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2 hours ago, Barry1983 said:

OK thanx you. Do you have any recommendations I can have a look at? I'm not very good at picking pcs. 

Not for £200-250, as anything good enough is going to be either a refurbish or 2nd hand, and whether any of them will be reliable is unknown. Normally the minimum I'd suggest for a solid laptop that'll run FM fairly well would be approx £600.

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7 minutes ago, JordanMillward_1 said:

Not for £200-250, as anything good enough is going to be either a refurbish or 2nd hand, and whether any of them will be reliable is unknown. Normally the minimum I'd suggest for a solid laptop that'll run FM fairly well would be approx £600.

What's your recommendations for £600?i can scrape that up so not a problem. Also it's got to be a desktop not a laptop

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43 minutes ago, Barry1983 said:

What's your recommendations for £600?i can scrape that up so not a problem. Also it's got to be a desktop not a laptop

Do you already have peripherals (monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc)?

If so, I'd go for something like this: https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/desktop-pcs/desktop-pcs/pc-specialist-tornado-r3-gaming-pc-amd-ryzen-3-rx-570-1-tb-hdd-120-gb-ssd-10195679-pdt.html

Has a decent processor, has both a decent sized hard-drive and a fast SSD for booting up and putting some games on, alright amount of RAM and a solid graphics card.

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6 minutes ago, Mr Tom said:

How many leagues can a Ryzen 3200g compared to a Ryzen 3400g???

We've said a few times in various ways there is no answer to this question.

Well a strict answer is the same, they can both physically run the same amount of leagues (all of them - whether the speed of that would be acceptable to you is another matter), the 3400 will do it faster (but we don't have any figures on that)

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Ryzen-3-3200G-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3400G/3497vs3498

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7 hours ago, EdL said:

We've said a few times in various ways there is no answer to this question.

Well a strict answer is the same, they can both physically run the same amount of leagues (all of them - whether the speed of that would be acceptable to you is another matter), the 3400 will do it faster (but we don't have any figures on that)

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Ryzen-3-3200G-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3400G/3497vs3498

Thanks.👍

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14 hours ago, Barry1983 said:

What's your recommendations for £600?i can scrape that up so not a problem. Also it's got to be a desktop not a laptop

Mate, the first PC you asked about is absolutely fine.

I was in a similar boat to you, I didn't want to spend more than £350 but everyone I seemed to ask for help mentioned spending more so I did, I spent £550 on one that I wasn't happy with before spending £700 at PCSpecialist for another I wasn't pleased with and had multiple faults.

Someone then mentioned to me about a refurbished Dell optiplex and I got one for £120 with 8gb ram, integrated graphics and a i5 3.3ghz processor and I'm far happier with that than any of the more expensive recommended purchases.

I run at least the top 2 divisions in England, Spain, Italy, Germany, France, Holland, Portugal & Scotland with a medium dB and the game has 4 stars and plays lovely.

The PC you linked for £159.50 is fine, you could maybe get something slightly better for a similar price but what you're looking at hits the mark for what you want 👍

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25 minutes ago, Hashtag_Orange said:

Mate, the first PC you asked about is absolutely fine.

I was in a similar boat to you, I didn't want to spend more than £350 but everyone I seemed to ask for help mentioned spending more so I did, I spent £550 on one that I wasn't happy with before spending £700 at PCSpecialist for another I wasn't pleased with and had multiple faults.

Someone then mentioned to me about a refurbished Dell optiplex and I got one for £120 with 8gb ram, integrated graphics and a i5 3.3ghz processor and I'm far happier with that than any of the more expensive recommended purchases.

I run at least the top 2 divisions in England, Spain, Italy, Germany, France, Holland, Portugal & Scotland with a medium dB and the game has 4 stars and plays lovely.

The PC you linked for £159.50 is fine, you could maybe get something slightly better for a similar price but what you're looking at hits the mark for what you want 👍

Thanx pal. Will shop around a bit. That computer was on ebay so there is a bit of concern there. 

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22 hours ago, JordanMillward_1 said:

Firstly, none of those images actually says what model/speed processor it has.

Secondly, I wouldn't go for it. It's a 2nd generation i5 processor, so regardless of the specific model, it's going to be approx 8 years old, and the graphics card is poor anyway. Even if it ran FM, I'd be dubious on how long it'd last without a hardware failure that puts you back to having to either get a new PC or trying to buy compatible parts to fix it.

What processors are best then. First gen 2nd gen or 3rd gen? Ain't got a clue about any of them

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1 hour ago, Barry1983 said:

What processors are best then. First gen 2nd gen or 3rd gen? Ain't got a clue about any of them

Well we're currently on 9th and 10th generation.

2nd gen is 8 years old - 3rd gen is about 7 years old etc. 

 

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27 minutes ago, Barry1983 said:

So anything from 5th generation upwards is better? 

It's not that it's better - it's not generally broken down like that - the opening post explains it with links to the list of processors to compare - generally higher up the list the better.

Some 5th gen processors could be "better" than a 6th or 7th gen.

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Due to everything going on ive had to cut my budget so any help would be awesome :)

Looking for a upgrade to my current laptop that doesn't have full 1080p, usually have about 25 leagues loaded with 8 countries, i currently have an i7 with intel 620hd graphics card so looking for a decent graphic card, 8gb ram, 17inch screen however if bumps price up loads would settle for 15.6 screen. decent resolution so i can download high res skins, i play games in 3d and will use the new laptop to play other games like sims etc my budget is now around £700/£800. Thanks in advance 

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4 hours ago, Barry1983 said:

Thanx pal. Will shop around a bit. That computer was on ebay so there is a bit of concern there. 

I had exactly the same concern even thinking Amazon was a safer bet however you're still initially protected either way, I did end up getting mine at eBay and couldn't be happier tbh.

It seems your budget has now doubled, maybe go over your finances again and see what you really can / want to spend? If you'd prefer it to be below £250 as you initially wanted then as I said you're looking along the right lines but if you're happy stretching the budget now then by all means go for something better 👍

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2 hours ago, Smurf said:

It's not that it's better - it's not generally broken down like that - the opening post explains it with links to the list of processors to compare - generally higher up the list the better.

Some 5th gen processors could be "better" than a 6th or 7th gen.

Think I'm going to go for this. Ticks all the boxes I think. 

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Hey guys, I am currently playing FM 2020 on my old laptop, and I've got to say I was shocked with the fact that the game runs significantly faster than my FM 18, and am using the same settings in game. Could it just be me? :idiot:

Anyhow, my new PC is about to come in next week, and I was wondering what kind of performance should I expect in terms of game speed? Like how many leagues can I play without game being slow, star rating etc.

If someone is playing on a similiar configuration some input would be greatly appreciated! Also, would it be possible to record the gameplay and matches smoothly with this set up? :)

 

Radeon RX 570 8GB

G.Skill Aegis 2x8GB 3200MHz

AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2/3.6GHz Boost

SSD

 

 

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23 minutes ago, HotDogManUK said:

What league and dB setup are you going to use when you play?

& What PC / laptop were you previously using for comparisons sake and were you happy with the speed your previous PC processed at?

I like to have alot of leagues selected so I can find the players and I always select medium or large database. As for my computer I have had it for nearly 6 years so it's a bit out of date haha. 

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4 hours ago, Barry1983 said:

What do you mean mate? 

I think he's comparing the PC you linked to what you're using and the PC you're using now is better than everything you've been looking at, any reason you can't use what you've got or upgrade that rather than get a new rig?

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Aye @Barry1983, with the picture of the PC you're using at the moment, all the PCs you've linked are a decent downgrade from the processor and RAM in your current PC. You'd literally be throwing money away going for any of those you've shared.

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2 hours ago, HotDogManUK said:

I think he's comparing the PC you linked to what you're using and the PC you're using now is better than everything you've been looking at, any reason you can't use what you've got or upgrade that rather than get a new rig?

It keeps going onto a blue screen every time I load it up.it boots up for max 10 minutes then crash dumps everytime

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20 minutes ago, Barry1983 said:

It keeps going onto a blue screen every time I load it up.it boots up for max 10 minutes then crash dumps everytime

You'd be far better off getting something cheap but new. A Ryzen 3 2200g/3200g for instance? That would give you a great upgrade path if you find it's not fast enough for you. The onboard graphics should be good enough for FM too. You should be able to find a prebuilt for $/£ 300 or so. A 3200g is about the same speed as your old rig.

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2 minutes ago, Gangor said:

You'd be far better off getting something cheap but new. A Ryzen 3 2200g/3200g for instance? That would give you a great upgrade path if you find it's not fast enough for you. The onboard graphics should be good enough for FM too. You should be able to find a prebuilt for $/£ 300 or so. A 3200g is about the same speed as your old rig.

Do you have any links to any mate.need all the help I can get.I'm useless with picking computers 

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On 28/03/2020 at 17:24, Smurf said:

cheers! How would this one compare to the 2 above? seen it in clearance  https://www.box.co.uk/(Open-Box)-Acer-Nitro-5_2928618.html 

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3 minutes ago, Barry1983 said:

Nottingham mate

Sorry Barry, easy to assume people are in the UK but we have many members from around the world also.

Here's a good starting point:

https://www.google.com/search?q=ryzen+3+3200g+8gb&tbm=shop

If you want something from a more known brand this isn't too bad:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-V55T-15API-11CC0009UK-Desktop-Windows-Black/dp/B0845NV1LL/

Don't be put off by the business pitching of many computers with this spec - the processors are capable and have integrated graphics suitable for FM. The Amazon link actually has the slightly more powerful 3400g processor which might run the 3D match engine a bit better. 

Another option would be to try a custom PC builder. One reason why you might do this is so you can specify a higher quality power supply (choose one 80+ rated) with a slightly higher power rating than otherwise required, to allow for an upgrade down the line. You could also choose a higher quality motherboard for the same reason (I'd suggest a B450) and a bit more RAM so having a bunch of browser tabs open in the background won't slow down FM. 

If you can afford to spend a bit more (£6-800?) you might consider going to a Ryzen 5 3600. This is significantly more powerful, but has no integrated graphics, so you also have to buy a video card. This might not be a bad thing because a discrete video card will likely be much more powerful than the integrated graphics from the 3200g or 3400g and would allow you to play other games at higher settings. 

Here's one I spec'd out on BOX:

https://www.box.co.uk/create-your-own-custom-pc?s=2716646,2369318,1963773,2140568,2869516,2647986,2834944 (nb no Windows licence)

Finally, if you're being adventurous, you might try building the PC yourself. It's not terribly complex, there's lots of guides on Youtube and it would pass an afternoon while stuck inside. Assuming you don't break anything this will save you a significant amount of money too. 

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Hi guys, new here and looking for advice on a new laptop. Iv narrowed it down to 2 so wondering which would be best but any other suggestions with a £500 budget would be appreciated. Thank you in advance 🙂

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/medion-akoya-p6645-core-i5-8265u-8gb-1tb-hdd-15.6-inch-geforce-mx-150-windo-30026121/version.asp

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/asus-vivobook-15-x512da-15-6-amd-ryzen-5-laptop-256-gb-ssd-grey-10195127-pdt.html

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does it often take a fairly long time (90mins, ironically) for FM20 to download onto a windows pc?

brand new £400 hp pavilion laptop, 4gb RAM etc - will this have enough computing power to cope with FM20 gaming?

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HI everyone. I have not played FM since 2016 where before that I had played it right back from CM and now amid everything going on there could be no better time than now to get back into it! Unfortunately I now only own a Chromebook which of course does not support Steam and a very old laptop which frankly can barely support FM nowadays. I am not looking to pay mass amounts of money for a new PC and really have a limit of about £400 but is that enough to find a good PC to support running FM? When a start new careers I always look to load every player possible to have the full experience and be able to have a wide scouting range going forward through the seasons. I would really appreciate any feedback and hope my budget can cover my needs :)

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Looking for a laptop, £500-£700 budget but willing to go slightly over. Ideally good enough to last for a few years (understanding that in three years time, i won't be able to load up as many players)

I only load up the English divisions (usually down to conference but would consider lower) but i do like a large database of players as I enjoy the scouting aspect.

Will only use it for Skype other than Football Manager, needs a decent built in website and be quiet as possible when using Skype.

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cheers john! must be laggy tinternet then :(

hoping the spec of my new machine copes ok! got it purely for fm20 really (just don't tell my mrs that) ha - stay safe john boy - buzzing to take Wycombe wanderers to the champions league 

Product name
HP Pavilion - 15-cs0040na
Microprocessor
Intel Pentium® Gold 4417U (2.3 GHz base frequency, 2 MB cache, 2 cores)
Memory, standard
4 GB DDR4-2133 SDRAM (1 x 4 GB)
Video graphics
Intel® HD Graphics 610
Hard drive
256 GB M.2 SSD
Optical drive
Optical drive not included
Display
39.6 cm (15.6") diagonal FHD SVA anti-glare micro-edge WLED-backlit, 220 nits, 45% NTSC (1920 x 1080)
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51 minutes ago, john1 said:

It depends on your internet speed more than anything.

And yes, it should be fine to cope :thup: 

hi john - once installed the internet speed wont affect the gameplay will it? cheers

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1 hour ago, Frosteeeh!!! said:

Looking for a laptop, £500-£700 budget but willing to go slightly over. Ideally good enough to last for a few years (understanding that in three years time, i won't be able to load up as many players)

What makes you say that?

https://www.box.co.uk/30027142-Medion-Erazer-P15601_2756373.html

https://www.box.co.uk/81LK010TUK-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Gaming-L340-15_2834990.html

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13 hours ago, bman said:

cheers john! must be laggy tinternet then :(

hoping the spec of my new machine copes ok! got it purely for fm20 really (just don't tell my mrs that) ha - stay safe john boy - buzzing to take Wycombe wanderers to the champions league 

Product name
HP Pavilion - 15-cs0040na
Microprocessor
Intel Pentium® Gold 4417U (2.3 GHz base frequency, 2 MB cache, 2 cores)
Memory, standard
4 GB DDR4-2133 SDRAM (1 x 4 GB)
Video graphics
Intel® HD Graphics 610
Hard drive
256 GB M.2 SSD
Optical drive
Optical drive not included
Display
39.6 cm (15.6") diagonal FHD SVA anti-glare micro-edge WLED-backlit, 220 nits, 45% NTSC (1920 x 1080)

Sorry man, but that is not a good PC for FM. The processor is barely above minimum requirements for power, and the processor is the most important part for running FM well as it's a processor intensive game. It'll run the game, but it won't manage it well at all.

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