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Heat should always be consideration & as the others have said if you really want to play FM you need to look elsewhere, that device will not fair well if asked to run FM & it is very much a case of style over substance which is the wrong ideology for FM.

Worst case scenario is that the CPU gets fried because of the high stress being placed on it, best case is you spend most of your time staring at the processing bar more than you'd like while seeing the device lock up while it crunches through FM could be the most likely outcome.

Okay thanks barside, sad times

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Hi All,

I was hoping one of the regulars could advise on a new laptop. I think Smurf had recommended the below laptop in one instance -

http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/P5S40ESABU-HP-ProBook-450-G2_1884971.html

How does this one compare to others in the price range?

The only game I play would be FM, say around half a dozen leagues in good detail. I dont like the 3D pitch engine. I want a laptop that running FM won't over exert and cause to over heat all the time and cause the fan to go noisy as always seems to happen to me!

Ideally around the £400 mark give or take!

Any advice is appreciated - please ask if you need any other info to base recommendation on.

Cheers

Any thoughts on this folks? All pointers appreciated.

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It'd run FM fine but personally think it's over priced. It'll give you an decent enough i7, 8gig of ram and no graphics card for about 650ish pound since googling the monitor average price is £150. (Does anyone use a curved to give him info if they're any good? I've just bought two new monitors, neither are curved).

You could shop at prices like DinoPC and Overclockers and find better for the price.

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One is a laptop, and the other a desktop... Which do you require?

In terms of gameplay, the desktop has by far the superior CPU, however I cannot find any mention of a Graphics card so I fear it may be using integrated graphics which are likely to be fairly poor.

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I was unsure what to get to be honest. I feel I would get a better desktop for the same price of a laptop. Then I have the convenience of a laptop. I think I will go for a laptop. Any recommendations for around 600/700?

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What exactly is your budget? You're going from a £430 to £600 laptop.

In a computer £50 can make all the difference.

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My top end is probably 600 but I don't necessarily want to spend that much if a good deal can be found. What is wrong with the one at 430?

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My top end is probably 600 but I don't necessarily want to spend that much if a good deal can be found. What is wrong with the one at 430?

I didn't say there was anything wrong with it. Like going to buy a new suit, there's a big difference in a suit for £400 and one for £600.

It's good to know what your actual budget is.

Not bothered about 3D - similar enough to what you have linked to already - except the hard drive is faster in this for faster booting up times, faster load and save games - but it won't speed up FM much.

http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/20DF0093UK-Lenovo-ThinkPad-Edge-E550_1913192.html

Mid range 3d level - better processor

http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/CB-CZ5840-644ES-Cube-Chameleon-CZ-5840_1778472.html

I'd go with the 2nd choice there.

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There's nothing "wrong" with them, the more expensive one is just better. You get what you pay for. Plus going vie Currys PC World is very unlikely to get the best value. Just searching for the particular model for the 430 one shows it on Amazon directly from Asus for £399 (with tenner delivery).

Shop around. Unless you absolutely need a laptop today, there's rarely a reason to go to Currys PC World.

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Really, I have no idea! I've been looking as well and that seemed quite a good step up on paper from the £429 one at PC world for an extra £70.

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how good is it? i need a new one as my intel core i7 is being a bit rubbish of late. its overheating a lot!

Have you investigated solving the overheating issue rather than forking out for a new laptop? Out of interest what do you currently have?

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Whats the cheapest laptop out there that can take high resolution skins?

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Cheap & High Res do not normally go hand in hand, what resolution do you want to run at?

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More importantly, what's your version of cheap? 200, 400, 600, 1000, 2000?

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With high resolution skins I take it to mean skins that are made to work at their best with a 1920x 1080 resolution? Then that's simple: You need a 1920x1080 screen. The cheapest laptop with a 1920x1080 screen depends on what country/region you are in - prices are not the same even for the exact same machine, across the globe. And some are simply not available everywhere.

The Lenovo Yoga 500, the HP pavillion 15, The Lenovo IdeaPad G50 or B50 and the Acer Aspire E5 are a few of the cheaper laptops with a 1920x1080 resolution screen that you should be able to play FM on.

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Looking at a new laptop mainly to run FM 16.

I generally run England Spain and Germany 8 leagues with a large database modified to include approx 64k players. I like to play my games in 3D using the prozone camera. Ideally I'd like to spend £500 however I could spend up to £600 but wouldn't like to go much higher. Any recommendations ?

Just a bit out my price range but wondering if it would be worth stretching it for this one below?

http://store.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/Product.aspx?sel=NTB&id=P0S78EA&opt=ABU&p=c-hp-pavilion

Thanks

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Looking at a new laptop mainly to run FM 16.

I generally run England Spain and Germany 8 leagues with a large database modified to include approx 64k players. I like to play my games in 3D using the prozone camera. Ideally I'd like to spend £500 however I could spend up to £600 but wouldn't like to go much higher. Any recommendations ?

Just a bit out my price range but wondering if it would be worth stretching it for this one below?

http://store.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/Product.aspx?sel=NTB&id=P0S78EA&opt=ABU&p=c-hp-pavilion

Thanks

Given your location .. where are you purchasing from? UK?

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I ask because it's a shame to buy direct from HP when you can buy at discount elsewhere:

https://www.acs4it.co.uk/products/Computers/Laptops/HP/HP-Pavilion-Gaming-15-ak009na-15-6-Core-i7-67?prodid=2475256&info=2

For example...

Also, I find this a much better deal for that price: http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/7559-8045-Dell-Inspiron-15-7000_1856981.html

That said, for the sort of size game you say you play, spending that much isn't really needed....

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I ask because it's a shame to buy direct from HP when you can buy at discount elsewhere:

https://www.acs4it.co.uk/products/Computers/Laptops/HP/HP-Pavilion-Gaming-15-ak009na-15-6-Core-i7-67?prodid=2475256&info=2

For example...

Also, I find this a much better deal for that price: http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/7559-8045-Dell-Inspiron-15-7000_1856981.html

That said, for the sort of size game you say you play, spending that much isn't really needed....

Yes will be purchasing from the UK for now. Thanks for the advice.

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Hi Guys,

I think i'm going to buy one of these two:

http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/P5S40ESABU-HP-ProBook-450-G2_1884971.html

http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/80LM0012UK-Lenovo-B51-80_1857775.html

What is the main difference between the two? Would you have any preference? Or recommend another for under £400?

Graphics capability isn't an issue for me.

Main difference is RAM

They're integrated graphics cards (not stand alone) - means they run from the processor - which means for FM - low to med detail depending on what you're happy with.

However, the 2nd one has a more modern processor - means the graphics will be slightly better... marginally

It has a 8gb SSD for boot up and other things, probably find your computer booting up really quickly. Loading and saving games to this drive would be faster. But FM performance will be the same.

Upgrade RAM is easy.

I'd go with the 2nd one - and upgrade the RAM.

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Main difference is RAM

They're integrated graphics cards (not stand alone) - means they run from the processor - which means for FM - low to med detail depending on what you're happy with.

However, the 2nd one has a more modern processor - means the graphics will be slightly better... marginally

It has a 8gb SSD for boot up and other things, probably find your computer booting up really quickly. Loading and saving games to this drive would be faster. But FM performance will be the same.

Upgrade RAM is easy.

I'd go with the 2nd one - and upgrade the RAM.

No it wouldn't. You can't save anything to the 8GB cache. The FM saves goes into the regular spin disk "part" of the hybrid disk, so the speed of loading and saving FM saves would be just as fast as with a regular spin disk. Compared to a regular spin disk, Windows startup will be quicker, as you said, and also the startup of some of your most regularly (often) used programs/processes. It all depends on what the operating system decides to store in the cache. To speed up saving and loading of FM saves*, and also to avoid the slowdown that often happens a with a long running FM save after X amount of seasons, you need a proper SSD.

* In truth, due to the forced compressing/decompressing of FM saves, even a SSD won't help much with the loading and saving times of these.

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Haven't been keeping up to date with how FM runs best on the processor for a while (my i7 920 D0 at 3.8ghz still cleaves through FM processing just fine) but as part of the consideration for a new purchase whats typically better for FM the skylake processors less threads/cores or the Haswell-E's with more multi-threading and more cores? Most likely defining factor is whether or not I decide to throw in a second gpu or not but I know a couple of the other games I play most of the time would typically benefit more from a skylake than one of the juiced up Haswell's.

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No it wouldn't. You can't save anything to the 8GB cache.

Thanks for clarifying that - I was in a rush and mistyped what I wanted to say.

All hail the forums.

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Hi guys,

Looking for some kind assistance! My Samsung 300e5a laptop unfortunately died about 5 weeks ago. Always performed nice enough for me so took in for repair, long story short an estimated £80 repair spiralled to a £200 motherboard job which lasted 5 days over the 30 days warranty. Different repair guy says not worth repair again.

I think from memory I paid about £450 for machine and it was about 2.4ghz i5 processor about 4 years ago. Finding the prices don't seem to have changed much bizarrely and some even seem lower 2.2ghz etc?

I've looked about a bit and this https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/m/p/1841718 seems like a nice little machine?

My only concern; never particularly heard of Cube. Use laptop solely for FM running about 10 leagues like 5 star rating. Do watch 3d ME but always found the integrated card acceptable.

Can I find something similar for a little cheaper or do I even need this much?

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Hi guys,

Looking for some kind assistance! My Samsung 300e5a laptop unfortunately died about 5 weeks ago. Always performed nice enough for me so took in for repair, long story short an estimated £80 repair spiralled to a £200 motherboard job which lasted 5 days over the 30 days warranty. Different repair guy says not worth repair again.

I think from memory I paid about £450 for machine and it was about 2.4ghz i5 processor about 4 years ago. Finding the prices don't seem to have changed much bizarrely and some even seem lower 2.2ghz etc?

I've looked about a bit and this https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/m/p/1841718 seems like a nice little machine?

My only concern; never particularly heard of Cube. Use laptop solely for FM running about 10 leagues like 5 star rating. Do watch 3d ME but always found the integrated card acceptable.

Can I find something similar for a little cheaper or do I even need this much?

I wouldn't go solely on the ghz mate. A quad core i7 clocked at 2.2ghz would still be better than a dual core i5 clocked at 2.5ghz due to the number of cores etc. That laptop you linked looks good but a cheaper laptop would probably get the job done if you'd rather spend less. The helpful guys in this thread have found some really good value machines so I'd have a look back through this thread at some of their suggestions to see if there is anything that catches your eye

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Okay cheers mate I'll look through. I thought SaveOnLaptops did finance over 6 months but think I must have got mixed up with laptops direct so probably thinking HP is way forward. Probook is the best reasonable price option right?

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I just had a look at the probooks and they seem to come with 4gb of RAM. That should be enough but i'd look at getting 8gb or more to future proof it a bit.

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Thanks a lot I'll take a look around like I say a bit limited really as it's gone just before both kids birthday and booking a holiday so going to have to be over 6 months I think!

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http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/asus-core-i5-6200u-8gb-1tb-dvd-dl-nvidia-geforce-920m-15.6-fhd-led-windows-x555uj-xo070t/version.asp

It looks like Laptops Direct have the same model (or very similar) and I think both sites offer monthly payment but just be careful about what it works out overall. No laptop is cheap, especially on top of birthdays and holidays etc so I hope you find something that works out for you mate

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Been considering buying that Asus for a while, its £475.01 on Amazon. Sold by Amazon too.

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I have decided to get a new laptop. It will be used mainly for web browsing and playing FM. I generally load 8-10 leagues from 4 countries and approx 85k players. I intend to play most games 3D prozone. Any recommendations?

Also I'd like it to be as fast as possible for loading times, processing etc

Thanks

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http://m.johnlewis.com/mt/www.johnlewis.com/apple-macbook-pro-md101b-a-intel-core-i5-500gb-4gb-ram-13-3-/p231656819?un_jtt_v_pdp=yes&un_jtt_v_from_product=un_product_1#page_loaded

How well do you think this older, non-retina Macbook Pro will run FM16? It's currently on offer and i'm tempted to buy it and then upgrade it to an SSD and 16gb RAM. How well will the i5-3210m perform? I like to play with 20+ leagues at a good speed and watch replays in 3d

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Moving from desktop to laptop (finally) and have found this for about my budget in the sale. £200 off at £399.

FM is the only game I play, usually with just a couple of leagues loaded up and always with a 3D view. Otherwise, lots of web browsing is my main use.

ACER Aspire F5-571 15.6" Laptop - Black

Windows 10 (pre-installed)

Intel® Core™ i5-5200U Processor

Memory: 8 GB

Storage: 1 TB

Up to 5 hours battery life

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/acer-aspire-f5-571-15-6-laptop-black-10137492-pdt.html

Not played FM16 yet so holding off until I get a new machine before I do! Not sure it has a dedicated graphics card which may be a issue?

Thoughts please - hoping to get it by Wednesday when the sale ends!

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I am looking for a laptop for my brother that will play FM16, running 4 leagues on maximum database and high graphics on 3d.

His budget is £400 but can maybe push a little more if it makes a lot of difference.

Any help is much appreciated

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I think the 920m will struggle to run medium graphic settings, the 840m might be okay but would be worth looking back in this thread to see if there are any testimonials on that card as it will be close.

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Well it's for 500 quid...not sure there's a much better one for that price

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