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Just gone through my first pre season.

New signings: Ryan Tunnicliffe, Lawrence Shankland and Freddie Woodman in on loan.

Sold: Hegeler. Loaned out Eisa and Semenyo. Trying to sell Matty Taylor as well.

Have kept the same staff, although I have added 3 coaches - Billy Dodds, Sylwestrzak, Halabi and added a new European Scout - Gillhaus.

First league match will be against Forest. Will be disappointed if I don't get promoted with this team.

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Shankland is a good signing for the Championship.

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48 minutes ago, robterrace said:

Shankland is a good signing for the Championship.

Thanks, yeah I'm going to use him as a back up for Diedhiou. Only cost 180k, I think he'll be class if he can get his Acceleration and pace up a notch or two.

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Just added Xades as well. Had little choice as Paterson and Kasey Palmer both got injured. 

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Just catching up on these updates now. I'm still managing in Portugal, but during my pre-season break I've also been tempted to start what will probably be my last EFL save in FM19.



Formed in 1871, Reading are one of the oldest football league clubs in the world

Until the start of the 2018/19 season, the club had successfully (but narrowly) avoided relegation to League 1 in three out of the last four campaigns 

The exception to the above was 2016/17 when the club only missed out on promotion to the top flight by a PO Final loss to Huddersfield on penalties

Whilst it is now known that the 2018/19 season was another struggle against demotion, a raft of good quality loan signings in the winter kept them up

I've decided to take advantage of these signings to see what I can do at the club myself in the 2018/19 season

I have added a set of 'realism rules' to my challenge though, reflecting the real life FFP issues and soft transfer embargo the club now has

It's well known that the Chinese owners would put money in, but they won't risk penalties as the squad and wage bill is way too large

Every out of contract player was released in the summer and a whole host of other senior pros were excluded from the training camp in Spain

Whilst only a small number of players have left so far, I have decided to demote every one of them to the U23 squad as I try to sell or loan them out

This drastically reduced the pool of players available to me, but to balance this off, I have kept the loan players that helped so much last year

I am unable to recall a couple of loan players who are set to be involved during 2019/20, so new signings can be made

That will be possible only on strict conditions though - they must have played for the club before or must be a 2019/20 signing IRL

I've enhanced the squad numbers by virtue of including the Academy products that have been promoted during this pre-season 

The big transfer was turning Nelson Oliveira's loan move in to a permanent £1.8m signing

This was partly because I needed to reduce the loan numbers from six to five, and partly because I expected him to sign IRL

Oliveira had been training with Reading during this off-season and wanted to re-join permanently in real life

Unfortunately the club could not afford him even on a free transfer (because of FFP) and he is joining AEK Athens instead

The other signing I made was former Academy product Jack Stacey from Luton for £350k to provide another option at right-back

Stacey isn't benefitting yet from stats reflecting his performances last year, so was a cheap and sensible move

The other incoming players shown in the list were those the club made last season themselves

Going out of the club were a small handful of the unwanted men, the rest will languish out on loan or in the U23 group until I can rid myself of them 

I feel a bit sorry for Bodvarsson who sees himself sold when I would have kept him, but I'm just echoing what the club wanted to do


Baldock is already free to go after a disappointing year, but was added late to the training camp squad due to lack of numbers so I kept him too

Obita has been injured for two seasons and only now training again so for this 2018/19 season he isn't available for selection



Results so far have been encouraging, and better than I expected with a small and youthful squad

I'm trying to make the side defensively sound as they haven't been like this for years until Miazga and Moore paired up last January

A solid base can then hopefully allow me to counter-attack effectively, with the pace and power of Barrow & Meite supporting Oliveira


So far so good, and I hope that I can cope with the long and hard winter schedule that no doubt lies ahead


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20 hours ago, silentwars said:

@robterrace how is Lloyd Kelly getting on for you at Forest?

Spent a lot of time after signing with a couple of niggling injuries, really a bit prone to them at the moment, then, when he got fit again, I was playing a setup that didn't really need fullbacks or wingbacks (been playing 3-4-3 for a bit)

In other news..

Been keeping a spreadsheet of my youth prospects that are coming through the academy, and, I've managed to get one to change from a negative personality, to a more neutral one. Still got a bit of work to do with those at the front of the queue development wise though.


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Nottingham Forest - 2020/21 Season Review

Premier League - 12th. Media Prediction - 19th

FA Cup - 6th Round - Knocked out by Southampton

Carabao Cup - 2nd Round - Knocked out by Burnley (Penalties)

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Decided for my final long term (hopefully) save of fm19 I wanted a real challenge and what a bigger challenge than Bolton. Starting on the most recent transfer summer update so we find ourselves just recently relegated from the championship and as everyone or most people know the financial problems at the club is dire to say the least so we start the season in administration with a -12 points to start the new league 1 season with.

Luckily although not a tycoon :( we have been taking over by a local businessman who has cleared the debts so have a healthy 9.5m in the balance but I was given no transfer budget to start with and the few players I managed to sign were on free transfers with the biggest signing being 39 year old Diego Forlan who should be amazing at this level even given his age. I managed to get him signed without any agent fees or signing on fee but by paying him the max I could of 4.5k a week I had only £375 a week to offer other free transfers and that was impossible so I have got to stick with my bare bones squad and hope that we can make it to the jan window with in touching distance of the team just above the relegation zone or be out of the relegation zone by then.

It will be tough as I have to hope we don't get any serious injuries as with no reserves and no youth players and I have asked for a senior club to get some loans in with paying a fee although this has still to happen and with the transfer window now shut these again will only be able to get in jan if we are lucky.


Here is my squad as it stands


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Good luck with Bolton @Chewy2006 you are only an injury or 2 from crisis! Hopefully you can get a bit of money to spend in Jan! I have taken a step back from my Norwich save the crosses not beating first man 99% of the time just got to me! Started up as Gainsborough in the Northen Premier Premier Division and am currently doing really well with them so continuing that save for now with Norwich on the back burner although I’m sure I’ll be back to the save at some point

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We have just reached over the half way point of the season and what a season it has been so far. I thought it would of been more difficult in truth than it turned out to be, after a dodgy start at Portsmouth where I was 1-0 up to then get hammered 4-1 it looked a daunting time was in store for me but after a string of really good results we got rid of that -12pts in no time and have been climbing the table ever since.


Also we have managed to have a really good run in the FA Cup which sees us in the 3rd round and has given the bank balance a much needed boost but after my initial squad post I have managed to get Chelsea as a parent club and managed to get some promising youngsters on board more than anything I needed them in to just add some depth to my squad. Maddox however has proven to be amazing so far chipping in with a fair amount of goals and assists to help the team. Mainly though I think the most pleasing thing about my squad other than the results is that ive managed to get to January with no injuries or long term injuries what so ever which was the thing I was dreading the most given the small squad I have to work with.


I have also been rewarding with a new contract from the board as I have done so well and they have vowed to improve the training facilities as a result of my fine run aswell. Hopefully I can add abit more quality in the team and who knows what I thought was going to be a season just to survive might actually be a season where we could make our way into the play off picture or even an automatic place given we are not far off at the moment.




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So, instead of writing several updates a season, I thought I'd change tack, and write an update halfway through the season, and one at the end.

Here is the Half Term report for season 4.

Transfers -

Again, business done in and out, with the outgoing transfers seeing a lot of profit for the club.




The biggest outgoing deal of the lot was Matej Chalus, who saw us make nearly £7m in profit once we paid out the sell on. Tavsun was very similar, making us a large profit on a small outlay, however, a 30% profit sell on saw us bring in about £5m in profit there.

Coming in, Guido Olguin and Simone Perez were upgrades on the wing, both really highly rated Argentinian youngsters, who will probably have a season with us then be sold. Iriarte was the same, just coming in to support Buitink at the top.

Deadline day, saw us bring in another couple of defenders, in Columbian Duván Perdomo and Max Bauer, as well as some transfer listed English players, in Eddie Nketiah and Dru Yearwood.

Bauer and Perdomo are ones who will spend a couple of seasons with us hopefully, before moving on.

Our league performance was surprising for everyone, seeing us 4th at the turn of the year. Iriarte, Buitink and Olguin chipping in with goals, and Perdomo picking up 5 from centre back.





With the January transfer window arriving, two signings are coming in, for an outlay of £11m.

Firstly, on a free transfer from Manchester City, Jack Harrison, who will cover both wings, and secondly, for £11m from relegated Bournemouth, David Brooks.

Both are at the top end of the age range I will buy (Harrison 25, Brooks 24), however, they both present a massive resale value due to Brexit and being homegrown British players.

Our aim for the second half of the season, is to consolidate our position, and hopefully qualify for Europe.

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So, going into January, the aim was to consolidate our position, and try to finish as high up the table as possible.

First, we had to negotiate the January transfer window, something, which, we did pretty well, with only David Brooks and Jack Harrison coming in, for a total of £11m. The door didn't stop there, with, nearly £85m of outgoing transfer fees coming in, the big one being £40m for Blas Sever, who departs for Tottenham.

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Other key departures were Xadas, who hadn't played a great deal this season, Bernardo Mosso, who fell out with me at the end of the August window, as no offers came in for him, and first choice keeper, David Raya.


Letting Raya go to Monaco was a tough decision, however, in Charlie Le Fondre and Stig Skjaeveland, there were 2 youngsters who had the potential to be long term standouts for us. 19 year old Le Fondre, an England U21 international, had been on loan at Ipswich in the Championship in the first half of the season, and returned.


The other issue was a replacement for Sever. We would lose a lot of dynamism with him leaving, however, the scouting network came up trumps, locating another South American potential superstar, plying his trade in Columbia at Atletico Nacional, and, for £600k, Victor Hugo De Alba comes to the club in June, meaning that Perdomo and Bauer would see out the season as first choices.

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Comparisons with Sever are easy to make, and the young Columbian will fit his role well.

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A second Columbian was also arriving in July, this one had been plying his trade in North America, at NYCFC, and was again, really highly rated on the scout reports.

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Other than that, theres a couple of youngsters coming in just to top up the squads

Back to League news, we confirmed Europa League qualification with a couple of games left, our form, naturally dropped off after the sale of Sever, who had been a massive part of the defence, but, we were overachieving on my plan by at least a season, so, the experience for a lot of the younger players would be quite good.

The U23s won their respective league, with Marcel Diabate top scoring , and the U18s winning their division, then losing the U18 Premier League final on penalties, as well as a defeat in the Youth Cup Final.
Young Spanish striker, Alvaro, a product of our 2021 youth intake, scoring over 30 goals in the season.


A 7th place finish was good, but, I felt we collapsed a fair bit in the 2nd half of the season

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3 hours ago, silentwars said:

@robterrace is the new stadium affecting your transfer budget much at all?

Not had any change yet.


And, I like this.


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Well where to start at the end of December we had an outside chance of a play off place at best with us needing to rely on other teams to slip up but after xmas what an amazing run we had till the end of the season we managed to get to the Quarter final of the FA Cup just losing out in injury time to a youthful Arsenal side at the Emirates which was an incredible achievement. After that we only had the league to focus on and I was lucky to not get many injuries at all that would cost us for the season.


In the January window I decided to sell mageninis to give the transfer kitty and more importantly the wages abit of a boost to give us a chance of signing a few more quality players and that was the case aswell as getting a couple of frees in I also managed to bag another few free loans in which gave our defence more strength in depth as most of the early season I felt every game we were leaking a few goals so I hoped these little changes would tighten it up at the back but that proved to just be one of those things and we had to rely on outscoring the opposition to get a much needed win.



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We had a little wobble in mid march and I thought our chances of a top 6 finish had gone but in April and to the end of the season we went on an amazing run so it all came down to the final two games of the season. It was tight between 4 teams to get the last two play off spots but luckily we managed to beat Accrington which meant we were 5th going into the last game and with it being in our hands it was a relief knowing a win in our last game and we were in the play offs.


It was a nervous win against Wycombe who scored with 5 mins left and were keep throwing everyone forward so we had to hang on but we managed it and other results going our way aswell meant we finished a great 4th place. With some big teams like Ipswich not making the play offs our chances looked good with Blackpool in our way in the semi finals.  A thrilling game at Bloomfield Road felt more like a ride on a rollercoaster than a football game we went 2-0 down quite early on so it looked as if a long hard seasons work had all been wasted but a harsh team talk boosted morale and give the team just the kick up the backside they needed and by the time the 67th minute had come around of the clock we were in front it was another nervy game in the end and we were just hoping to hang on and keep the advantage and we managed to do so job done.


The Home leg a few days later was a much more relaxed game we took an early lead and the job was pretty much done with Blackpool needing another 3 goals to turn the tie it looked unlikely. this time a more relaxed team talk knowing we were almost through was needed and early in the 2nd half Oztumer player of the season for me grabbed the 2nd and on our way to Wembley we went.


So it all came down to this although I never expected to get to the play offs yet alone the final we had to take our chance and get to the championship. Again like the first leg against Blackpool we started slowly and found ourselves 1-0 down quite quickly. This time though we kept it at 1-0 and just before half time we snatched a deserved equaliser 1-1 going into the break and time to calm the nerves. We started the 2nd half like we ended the first and were in control and then out of the blue a 25 yard screamer from Menseguez on of our jan signings and we were up 2-1 but as what had cost us all season our defence didn't stay firm and a stupid pen was given away a few minutes later 2-2.


It was then an even game and could of gone either way a few bookings and I knew I had to make some changes. I sent on a half fit lowe who him and murphy in the middle of midfield had been brilliant all season so I knew he was someone I could trust and wouldn't you know it 10 mins after coming on he grabbed the all important 3rd and from then on we started to dominate the game. Although we never looked in danger 3-2 was always a dangerous score and up until stoppage time you never could rule out Bristiol Rovers having one attack and it could of been 3-3 but as it turned out a swift counter attack and 4-2 it was and it was over! Back to the championship at the first attempt and an unbelievable season for us.


The Board although gave me nothing to spend this season and have given me a healthy 9.5m to spend which is much needed and most of this season we had to rely on loan players. I know I will look at the loan market and even the free transfers again but hopefully I can buy some much needed quality to help us stay up next season


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trying to sign Max Broughton from Bolton atm, retrain him as a box to box midfielder 

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Going through some stuff on my save. So far, my total outlay on transfers is - £137m (for a total of 120 players), and I've fetched in £202m on 32 transfers, the biggest profit being £31m (so far).

Think my policy is working a bit.

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End of my second season with Blackburn. Easily avoided relegation finishing 8th. Start of the 3rd season now, I've spent 70 m + on new players, and looking to break into the top six.

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So, 2022/23 has the World Cup in the middle. That, I forgot about.

In came Victor Hugo De Alba for £650k, with Ross McCrorie coming in from Rangers (for a slightly bigger fee than I wanted to pay), for £7m. The news that Paulo Roberto was going to miss the first couple of months of the campaign was tempered somewhat, when 18 year old French youngster, Justin Picard came up on a scout list.

Mobile, strong in the tackle, and fit, although, diminutive in size (at 5'5", he is the smallest player in the squad), he fits how we want to play, and for £4m, presents a great resale value for the future.

A large number of players departed on loan again, aiming to push their experience further, and several players departed for new clubs, bringing nearly £77m in fees in.

Thomas Buitink was the first to depart, Wolves sparking an auction, which saw the fee go up to £33.5m, with a 30% sell on clause, bringing the club nearly £22m in profit for 18 months worth of work.

Alessandro Murgia departed next, unable to find a space in our starting lineup, he kicked up a bit of a fuss, and went for £3.5m to Aston Villa, which, for less than 12 months, and a £300k profit, wasn't too bad for us.

Bruno Paz departed to Spain, where Villareal paid £9.5m for the Portuguese midfielder, a profit of nearly £9m in the near 2 years he spent with us.

Max Bauer returned to Germany, with Borussia Mönchengladbach parting with £3.5m for the centre back, again, a profit of £1.3m for just under 10 months.

Andre Girao was the next to depart, the Portuguese winger, signed for £600k in 2020, was the subject of several bids from PSG, and in the end, £2.5m and a very healthy 50% of any future fee saw him depart.

Young Argentinian, Guido Olguin departed next, the £7m fee we paid to River, was trebled by Bayer Leverkusen, and the promise of Champions League football saw him go.

That was the last of the 'big' fees, but, 3 other fringe players departed.

In competitive fixtures, we came up against AZ in the Europa League qualifiers, and despatched them 6-0 over 2 legs.

A trip to Croatia came next, with Rijeka our opposition, they were despatched 4-2 on aggregate.

Our run came to a disappointing end in the 4th Qualifying Round, seeing us bow out to Mainz, who were better drilled, and saw us off 4-2 over the 2 legs.

In other competitions, we were beaten 3-0 in the Carabao Cup 3rd Round, and our run in the league was going better, seeing us lie 4th after 17 games, and being one of the only teams to score past Liverpool this season.



Player wise, David Brooks, Luis Iriarte and Keiran Douglas find themselves towards the top end of the goalscorers charts, with Brooks in 3rd place in the league, with 8 goals.

There is some interest coming in for some of the players with the transfer window looming, but, it will take a massive bid or two to part with some of the players.

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As with last season, the aim was to consolidate our position as we pushed into the new year.

The transfer window came around once more, with youngsters Ciaran Stewart, Lucas and Rogerio Caroco joining. The standouts were Jamal Lewis, from Huddersfield, for £10.75m, a bit excessive I thought, but, with his club having gone down, and I needed someone to put pressure on Foster on the left side. The 24 year old will supply that.

Other notable signings were defender Cristopher Huertas, for £3.8m from Malaga. Another powerful centreback, who had just turned 21, Huertas was playing in Spain, and wanted to leave the Segunda. Hitting his release clause saw him come on a 4 and a half year deal.

Murray Proctor joined from Kilmarnock. The 20 year old attacking midfielder had fallen out with his manager, and the Scottish U21 is the perfect fit for what we need. Competition for his place comes from Roberto Lopez, who signs from Girona in Spain, for £1.9m.

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As always, there were departures in the transfer window as well.

Ryan Ledson departed to Reading, having failed to improve since joining. Dru Yearwood as well, departed, heading to Newcastle for a small profit.
Eddie Nketiah returned south to London, having found himself unable to break into the first team squad on a regular basis. Brentford paid £5m for him, which saw us make another profit.
Young Argentine winger, Simone Perez departed to Spain, joining Betis. Although I really liked him as a player, his personality saw him kick up a fuss any time a player was sold, and, he was coming to the end of his contract. For £3.8m, a decent profit was made on him.

Also departing was Luis Iriarte for £13.5m to Marseille. The Argentine had top scored for us last season, and was doing well this season, however, his agent was pushing for a massive new contract for him, and a £10.5m profit on him was more than worth making.

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Back to business, a decent cup run saw us get knocked out in the 6th Round of the FA Cup at Old Trafford, where, despite taking the lead, the sending off of Leigh Foster changed the game.

In the league, we kept a short distance behind the top 3, eventually securing 4th place with 3 games to go, defeating Arsenal.

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Kieran Douglas was the massive standout for us, finishing the season with 29 goals, 14 assists, and numerous awards, including the PFA Young Player of the Season. He has probably every one of Europes big clubs sniffing after him, which is why I managed to get him to sign a contract which puts him right at the top of the pay structure I want to use. The big thing with the contract, however, is there are no release clauses in there

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Finally, this

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So. 2 seasons left at NG2, then we move into our new home. Hopefully, we can keep the Champions League football coming for then.


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Going into the the 2023/24 season, we were looking to compete on another front, with Champions League football thrown in.

For perhaps the first time in the entire time I've been at Forest, there were minimal arrivals, with 3 players coming in.

Northern Irish teenagers, Scott Porter (AMR) and Ben Bingham (ST) arrived from Glenavon, and went on loan, to Hull City and Hearts. Australian international defender, Lachlan Tobin came in from Adelaide City in his homeland, and went on loan to Ligue 1 side, Amiens.

The usual loans went out, with several fringe players departing to new clubs.

Interest was beginning to show in Kieran Douglas. The young Irish striker had been on fantastic form over the past 2 seasons on loan at Scunthorpe and Newcastle, and he had shown great improvement in terms of attributes and value. The belief being that he wouldn't be at the club at the end of this transfer window, moves were made to secure a striker of similar ilk.

Noah Lepretre was found at Servette in Switzerland, and at 17 years old, still had a few years worth of development to do. He'd shown up on several scout reports over the past season and a half, and had scored regularly in the U21s of the Swiss club, before chipping in with 16 from 33 in the Swiss League last season.

Comparatively, he was exactly the sort of striker we wanted, someone comfortable to play on his own, but also drop deep and help link up the play. For £6m, he joins on his 18th birthday, January 6th.


Also attracting some interest, was Jack Harrison. At 26, he is the oldest player in the squad, and had asked for a new contract. On checking what he wanted, the winger requested over £60k per week, with no negotiation room. This was £20k over the limit I have set myself for sustainability purposes.

He was immediately offered out, and attracted the attention of Everton, who offered £19m for him. Given I had signed him on a free, thats a very healthy profit, and he will leave in January.

The plus side of this, is that I had several months to pursue the options on the left side of midfield. There is a young Ivorian arriving who can play on that flank, but, that will still leave us short out there, as Martin McMeekin has been struggling with injury.

The solution to this was found in Ireland. 19 year old Winger, Glen Whelan, had been plying his trade at Cork City. Quick, strong, and a very good playmaker out wide, he struck me a bit of an Irish Gareth Bale, just without the attitude. For £1m, and a 5 year contract, he comes in on the 1st January 2024, and will replace Harrison.



Away from the transfer business, the season started with a visit from West Ham, who, inspired by Romelu Lukaku, went away 3-0 victors.

Champions League football saw us draw Dynamo Kiev, FC Porto and Monaco, with the chances of progressing being pretty good.

This proved to be the case, as we finished 2nd in the group behind Monaco, who won 5 out of their 6 games, the only defeat being a 2-1 reverse to ourselves at the City Ground. Our prize being a draw against Bayer Leverkusen

We departed the EFL Cup in the 3rd round, a rotated team losing on penalties to Arsenal after a 2-2 draw.

At the turn of the year, we found ourselves sat in 4th in the Premier League, level with Manchester United in 3rd, with 39 points after 20 games, although, the north west side have 2 games in hand. All to play for, and a few choice areas to strengthen in, and things could happen.

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Sorry to say that my brief spell with Reading (whilst enjoyable) hasn't continued. They signed a whole host of new players after I started this, and some of them seem quite promising. I decided to stop as they will be amongst the EFL contenders for me in FM20 .

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I'm starting my first EFL challenge ever as Rickie Lambert in charge of Sunderland, after watching the 'Sunderland til I Die'-documentary. I hope I can keep this save going untill FM20.

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Sorry if asked several times... But how does promotion from championship to PL money works? I have a journeyman save, then in 2025 Blackburn got a new owner, tycoon, so I thought that is the perfect time to go to England and build a former big team. And won the playoff to bring the team back to the PL, and then did ofc start to get the PL TV money. But are you not supposed to get more then TV money when  you get pormotion from Championship? Not seen any things to that or a message about that yet, so wonder if it's just me who have misunderstood...

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2 minutes ago, DefinitelyTaylor said:

Can we expect an FM20 thread

Absolutely :thup:. I'm hoping to post the new thread the day of full release. Last year, I wrote the club profiles based on the beta and then had to change a lot after full release as predicted finish positions and transfer budgets changed at the last minute. Since the only way to discover transfer budgets is to take on the manager role for every one of the 72 clubs, I'd rather not have to do that twice :p.

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