jcp1417 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Something that has confused me for a while is why Vanarama south/north doesn't require me to register shirt numbers. A player's number will change almost every game depending on the position. Is that really realistic? using the editors, would I be able to make shirt number registration required for those leagues? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBI Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Yes, you can set this with the pre-game editor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcp1417 Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, KUBI said: Yes, you can set this with the pre-game editor. Would you be able to point me to what I would need to check/uncheck? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBI Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 vor 11 Minuten schrieb jcp1417: Would you be able to point me to what I would need to check/uncheck? You need to add nation rules, then convert to advanced rules and check the box for squad numbers in the competition tabs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcp1417 Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 in my editor it says team numbers. I selected that, saved it, loaded it, and did not work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanBrown Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 @jcp1417 You will have to load the new database when you start a new game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DP Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 By the way, it is realistic. There are not squad numbers for leagues below the conference. Sure, players may prefer certain numbers but the matches are played using 1-11 numbering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanMilly Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 hour ago, jcp1417 said: in my editor it says team numbers. I selected that, saved it, loaded it, and did not work It creates a new database you can select when you start a new save, you can't use the out-of-game editor to make changes to a current save. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcp1417 Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 2 hours ago, DP said: By the way, it is realistic. There are not squad numbers for leagues below the conference. Sure, players may prefer certain numbers but the matches are played using 1-11 numbering. So would multiple players share shirts depending on their number for the match? 1 hour ago, JordanMillward_1 said: It creates a new database you can select when you start a new save, you can't use the out-of-game editor to make changes to a current save. I know that, I did select my database and it didn't work when i created the new game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 For many decades, shirt numbers were 1-11 and were hanging on hooks in the dressing room and you wore the shirt that corresponded with the position you were selected for. Squad numbers changed that but if they are not required, 1-11 will be used. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcp1417 Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 hour ago, FrazT said: For many decades, shirt numbers were 1-11 and were hanging on hooks in the dressing room and you wore the shirt that corresponded with the position you were selected for. Squad numbers changed that but if they are not required, 1-11 will be used. so players share shirts or do they each have multiple shirts with different numbers on them depending on what position they're selected for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maaka Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, jcp1417 said: so players share shirts or do they each have multiple shirts with different numbers on them depending on what position they're selected for? The kit man collects all the shirts after the game, washes and dries them, and then, for the next match, they're handed out based on who's starting in what position.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcp1417 Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 Just now, Maaka said: The kit man collects all the shirts after the game, washes and dries them, and then, for the next match, they're handed out based on who's starting in what position.. interesting, I never knew this. In the US, jersey numbers have been individually assigned for almost 100 years in most sports. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maaka Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Just now, jcp1417 said: interesting, I never knew this. In the US, jersey numbers have been individually assigned for almost 100 years in most sports. In football in Europe, this is how it has been done for most of the past 130-140 years, except for the top leagues the past 20-25 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcp1417 Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 So does the national league N/S and below use the 1-11 system out of tradition? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maaka Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Depending on nation, it's 9 10 11 8 4 7 3 6 5 2 1 or 9 10 11 8 6 7 3 6 4 2 1 or 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 or 9 10 11 8 6 7 5 4 3 2 1 or simple variations of these Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Going back into the 50's and 60's: The full backs and were numbered 2 and 3 The single cente half back and was 5 numbers 4 and 6 were half backs number 7 was the right winger, 11 was the left winger numbers 8 and 10 were inside forwards number 9 was the centre forward Formation was often 2-3 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBI Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 or an early 4-4-2 2 4 5 3 7 6 8 11 9 10 11 and 10 could be vice versa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Having an individualised number along with your name on the shirt and swapping shirts after a game is really all about the modern commercialism of the higher levels. Down in the lower leagues. clubs don't have the cash to keep buying new shirts or changing kits every year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeewaj Q. Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 If you look at Vanarama North/South squad budgets, it's pretty clear that having shirts with names will result in bankruptcy before the end of the first season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vänsterback Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 My local club (swedish 4th tier) only have 22 shirts for the senior squad (numbered 1-22). However, there are more than 22 players in the squad, so the more established players have their assigned numbers, but should they miss a game, another player will use that shirt. I guess there are various degrees of numbering rigidity in different competitions. The Swedish FA does'nt seem to care anyway, so there are no rules. Even in our top division players have been switching numbers mid-season (when their desired number becomes available). There have been players using three-digit shirts as well. The year of my favourite club's 125th anniversary, our captain played in number 125. Currently, our second-choice keeper is out on loan, so the youngster now warming our bench simply borrows his shirt. In semi-pro and amateur football it's all down to finances. You buy a limited number of kits, and use them as much as possible. Even fully professional clubs may do so if there are no regulations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maaka Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Yeah, I remember seein three-digit shirts in Sweden, even in the top flight.. Regulations in Norway (and most other countries as well, and FIFA/UEFA) states that the numbers are one-digit 1-9 and two-digit 10-99 (meaning that even numbers like "0", "00", "01" and so on are illegal - in auto racing, especially in the US, one car can have #8 and another #08, or #0 and another #00). Regarding the 1-11 historical traditions, there were (afaik) no rules stating that #2 had to be the RB, but "common sense" said so. If the striker wanted to wear #5, he could (although he would've probably gotten a few stares).. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish kopite Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Throughout the 70s and 80s the only convention Liverpool complied with was no.1 for goalkeeper. For example, 5 and 11 were midfield numbers, 7 a forwards number. Even 9 often ended up being worn by a wide midfield player. If you played well and the team won (which was a lot more often that not) you stayed in the team and kept your number. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maaka Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Yeah, there have been a few anomalies through the years. https://www.squadnumbers.com/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardog Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 think even set squad numbers change fairly often. Ryan Kent on loan at rangers this year has a different squad number dependent on if hes playing domestically or in Europe for example. Think the standard is 1-18 and 1 and 12 being goalkeeper kits, 1-11 is starting 11 and 12-18 being the bench. At least in my understanding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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