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6 minutes ago, Smurf said:

Yeh I wouldn't go for that one. 

What is your budget again?

My budget was anywhere up to £700 tbh, so the two here, that you've mentioned previously, are well within my scope:

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/N580GD-DM230T-Asus-VivoBook-Pro-15-N580GD-DM230T_2358244.html

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX504GD-E41275T-ASUS-TUF-Gaming-FX504GD-E41275T_2458989.html 

However...if you can find anything being sold by Currys that comes close to these with the £700, please do let me know! :)

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8 minutes ago, ScottT87 said:

My budget was anywhere up to £700 tbh, so the two here, that you've mentioned previously, are well within my scope:

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/N580GD-DM230T-Asus-VivoBook-Pro-15-N580GD-DM230T_2358244.html

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX504GD-E41275T-ASUS-TUF-Gaming-FX504GD-E41275T_2458989.html 

However...if you can find anything being sold by Currys that comes close to these with the £700, please do let me know! :)

In terms of performance for FM they will both be roughly the same. There's a slight advantage in the i7-8750h - but if you wanted to save a few pound the the i5-8300H is a good bet and would be similar enough performance wise. 

Overall the i7 is better though for general things. 

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40 minutes ago, Smurf said:

In terms of performance for FM they will both be roughly the same. There's a slight advantage in the i7-8750h - but if you wanted to save a few pound the the i5-8300H is a good bet and would be similar enough performance wise. 

Overall the i7 is better though for general things. 

 

50 minutes ago, ScottT87 said:

My budget was anywhere up to £700 tbh, so the two here, that you've mentioned previously, are well within my scope:

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/N580GD-DM230T-Asus-VivoBook-Pro-15-N580GD-DM230T_2358244.html

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX504GD-E41275T-ASUS-TUF-Gaming-FX504GD-E41275T_2458989.html 

However...if you can find anything being sold by Currys that comes close to these with the £700, please do let me know! :)

As Smurf said, they're fairly compatible in terms of FM performance, but if you wanted to play other games too, I'd go with the i7 - it has more hard-drive space, and a better graphics card, alongside the better processor for games that utilise multi-core processors more than FM does.

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10 minutes ago, JordanMillward_1 said:

 

As Smurf said, they're fairly compatible in terms of FM performance, but if you wanted to play other games too, I'd go with the i7 - it has more hard-drive space, and a better graphics card, alongside the better processor for games that utilise multi-core processors more than FM does.

To be honest, the only other game that will likely get played is The Sims, and that's only if my partner decides she wants to have a go...which she hasn't in the five years we've been together ha! It will mostly be used (aside from FM) for web browsing, Youtube, Sky Go, Netflix and the like. Dabble in the odd document on Word as well. The i5 should handle all of that shouldn't it?

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3 hours ago, ScottT87 said:

To be honest, the only other game that will likely get played is The Sims, and that's only if my partner decides she wants to have a go...which she hasn't in the five years we've been together ha! It will mostly be used (aside from FM) for web browsing, Youtube, Sky Go, Netflix and the like. Dabble in the odd document on Word as well. The i5 should handle all of that shouldn't it?

Yes it would be absolutely fine. 

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Hi Smurf

i have a budget of £500 and would like to play around eight leagues from four nations. Ideally with 4.5 - 5 * stars. 

I play in 2d only so don’t care about graphics card. 

Is this realistic or will I have to increase my budget or decrease leagues?

thank you!

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2 hours ago, WiseRegista said:

If I stretched to £600 is there a better laptop I can get (not interested in graphics card) or is this the best in the price range if >£600?

Nope.

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Hard to read through 19 pages of posts, especially because I haven't bought a laptop in at least five years AND I've never played FM. My requirements:

* Price is not a barrier, up to a point.

* 3D is purely optional for me, but I want the text graphics to be as large, clear, and readable as possible.

* I would like to make it as feature-rich as possible (number of leagues, etc.), except for 3D.

* As lightweight as possible.

Looking forward to your recommendations. I'm in the US, so use dollars if possible.

 

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On 10/04/2019 at 15:33, Smurf said:

Hiya Smurf,

Been keeping an eye on this thread for a while and on your recommendation I've taken the plunge on this one. My current laptop has an Intel i7 5500U... it'll blow that out the water, won't it?

 

Thanks mate.

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Hi. I am currently rocking a late 2013 iMac (3.4 Ghz Intel Course i5, 8GB 1600 Mhz DDR3, GTx 775m 2 GB) but will be making the move back to a Windows machine. My two main activities these days are using MS Office and playing FM 2019 (I used to do more creative stuff so the iMac had a use previously but not any more). Part of the reason for this change is because FM2019 doesnt do the full graphics settings on this machine and I want that back. 

Budget is circa €800 but I do need to buy a monitor as well so was looking at building my own. So this is my machine spec:

AMD Ryzen 5 2400G with AMD Radeon RX Vega 11

Asus Prime B450M-A

2 x Kingston ValueRAM 4GB - PC4-21300 - DIMM

Kingston A400 M.2 - 240 GB to be the boot/os drive. 



Is this a good balance of parts / performance for my overall budget? With a view for easier upgrading in the future (can add more Ram and a Graphics card a few months down the line. 

Thanks in advance. 

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10 hours ago, Mario Gori said:

Hard to read through 19 pages of posts, especially because I haven't bought a laptop in at least five years AND I've never played FM. My requirements:

* Price is not a barrier, up to a point.

* 3D is purely optional for me, but I want the text graphics to be as large, clear, and readable as possible.

* I would like to make it as feature-rich as possible (number of leagues, etc.), except for 3D.

* As lightweight as possible.

Looking forward to your recommendations. I'm in the US, so use dollars if possible.

 

It's great to say that the budget is limitless - but is it really? I know you're in the US - but specs like this cost more

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/AERO-15-X9-9UK4410P-Gigabyte-AERO-15-X9-9UK4410P_2472969.html

Or this one

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/20MD0001UK-Lenovo-ThinkPad-P1_2400729.html

In terms of budgets what are we talking about?

1 hour ago, 7. Shevchenko said:

Hiya Smurf,

Been keeping an eye on this thread for a while and on your recommendation I've taken the plunge on this one. My current laptop has an Intel i7 5500U... it'll blow that out the water, won't it?

 

Thanks mate.

Good luck!

1 hour ago, dublindiem said:

Hi. I am currently rocking a late 2013 iMac (3.4 Ghz Intel Course i5, 8GB 1600 Mhz DDR3, GTx 775m 2 GB) but will be making the move back to a Windows machine. My two main activities these days are using MS Office and playing FM 2019 (I used to do more creative stuff so the iMac had a use previously but not any more). Part of the reason for this change is because FM2019 doesnt do the full graphics settings on this machine and I want that back. 

Budget is circa €800 but I do need to buy a monitor as well so was looking at building my own. So this is my machine spec:

AMD Ryzen 5 2400G with AMD Radeon RX Vega 11

Asus Prime B450M-A

2 x Kingston ValueRAM 4GB - PC4-21300 - DIMM

Kingston A400 M.2 - 240 GB to be the boot/os drive. 


Is this a good balance of parts / performance for my overall budget? With a view for easier upgrading in the future (can add more Ram and a Graphics card a few months down the line. 

Thanks in advance. 

Yeh it's decent enough.

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6 hours ago, Smurf said:

It's great to say that the budget is limitless - but is it really? I know you're in the US - but specs like this cost more

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/AERO-15-X9-9UK4410P-Gigabyte-AERO-15-X9-9UK4410P_2472969.html

Or this one

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/20MD0001UK-Lenovo-ThinkPad-P1_2400729.html

In terms of budgets what are we talking about?

Those are pricey indeed. I thought electronics was a decreasing-cost industry, LOL. Looks like that Lenovo translates to about 1800 USD, but I see 1700 on a few US sites. If you don't mind, what are the best options for my criteria in the $1200-$1500 (929£-1161£) range?

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16 hours ago, Mario Gori said:

Those are pricey indeed. I thought electronics was a decreasing-cost industry, LOL. Looks like that Lenovo translates to about 1800 USD, but I see 1700 on a few US sites. If you don't mind, what are the best options for my criteria in the $1200-$1500 (929£-1161£) range?

Truly, thin & light with extra power in the battery for traveling/unplugged playing - this is what you're looking at

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/20MD0001UK-Lenovo-ThinkPad-P1_2400729.html

 

If you want just light weight at it's chepaest then something like this

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/N580GD-DM230T-Asus-VivoBook-Pro-15-N580GD-DM230T_2358244.html

 

Bear in mind this is more expensive but roughly the same (in terms of FM)

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16R112-255-MSI-GF63-8RC-255UK_2410406.html

 

Again - more expensive but similar specs

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16R112-254-MSI-GF63-8RD-254UK_2410405.html

 

I'd go for the cheaper one - similar specs - and it's only 19mm deep and weighs about 2kg. 

Battery power is about 4 hours without being plugged in, but for FM that may reduce to 2-3 hours use.

 

 

 

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15 hours ago, Mario Gori said:

Thanks a lot, Smurf. I really do appreciate it.

Don't forget the Lenovo one I pointed you to - the most expensive one is 1.7kg and has a 13-14 hour battery life - which is huge. 

If the battery is important I wouldn't skimp.

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17 minutes ago, dannyrefc said:

Large DB could mean large database for 1 division only running (like England and only Premier League loaded). Then yes definitely.

Or it could mean every league and division in the world with a large database. Then probably not.

On that note - it's not possible to tell. As per the opening post, it is ambiguous to guess how well a game will run based off the specs, it's not just the processor, ram and graphics card, there are intermediate components that can cause bottlenecks, etc. 

On that note - it's a good machine and should cope well.

It also comes with the monitor, which makes it very attractive.

Hope that helps.

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Thanks smurf,  it was either that or the BP omen for an extra 600 but if the one I linked would perform well I will go for that

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30 minutes ago, dannyrefc said:

https://www.littlewoods.com/hp-omen-875-0009na-intel-core-i7-8gb-ram-2tb-hard-drive-128gb-ssd-nvidia-gef-gtx1060-3gb-graphics-desktop-black/1600351224.prd

This is the other one smurf obviously probably better but if it's over kill for just FM compared to the zoostorm then I'd go for that

Let me know thanks

For comparison, the HP comes out on top by a country mile.

But I don't think the HP is coming with the monitor?

Processor

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Graphics Card

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Can you do better?

The processor and graphics card and more ram is better here https://www.box.co.uk/Stormforce-Crystal-Desktop-Gaming-PC_2335149.html

This is also better than the others and similar to the one above https://www.box.co.uk/Cube-Type-Eagle-RGB_2409049.html?config=2303268,2335985,2423824,2464098

 

On the cheaper end

Can't see any better than what you're getting (plus you will get a free monitor).

 

 

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Apologies - I had laptop components there

Processor

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Graphics card

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Hey, I’ve been browsing through this trying to see if I can make sense of some of it as I don’t fully understand computer specs... 

 

i have a budget of £800 (900 tops) ideally and would like to run around 8 nations with all leagues loaded, id like to use 3D more (was using 2d previously) and I generally like to get deep into a career and have a large pool of players to scout through. 

 I’ve found some recommendations in here but I don’t really know what would be best for what I need. Anything would be better than the potato I was running on as it didn’t meet the minimum specs for fm19 as it was! 

 

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/dell-g3-15-15-6-intel-core-i7-gtx-1050-ti-gaming-laptop-1-tb-hdd-128-gb-ssd-10182914-pdt.html# 

I just found this one in my local store, a bit above my budget ... but would the extra be worth it? 

 

https://www.box.co.uk/FX504GM-EN150T-ASUS-FX504GM-EN150T_2344467.html

again a little above my budget but again would the extra be worth it? 

 

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX504GD-E41275T-ASUS-TUF-Gaming-FX504GD-E41275T_2458989.html#DetailTop

i see this one hs a 16gb ram one Available, but with only 256gb sdd and lesser graphics and generally being not as high spec as the others would this one come Anywhere near suiting what I desired or would it start to struggle after getting deep into a career? 

 

Or or is there anything else within budget that would be suitable? I’ve tried to get s good sense from reading the thread and nearly ordered one from some recommendations but just wanted to see if you could give me a quick pointer please?

 

many thanks 

Oh I would mainly be using it for fm, but potentially some other games if I could drag myself from fm, but I’m buying a laptop predominately for fm

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16 minutes ago, Tomafu said:

Hey, I’ve been browsing through this trying to see if I can make sense of some of it as I don’t fully understand computer specs... 

 

i have a budget of £800 (900 tops) ideally and would like to run around 8 nations with all leagues loaded, id like to use 3D more (was using 2d previously) and I generally like to get deep into a career and have a large pool of players to scout through. 

 I’ve found some recommendations in here but I don’t really know what would be best for what I need. Anything would be better than the potato I was running on as it didn’t meet the minimum specs for fm19 as it was! 

 

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/dell-g3-15-15-6-intel-core-i7-gtx-1050-ti-gaming-laptop-1-tb-hdd-128-gb-ssd-10182914-pdt.html# 

I just found this one in my local store, a bit above my budget ... but would the extra be worth it? 

 

https://www.box.co.uk/FX504GM-EN150T-ASUS-FX504GM-EN150T_2344467.html

again a little above my budget but again would the extra be worth it? 

 

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX504GD-E41275T-ASUS-TUF-Gaming-FX504GD-E41275T_2458989.html#DetailTop

i see this one hs a 16gb ram one Available, but with only 256gb sdd and lesser graphics and generally being not as high spec as the others would this one come Anywhere near suiting what I desired or would it start to struggle after getting deep into a career? 

 

Or or is there anything else within budget that would be suitable? I’ve tried to get s good sense from reading the thread and nearly ordered one from some recommendations but just wanted to see if you could give me a quick pointer please?

 

many thanks 

Oh I would mainly be using it for fm, but potentially some other games if I could drag myself from fm, but I’m buying a laptop predominately for fm

The middle one would be the best. 

 

However, there is another option and I believe this would be good too https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX504GD-E4127-ASUS-TUF-Gaming-FX504GD-E4127_2571126.html

 

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Let me refine for you, I'm thinking now to just have my own desktop built. 

I would be looking for all the main European leagues loaded, South American players and Asian, probs 10-15 playable, I prefer a quick processing time and good 3d graphics

My budget is 2k but I think going for top of range may be overkill. 

What processor and gpu easily surpass my needs and future proof me for a while.  Thanks

 

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1 hour ago, dannyrefc said:

Let me refine for you, I'm thinking now to just have my own desktop built. 

I would be looking for all the main European leagues loaded, South American players and Asian, probs 10-15 playable, I prefer a quick processing time and good 3d graphics

My budget is 2k but I think going for top of range may be overkill. 

What processor and gpu easily surpass my needs and future proof me for a while.  Thanks

As per opening post - there is no way I could possibly know if a setup would run any amount of leagues or database size.

However.

On your slightly over max budget (no monitor)

Case
FRACTAL DEFINE S NANO GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 Eight Core Processor i9-9900K (3.6GHz) 16MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX Z390-I GAMING: Mini-ITX, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2666MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2080 - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W VS SERIES™ VS-650 POWER SUPPLY
Processor Cooling
Noctua NH-C14S Ultra Quiet Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
COOLER MASTER MASTERGEL MAKER THERMAL COMPOUND
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 7 to 9 working days

Price: £2,035.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-sff-gaming/fRzdnfgRJN/

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Hey @Smurf ! Would be great if you could help.

Is it possible to run FM19 with all nations and leagues on a Laptop and for it to run at a sensible playable speed?

Im in the market for a laptop with a max Budget of 1000

Important features for me are build quality, battery life, sharp display 15inch display, portable.

Any help would be really appreciated. 

T

 

p.s just found this and with the bank holiday deal it’s under 1000. https://m.dell.com/h5/m/r/outlet.euro.dell.com/Online/SecondaryInventorySearch.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukdfh1&l=en&s=dfh&sign=PXhcOSHtr1T4IOw%2fPR7UdW8KBNMeRqMCSpzxhdLG5kJv7Zb3uV1WHVN5AKtao8XnJIMWjtzOb4jd8z74AjuTp0TpkY3xxEvS0QBku5HibGh%2fjU4yUrZ8HdvFMjYon7BNKbRzbSSgGWzpzI9%2fvr7x%2fevpX0h%2ffQ5YaHjEVjrlo1WXBpswywnJF9NsT2uJ8g4b%2b4QC3c8nW71M9poc0KpWMJKKDASoFJk7nPNy0YdwKkv%2bag27zWOnFJuKmbuQ0MTz

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16 hours ago, Tommy_S said:

Hey @Smurf ! Would be great if you could help.

Is it possible to run FM19 with all nations and leagues on a Laptop and for it to run at a sensible playable speed?

Im in the market for a laptop with a max Budget of 1000

No.

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9 hours ago, Smurf said:

You're linking to refurbished laptops and they are last years models, older computers. 

This is better than the anything you have shown me.

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX504GD-DM127-ASUS-FX504GD-DM1276T_2571278.html

If you want a bit more oomph

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX504GD-E4127-ASUS-TUF-Gaming-FX504GD-E4127_2571126.html

If you want a bit more graphics to play with

Best for battery: https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/5WA67EAABU-HP-Pavilion-Gaming-15-cx0018na_2453614.html

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX504GM-EN150T16-ASUS-FX504GM-EN150T_2392223.html

 

 

 

Ok I agree Asus TUF but how about the FX505? I prefer the slim bezels but is the processor as good as the FX504 you suggested?https://uk.store.asus.com/asus-tuf-gaming-fx505dy-bq001t-15-6-full-hd-slim-bezel-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-r5-3550h-quad-core-processor-8gb-ram-128gb-ssd-1tb-hdd-amd-radeon-rx-560x-4gb-graphics.html

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40 minutes ago, Tommy_S said:

There's links in the opening posts on how to compare graphics and processors. 

 

I've done it for you here - as you can see the processor and the graphics card are superior. 

The higher on the list the better.

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graphics.thumb.PNG.b58c60b78820f210fcaed2c59572f3d3.PNG

 

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Morning folks. After months and months of searching i think i am finally ready to take the plunge. Taking a laptop on finance so can stretch to around a grand. Found this one this morning but just thought i would share on here to see if anyone knows of anything better. Cheers! https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/msi-gp73-leopard-8re-core-i7-8750h-8gb-1tb-128gb-ssd-geforce-gtx-1060-17.-9s7-17c522-062/version.asp

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Hi, I’ve not got much knowledge on laptops. Been playing football manager for years and my laptop is so slow the game take forever to play. So decided to treat myself to a new laptop. I’ve got a budget of £400-£500. Which I know is low end. Any recommendations on what laptop to buy? Mainly being used for fm and will need it for the internet and word document. Cheers 

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2 hours ago, gar23 said:

Morning folks. After months and months of searching i think i am finally ready to take the plunge. Taking a laptop on finance so can stretch to around a grand. Found this one this morning but just thought i would share on here to see if anyone knows of anything better. Cheers! https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/msi-gp73-leopard-8re-core-i7-8750h-8gb-1tb-128gb-ssd-geforce-gtx-1060-17.-9s7-17c522-062/version.asp

This but it's 15 inch

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/5WA67EAABU-HP-Pavilion-Gaming-15-cx0018na_2453614.html

More ram.

1 hour ago, Fuzzy79 said:

Hi, I’ve not got much knowledge on laptops. Been playing football manager for years and my laptop is so slow the game take forever to play. So decided to treat myself to a new laptop. I’ve got a budget of £400-£500. Which I know is low end. Any recommendations on what laptop to buy? Mainly being used for fm and will need it for the internet and word document. Cheers 

I know this is out of your price range - but you should consider it if you can find the extra cash.

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX504GD-DM127-ASUS-FX504GD-DM1276T_2571278.html

Other than that found this in clearance - open box grade A

https://www.box.co.uk/Open-Box-MSI-Prestige-PL62-7RC-068UK-i_2307478.html

 

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Not for FM, but wanted to buy the lad a first laptop to do school work using windows 10. PC World have laptops in there for under £200 which is really my max spend (he's 8) but they only come with 32Gb HD which will be half full with Windows and a couple of updates. Is there anything out there for a similar price with a bigger hard drive?

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1 hour ago, kccircle said:

Not for FM, but wanted to buy the lad a first laptop to do school work using windows 10. PC World have laptops in there for under £200 which is really my max spend (he's 8) but they only come with 32Gb HD which will be half full with Windows and a couple of updates. Is there anything out there for a similar price with a bigger hard drive?

Would this be too much of a stretch?

http://www.cheaplaptopcompany.co.uk/buy-refurbished-laptops/refurbished-hp-840-g1-8gb?sort=p.price&order=ASC

 

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Hi.

I appreciate I might be asking the same questions as other people, and I have genuinely read through the last 4 pages so apologies if I missed some great advice. (as a side note, maybe it's possible for some tech whiz to make a page on this forum where you select your priorities, i.e., portability, performance, etc etc, and then it makes a few recommendations?).

 

Anyway, my details: Budget is £1,200. It'll be mostly (95%) of the time plugged in, on a desk, so battery life and portability aren't a factor. 17 inch would be good, but not essential. Apart from FM (obviously, I'd like that to run as quickly as possible, and I normally play 4/5 countries), I do a lot of Excel macros with pretty big data sets, Visio diagrams, video converting, and an occasional bit of SQL Server queries on reasonably large data sets. I'm going to guess that the processor will be a key one for me. I don't do any other gaming of any kind apart from FM - if I do start, it'll be strategy based games like FM (I have a XBox for "proper" games requiring a controller - any games on the laptop will be point-and-click stuff like FM, so I'm guessing the graphics requirements are relatively low).

If anyone has any recommendations, I'd love to hear them.

Thanks. 

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11 hours ago, DamianJMcGrath said:

Hi.

I appreciate I might be asking the same questions as other people, and I have genuinely read through the last 4 pages so apologies if I missed some great advice. (as a side note, maybe it's possible for some tech whiz to make a page on this forum where you select your priorities, i.e., portability, performance, etc etc, and then it makes a few recommendations?).

 

Anyway, my details: Budget is £1,200. It'll be mostly (95%) of the time plugged in, on a desk, so battery life and portability aren't a factor. 17 inch would be good, but not essential. Apart from FM (obviously, I'd like that to run as quickly as possible, and I normally play 4/5 countries), I do a lot of Excel macros with pretty big data sets, Visio diagrams, video converting, and an occasional bit of SQL Server queries on reasonably large data sets. I'm going to guess that the processor will be a key one for me. I don't do any other gaming of any kind apart from FM - if I do start, it'll be strategy based games like FM (I have a XBox for "proper" games requiring a controller - any games on the laptop will be point-and-click stuff like FM, so I'm guessing the graphics requirements are relatively low).

If anyone has any recommendations, I'd love to hear them.

Thanks. 

In response to the first paragraph: FM is a different game to most other games. So selecting priorities based on performance for FM vs Call of Duty the performance criteria's would be completely different in terms of the 3 main ingredients, Processor, Graphics, and RAM.

There is no magic formula. There are computers that are priced at £1000 and in one case it would be perfect for FM and another case it would be perfect for Call of Duty. But one wouldn't be fit for the other.

For a laptop in your price range.

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX705GM-EV101T-ASUS-FX705GM-EV101T_2400287.html

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2 hours ago, Smurf said:

In response to the first paragraph: FM is a different game to most other games. So selecting priorities based on performance for FM vs Call of Duty the performance criteria's would be completely different in terms of the 3 main ingredients, Processor, Graphics, and RAM.

There is no magic formula. There are computers that are priced at £1000 and in one case it would be perfect for FM and another case it would be perfect for Call of Duty. But one wouldn't be fit for the other.

For a laptop in your price range.

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX705GM-EV101T-ASUS-FX705GM-EV101T_2400287.html

Thank you for the recommendation. The specs of that laptop look good. In my limited knowledge, I'm going to ask two silly questions.

1. Does it matter that the hard drive is 5400rpm? I'm sure I've seen some in the 7000s which I'd assume is better? 

 

2. Are desktops better than laptops when it comes to getting high specs cheaper? A 17 inch laptop isn't very portable which I don't care about, but I guess it raises the question - do I even need a laptop? Are desktops and laptops the same when it comes to specs vs price? 

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21 minutes ago, DamianJMcGrath said:

Thank you for the recommendation. The specs of that laptop look good. In my limited knowledge, I'm going to ask two silly questions.

1. Does it matter that the hard drive is 5400rpm? I'm sure I've seen some in the 7000s which I'd assume is better? 

 

2. Are desktops better than laptops when it comes to getting high specs cheaper? A 17 inch laptop isn't very portable which I don't care about, but I guess it raises the question - do I even need a laptop? Are desktops and laptops the same when it comes to specs vs price? 

1.  If saving your game to the Hard Drive it may just take a tiny bit longer than saving it to the SSD. You've got a SSD with 256gb which should be plenty for the operating system, which will give you fast boot up times, and overall computer performance. And you install the game on the HD of the 5400 RPM, which has limited impact on the performance - and you can save your game file to the SSD. However, it wouldn't be any harm installing the game on the SSD at all. As you should have plenty of space. 

You may run out of space on the SSD - so I would recommend setting your files to download to the 5400rpm drive, and you can backup photos, files etc to this drive and use the SSD as your main drive. 

If I was you, I'd put the game on the SSD and save the 1 game file to this location also. Then if you start a new game, backup game files to the other hard drive. 

 

Yes you can get spin speeds of 7000+rpm or even 10000rpm - but the difference is minimal in my opinion. Yes, faster is better.

 

If it bothered you - you could always swap out the slower 5400RPM drive for a 2nd SSD drive, you can do this yourself quite easily, a lot of the time it does not void the warranty - but you would need to check that. If you are worried about voiding the warranty of the ability to do this yourself then a local computer store could copy the files and install the new disk for you. 

It's not that expensive. 

 

2. Desktops are more flexible, the parts are easily swapped out (except sometimes the processor as sometimes they are embedded in the motherboards. But upgrading RAM, drives and graphics cards is relatively easy. It's something I think everyone should be able to do. You could always take a basic computer course in this to get your confidence up, but it's quite simple really.

 

Desktops are cheaper - which makes them very attractive, and easily upgradeable, which is another great thing.

But you do have to usually purchase a monitor separately, however, reasonably good monitors are cheap enough these days.  Unless you buy an All-in-one - but then you lose the easy ability to upgrade the components in some cases as not all-in-ones are easy to upgrade. It's like a hybrid between laptop and desktop.

 

If you wanted a kickass desktop - then this is absolutely a steal - but keep in mind you need to buy a monitor on top it.

It does not come with a Graphics Card - but you could save and add it in later on - and it does not have a Wireless connection (you'd need to plug directly into your internet router).
https://www.box.co.uk/Cube-Fusion-Quiet_2500097.html?config=2336001,2343948,2423823,2464098,2478370,2499247

That desktop kicks the laptops ass in so many ways - but it's not ideal as it is not sporting a graphics card. 

It would run FM just fine but require the graphics on a lower setting. But if you're only playing with 2d setting or commentary only it would be fine. 

 

If we head back down to reality. We can take a look at desktops with the same specs as the laptop (if not better).

This has a great graphics card - and a decent processor
https://www.box.co.uk/Cube-Gauntlet_2477545.html?config=2335985,2427199,2464097,2472017,2478369,2482818

 

This has a slightly (very slightly) lesser graphics card - but has a decent processor also - the price is great as it allows room for a Monitor!
https://www.box.co.uk/Cube-Type-Sparrow_2567923.html?config=2335882,2335908,2464097,2473247

This is a very processor and same graphics card as above. The processor is good for FM.
https://www.box.co.uk/Box-Gaming-PC_2232977.html?config=2344682,2472019,2473247

If you want to hit your budget - great processor (same graphics as above)
https://www.box.co.uk/Cube-Type-Falcon-V3_2424478.html?config=2335908,2423835,2464098,2473247

Again - excellent processor - and top end graphics card
https://www.box.co.uk/Box-Extreme-Gaming-PC_2385803.html

Again - very good processor - and top end graphics card (slightly less than above)
https://www.box.co.uk/MSI-Trident-3-8RC-093UK-Compact-Gaming-P_2409451.html

Again - heading down the list in processors and graphics card availability
https://www.box.co.uk/Lenovo-Legion-C530-Cube-Gaming-PC_2347491.html

 

Now - if I had a budget of £1,200 - this is what I would go for (no monitor)

If I was concentrating on graphics and perhaps playing other games - but still a good processor
https://www.box.co.uk/Cube-Type-Sparrow_2567923.html?config=2335883,2335908,2464098,2473247

If I wanted FM only - best experience with processor (important for FM) graphics least important (add graphics card later)
https://www.box.co.uk/Cube-Type-Falcon-V3_2424478.html?config=2335908,2423823,2453603,2464098

There's also this (think I linked to it already)
https://www.box.co.uk/Cube-Type-Hawk-v3_2446741.html?config=2303268,2335908,2464098,2482818

 

This also looks like a great option
https://www.box.co.uk/Cube-Type-Falcon-V3_2424478.html?config=2303271,2335908,2423835,2464098

 

Ok - that's research done. 

I'd just build a custom PC here (Section 6 you can customise your items for browser preference, etc.)

Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i5 Six Core Processor i5-9600K (3.7 GHz) 9 MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF Z370-PLUS GAMING II: ATX, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2666MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1660 Ti - HDMI, DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W)
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H60 2018 Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
COOLER MASTER MASTERGEL MAKER THERMAL COMPOUND
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
Price: £1,168.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.ie/saved-configurations/intel-z370-pc/eYn75SUcud/

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10 hours ago, Smurf said:

In response to the first paragraph: FM is a different game to most other games. So selecting priorities based on performance for FM vs Call of Duty the performance criteria's would be completely different in terms of the 3 main ingredients, Processor, Graphics, and RAM.

There is no magic formula. There are computers that are priced at £1000 and in one case it would be perfect for FM and another case it would be perfect for Call of Duty. But one wouldn't be fit for the other.

For a laptop in your price range.

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX705GM-EV101T-ASUS-FX705GM-EV101T_2400287.html

Just FYI, I think the laptop you linked to is cheaper on Amazon

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-FX705GM-EV101T-Bezel-Gaming-Laptop/dp/B07HH5XR8K

 

Although in one of the reviews, it says: You have to plug it into the wall to use it unless you don't mind the CPU being restricted to 1GHz across all threads

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42 minutes ago, DamianJMcGrath said:

Just FYI, I think the laptop you linked to is cheaper on Amazon

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-FX705GM-EV101T-Bezel-Gaming-Laptop/dp/B07HH5XR8K

 

Although in one of the reviews, it says: You have to plug it into the wall to use it unless you don't mind the CPU being restricted to 1GHz across all threads

They're talking non-sense. You have different performance methods for the battery when not plugged in, depends on your preferences.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/customize/desktop/customize-power-slider

Good find by the way. 

I never mind for anyone to buy from Save On Laptop, I just find it the easiest to navigate. It's only a guideline - and to find something similar for cheaper if you can. 

Nice find.

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https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/30025003-Medion-Akoya-P6685-Gaming-Laptop_2431522.html#DetailTop

hiya! Been looking to get footy manager for a few months now and just come across this laptop and I’m not looking to blow a lot of money although I could stretch to a little more, Im not expecting to load every league going and 3D isn’t that important seeing as i used to Love playing 2D, I just wondered if this laptop would be any good? Much appreciated any help

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1 hour ago, JamoWelsh11 said:

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/30025003-Medion-Akoya-P6685-Gaming-Laptop_2431522.html#DetailTop

hiya! Been looking to get footy manager for a few months now and just come across this laptop and I’m not looking to blow a lot of money although I could stretch to a little more, Im not expecting to load every league going and 3D isn’t that important seeing as i used to Love playing 2D, I just wondered if this laptop would be any good? Much appreciated any help

Not too bad. Medion in my opinion are not great. Everything a bit plastically. But that was years and years ago.

What is the actual budget?

This in your range?

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX504GD-DM127-ASUS-FX504GD-DM1276T_2571278.html

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10 minutes ago, Smurf said:

Not too bad. Medion in my opinion are not great. Everything a bit plastically. But that was years and years ago.

What is the actual budget?

This in your range?

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX504GD-DM127-ASUS-FX504GD-DM1276T_2571278.html

I was thinking around £550-£600 so yeah I could stretch to that once payday comes around!

Would you say that the best on the market mate?

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12 hours ago, JamoWelsh11 said:

I was thinking around £550-£600 so yeah I could stretch to that once payday comes around!

Would you say that the best on the market mate?

Best at that budget I would imagine.

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Hey all, 

I've had my old laptop forever and need a new system but I'll be going desktop this time. I will be using it for general office stuff and just real basic nonsense but I also am wanting to spend more to ensure I am able to play with a juicy database in FM. Lol. 

 

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-inspiron-desktop-intel-core-i3-8gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive-black-with-silver-trim/6228202.p?skuId=6228202

 

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/acer-aspire-desktop-intel-core-i5-8gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive-black/6203001.p?skuId=6203001

 

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-510a-15icb-desktop-intel-core-i5-8gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive-black/6203016.p?skuId=6203016

 

Obviously the price varies on these but is going for the more expensive one going to provide a much bigger boost on the amount of nations and leagues I could run or is it likely to be negligible? 

I would love to play with a 10-15 nation database but I've been stuck on 3-4 for a few years now due to my crap laptop. 

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