14707737-9F2E-47D6-9ED4-E47841ACD459.png

 

Taken from the other thread to keep everything together.

You won't get a lot for £300 - but do take a look at the above recommendation a few posts up for £400 - is that ok for you?

BEst I can find under £300 is this -but it is refurbished

https://www.box.co.uk/(Grade-A)-HP-250-G5_2606322.html

https://www.box.co.uk/grading-explained

 

 

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Hey everyone. I'm going to build a new desktop. And I've been out of the loop on CPU's for a handful of years now. What would be better for FM specifically (I don't play any other games on PC, just FM and use it as a work station),  an i9 9900k or a Ryzen 9 3900X? My current desktop is using an i5 6600K, and FM19 can get pretty slow after the first season with only a few leagues loaded. And trying to do a journeyman where I load everything, its insanely slow right out the gate.  FM16-18 were fine on that CPU. But FM19 kicks its ass. So I want to upgrade. Let me know which would be better. I'm assuming the i9 because of the single core power, but I know nothing about modern AMD. I stopped using AMD about 8 years ago.  Thanks in advance.

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