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FM scales up it's recommended specs at a slower rate than the vast majority of games on the market... and put it like this, My 7 year old ancient i5 dell is playing this version better than it did the last (due to optimisation etc) , not that that will necessarily be true for everyone.

On the whole the one I listed will almost certainly be fine for a few editions yet if SI stay the course and improve at the current rate.

8 gb ram is sufficient enough to run the game fully and multitask while doing so. And yes, there is definitely potential to add to it... RAM is cheap as chips these days too.

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The SSD will improve boot and load and save times for your FM saves, as said it has no graphics card, so playing 3d would be a challenge for it, but not impossible on lower graphic settings.

If I were you I'd wait 6 months until the new 7th gen processors are released, there should be a price drop in older stock with the older generation processors at around this time.

Plus 6 months gives you chance to save another few quid to it.

You'll increase your longevity chances by holding out a bit longer.

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The SSD will improve boot and load and save times for your FM saves, as said it has no graphics card, so playing 3d would be a challenge for it, but not impossible on lower graphic settings.

If I were you I'd wait 6 months until the new 7th gen processors are released, there should be a price drop in older stock with the older generation processors at around this time.

Plus 6 months gives you chance to save another few quid to it.

You'll increase your longevity chances by holding out a bit longer.

The integrated graphics on it will handle fm on low to medium absolutely... My old dell's (3rd gen) integrated graphics handles fm beautifully tbh..

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I think ill just nab the recommended laptop.

I also need it for work purposes, so im trying to kill 2 birds with 1 stone ;)

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Consider your needs. Do you want 3d or do you want fast boot up and load saves with OK 3d?

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What's your budget and expectations for a FM save?

Budget of about £700 ideally could go more if needed. Mainly play network games, but my SP normally have about 4 countries.

http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/a1-refurbished-acer-es1-512-15.6led-black-intel-celeron-processor-n2840-4g-a1-nx.mrwek.002/version.asp?refsource=LDadwords&crtag=LD&refsource=ldadwords&gclid=CMKk9sjLt80CFQoTGwodcWAO0w

Currently using that which struggles, so want to kill 2 birds with one stone really and gets bit of an upgrade too.

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Budget of about £700 ideally could go more if needed. Mainly play network games, but my SP normally have about 4 countries.

http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/a1-refurbished-acer-es1-512-15.6led-black-intel-celeron-processor-n2840-4g-a1-nx.mrwek.002/version.asp?refsource=LDadwords&crtag=LD&refsource=ldadwords&gclid=CMKk9sjLt80CFQoTGwodcWAO0w

Currently using that which struggles, so want to kill 2 birds with one stone really and gets bit of an upgrade too.

I see - for just over 700 you can get this which would be great for FM and your needs.

Chassis & Display

Cosmos Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD IPS LED Widescreen (1920x1080)

Processor (CPU)

Intel® Core™ i5 Quad Core Processor 6440HQ (2.6GHz, 3.5GHz Turbo)

Memory (RAM)

8GB Kingston SODIMM DDR3 1600MHz (1 x 8GB)

Graphics Card

NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 950M - 2.0GB DDR3 - DX12 (Special Offer)

M.2 SSD Drive

256GB M.2 2280, SATA 6Gb/s (561MB/R, 296MB/W)

Memory Card Reader

Integrated 6 in 1 Card Reader (SD /Mini SD/ SDHC / SDXC / MMC / RSMMC)

Thermal Paste

ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND (£9)

Build Time

Standard Build - Approximately 5 to 7 working days

Price: £706.00 including VAT and delivery.

Unique URL to re-configure: http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/quotes/cosmosXT-15/pM4dJJWfgm/

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Now I'm wondering what the battery when it's unplugged..

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Hiya all,

Budget of around £600

Graphics not as important to me - run FM in 2D anyway but speed is most important and needs to be able to run work software such as Photoshop on

In terms of FM I only really normally have 3 or 4 nations loaded most the time

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Hiya all,

Budget of around £600

Graphics not as important to me - run FM in 2D anyway but speed is most important and needs to be able to run work software such as Photoshop on

In terms of FM I only really normally have 3 or 4 nations loaded most the time

This here is good http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/20EV000TUK-Lenovo-ThinkPad-Edge-E560_1857761.html

This here is slightly better http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/CB-CZ7840-652BD-Cube-Chameleon-CZ-7840_1952829.html

I'll leave it open for debate.

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Thanks a lot

Would this one be any good?

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/asus-x555ua-15-6-laptop-black-10137771-pdt.html

Have £100 PCWorld voucher that I could use as well ( although not essential )

Not had an Asus Laptop so not sure what they are like

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Asus are fine computers - it's a Taiwan company, ranked in Asia's top 10 tech companies. They're something like the 4th largest retailers of computers.

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Asus are fine computers - it's a Taiwan company, ranked in Asia's top 10 tech companies. They're something like the 4th largest retailers of computers.

Thanks, amended the link its the ASUS X555UA if it does not work above

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Yes that would fine.

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Hi I'm looking for a laptop to play FM at a good speed I use the 3D match engine and I will also be using the laptop for general use and maybe for playing games such as CS:GO. I have found these two laptops and I'm wondering if these will play FM and the 3D engine at a good speed.

https://m.johnlewis.com/asus-x555la-laptop-intel-core-i7-8gb-ram-1tb-15-6-inch-black/p/2307189

http://m.cclonline.com/product/199459/X555UJ-XO070T/Laptops/Asus-X555UJ-15-6-inch-Notebook-PC-Core-i5-6200U-2-3GHz-8GB-1TB-DVD-SM-WLAN-BT-Webcam-Windows-10-Home-nVidia-GeForce-920M-with-2GB-VRAM-/NOT02234/

Also if you could recommend some around this price range that would be great :)

Thanks for your help!

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I see - for just over 700 you can get this which would be great for FM and your needs.

Chassis & Display

Cosmos Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD IPS LED Widescreen (1920x1080)

Processor (CPU)

Intel® Core™ i5 Quad Core Processor 6440HQ (2.6GHz, 3.5GHz Turbo)

Memory (RAM)

8GB Kingston SODIMM DDR3 1600MHz (1 x 8GB)

Graphics Card

NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 950M - 2.0GB DDR3 - DX12 (Special Offer)

M.2 SSD Drive

256GB M.2 2280, SATA 6Gb/s (561MB/R, 296MB/W)

Memory Card Reader

Integrated 6 in 1 Card Reader (SD /Mini SD/ SDHC / SDXC / MMC / RSMMC)

Thermal Paste

ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND (£9)

Build Time

Standard Build - Approximately 5 to 7 working days

Price: £706.00 including VAT and delivery.

Unique URL to re-configure: http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/quotes/cosmosXT-15/pM4dJJWfgm/

Thanks for that, I would prefer something in tablet form though really as I do a lot of travelling laptops are just that little bulky when travelling hand luggage only.

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Thanks for that, I would prefer something in tablet form though really as I do a lot of travelling laptops are just that little bulky when travelling hand luggage only.

Tablets arent capable of competing even close to a laptop in terms of performance, and for gaming, it's going to be a struggle.. having said that...

The best tablets i've used with desktop like functionality are the Lenovo Yoga 3 pro's .... which is the best of both worlds if not a master of either..

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The Yoga's looks like they could do a decent(ish) job, depending on the specific hardware inside; or the Microsoft Surface Pro's. Personally I wouldn't aim lower than that for playing FM with. But both the Yoga and the Surface would probably be considerably more costly - when equipped with the best possible hardware - than a lightweight laptop that could play FM better for cheaper. Portability costs money. That's why laptops' price/performance is worse than desktops, and tablets price/performance are worse than laptops.

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Bloatware is something that particularly annoys me, and is one of the reasons why I built my own PC.

I remember returning a Sony Vaio shortly after buying it due to all the rubbish that Sony had deemed fit to install that couldn't be removed.

Are there any manufacturers you'd recommend to either stay clear of or are bloatware friendly? Budget is around £500 or so and usual FM-related needs are important of course ;).

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You're in the UK? PCSpecialist's Clevo builds are bloatware free, I think. They are in every other Clevo vendor I know about in the world.

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I've read through most of this thread. Some of those links on the first page from 4yrs ago still work lol

I currently have a low-spec Dell and am looking to upgrade to something more suitable.

Apart from FM, I don't really play any other games or need to use the laptop for much more than general browsing so don't really want to fork out more than is necessary.

What I've gathered from reading all these posts about requirements for FM is:

- the processor is the main thing

- 4GB RAM is generally good enough, although 8GB is handy. Any more is unnecessary and, for some reason I couldn't fathom, people laugh if 6BG is suggested ??

- dedicated graphics card is preferred to integrated

£500 seems to be the average price of a lot of the recommended laptops on here, generally due to that being the budget for a lot of people I guess.

Welshace, you said in post #4196 on the previous page that "£400 is starting to push what you can do with fm tbh..." but on the page before that in post #4040 you said that this was "probably the best laptop i've seen for under £300 or a long time" ...... http://www.ebuyer.com/724984-hp-250-laptop-g4-n1a92ea-abu

But would that one be suitable? Or is it not really good enough?

I generally don't run too many leagues, although that usually is due to my poor laptop, so an extra few would be nice but not that important.

Budget would be low, perhaps just £300 up front so I could go for that one, although if I used somewhere like QVC or Ideal World (mock it all you want but can be useful) I can pay in instalments and therefore afford maybe £500.

One I found on QVC for £400 was the HP Pavilion 15.6" Windows 10 Laptop with Intel Core i3 8GB Ram & 1TB HDD:

http://www.qvcuk.com/HP-Pavilion-15.6-Windows-10-Laptop-with-Intel-Core-i3-8GB-Ram-&-1TB-HDD.product.508147.html

Is that one a) good enough to run FM smoothly and b) a decent enough price?

I know I'm probably going to pay a bit extra and could maybe get it cheaper elsewhere but it's the interest-free instalments of 3 months x £133 that appeals.

Either that or this other one: http://www.qvcuk.com/HP-Pavilion-Laptop-with-Win-10-AMD-A8-Processor-8GB-RAM,-2TB-HDD-&-Laptop-Bag.product.508146.html

But I think the 1st one is better for the price.

My current laptop is a refurbished Dell Latitude E6400, P8400, 2.3GHz processor, 4GB RAM, 160GB HDD, Windows 10 64-bit, with integrated Intel 4 series that I bought last summer.

So almost anything would be an improvement!

Thanks for your time.

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I've read through most of this thread.

Can you post your budget and what you require from your FM save, like league amounts, if you play 3d, if you prefer journeyman saves or like to play 10 seasons and start over etc.

As you know from reading the threads, each recommendation is based on the person's budget, what they want to get out of their new computer in FM terms, and also on what is available to purchase at that time.

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Hi I am lookin for a laptop that can play Football Manager to a high standard and I'm wondering what your opinions are on this laptop? Thanks for your time. http://www.tesco.com/direct/asus-x555uj-xo070t-intel-core-i5-6200u-dual-core-processor-156-hd-screen-microsoft-windows-10-home-64-bit-8gb-ddr3-ram-1000gb-hdd-laptop/735-7639.prd#product-details-container

What's your version of 'high standard' - and what's your actual budget? Is it 600 or higher or lower?

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I'm lopking to buy a laptop at the end of the year, i'm going to spend roughly around 800-1000 on one.

these are the main things im going to need

1. I want it to last me for a good few years (6-7)

2. I want it to be fast (i hate waiting for applications to load and for it to start up)

3. I only really play football manager so i want it to be able to run football manager and a very good speed, i also want it to be still be able to run football manager at a good speed in 4-5 years time.

4. largest screen possible

i currently don't play FM in 3d but if they develop the game to a better standard in future then i do want that option, and also my saves can last 6 seasons if not more.

any ideas what i should be looking at?

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Screen size preference? Weight of laptop an issue? Stationary or a little mobile?

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Screen size preference? Weight of laptop an issue? Stationary or a little mobile?

no preference with those mate, apart from screen size large as possible (but doesn't have to be)

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As you're spending so much on this - I'd like to add that a new range of processors are due out at the start of next year, which means stock now will be cheaper in 6 months time.

Just to note, that it's impossible to know what the game will be like in 4-5 years time, and what hardware is required. For all we know it could go VR - or something like that...

For the money you're spending I'd recommend PC specialist, fantastic builds of computers and highly recommended.

Comes in a little over - but it's pretty damn good.

Chassis & Display

Proteus Series: 17.3" Matte Full HD LED Widescreen (1920x1080)

Processor (CPU)

Intel® Core™ i7 Quad Core Processor 6700HQ (2.6GHz, 3.5GHz Turbo)

Memory (RAM)

8GB HyperX IMPACT 2133MHz SODIMM DDR4 (1 x 8GB)

Graphics Card

NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 970M - 6.0GB DDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 12

M.2 SSD Drive

480GB KINGSTON SSDNow M.2 2280 G2, SATA 6Gb/s (550MB/R, 520MB/W)

Thermal Paste

ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND (£9)

Build Time

Standard Build - Approximately 5 to 7 working days

Price: £1,024.00 including VAT and delivery.

Unique URL to re-configure: http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/quotes/proteusIII-17/7kzhwOb8hP/

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What's your version of 'high standard' - and what's your actual budget? Is it 600 or higher or lower?
I just want a laptop that can play FM smoothly at a good speed without taking ages to process through seasons. I don't really have a budget tbh just want a good solid laptop for performance on FM. What are your thoughts on that laptop and how many stars do you think it would get? Also do you have any reccomendations? Thanks for your help mate :)

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How many leagues do you play? Do you play journey man saves or do you play for 10 seasons and start over?

Laptops range from 100 to 20,000 quid - there must be a range you're willing to go between?

The star rating within the game is subjective and it's impossible to tell you how many stars it will get - nobody can unless they have that exact model.

Based on the computer you've posted - this is the exact same going for cheaper

http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/X555UJ-XO070T-ASUS-X555UJ-XO070T_1829327.html

This is the same price - marginally better graphics card

http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/30020524-Medion-Akoya-P6659_1885565.html

Another option is - again slightly better graphics card

http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NX.G3HEK.001-Acer-Aspire-E5-574G_1925700.html

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How many leagues do you play? Do you play journey man saves or do you play for 10 seasons and start over?

Laptops range from 100 to 20,000 quid - there must be a range you're willing to go between?

The star rating within the game is subjective and it's impossible to tell you how many stars it will get - nobody can unless they have that exact model.

Based on the computer you've posted - this is the exact same going for cheaper

http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/X555UJ-XO070T-ASUS-X555UJ-XO070T_1829327.html

This is the same price - marginally better graphics card

http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/30020524-Medion-Akoya-P6659_1885565.html

Another option is - again slightly better graphics card

http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NX.G3HEK.001-Acer-Aspire-E5-574G_1925700.html

I play the 5 main leagues and I tend to stay in saves for quite a while with just one club and I will Probs be looking to spend around £500 however I am willing to go more if I can't get good performance from a laptop with £500. I know FM is mostly based on the processor and I'm wondering if the i5 6200U is a good processor for FM as the recommended processor is 2.2Ghz and the i5 processor is only 2.3Ghz.

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It's hard to tell. How many subdivisions, size database do you load?

For FM the more leagues and players loaded etc, the more processing that has to be done. The longer you are into a career game the more data there is to process.

The more stress the processor is under the closer to the base speed it will perform, which is 2.3ghz, but under normal conditions it can overclock to 2.8ghz.

This would be good for long career saves - it has an SSD which improves your Booting Up time, and load save of game etc. But won't enhance your day to day in-game experience. However, it has no standalone graphics card - so 3D would be recommended on low quality

http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/20EV000TUK-Lenovo-ThinkPad-Edge-E560_1857761.html

More power 2.6ghz - entry level graphics card for 3d matchs - ssd for the same as above

Same power 2.6ghz - same graphics card - no SSD drive, which would give slower boot up times and load and saves. - but 50 quid cheaper

http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/CB-CZ5840-1010XK-Cube-Chameleon-CZ-5840_1841718.html

Then you have this - it's still a 2.3ghz processor - don't let the letters fool you - but the HQ stands for High Performance graphics - so you probably wouldn't need a separate graphics card.

http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NX.G5WEK.001-Acer-Aspire-V5-591G_1919306.html

Now you get into the more expensive range - Yes it's a quad core processor and it's 2.6ghz - similar to the one posted earlier, again the HQ stands for High Performance Graphics. It has a great graphics card for 3D matches. But no SSD for those quick load/saves etc.

http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16J522-425-MSI-GP62-6QE(Leopard-Pro)-425UK_1886696.html

Now I've looked through about 15 more pages to get a processor that would take you to t he next level.

But on that site it would cost a lot to go up a processor speed (significantly).

Now - what would I recommend for you - this would be ideal if you were not going to play 3d graphics.

Chassis & Display

UltraNote: 15.6" Matte HD LED Backlit Widescreen (1366x768)

Processor (CPU)

Intel® Core™ i7 Dual Core Processor i7-6500U (2.50GHz, 3.1GHz Turbo)

Memory (RAM)

8GB Kingston SODIMM DDR3 1600MHz (1 x 8GB)

Graphics Card

Integrated Intel® HD Graphics

Memory - Hard Disk

500GB SEAGATE HYBRID 2.5" SSHD Drive, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (5400 rpm)

M.2 SSD Drive

120GB KINGSTON SSDNow M.2 2280 G2, SATA 6Gb/s (550MB/R, 200MB/W)

Quantity

1

Price: £625.00 including VAT and delivery.

Unique URL to re-configure: http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/quotes/ultraNoteIII-15/DXfUcDyuSW/

If you want 3D graphics

Chassis & Display

Cosmos Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD IPS LED Widescreen (1920x1080)

Processor (CPU)

Intel® Core™ i5 Quad Core Processor 6300HQ (2.3GHz, 3.2GHz Turbo)

Memory (RAM)

8GB Kingston SODIMM DDR3 1600MHz (1 x 8GB)

Graphics Card

NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 940M - 2.0GB DDR3 Video RAM - DirectX® 12

Memory - Hard Disk

500GB SERIAL ATA II 2.5" HARD DRIVE WITH 8MB CACHE (5,400rpm)

M.2 SSD Drive

128GB M.2 2280, SATA 6Gb/s (534MB/R, 150MB/W)

Price: £653.00 including VAT and delivery.

Unique URL to re-configure: http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/quotes/cosmosIV-15/xMbTkgQzns/

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Damn I accidentally removed a link - sorry. But I think you get the gist.

The more things you want to get out of FM - the more expensive it's going to be.

Priortise what's important and structure that around your budget.

If I was you I'd go for one of the PC specialist options.

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If you're in the UK and looking at a PCSpecialist build, don't forget to check out the Schenker XMG range of customizable laptops over at mysn.co.uk --- they're the same laptop chassis'es that PCSpecialist use (mostly Clevo, sometimes MSI or Gigabyte barebones), and are configurable in the same fashion. They tend to cost more for the exact same specs, but not always. And if you're in Germany, the same laptops can be found at mysn.de

The Schenker XMG laptops - that are the same base builds as PCSpecialist's builds, and the same as several other vendors offerings around the world, are frequently being reviewed at notebookcheck.net, one of the best sites for everything laptoppy.

If you're not in the UK but like the offerings of PCSpecialist's/MySN's customizable laptops, and wonder where can you get the same where you live? Go http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-resellers-in-the-european-union-v1.652403/ for a fairly comprehensive list of other Clevo vendors around Europe. It includes a few more UK ones.

If you want more info on who, what, where Clevo barebones is, go here for an introduction. Here you can also find the links to several American or Canadian vendors. Looking around in this Clevo forum you can also find links to Asian and Australian vendors.

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I don't think I've ever seen an xmg cheaper than pcspecialist in all my years..

If you find one comparable, I'd love to know as i'm always on the look out for new suppliers.

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I don't think I've ever seen an xmg cheaper than pcspecialist in all my years..

If you find one comparable, I'd love to know as i'm always on the look out for new suppliers.

This list has got seven UK Clevo vendors, including PCSpecialist and Schenker XMG.

Edit: Looks like the 7th UK vendor, Chillblast, is no longer with us.

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Can you post your budget and what you require from your FM save, like league amounts, if you play 3d, if you prefer journeyman saves or like to play 10 seasons and start over etc.

As you know from reading the threads, each recommendation is based on the person's budget, what they want to get out of their new computer in FM terms, and also on what is available to purchase at that time.

I did give most of that info in my original post above but admit it may have been lost amongst the rest of it.....

"I generally don't run too many leagues.....an extra few would be nice but not that important."

"Budget would be low, perhaps just £300 up front....although if I pay in instalments could afford maybe £500."

To be more specific about FM requirements, minimum I'd say would be:

the four major leagues (tend to have 4 divisions in England but only top divisions, sometimes two, in Spain, Italy and Germany), small-medium database (40-50k), generally only use 3D for replays, tend NOT to do journeyman saves and will stick with the same club for a while. Of course, if all these could be improved/increased then great but not a priority.

Only really play FM and am not one of those who has to have loads of other things open or stuff going on in the background.

From the ones I linked to above (and here again below), are they good enough and decent value for money?

http://www.qvcuk.com/HP-Pavilion-15.6-Windows-10-Laptop-with-Intel-Core-i3-8GB-Ram-&-1TB-HDD.product.508147.html

http://www.qvcuk.com/HP-Pavilion-Laptop-with-Win-10-AMD-A8-Processor-8GB-RAM,-2TB-HDD-&-Laptop-Bag.product.508146.html

As I say, if I'm going to have to pay more than £300 then I'd have to do instalments and with QVC I can.

I don't mind shelling out the extra as long as the laptop is up to the task.

Thanks for your help. I do appreciate it.

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As I say, if I'm going to have to pay more than £300 then I'd have to do instalments and with QVC I can.

I don't mind shelling out the extra as long as the laptop is up to the task.

Thanks for your help. I do appreciate it.

http://www.qvcuk.com/HP-Pavilion-15.6-Laptop-with-B&O-PLAY-Win-10,-Core-i5-8GB-Ram-&-1TB-HDD.product.508148.html?cm_sp=VIEWPOSITION-_-7-_-508148

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Hi there,

I am looking to purchase a laptop mainly used for playing FM and watching Netflix. Budget is £500. Ideally something that gets a great 3D rating for watching match highlights.

really appreciate any response given.

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Hi there,

I am looking to purchase a laptop mainly used for playing FM and watching Netflix. Budget is £500. Ideally something that gets a great 3D rating for watching match highlights.

really appreciate any response given.

http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/X556UB-XX039T-ASUS-X556UB-XX039T_1970470.html

Not knowing how many leagues you want to run - however, this is about the only one with a graphics card in the 500 quid range.

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Hi all.

My laptop used to run fm15 fine. A bit slow, but ok.

I upgraded to fm16, but during a 3d match it would get crazy hot and shut itself down.

I'm now back on fm15, but that's started having the same problem.

So, what is the absolute cheapest lsptop to run fm16, with 3D graphics, large database, maybe 5-10 leagues?

Thanks

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Hi all.

My laptop used to run fm15 fine. A bit slow, but ok.

I upgraded to fm16, but during a 3d match it would get crazy hot and shut itself down.

I'm now back on fm15, but that's started having the same problem.

So, what is the absolute cheapest lsptop to run fm16, with 3D graphics, large database, maybe 5-10 leagues?

Thanks

It's all subjective really. What's cheap to me might not be cheap to you... what's a fast computer to me, might not be for you...

Perhaps this would suit

http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/K501UB-DM020T-ASUS-K501UB-DM020T_1845634.html

Or perhaps this

http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-178344-093-MSI-GT72S-6QF(Dominator-Pro-Dragon-4K)-0_1919344.html

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It would be good enough - but what's your budget and what's your expectations in your FM save, leagues run, 3d importance etc.

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It would be good enough - but what's your budget and what's your expectations in your FM save, leagues run, 3d importance etc.

Like to run a few leagues, normally England down to league 2, Spain, Italy, Germany, France top leagues, then chop and change leagues as I move around

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