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Smurf

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It's all relative - what do you want to achieve with your game.

That processor could be sluggish with lots of leagues loaded and a large database. But it would be ok on a small amount of leagues and small database.

The hard drive is very slow - so saving games will take longer and also loading them. The longer your career, the larger the database gets (more players, histories etc.) and therefore the larger the file size. A slow hard drive will be slower, the next one up is c.7000rpm and the next sped up is c.10000rpm - after that there are SSDs which are superfast.

Are you looking for 3d graphics - low - medium - or lots of detail?

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Graphics is not really an issue low - medium. But would like the processor to be quick, and a laptop that will be able to run FM and run smoothly for a few years. Originally was looking at a budget of £500 - £700, but willing to pay abit more if it means i'm getting my moneys worth and gonna last me years. You get what you pay for I suppose

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Afternoon people, how are the core m5y10 processors at handling FM? I'm considering a laptop, it's coupled with 8GB RAM.

Wouldn't be the best

Graphics is not really an issue low - medium. But would like the processor to be quick, and a laptop that will be able to run FM and run smoothly for a few years. Originally was looking at a budget of £500 - £700, but willing to pay abit more if it means i'm getting my moneys worth and gonna last me years. You get what you pay for I suppose

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http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/CB-CP5860-1010SX-Cube-Chameleon-CP-5860_1811172.html

http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/CB-CP7860-1010SN-Cube-Chameleon-CP-7860_1811148.html

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It's not bad - but £900 I think you can do better.

The specification below has been formatted so you can easily copy and paste this to our forums when discussing your specification. Once you've copied the specification, pleaseclick here to continue.

Chassis & Display

Cosmos Series: 17.3" Matte Full HD LED Widescreen (1920x1080)

Intel® Core™ i7 Quad Core Processor 6700HQ (2.6GHz, 3.5GHz Turbo)

16GB Kingston SODIMM DDR3 1600MHz (2 x 8GB)

NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 940M - 2.0GB DDR3 Video RAM - DirectX® 12

250GB Samsung 850 EVO SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (upto 540MB/sR | 520MB/sW)

8x SATA DVD±R/RW/Dual Layer (+ 24x CD-RW)

Thermal Paste

ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND (£9)

Price: £815.00 including VAT and delivery.

Unique URL to re-configure: http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/quotes/cosmosIV-17/qjmIabEwz6/

So it's a large screen like originally quoted.

This has the latest processor - so it's more modern giving it longevity. Now - the processor you posted the 4720HQ - this model is a faster processor in turbo speed (it's a 2.6ghz but under certain conditions it can go maximum of 3.6ghz), that being said the newer processor can get close to this at 3.5ghz - which is nothing to compare really - to me they're identical. The graphics processing on the older model processor is faster, by 50mhz - which for me is nothing.

However, the newer processor is built under new architecture which it allows to stay cool for longer periods of time - and this is where it will outperform the other processor - the longer the game goes on, especially journeyman saves - the more data it produces, the more data means that there's more processing - and more processing means your CPU (computer processor unit) will get hotter. The hotter it gets the more it throttles to a lower gear. The cooler it can remain means that it will perform faster under extreme processing challenges - which is perfect for FM.

The atctic thermal paste will help with the above too.

I chose the 940m Graphics card because it's more than enough for FM - you are welcome to change this the 950m - but there won't be much difference for FM.

There's 250gb EVO SSD - fantastic for loading and saving your Journey man saves - again up this to 500gb if you want - but if I were you buy an external flash drive. I got a 128gb USB 3.0 for very little - something like this http://www.mymemory.ie/USB-Flash-Drives/MyMemory/MyMemory-128GB-USB-3.0-Flash-Drive---Red

There no option to remove the CD RW - but you can upgrade this to blu ray - or just leave it if you don't use dvds/cds then it's probably not something you want to add extra costs on.

looking back at advice you've given smurf, which ones better? http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/CB-CP7860-1010SN-Cube-Chameleon-CP-7860_1811148.html You advised this one, but at £15 between the 2?

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Why not just post it here?

Sorry no reason. OK seen this now I'm not sure if its better or not then the one you posted it has come up on sale. I read someone post about ssd being better then hdd on the previous page and you have a few posts up.

With regards to the one you posted for me graphics are not that important. I would mostly be playing on 2d occasionally going 3d to to try and make my tactics better, or see if it gives me a better view of what the opponents are doing. Most important things would be flexibility in terms of game size and game speed.

Anyway the one I found

http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NX.MSQEK.026-Acer-Aspire-V3-572G-in-White_1846766.html

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which ones better between...

http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/CB-CP...0_1811148.html

Chassis & Display

Cosmos Series: 17.3" Matte Full HD LED Widescreen (1920x1080)

Intel® Core™ i7 Quad Core Processor 6700HQ (2.6GHz, 3.5GHz Turbo)

16GB Kingston SODIMM DDR3 1600MHz (2 x 8GB)

NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 940M - 2.0GB DDR3 Video RAM - DirectX® 12

250GB Samsung 850 EVO SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (upto 540MB/sR | 520MB/sW)

8x SATA DVD±R/RW/Dual Layer (+ 24x CD-RW)

Thermal Paste

ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND (£9)

Price: £815.00 including VAT and delivery.

Unique URL to re-configure: http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/quotes...17/qjmIabEwz6/

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macca72

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I'm about to buy a new laptop for work so wanted some advice.

I'll be carting it around a lot so want something light & thin, but it obviously has to be powerful enough to handle FM.

Budget isn't a huge issue, but I don't want to be spending thousands (nor will I be buying a mac).

Cheers.

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smplfc123

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Ok guys I really need some help. My current laptop is on its last legs, with the blue screen of death becoming an occurring problem.

I need to get a new one.

I haven't really got a budget, but I'm only going to use it for FM16.

I'm useless with system requirements, like graphics, ram etc, so what's best to get?

Please help guys!

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Hi Smurf, im looking at a new lappy so would appreciate your input. I have seen a few on the website but am now not so sure.

I have a budget of £500

Amount of a leagues/clubs. as many as possible as PC runs all leagues.

Are 3d graphics important? Maybe but having a quicker machine is more important

What other tasks do you do when playing FM? . internet

Is game speed essential? Yes

Fast load and save times? Not really

Screen size important? at least 15

Does it need to be portable (light) or do you want it as a desktop replacement (heavier and not ideal for carrying around but ok for situated in your house a various locations (bedroom, sitting room etc.) - Not really it more or less live in one place

I have seen this http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/80EC005CUK-Lenovo-Z50-75-in-Black_1736606.html

and this http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/CB-CZ5840-1010SP-Cube-Chameleon-CZ-5840_1811157.html

and am not sure if the Lenovo is good enough so am looking for in between.

Thanks in advance.

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Hi Smurf, im looking at a new lappy so would appreciate your input. I have seen a few on the website but am now not so sure.

I have a budget of £500

Amount of a leagues/clubs. as many as possible as PC runs all leagues.

Are 3d graphics important? Maybe but having a quicker machine is more important

What other tasks do you do when playing FM? . internet

Is game speed essential? Yes

Fast load and save times? Not really

Screen size important? at least 15

Does it need to be portable (light) or do you want it as a desktop replacement (heavier and not ideal for carrying around but ok for situated in your house a various locations (bedroom, sitting room etc.) - Not really it more or less live in one place

I have seen this http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/80EC005CUK-Lenovo-Z50-75-in-Black_1736606.html

and this http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/CB-CZ5840-1010SP-Cube-Chameleon-CZ-5840_1811157.html

and am not sure if the Lenovo is good enough so am looking for in between.

Thanks in advance.

The cube is better for this game.

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Seeking advice for two laptops as to which one is better for school and as well as running football manager 2016:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834264105&ignorebbr=1

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1ZD3EY5791

I'm really learning towards the HP laptop due to my loyalty towards HP products but if football manager runs unbearably slow I'd have to reconsider.

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smplfc123

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What do you mean by you don't have budget?

I've bought computers worth £20,000 - can you tell me a bit more about your budget?

Apologies smurf I didn't mean to be so vague.

I only really want to use the laptop for FM16 so I suppose I'd like to keep it to under £1000 if possible, but at the same time I'd like the game to work freely with no hassles with graphics etc.

Cheers for any help, it really is appreciated :thup:

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Apologies smurf I didn't mean to be so vague.

I only really want to use the laptop for FM16 so I suppose I'd like to keep it to under £1000 if possible, but at the same time I'd like the game to work freely with no hassles with graphics etc.

Cheers for any help, it really is appreciated :thup:

The most important thing for fm is the cpu, graphics are not really demanding so you should be fine with an integrated graphics chip.

You do not need to spend so much at all if your priorities are only running fm well and not other games.

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Apologies smurf I didn't mean to be so vague.

I only really want to use the laptop for FM16 so I suppose I'd like to keep it to under £1000 if possible, but at the same time I'd like the game to work freely with no hassles with graphics etc.

Cheers for any help, it really is appreciated :thup:

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Just max out the processor - and the graphics - you can even go to 16gb RAM if you want - no harm and definitely better for future proofing.

If you need any more pointers let me know.

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After a bit of advice.... I have an (really) old laptop and am just wondering if it would be suitable for FM16?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-Aspire-15-6inch-Windows-Premium/dp/B003S3R7R0

Most certainly not, it's an entry level old laptop using fairly old architecture.. I'd stay well clear and save up a few more pennies to make a new purchase worth it if <£200 is your budget.

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Thanks guys (Smurf in particular) for all of your input and advice to new laptop purchasing. I'm in the market for one too, with the complication being I'm based in Australia! Currently looking at machines such as;

HP Pavilion 15-ak006TX 15"

HP Spectre 360

Dell Y510995AU XPS

Couple of questions- whilst I appreciate it's not a case of 'one or the other' - where should the focus be- CPU/RAM/Hard Drive space or Graphics? I think I usually load approx. 4-6 different nations, large database and like as high graphics as possible.

Ideal laptop would be 14", i7, 8GBDDR, 250GB SSD and 1TB HDD, Geforce 920+...I can't seem to find the perfect combo though!

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Thanks guys (Smurf in particular) for all of your input and advice to new laptop purchasing. I'm in the market for one too, with the complication being I'm based in Australia! Currently looking at machines such as;

HP Pavilion 15-ak006TX 15"

HP Spectre 360

Dell Y510995AU XPS

Couple of questions- whilst I appreciate it's not a case of 'one or the other' - where should the focus be- CPU/RAM/Hard Drive space or Graphics? I think I usually load approx. 4-6 different nations, large database and like as high graphics as possible.

Ideal laptop would be 14", i7, 8GBDDR, 250GB SSD and 1TB HDD, Geforce 920+...I can't seem to find the perfect combo though!

Definitely the first one - linked again for easiness https://www.jbhifi.com.au/computers-tablets/laptops/hp/hp-pavilion-15-ak006tx-15-full-hd-laptop/798985/

I have an HP desktop on order and I'm wondering what people's opinion is on how many leagues it will run at a decent pace.

i7 6700 3.4ghz

8gb ram

128gb ssd

1tb sata HD 7200rpm

Nvidia GeForce 730 4gb

Cheers

It should have no problem - how many is anyone's guess... technically you can turn on all leagues and nations and load all players and staff on any computer.

The speed it runs at is a different story.

So - yes you can

What size game etc could I run with this? Im getting it for an online course I'm doing so thought it would also be ideal for FM on the go.

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/apple-macbook-pro-13-with-retina-display-2015-10118355-pdt.html

Hard to know - as above - you can run all leagues/nations and players/staff on any computer.

However, I wouldn't recommend having more than a mid-range of leagues/nations and medium database.

But it's up to you to find the balance. The longer you play the game the larger the database and the larger the amount of data to process.

So the more leauges and database size you have loaded, over time the longer it takes to process.

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Anyone has experience with Skylakes i5 cpus? Planning to build a rig with i5 6600 (Intel® HD Graphics 530) and no video card.Is it enough that Cpu graphic for FM16 3D pic? Or i have to buy video card for it.

On par with the 920m Nvidea - so won't be too bad. Consider medium setting and up it to a level your satisfied with.

So I'm seriously considering the Dell XPS13, with the i7 onboard. Graphics are integrated so not great, but should this run FM ok, happy to watch in 2d.

Cheers

No idea what you're talking about hte XPS13 comes in array of harware - can you please link.

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macca72

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No idea what you're talking about hte XPS13 comes in array of harware - can you please link.

Apologies, it would likely be these specs

XPS 13 - 9343

Intel® Core™ i7-5600U Processor (4M Cache, up to 3.20 GHz)

8GB Dual Channel DDR3L-RS 1600Mhz (On Board)

256 GB Solid State Hard Drive

EDIT: I'm guessing graphics are HD5500

Cheers

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The Dell XPS 13 is among the best of the current line-up of "ultrabooks", together with the Asus Zenbook UX305 CA and the Apple MacBook 12 inch'er. They're all rather expensive though, for what hardware you get. Go with the 1920x1080 IPS screen, and not the 4k screen; it's rather pointless on a 13 inch screen, you save some money, you gain much battery time, and you avoid some scaling problems. Just be aware that you can get the same performance or better for much less money than you'll have to pay for any of these mentioned. The processors in more "normal" laptops are more powerful than they are in the ultrabook versions. An i7 XXXXU is not the same as an i7 XXXXHQ, etc.

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It would struggle
Ya I've given up completely on finding a good deal in shops after looking at every option. I've done a search around and found a few sites that appear to have some decent choices and good prices in comparison to shops. I'm willing to pay upto €1,000 now as well if needed.

http://www.komplett.ie/group/ie_cat_gaminglaptops/default.aspx

http://www.dabs.ie/category/computing,laptops-and-tablets,gaming-laptops/15025

http://www.elara.ie/products/Laptops-Notebooks-Netbooks.aspx?available=checked&sort=pricehigh&ECatId10=10160300&Desc10=Notebook&ECatId11=748101&11P2ID=846&Desc11=Nvidia

Would like to know your opinion on what's on offer on those sites. Just want something that'll run FM smoothly and let me watch key highlights in 3D without much fuss. Thanks for the help so far!

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Thanks for the help. Ya the asus rog looks good alright. Do you think Amazon would be reliable enough to order a laptop on? Didn't even think of Amazon to be honest.

The largest online retailer in the world :)

Seriously though, check it's sold and despatched by amazon, you're much safer than if it's marketplace.

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