kanga825 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Why does the AML and AMR keep swapping positions? I keep moving them back but they always switch back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justified Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, kanga825 said: Why does the AML and AMR keep swapping positions? I keep moving them back but they always switch back. Maybe a stupid question, but did you check if the swapping positions instructions is applied in the Player Instructions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justified Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, Justified said: That's fair enough feedback! I haven't tried the new version yet so was just spit balling some ideas off the top of my head. Maybe it's just a case of testing different duties to see where you get the right balance. Maybe a DLF on support with a Free Role could give some joy? That's pretty much a CF without RWB. It most likely will set your shape to Fluid though unless you change the backs. I managed to find an hour yesterday after work to test some of my theories and the DLF (S) + Mez (S) + WB's (A) on V2.0 made a difference in attack. Striker scored two and 2 assists were from the left back. Didn't try free role on the striker yet but might not be needed. Obviously against bigger opponents the WB's might get found out so need to keep an eye out on that. Edited November 28, 2018 by Justified Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timcliffsmith Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Yeah, wingers keep switching with me, too. Looked for the swap position instruction but can't find it anywhere. Any ideas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanga825 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 I have looked in the player instructions also but cant find anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justified Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, timcliffsmith said: Yeah, wingers keep switching with me, too. Looked for the swap position instruction but can't find it anywhere. Any ideas? 20 minutes ago, kanga825 said: I have looked in the player instructions also but cant find anything. You need to go to the Player Instructions tab and then click on the AML/AMR position and then at the bottom underneath instructions it says "swap positions with", Edited November 28, 2018 by Justified Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted November 28, 2018 Author Share Posted November 28, 2018 5 hours ago, Justified said: I managed to find an hour yesterday after work to test some of my theories and the DLF (S) + Mez (S) + WB's (A) on V2.0 made a difference in attack. Striker scored two and 2 assists were from the left back. Didn't try free role on the striker yet but might not be needed. Obviously against bigger opponents the WB's might get found out so need to keep an eye out on that. Interesting stuff, I'll take a look. I'd like to use a DLF(S) but didn't want to switch to Fluid. Moving the WBs to attack would counter that. Worth experimenting with! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted November 28, 2018 Author Share Posted November 28, 2018 4 hours ago, Justified said: You need to go to the Player Instructions tab and then click on the AML/AMR position and then at the bottom underneath instructions it says "swap positions with", They switch on purpose to lose markers - although it won't make a huge difference is you turn that off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhaffy Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Another possiblility is that they are set as corner takers on their opposite flank and it takes a while for them to return to their set position... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca72 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, mhaffy said: Another possiblility is that they are set as corner takers on their opposite flank and it takes a while for them to return to their set position... Nope - they are set to switch in the tactic 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nateboia Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Great tactic Fuss. Working wonders on my save. I almost gave up on my save until I came across this tactic. I'm managing Chelsea and it works great for my team. BTW i like that you didn't use get stuck in. Pretty much most of the tactics in fm19 use it and it's driving me nuts with the huge number of cards that it carries. Can I request you to make a 4231 version with an AMC? I'd love to use Fekir whom i just bought in his natural role. Thanks and cheers.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastian Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Hi Fuss, can't download v1.1 from post, do you upload again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted November 29, 2018 Author Share Posted November 29, 2018 11 hours ago, mhaffy said: Another possiblility is that they are set as corner takers on their opposite flank and it takes a while for them to return to their set position... Nope - I set them that way. But I'll upload a non-switching version for those of you with very one-footed inside forwards. 11 hours ago, macca72 said: Nope - they are set to switch in the tactic This :) 7 hours ago, Nateboia said: Great tactic Fuss. Working wonders on my save. I almost gave up on my save until I came across this tactic. I'm managing Chelsea and it works great for my team. BTW i like that you didn't use get stuck in. Pretty much most of the tactics in fm19 use it and it's driving me nuts with the huge number of cards that it carries. Can I request you to make a 4231 version with an AMC? I'd love to use Fekir whom i just bought in his natural role. Thanks and cheers.. He should do well as the Mazzala, it's basically made for great AMC type players even if the suitability system doesn't show it. 4 hours ago, mastian said: Hi Fuss, can't download v1.1 from post, do you upload again? It's an issue with the forum, but I'll re-upload everything to be on the safe side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted November 29, 2018 Author Share Posted November 29, 2018 Just wanted to add that I'm having great success using the "balanced" mentality against tough opponents. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm86 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) Thanks for the continious work on this Fuss and others! Its got me finally enjoying a Rangers save. Tried loads and couldn't get a tactic to click. I love playing the full game but due to having a 3 year old and a job I have little time to tinker so hats off to you guys. Any tips though for weaker teams who whack the ball over the top. I lost 3-1 to a poor St. Mirren side and all goals were a long ball over the top. Other than that all other results are pretty much realistic, including a 3-0 thrashing from Celtic ☹️☹️ Edited November 29, 2018 by hm86 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickZombie Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Are you using 1.1 or 2.0 on balanced fuss? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vokes Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 On 27/11/2018 at 15:52, FuSS said: I absolutely will not use an AP,they are drawn to the ball far too much in this engine and make teams very 1-dimensional. The box-to-box has been one of my better performers over the season, that said I do have Scott McTominay on loan from Man Utd and he's of higher quality than most of the Championship can field in that position. Agreed! The B2B is the absolute heartbeat of the setup. And together with the DM and MEZ, they make the perfect midfield triumvirate - I think if any of the three roles are turned to playmakers, it would take away from what makes the system tick. Fwiw, still having great success with beta version of thetactic on FMT 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted November 29, 2018 Author Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, QuickZombie said: Are you using 1.1 or 2.0 on balanced fuss? Thanks I'm basically using V2.0 (I tweak slightly to my personal tastes) - I use it on positive 90% of the time and balanced when I play against better teams. V1.1 is only there as some people wanted to keep the original tactic, but I hadn't sorted out any of the set pieces yet. 31 minutes ago, Vokes said: Agreed! The B2B is the absolute heartbeat of the setup. And together with the DM and MEZ, they make the perfect midfield triumvirate - I think if any of the three roles are turned to playmakers, it would take away from what makes the system tick. Fwiw, still having great success with beta version of thetactic on FMT Triumvirate! That was the word I was trying to remember when I did the write up, you star. I completely agree, I love the B2B on my game, but will probably tinker with the front 3 some more. Edited November 29, 2018 by FuSS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted November 29, 2018 Author Share Posted November 29, 2018 Added "V2.0 (No Switch)" for those of you that really don't like your AMR and AML switching, otherwise it's exactly the same. MiNiMaL_FuSS - FuSStidious v2.0 (No Switch).fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRoysteR Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 V2.0 working great for me so far with Lyon, Great job Fuss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanga825 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Thanks for the no switch option Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZimmermanPT Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 1 hora atrás, FuSS disse: Added "V2.0 (No Switch)" for those of you that really don't like your AMR and AML switching, otherwise it's exactly the same. MiNiMaL_FuSS - FuSStidious v2.0 (No Switch).fmf Link not working. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSue Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Those of you who can't find the switch position option, click on "Player" under your teams logo. Took some time for me to figure out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_postie Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 I cant get this to download Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sejo Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 links are broken Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrVogel Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 V2 is going great with my Arsenal save! Thank you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm86 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Anyone help with the 'ball over the top' from poorer opposition? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonseller Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 7 hours ago, hm86 said: Anyone help with the 'ball over the top' from poorer opposition? Just get faster CBs. Dropping the d-line a notch should help in the meantime I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlada hitna Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Links doesn't work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm86 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 4 hours ago, avonseller said: Just get faster CBs. Dropping the d-line a notch should help in the meantime I suppose. Will this not mess with the rest of the tactics setup? I know faster CB's is the way forward but budget limitations don't really allow for that in the first window ☹️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keninho Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) Had the same problem, dropped my d- line and engament line to very low. DLS to AF and standard passing solved the problem. Still created lots of chances ( Alltought this might be even better against top teams. If u have fast offensive players youre deadly on the counter aswell. Another tweak that i am using at the moment is to change the passing from short to standard. The goals were drying up (lots of 1-0,ts 0-0 etc.) Really did the trick, the offensive players started to thrive again. Edited November 30, 2018 by Keninho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRoysteR Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Was flying the first half of the season and now managed to bottle a big lead and most likely finishing 2nd because my team just stopped scoring completly. So many draws aswell. Anyone got any suggestions of how to fix this ? Tried changing passing to balanced as mentioned above but hasnt really done it for me either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted November 30, 2018 Author Share Posted November 30, 2018 I'm currently playing with my Inside Forwards set to "Stay Wider". The logic here is simple - this isn't their position during an attack, but their position when the team win possession. Being wider means that they are available for passes and stretch the opposition offence. When they attack, they will still "cut in", so there's really no need for them to already be sitting narrow and restricting passing opportunities. It's a small tweak, but working really well for me - keen for others to test before I add it to V2.1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted November 30, 2018 Author Share Posted November 30, 2018 6 hours ago, hm86 said: Will this not mess with the rest of the tactics setup? I know faster CB's is the way forward but budget limitations don't really allow for that in the first window ☹️ CBs with good heading/jumping is important as they'll often get to the ball before it hits the ground before them - preventing the need for fast CBs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm86 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 1 hour ago, FuSS said: CBs with good heading/jumping is important as they'll often get to the ball before it hits the ground before them - preventing the need for fast CBs. Cheers Fuss, what about the defensive line would you drop that to standard to help? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted December 1, 2018 Author Share Posted December 1, 2018 17 hours ago, hm86 said: Cheers Fuss, what about the defensive line would you drop that to standard to help? Tricky one. Usually I test a tactic in multiple leagues before I release, but I've not got much time this year, so the tactic is based only on my personal Norwich save - bottom line I've not tried it for Lower League teams, so can't give you too much help, but dropping the lines until you can get better CBs will probably help...you might also consider making the GK more aggressive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm86 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 On 30/11/2018 at 12:50, Keninho said: Had the same problem, dropped my d- line and engament line to very low. DLS to AF and standard passing solved the problem. Still created lots of chances ( Alltought this might be even better against top teams. If u have fast offensive players youre deadly on the counter aswell. Another tweak that i am using at the moment is to change the passing from short to standard. The goals were drying up (lots of 1-0,ts 0-0 etc.) Really did the trick, the offensive players started to thrive again. Thanks for this mate, will definitely give it a shot. I'm exactly the same winning most games 1-0,the other games I'm constantly caught with the long ball over the top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottnmcleod Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Firstly thanks for your work. long time fan. Im in the same boat as most. Dominating games but not scoring. Wins are 1-0 scrapes. Striker not scoring but also getting low ratings. Conceding balls over the top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corei Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 15 saat önce, scottnmcleod said: Firstly thanks for your work. long time fan. Im in the same boat as most. Dominating games but not scoring. Wins are 1-0 scrapes. Striker not scoring but also getting low ratings. Conceding balls over the top. Same here Fuss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) On 04/12/2018 at 01:47, scottnmcleod said: Firstly thanks for your work. long time fan. Im in the same boat as most. Dominating games but not scoring. Wins are 1-0 scrapes. Striker not scoring but also getting low ratings. Conceding balls over the top. On 04/12/2018 at 17:27, Corei said: Same here Fuss Re: balls over the top. Two approaches here: Deal with the striker - set CBs to cover (which is intended to keep them goal-side of any striker) and set the defensive width to narrow, which will prevent the CBs having long distances to travel toward a central striker. OR Deal with the passes - set the pressing to be more intensive, particularly from the WBs, press the areas that the balls over the top are coming from. I've generally found them to be coming in from the wide areas after a failed transition (so my IFWDS are out of the picture). Be interested to hear if this is the same for you both? The analysis page will show you where the assists are coming from that lead to concedes, be handy to know if there's a pattern? Edited December 5, 2018 by FuSS 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 Front page updated and tidied, V3.0 before the weekend! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarraBravaDCU Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 vor 16 Stunden schrieb FuSS: Front page updated and tidied, V3.0 before the weekend! I'm not sure if the note regarding regular rotation on the front page of this thread was only just added, but just wanted to let you know that I do something very similar with any 4-3-2-1 tactic I've ever made or used. I don't necessarily always keep the same 11 together on the pitch, but I do like to have more or less exactly 22 players in my squad, two for each position, and I rotate like it's nobody's business. I tend to find that it works well, keeps everyone happy, reduces injuries, and pays off towards the end of the season when I notice opposing squads fielding players with light injuries or a 78% fitness rating to start the game. The reason I don't like to have two separate starting-11 is that I like to use this system to build up young players and expose them to first team football much earlier than I usually would. If I were to rigidly stick with two starting-11s, I would be afraid that I'd have to rely less on young talents and buy more "seasoned" players instead. Aside from all of that, I'm looking forward to the changes. Last season I was struggling with my own 4-3-2-1, and it was your tactic (with slight tweaks to fit my preferences more) that turned it around for me. Great work! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share Posted December 6, 2018 Well I might be forced to eat my own words as V3.0 currently has an AP in it...maybe APs actually work in FM19! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
parano1c Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 50 минут назад, FuSS сказал: Well I might be forced to eat my own words as V3.0 currently has an AP in it...maybe APs actually work in FM19! instead of mezzala? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warszawa Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 hour ago, FuSS said: Well I might be forced to eat my own words as V3.0 currently has an AP in it...maybe APs actually work in FM19! i will be very happy to try new version, good job Fuss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justified Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 hour ago, FuSS said: Well I might be forced to eat my own words as V3.0 currently has an AP in it...maybe APs actually work in FM19! 😉 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjsportsblog Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Any sign of version 3? I'm willing to test it for you too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomisz Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 I will give this one a go with my current Schalke team. 1st match using this tactic against Gladbach ended with a 0-4 victory, first impression is really good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
omardonq Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Hello, first of all thanks for create a tactic and share with us! - I've been playing in 19.1.1 version of FM19, is it viable for this version? - Extremely pressing and tight defensive style sucks imo. Imagine, u get a counter attack from opponent and their striker got the ball then moves for spaces in our pitch. Right now our 2 defenders who play in centre, pressing together to that guy, so that means opponent's another player who want to support run for their striker is completely free for get a pass and he is 1on1 with our GK. any solution for that? I mean our central defenders shouldn't press together for only 1 guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca72 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 On 06/12/2018 at 17:36, FuSS said: Well I might be forced to eat my own words as V3.0 currently has an AP in it...maybe APs actually work in FM19! You should try 2 - out wide. I think they've got potential in that role this year, especially with overlapping fullbacks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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