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13 hours ago, Hembrough747 said:

Hi Smurf, 

ive managed to up my budget to around 475. I’m looking for a laptop that plays fm -doesn’t need to play any other games really. I’ve found this myself: 

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/refurbished-medion-erazer-p6679-core-i5-7200u-8gb-1tb-geforce-gtx-950-15.6-a1-30023186/version.asp

 

Would this be a good choice for my budget? I’m concerned about the battery life as I think it’s only around 3 hours and I like to play for longer than that!

 

The other one I’ve found is this one: the processor is better I think and so is the battery life. If this would handle 3d (at low to mid level) that might suit me more.

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/hp-250-core-i7-7500u-8gb-256gb-ssd-15.6-inch-windows-10-laptop-2sy44es/version.asp

The laptop just needs to be able to play FM as well as possible (for the budget) and perform simple Microsoft word tasks etc. I would like it to also be as fast as possible (for that budget). I recognise the budget is somewhat limiting but thought I’d see what you can come up with! 

 

Thsnks, 

Ollie

  1. With a low budget like that - go for the processor as high up the list here - https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmark-List.2436.0.html
  2. 8gb RAM minimum
  3. And you will probably not get a dedicated graphics card - so whatever the integrated graphics card in the best processor for your budget (see point 1)
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3 hours ago, Smurf said:
  1. With a low budget like that - go for the processor as high up the list here - https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmark-List.2436.0.html
  2. 8gb RAM minimum
  3. And you will probably not get a dedicated graphics card - so whatever the integrated graphics card in the best processor for your budget (see point 1)

Would these best that?

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/refurbished-lenovo-ideapad-330-core-i5-8300h-8gb-1tb-128gb-gtx-1050-windo-a1-81f400lbuk/version.asp low clock speeed?

 

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/refurbished-asus-tuf-fx504-core-i5-8300h-8gb-1tb-gtx-1050-15.6-inch-window-a1-fx504gd-dm040t/version.asp#/maindesc

thanks very much for your help

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Looking for a bit of advice, I'm having to replace my laptop and have a budget of £700 at the most. I only use a laptop for FM and making graphics for FM in photoshop, typically GIF files for video adboards (which can be around 20 seconds long and upto 80Mb in size). In regards to FM I play in the 3D match engine and look to have the top leagues in at least 6 nations in a save, typically my saves rarely pass 4 seasons. I also travel a lot so a sturdy laptop is essential as in the past I have had problems with the screen hinges breaking.

I have looked into the 4 laptops below, would anyone be able to recommend one of the 4 or something more suitable within my budget?

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX504GD-E4127-ASUS-TUF-Gaming-FX504GD-E4127_2571126.html

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/4CK41EAABU-HP-Pavilion-17-ab405na_2354467.html

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NH.Q3REK.008-Acer-Nitro-5-AN515-42-R8H1_2424521.html

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX504GD-E4603T-ASUS-FX504GD-E4603T_2354095.html

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1 hour ago, rabcp said:

Looking for a bit of advice, I'm having to replace my laptop and have a budget of £700 at the most. I only use a laptop for FM and making graphics for FM in photoshop, typically GIF files for video adboards (which can be around 20 seconds long and upto 80Mb in size). In regards to FM I play in the 3D match engine and look to have the top leagues in at least 6 nations in a save, typically my saves rarely pass 4 seasons. I also travel a lot so a sturdy laptop is essential as in the past I have had problems with the screen hinges breaking.

I have looked into the 4 laptops below, would anyone be able to recommend one of the 4 or something more suitable within my budget?

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX504GD-E4127-ASUS-TUF-Gaming-FX504GD-E4127_2571126.html

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/4CK41EAABU-HP-Pavilion-17-ab405na_2354467.html

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NH.Q3REK.008-Acer-Nitro-5-AN515-42-R8H1_2424521.html

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX504GD-E4603T-ASUS-FX504GD-E4603T_2354095.html

1,2, or 4.

 

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Hi Smurf,

in need of a new laptop. Budget is about £200/£300. I know it’s a low budget. I play fm but also need it for the internet and word. 

Any suggestion on laptop in that price bracket?

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On 31/07/2019 at 15:40, Smurf said:

1,2, or 4.

 

Cheers Smurf, appreciate the advice, went with the 1st one in the end 

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6 hours ago, Fuzzy79 said:

Hi Smurf,

in need of a new laptop. Budget is about £200/£300. I know it’s a low budget. I play fm but also need it for the internet and word. 

Any suggestion on laptop in that price bracket?

It's not looking good. I'd hold off and try double that.

 

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I'm looking for a laptop with a £700 budget and I only usually have the top 5 leagues loaded with the database as small or medium, can you tell me the ideal specs for this please?   Then I can go and look for something and come back to you guys. 

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41 minutes ago, Kaliwax said:

I'm looking for a laptop with a £700 budget and I only usually have the top 5 leagues loaded with the database as small or medium, can you tell me the ideal specs for this please?   Then I can go and look for something and come back to you guys. 

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX504GD-E4127-ASUS-TUF-Gaming-FX504GD-E4127_2571126.html

This would be fine - not a lot of storage on it - but enough to get you going.

You could upgrade the hard drive down the road.

 

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1 hour ago, Kaliwax said:

Would it be better to get one with 8gb but bigger hard drive?~

8gb would be ok - and no problem at all you could upgrade the ram at a later date to 16 gb no problem.

This would be good too 

Both the same price - but one is 15 inch and the other is 17 inch.

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/5WB81EAABU-HP-Pavilion-Gaming-15-cx0017na_2453616.html

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/4AN88EAABU-HP-Pavilion-17-ab401na_2462200.html

This would be a similar configuration I have - Windows is installed on the 128gb SSD - and games/downloads setup to be installed on the hard drive. 

You have to set this up though - the 128gb sdd drive fills up quick!

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17 minutes ago, Smurf said:

8gb would be ok - and no problem at all you could upgrade the ram at a later date to 16 gb no problem.

This would be good too 

Both the same price - but one is 15 inch and the other is 17 inch.

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/5WB81EAABU-HP-Pavilion-Gaming-15-cx0017na_2453616.html

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/4AN88EAABU-HP-Pavilion-17-ab401na_2462200.html

This would be a similar configuration I have - Windows is installed on the 128gb SSD - and games/downloads setup to be installed on the hard drive. 

You have to set this up though - the 128gb sdd drive fills up quick!

 

How would I go about making sure my steam files and games are downloaded on the hard drive?

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8 minutes ago, Kaliwax said:

 

How would I go about making sure my steam files and games are downloaded on the hard drive?

https://www.howtogeek.com/269515/how-to-move-a-steam-game-to-another-drive-without-re-downloading-it/

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7710-tdlc-0426

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On 06/08/2019 at 09:52, Smurf said:

Not great - but it will work. And FM20 isn't out yet - the question is unanswerable.

Thank you. What would you suggest I look at that’s less than £550?

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I am a little bit in love with this and considering buying

https://www.amazon.co.uk/HUAWEI-MateBook-13-Inch-Laptop-FullView/dp/B07KCJGGW3/ref=sr_1_6?crid=2F8BFY3A88ATG&keywords=huawei%2Bnotebook&qid=1565208026&s=gateway&sprefix=hauwei%2Bnote%2Caps%2C166&sr=8-6&th=1

At that price though, a pre-requisite would be being able to run FM very well? I am considering the 8GB option too as wondering if 16GB is overkill.

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4 hours ago, shaunwwfc said:

I am a little bit in love with this and considering buying

https://www.amazon.co.uk/HUAWEI-MateBook-13-Inch-Laptop-FullView/dp/B07KCJGGW3/ref=sr_1_6?crid=2F8BFY3A88ATG&keywords=huawei%2Bnotebook&qid=1565208026&s=gateway&sprefix=hauwei%2Bnote%2Caps%2C166&sr=8-6&th=1

At that price though, a pre-requisite would be being able to run FM very well? I am considering the 8GB option too as wondering if 16GB is overkill.

For the price, you can get better in terms of processor, graphics card, RAM and hard drive space. You're pretty much mostly paying for the size with that laptop.

For example: https://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/system/Ready-To-Ship-Tracer-RTX-15-Slim-SY222 - That has a better processor, top quality graphics card that'll easily deal with any game out now, 16GB RAM, and a bigger screen.

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Hi Smurf,

Sorry to ask but I couldn’t find anything in this thread which specifically addresses what I’m looking for, and I know very little about laptops.

Basically I want something around the £500 mark, and the single most important thing to me is that the 3D match engine runs smoothly. I don’t mind average/lower resolution but lag just ruins it for me.

I would give or take 50-maybe 100 pounds but I’d prefer to keep it cheapish.

Really appreciate any help as I just had a bit of an ordeal with a Meridian Erazer which I ended up returning because of laggg.

Thanks!

 

 

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On 07/08/2019 at 20:28, Withers said:

Hi, best option out of these 2?

 

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/4CK41EAABU-HP-Pavilion-17-ab405na_2354467.html

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX504GD-E41275T-ASUS-TUF-FX504GD-E41275T_2458989.html

Or is there something better in the same price range? Thanks in advance. 

 

One is 15 inch the other is 17 inch which do you prefer?

One has a SSD with 256gb storage (not a lot) the other has 1000gb storage (which is a lot).

Which do you prefer. 

16 hours ago, willstannard said:

Hi Smurf,

Sorry to ask but I couldn’t find anything in this thread which specifically addresses what I’m looking for, and I know very little about laptops.

Basically I want something around the £500 mark, and the single most important thing to me is that the 3D match engine runs smoothly. I don’t mind average/lower resolution but lag just ruins it for me.

I would give or take 50-maybe 100 pounds but I’d prefer to keep it cheapish.

Really appreciate any help as I just had a bit of an ordeal with a Meridian Erazer which I ended up returning because of laggg.

Thanks!

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX504GD-E41275T-ASUS-TUF-FX504GD-E41275T_2458989.html

You will probably need to up your storage later on - either an external USB drive - or add a 2nd hard drive - both easily done.

 

 

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I was talking to my younger brother tonight and now considering buying him a rig for his birthday/Christmas.
I'm looking to spend about $600 AUD but not completely sure if I can find value for what he wants within that budget.

He wants to run Adobe to edit videos for school, and use it to edit/upload his Fortnite videos. I'd also say some medium/heavy gaming too.

http://www.comwiz.net.au/#systems - These are a little out of my price range, I don't like him THAT much, though I have used them before and quite liked the rig I bought off them eight or so years ago (since replaced).

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Looking for some help finally buying a new laptop as my current one is getting a bit slow, will use new laptop for general use and of course football manager my budget is £400 to £500. 

I have attached the details of my current laptop,

Any help much appreciated.

Many Thanks

Adam

 

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7 hours ago, VanGyselG said:

Thank you for your prompt reply. Would I be able to run a large db with high settings and 3D-view?

Most computers can run a large database - it relies on a few things:

1) How many seasons you play 1-5 may be  ok - but 10+ or 20+ seasons might be taxing. 

2) If you have leagues loaded, or just in the background

3)  How fast is acceptable for you, for some 1 week for a season is fast, for some it's too slow.

 

3 hours ago, DGMGandy said:

I was talking to my younger brother tonight and now considering buying him a rig for his birthday/Christmas.
I'm looking to spend about $600 AUD but not completely sure if I can find value for what he wants within that budget.

He wants to run Adobe to edit videos for school, and use it to edit/upload his Fortnite videos. I'd also say some medium/heavy gaming too.

http://www.comwiz.net.au/#systems - These are a little out of my price range, I don't like him THAT much, though I have used them before and quite liked the rig I bought off them eight or so years ago (since replaced).

is it a desktop or a laptop?

The cheapest one on that page is $1000+ and your budget is $600? Can you point to other laptop/electrical/online stores in your area?

3 hours ago, fullylove007 said:

Looking for some help finally buying a new laptop as my current one is getting a bit slow, will use new laptop for general use and of course football manager my budget is £400 to £500. 

I have attached the details of my current laptop,

Any help much appreciated.

Many Thanks

Adam

 

computer info.png

There's a few at that price range quoted above - have a browse through those.

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I'm town on what to get out of these 2. Which out of these 2 would you recommend? I'm not too clued up on Ryzen processors, is the Ryzen 5 3350H better than an i7-8750H?

https://www.johnlewis.com/asus-tuf-fx505dt-al153t-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-5-processor-8gb-ram-256gb-ssd-geforce-gtx-1650-15-6-full-hd-gun-metal/p4243515

 

https://www.box.co.uk/5WA67EAABU-HP-Pavilion-Gaming-15-cx0018na_2453614.html

Thanks in advance for your help

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15 minutes ago, bigmattb28 said:

I'm town on what to get out of these 2. Which out of these 2 would you recommend? I'm not too clued up on Ryzen processors, is the Ryzen 5 3350H better than an i7-8750H?

https://www.johnlewis.com/asus-tuf-fx505dt-al153t-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-5-processor-8gb-ram-256gb-ssd-geforce-gtx-1650-15-6-full-hd-gun-metal/p4243515

 

https://www.box.co.uk/5WA67EAABU-HP-Pavilion-Gaming-15-cx0018na_2453614.html

Thanks in advance for your help

I'd go for the i7 laptop. It has a better processor for FM (which is very much a single core heavy game, rather than multi-core, and the i7 is a faster processor anyway), more RAM, more storage space overall, and a better graphics card. Performance-wise, the HP laptop you linked to is just better than the ASUS John Lewis laptop, no question.

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Hi Smurf,

 

Downgrading myself with a small budget, max £450 (cheaper the better, would prefer £350-400). Must be a 13-14” screen but will only be using for FM (sparingly) and O365. 

 

Have been erm looking at a few and not sure, advice please. 

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-pavilion-14-ce1508sa-14-intel-core-i3-laptop-128-gb-ssd-burgundy-10188777-pdt.html

 

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-c340-14-intel-pentium-laptop-128-gb-ssd-blue-10193437-pdt.html

 

or could I get a 4gb cheaper machine, like a Acer swift 3 and upgrade the RAM or would that not work as well? 

Not too fussed about graphics and I’d use an external HD for storage if needed.

Thanks,

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9 hours ago, JordanMillward_1 said:

I'd go for the i7 laptop. It has a better processor for FM (which is very much a single core heavy game, rather than multi-core, and the i7 is a faster processor anyway), more RAM, more storage space overall, and a better graphics card. Performance-wise, the HP laptop you linked to is just better than the ASUS John Lewis laptop, no question.

Thanks for the reply mate. Will go for the HP one.

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14 hours ago, fullylove007 said:

It will work - but it won't be great - I'd only really recommend something in around 600 quid. 

But if that's your budget then go for it. 

12 hours ago, bigmattb28 said:

I'm town on what to get out of these 2. Which out of these 2 would you recommend? I'm not too clued up on Ryzen processors, is the Ryzen 5 3350H better than an i7-8750H?

https://www.johnlewis.com/asus-tuf-fx505dt-al153t-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-5-processor-8gb-ram-256gb-ssd-geforce-gtx-1650-15-6-full-hd-gun-metal/p4243515

 

https://www.box.co.uk/5WA67EAABU-HP-Pavilion-Gaming-15-cx0018na_2453614.html

Thanks in advance for your help

 

12 hours ago, JordanMillward_1 said:

I'd go for the i7 laptop. It has a better processor for FM (which is very much a single core heavy game, rather than multi-core, and the i7 is a faster processor anyway), more RAM, more storage space overall, and a better graphics card. Performance-wise, the HP laptop you linked to is just better than the ASUS John Lewis laptop, no question.

100% agree.

 

8 hours ago, akimyst said:

Hi Smurf,

Downgrading myself with a small budget, max £450 (cheaper the better, would prefer £350-400). Must be a 13-14” screen but will only be using for FM (sparingly) and O365. 

Have been erm looking at a few and not sure, advice please. 

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-pavilion-14-ce1508sa-14-intel-core-i3-laptop-128-gb-ssd-burgundy-10188777-pdt.html

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-c340-14-intel-pentium-laptop-128-gb-ssd-blue-10193437-pdt.html

or could I get a 4gb cheaper machine, like a Acer swift 3 and upgrade the RAM or would that not work as well? 

Not too fussed about graphics and I’d use an external HD for storage if needed.

Thanks,

In that case the first one is better in the processor. 

 

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13 hours ago, JordanMillward_1 said:

I'd go for the i7 laptop. It has a better processor for FM (which is very much a single core heavy game, rather than multi-core, and the i7 is a faster processor anyway), more RAM, more storage space overall, and a better graphics card. Performance-wise, the HP laptop you linked to is just better than the ASUS John Lewis laptop, no question.

Just seen a review on the HP one, not sure if I'm comfortable with the hinge being in the middle. What would you recommend for a budget of £900? Ideally want an i7 and 16gb ram. Looking for longevity and to play the next few editions.cheers

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40 minutes ago, bigmattb28 said:

Just seen a review on the HP one, not sure if I'm comfortable with the hinge being in the middle. What would you recommend for a budget of £900? Ideally want an i7 and 16gb ram. Looking for longevity and to play the next few editions.cheers

The laptop lid is flimsy, according to reviews, and can bend, but it doesn't affect the screen, the reviewers reckon there is a bit of protection between the lid and the screen. 

It can also get a bit hot due to it's TDP settings. 

 

 

If you go for a smaller screen and 8gb RAM (you can add RAM very easily at a later point)
https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/30025007-Medion-Erazer-X6805_2431524.html

Review
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Medion-Erazer-X6805-Core-i7-8750H-GTX-1060-FHD-Laptop-Review.390681.0.html

 

Or this - again 15 inches - and 8gb RAM - but again you buy RAM easily and cheapily and install easily
https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16R112-254-MSI-GF63-8RD-254UK_2410405.html

Review
https://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-GF63-8RD-254UK.385366.0.html

 

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1 hour ago, Smurf said:

The laptop lid is flimsy, according to reviews, and can bend, but it doesn't affect the screen, the reviewers reckon there is a bit of protection between the lid and the screen. 

It can also get a bit hot due to it's TDP settings. 

 

 

If you go for a smaller screen and 8gb RAM (you can add RAM very easily at a later point)
https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/30025007-Medion-Erazer-X6805_2431524.html

Review
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Medion-Erazer-X6805-Core-i7-8750H-GTX-1060-FHD-Laptop-Review.390681.0.html

 

Or this - again 15 inches - and 8gb RAM - but again you buy RAM easily and cheapily and install easily
https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16R112-254-MSI-GF63-8RD-254UK_2410405.html

Review
https://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-GF63-8RD-254UK.385366.0.html

 

Cheers mate. Is 16gb ram overkill for FM? Not really too clued up with what's best for FM.

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2 hours ago, bigmattb28 said:

Cheers mate. Is 16gb ram overkill for FM? Not really too clued up with what's best for FM.

8gb Ram is plenty. But 16gb is no harm whatsoever.

FM will use RAM for some functions, but it is a lot to do with the processor.

Performance wise at that price bracket you are in the i5 8300 h and the i7 8750h range.

The latter being the better processor overall, but for FM the two have similar enough single core performance, which FM will want to use a lot of. 

You cant upgrade the processor or the graphics card easily in a laptop... but upgrading ram and hard drive is pretty simple.

 

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11 hours ago, Smurf said:

It will work - but it won't be great - I'd only really recommend something in around 600 quid. 

But if that's your budget then go for it. 

 

100% agree.

 

In that case the first one is better in the processor. 

 

Thanks for the advice anyone have any thoughts on what's the best laptop out there at the moment for 600.

Many thanks 

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Hi Smurf, 

Hoping you can help. I've been playing fm for a long time and have looked on and off for an upgrade for a few years but never really know where to start. Ideally I would like something decent that I will be able to use for a good number of years to justify the cost although hard to predict future specs... 

Main things for me are (laptop, windows); 

Doesn't get to hot, especially as I sit and have on my lap a lot. Maybe vents on keyboard is beneficial?

Quiet, with long battery life (10hrs?)

I would like to play on a large database with a lot of countries without the game taking an age to progress and without the laptop heating up as it cannot cope.

Playing in 3D would be nice as I dont usually do this but not completely essential. 

Decent memory to store videos etc from the go pro/camera.

Budget: £1400 tops. Ideally £800-1200. 

I know this is an fm laptop discussion mate but I was hoping that if you had a couple of options, you may be able to point me in 1 direction based on the other things I am looking for.

I will use the laptop for general internet browsing, excel, word, fm and maybe a little go pro/photo editing (I'm not very good). 

Sorry I've made it such a long read and thank you in advance for your help! 

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6 hours ago, Taaxxi said:

Hi Smurf, 

Hoping you can help. I've been playing fm for a long time and have looked on and off for an upgrade for a few years but never really know where to start. Ideally I would like something decent that I will be able to use for a good number of years to justify the cost although hard to predict future specs... 

Main things for me are (laptop, windows); 

Doesn't get to hot, especially as I sit and have on my lap a lot. Maybe vents on keyboard is beneficial?

Quiet, with long battery life (10hrs?)

I would like to play on a large database with a lot of countries without the game taking an age to progress and without the laptop heating up as it cannot cope.

Playing in 3D would be nice as I dont usually do this but not completely essential. 

Decent memory to store videos etc from the go pro/camera.

Budget: £1400 tops. Ideally £800-1200. 

I know this is an fm laptop discussion mate but I was hoping that if you had a couple of options, you may be able to point me in 1 direction based on the other things I am looking for.

I will use the laptop for general internet browsing, excel, word, fm and maybe a little go pro/photo editing (I'm not very good). 

Sorry I've made it such a long read and thank you in advance for your help! 

How about this 

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/7KC58EAABU-HP-OMEN-15-dh0003na_2614940.html

 

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Which would be better for FM:

 

i5-8250u or a i3-8130u

 

I know the 8250 is better overall but runs at 1.6 whereas the 8130 base is 2.2

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6 hours ago, Smurf said:

Hi Smurf, 

Looks good. Is there anything for maybe £200-300 more that meets the requirements and has longer battery life? 

I only say this as I like to use the laptop when I travel on the train and by air for long haul. 

Also, is there anything that the laptop above doesn't do v what I said I'd like mate? I'm not very tech savvy in that regard. So any help is much appreciated. 

I don't really want to spend that much but if it's going to last, I'd rather pay a little more and meet all the requirements! 

Finally, I know you can't predict but do you have a guess of how big a database I could potentially run on the above? And also on the other suggestion (if you have one) 

Thanks for all your help, I really appreciate it! 

 

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On 09/08/2019 at 20:28, DGMGandy said:

I was talking to my younger brother tonight and now considering buying him a rig for his birthday/Christmas.
I'm looking to spend about $600 AUD but not completely sure if I can find value for what he wants within that budget.

He wants to run Adobe to edit videos for school, and use it to edit/upload his Fortnite videos. I'd also say some medium/heavy gaming too.

http://www.comwiz.net.au/#systems - These are a little out of my price range, I don't like him THAT much, though I have used them before and quite liked the rig I bought off them eight or so years ago (since replaced).

 

On 09/08/2019 at 23:58, Smurf said:

is it a desktop or a laptop?

The cheapest one on that page is $1000+ and your budget is $600? Can you point to other laptop/electrical/online stores in your area?

There's a few at that price range quoted above - have a browse through those.

He wants a desktop. I'm not sure what computer shops are local, I was recommended the above by a work colleague.

Is it worth buying a desktop online? I don't care about accessories as he can sort them out himself.

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